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[Pix]

To be honest I hope the rumors about Sakura Hiden are true. I want to be entertained by all the tears of the SS fans who had nothing better to do than bash NS in their daily lives. Does that make me a horrible person? Eh. I never said I was a the bigger person.

[WhyDoIWatch]

 

 

Can we give the guy a breather for a sec? It seems like every time I visit this thread its like 5 guys on one.

lol, its OK I really dont mind TBH...

[Shadow1275]

 

Oh but its just a friendly discussion, no harm done 

 

I actually agree with a few of his points

Lol Oh ok. I'm not pointing any fingers at anyone. Just making sure no ones getting ganged up on or anything. It's one of the reasons why I stopped debating on NF and NB. It's like you make one post and fifty ppl kitten their flame hands

[AHK]

I agree the Jinchuriki had sad lives. Hashirama's life would be sadder than Madara if his brother also died. Jiraya didn't have a sad life and while Tsunade's sucks all the sad stories have someone losing a loved one so its not really special. Obito ugh, that guy didn't have a sad backstory at all. Kakashi's life really sucked probably second or thrid in terms of backstory, he also stayed an awesome person which I greatly respect.
 
Bolded- Agreed but at least he wanted peace, he just felt it couldn't be achieved in Reality......

Hashirama did have brothers that died in the wars, they just weren't elaborated on because the focus of this story was about the damned Uchihas. Jiraiya watched his mentor, his students, and the mother of his godson die. He was rejected by tsunade, his best friend betrayed the village and killed his mentor. Jiraiya literally went to the grave thinking that he was a perpetual failure and at no point in his life did he succeed. That's pretty sad if you ask me. Obito was alone for most of his childhood and was constantly looked down upon, the kid was hated by his clan apparently because he was a failure that was good at nothing. He watched the girl he love get killed by his best friend, and then got manipulated all through his life, only to find out that Rin's death was orchestrated by the guy pulling the strings. He didn't have it easy either.

[Nostradamus]

You've been exiled from H&E goodbye.

Come on you know that's exactly what the plot of part 3 will be.

Burrito gets tired of being neglected by the scumbag, goes to find a new father figure aka the sauce. And the salad being the stalker that she is (a trait that she inherited from Hinata, don't ask me how) follows him and eventually they will meet the sauce.

Edited by Nostradamus, 03 April 2015 - 03:09 AM.

[WhyDoIWatch]

Hashirama did have brothers that died in the wars, they just weren't elaborated on because the focus of this story was about the damned Uchihas. Jiraiya watched his mentor, his students, and the mother of his godson die. He was rejected by tsunade, his best friend betrayed the village and killed his mentor. Jiraiya literally went to the grave thinking that he was a perpetual failure and at no point in his life did he succeed. That's pretty sad if you ask me. Obito was alone for most of his childhood and was constantly looked down upon, the kid was hated by his clan apparently because he was a failure that was good at nothing. He watched the girl he love get killed by his best friend, and then got manipulated all through his life, only to find out that Rin's death was orchestrated by the guy pulling the strings. He didn't have it easy either.

Agreed but Madara also had brothers die and at a much greater scale and he watched his best friends's brother kill his brother.

 

He thought he was a failure but remembered Naruto so he really didn't have it bad. 

 

Compared to Kakashi he did, it would make sense if Rin was the only one who loved and cared for him but that was not the case, Kakashi and Minato both loved Obito but he didn't care, he ruined Minato's life and his wife and son's life in the process and he literally told Kakashi "its because he let Rin die" when he knows full well Kakashi had no choice, it seems pretty fair that he was manipulated as he manipulated Nagato, Sasuke, and all the other Akatsuki expect Zetsu and Itachi.

[AHK]

Agreed but Madara also had brothers die and at a much greater scale and he watched his best friends's brother kill his brother.

 

He thought he was a failure but remembered Naruto so he really didn't have it bad. 

 

Compared to Kakashi he did, it would make sense if Rin was the only one who loved and cared for him but that was not the case, Kakashi and Minato both loved Obito but he didn't care, he ruined Minato's life and his wife and son's life in the process and he literally told Kakashi "its because he let Rin die" when he knows full well Kakashi had no choice, it seems pretty fair that he was manipulated as he manipulated Nagato, Sasuke, and all the other Akatsuki expect Zetsu and Itachi.

Hashirama's brother was killed by the Uchiha, and if I remember right, it was either Izuna or his father that killed him. 

 

He didn't know if he had succeeded with Naruto though, he put his faith in him. Jiraiya died thinking he was a failure at everything he ever did. 

 

Kakashi didn't ever care for Obito until the second Obito died. Anything Obito did nice to Kakashi, Kakashi threw back in Obito's face. Most of the time he was nothing but a bully to Obito. Minato seemed aloof as a teacher, he showed concern, but it never really felt like he cared all that much. Obito's later actions don't negate the sadness of his past. 

[RyohkiFan]

How do you guys remember?...I completely forgot after all that mess

[Nostradamus]

How do you guys remember?...I completely forgot after all that mess

Well when you follow a story for so many years, you pretty much remember almost everything about it. Especially if you've invested yourself in it.

[Pix]

Hashirama's brother was killed by the Uchiha, and if I remember right, it was either Izuna or his father that killed him. 

 

He didn't know if he had succeeded with Naruto though, he put his faith in him. Jiraiya died thinking he was a failure at everything he ever did. 

 

Kakashi didn't ever care for Obito until the second Obito died. Anything Obito did nice to Kakashi, Kakashi threw back in Obito's face. Most of the time he was nothing but a bully to Obito. Minato seemed aloof as a teacher, he showed concern, but it never really felt like he cared all that much. Obito's later actions don't negate the sadness of his past. 

Makes you wonder how Minato would have been like as a father. (Not in Kishimoto's head, but reality-wise).

[redrose3443]

Whenever I see pro-ending post, I'm like Lee with no eyebrows; https://41.media.tum...iu9go2_1280.jpg

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

It's almost April the third.  Can't wait for Kwon's doujin. 

[Pix]

But even back then she had the body of a goddess.

Speaking of which, have you seen the concept images of Sarada? It's a little bothering? I feel like she's way too curvy at 13, it honestly still reminds me of Karin. But I guess I'm not being very body positive right now...

 

This is why TG fandom is so peaceful...

Um.... Tsuykiyama v. Uta? TsyukiyamaxKaneki v. HidexKaneki? But yeah it's definitely not as wild as the AoT fandom or Fairy Tail fandom...

[trang95]

Speaking of which, have you seen the concept images of Sarada? It's a little bothering? I feel like she's way too curvy at 13, it honestly still reminds me of Karin. But I guess I'm not being very body positive right now...

 

Um.... Tsuykiyama v. Uta? TsyukiyamaxKaneki v. HidexKaneki? But yeah it's definitely not as wild as the AoT fandom or Fairy Tail fandom...

I think with "peaceful" you know what he means XD But I am aware that there is some shipping fights going on.

[Pix]

I think with "peaceful" you know what he means XD But I am aware that there is some shipping fights going on.

Lol yeah I'm nitpicking. 

[Namikaze Clan]

Speaking of which, have you seen the concept images of Sarada? It's a little bothering? I feel like she's way too curvy at 13, it honestly still reminds me of Karin. But I guess I'm not being very body positive right now...
 
Um.... Tsuykiyama v. Uta? TsyukiyamaxKaneki v. HidexKaneki? But yeah it's definitely not as wild as the AoT fandom or Fairy Tail fandom...

Do we even know if she's thirteen? For all we know she could be the same age as her parents were in part 2

[ramenanmitsu]

Actually, that's naruto in the nutshell.

Sasuke what are you doing?
Sasuke are you alright?
Sasuke when will you go home?
Sasuke....

Come to think of it, he was pretty much a satellite character. Now that you mention it, NH does make sense in that aspect. They kind of share the same value.

[Tiller]

Things aren't excatly perfection in my life at the moment, an things still don't seem to be so great here in general. So here is some comedy with some Naruto clips connected to it.

 

Edited by Tiller, 03 April 2015 - 05:36 AM.

[rocci]

Come to think of it, he was pretty much a satellite character. Now that you mention it, NH does make sense in that aspect. They kind of share the same value.

Yeah, he's just title character like doraemon or sauron lol.

@decius
Why promise of a life time is a worst decision?

@nar123 & whyidowatch
That's why I said he's not a villain. Sasuke is like a character who stand near the edge of dark side but never truly enter it.

[Decius23]

@decius
Why promise of a life time is a worst decision?
 

Because the Promise together with his own, erm, 'infatuation' with Sasuke put the issue of 'bringing Sasuke back' to the forefront. Beeing Hokage (which is Naruto's goal like killing Itachi is Sasuke's) basically means putting the needs of the village over his own but Naruto's (kitten) argument is "how can i become Hokage when i can't even save a friend". Which is both extremely narrowminded, dumb and hypocritical.