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#1441 Darth Krypt

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 03:30 AM

I really hope they do the same with One Piece anime. The pacing and animation is absolutely horrendous. Doesn't do justice to the story.

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 01:04 PM

I heard that FT will come to an end at the end of this month. sad.gif

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 03:06 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 2 2013, 09:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh, you heard too. Yeah, sadly that's true. Shame. I do wonder how Naruto stays alive. Then again, so as One Piece.


Naruto and One Piece stay alive for two completely different reasons, Naruto still has the universal appeal from children to Adults, and internationally, so it can get away with the crappy fillers each year which stops them from catching up to the manga too quickly, where One Piece only animates one chapter a week, so they can keep a steady distance between itself and the Manga so doesn't need to rely on Fillers, which was fine until recently because the One Piece Manga has so much more text and content than Naruto, Bleach and Fairy Taile but recently it feels the Manga doesn't have have much going on like it used to.

Plus Jump probably can't afford not to have the two on screen weekly, (Bleach used to be in that bracket too,) these two manga's generate a hell of allot of money for the company, they are the biggest two franchises in the industry at the moment, One Piece being the giant in Japan and Naruto worldwide.

It's a shame Fairy Tail is taking a sabatical, for year or two, can't say I blame them though, they must be having to go the route of One Piece and try to extend each chapter of the manga to one anime episode and there just enough content to do that, plus it's a battle royale at the moment and generally fight scenes are hard to animate so trying to stretch one fight scene after another cannot be easy. Besides they take a (hopefully) year break, and be back next Spring being 70 chapter behind the manga, which should give them some breathing space.

As for this weeks Manga Damn you Hiro for repeating the same formula once again!!! you'r as bad as Kishi is with his flashbacks.

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 03:10 PM

QUOTE (sakutonaru @ Mar 8 2013, 06:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I heard that FT will come to an end at the end of this month. sad.gif


You mean the anime? cause if it's the manga I WILL BE PISSED.


QUOTE (harry4e @ Mar 8 2013, 07:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Naruto and One Piece stay alive for two completely different reasons, Naruto still has the universal appeal from children to Adults, and internationally, so it can get away with the crappy fillers each year which stops them from catching up to the manga too quickly, where One Piece only animates one chapter a week, so they can keep a steady distance between itself and the Manga so doesn't need to rely on Fillers, which was fine until recently because the One Piece Manga has so much more text and content than Naruto, Bleach and Fairy Taile but recently it feels the Manga doesn't have have much going on like it used to.

Plus Jump probably can't afford not to have the two on screen weekly, (Bleach used to be in that bracket too,) these two manga's generate a hell of allot of money for the company, they are the biggest two franchises in the industry at the moment, One Piece being the giant in Japan and Naruto worldwide.

It's a shame Fairy Tail is taking a sabatical, for year or two, can't say I blame them though, they must be having to go the route of One Piece and try to extend each chapter of the manga to one anime episode and there just enough content to do that, plus it's a battle royale at the moment and generally fight scenes are hard to animate so trying to stretch one fight scene after another cannot be easy. Besides they take a (hopefully) year break, and be back next Spring being 70 chapter behind the manga, which should give them some breathing space.

As for this weeks Manga Damn you Hiro for repeating the same formula once again!!! you'r as bad as Kishi is with his flashbacks.


Well if YOU'RE admitting it, it must be true! tongue.gif But yeah all jokes aside I was actually getting into the story until around the middle of the the last arc with Caeser

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 05:07 PM

Read the chapter...wow. I'm a big Fairy Tail fan, but even I have to admit that was pretty bad.
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Posted 08 March 2013 - 05:59 PM

Wow, I don't usually comment something here unless the chapter is really good or really bad. Sadly, it's the latter. The last chapter, ok, yes, there were many head scratching moments but this one is...I don't know. Never in my life watching countless anime/manga ever make me feel highly disappointed. I know games does but this is new to me. That said when it comes to hype, FT is extremely terrible.

This manga has too much ego going on in FT and it's actually annoying me. Granted, FT is a guild, so you got to show off, but I don't know, I hate how they believe that if you're not in FT, you're just crap. Not to mention how many times they make a lot of guilds with problems and nothing that stands out different from others. Like all other guilds must be bad or they must be weaker than the one who is great at this feat and what not, almost making this arc as the finale. Anyway, I won't review this, because this is too much. I feel bad for anyone to see Sting overcome everyone, only to not do anything at all. What was the point? The buildup is just terrible.

I am going to continue watching/reading, of course. I don't quit. That said I still find it entertaining, but I can't put the same league as I'm with others. Sorry, if I ranted it bad. It just got me upset for once. It's as if 616 is actually a confirmation of NH and they work together all lovey dovey. But yes, don't have to agree with me, just wanting to get off my chest.

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 06:01 PM

Same!! I'm really disappointed with this chapter. I'm kinda tired of these power up out of nowhere and all the fights were pretty lame, Especially the last one when Sting just...gave up! facepalm.png

and again .. the arc must end up with dragons attacking and bla bla bla

I love FT, but it started to get too repetitive.

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 08:11 PM

I don't understand what's wrong with logic sense of the battle? What's wrong using that? Erza shouldn't win that easy. Sting shouldn't even fall down like that easy and wait to be defeated so he can receive a better ending. But no, that's not the case. That's like seeing Obito seeing the alliance in 609 and decided to give up. You don't just do that. I know I'm looking forward to the dragons arrival but stuff like that makes me worry a lot.

Another thing, look, I understand the premise of friendship in FT, I really do. In fact, while it's old, it can be handled really well. Look at FF6, it's about that and the story is fantastic, let alone the game itself. But here, it literally use friendship as a power-up, rather than use it to not giving up. Naruto was all about tricks and sleeves and when friendship comes to play, they do teamwork, not let the feel happen and all the sudden you win. That doesn't work and it's just cheesy. I know it's a guild and I may be shoving it hard, but I really dislike the ego of FT, makin them too perfect and if you're not them, you're last. Not even will of fire get shoved in our throats. Don't hear them saying it to all other villages and shove them that Konoha is the best. But...I freaking digress. Ok I'm done.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 05:29 AM

I think you guys are judging the chapter too quickly. If you guys take a step back and reread it and give some more thought into it, the chapter's message and intent becomes clear.

First, Sting. Sting's theme is all about becoming the strongest. Now logically, he should've defeated the FT members while they're weakened, right?? but I ask you this, can you really become the strongest if you were fighting a weakened opponent to begin with?? it'd be like fighting Muhammad Ali while his body is wrecked with cancer. Knowing full well he's in no shape to fight, you beat him up anyways. Then you go around saying you're the strongest. But is that really true?? when the fact of the matter is that you only beat him because he was weakened. Is that really what it means to be the strongest?? beating an opponent who can't fight anymore to begin with??

The answer is clear. NO. And like Sting said, how could he face Lector when he cheated to begin with anyways?? granted, the rules doesn't say that you can't take advantage of something like that, but still, Sting's honor is above that.

Second, even if Sting did fight them anyways, FT will just keep getting up until he's down. That's how they are. That's why, I think Sting felt fear and admiration at the same time. Which is why he surrendered.

Finally, what I'd like to ask you guys is this, do you guys actually want 10 chapters of drawn-out fighting?? I don't think so. What Mashima did here was a very good decision in the long run. If he had prolonged the games longer, the arc would start dragging on whereas we still have the bigger plot at hand: the Dragons. If you guys had to choose between the battles and the Dragons, I think the choice is clear.


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Posted 09 March 2013 - 03:41 PM

Mind if I ask, what's your thoughts on this chapter? Nothing wrong to be different from others, it's always about opinions.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 04:14 PM

Exactly what I said above.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 05:04 PM

Oh ok. Well, here's my take:

I understand what you meant, but the problem is that it just comes off somewhat indirect and hard for anyone to understand the premise, rather really comes off as an easy win. I like what you said, but the chapter really comes off bad timing. I don't want the arc to be drawn out, yes, but problem is that there was hype built for these guys. When you hype them up, you don't end them in a one shot. You take the whole chapter and end it. That I wouldn't mind. However, what we got is multiple win on the Fairy Tail. This reminds me of Bleach on how they can release full power and beat the bad guys all in one chapter. Anyway, let's go from beginning.

Gray and Juvia part is what I don't mind. It's a little eh, but I'll take it. Erza, honestly, is where the problem truly shows. She reminds of John Cena from wrestling, never loses. Or in anime/manga world, Echizen from Prince of Tennis. It's too much for me to comprehend it. I don't hate her, but when her fights begin, it's going to be bad. It's as if Erza is 24/7 Sasuke from Search for Itachi arc, you know, where she keeps killing your hyped/favorite characters. Unfortunately, she's there to stay. I think the problem starts becoming a major thing is from the last arc. Anyway, against she fought the person who got hyped and the worst part is she's injured badly. I was hoping Gaijeel to show up but she really did it on her own. That's hard to take it in. I'm sorry but that's just it.

I love the fact the crowd hyped the fact that if Sting beats all of them, his team will win by 1 point, letting you know that this battle will be crucial. Sadly, it's not. I get the message, but it's not implying here so well, rather it's implying that the fact they're standing makes him uncomfortable, like "Their fighting spirits are strong! I can't do it!" Literally, the feels beat him, kind of like that Avengers gif where Captain America get hit by the feels. It doesn't help that Sting got hyped for taking out the guild master, only to see him this. It's really out of place and don't know where should I even focus. When he lost, I don't know what to think because the hype died really quick. The ending, minus dragons focus, was too happy that even One Piece will laugh. It's just seems FT gets it too easy and I don't know, I don't like how they interpreted that their guild is the best and others will be considered bad or fillers. Not even Naruto does this. To me, Fairy Tail should have gotten another way to earn many respects, not by winning it. Kind of like how in Slam Dunk, one game they didn't win, but they earned a huge amount of respects.

Also, about the dragons, they feel like a bridge arc, not in arc. Not sure how to explain, but you know how in One Piece, you got an arc with its own villain, then before going to the next arc, they meet the hard difficult challenge, which you can say a secret boss. Actually, FT did do this in the last arc. That said, Hiro should have done differently. For everyone sake, I hope the dragons are worth the wait. I'm not one of those cry baby you see in NF (yeah, they're tearing this manga hard), but I got to admit that it was hard to not to dislike it. This wasn't the worst chapter of all time as many have said, but I can say that this chapter is not good.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 08:25 PM

QUOTE (Codus N @ Mar 8 2013, 11:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think you guys are judging the chapter too quickly. If you guys take a step back and reread it and give some more thought into it, the chapter's message and intent becomes clear.

First, Sting. Sting's theme is all about becoming the strongest. Now logically, he should've defeated the FT members while they're weakened, right?? but I ask you this, can you really become the strongest if you were fighting a weakened opponent to begin with?? it'd be like fighting Muhammad Ali while his body is wrecked with cancer. Knowing full well he's in no shape to fight, you beat him up anyways. Then you go around saying you're the strongest. But is that really true?? when the fact of the matter is that you only beat him because he was weakened. Is that really what it means to be the strongest?? beating an opponent who can't fight anymore to begin with??

The answer is clear. NO. And like Sting said, how could he face Lector when he cheated to begin with anyways?? granted, the rules doesn't say that you can't take advantage of something like that, but still, Sting's honor is above that.

Second, even if Sting did fight them anyways, FT will just keep getting up until he's down. That's how they are. That's why, I think Sting felt fear and admiration at the same time. Which is why he surrendered.

Finally, what I'd like to ask you guys is this, do you guys actually want 10 chapters of drawn-out fighting?? I don't think so. What Mashima did here was a very good decision in the long run. If he had prolonged the games longer, the arc would start dragging on whereas we still have the bigger plot at hand: the Dragons. If you guys had to choose between the battles and the Dragons, I think the choice is clear.

I'm with you, man. The Sting scene was definitely the most powerful moment in the chapter. Whether or not he would have won is debatable, but the point is he had the opportunity to win the whole Games for Sabertooth, but chose not to. He proved himself to be a character worthy of respect this way, by not winning in such a cheap fashion. I'm fairly certain Sting and Rogue are intended to become allies after this arc, so this scene is only paving the way for future development for him.

And I like your Muhammad Ali example. happy.gif

As for the rest of it, I guess I just assumed Gruvia and Erza would win, so I wasn't really excited or disappointed over those fights. Part of me kinda wishes Hiro would stretch these fights out a bit, especially considering a few of these characters (*looks at Laxus and Gajeel) haven't really had a significant fight since the Fantasia Arc. But I guess I prefer this over him going the DBZ route. This arc (or pre-arc, depending on your perspective) mostly seems to be a way to reaffirm FT's dominance, with every day of the tournament being an improvement over the last for FT. We went from Gray and Lucy being humiliated on the first day, to Natsu losing in the style and Elfman barely winning on the second day, to Erza, Laxus, and everyone else dominating on the remaining days.

In any case, now that the tournament's over, and the world knows how powerful FT is, I'm sure the real tension's about to begin.

On a side note, since we probably won't find out now, anyone have any ideas who the leader of the Fairy Tail team was? My initial guess was Erza, since she was shown in the center of the team at the beginning of the final day, but if Mavis knew Laxus was at the level of a Wizard Saint, I have a tough time imagining Erza being stronger than he is in base strength alone. I've heard a theory about it being Juvia too, if Mavis was trying to deceive the rival guilds.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 08:28 PM

Well, I admit, it's nice to see different opinions for once. I can't say I agree nor disagree. It just wasn't my liking, but I'm not the guy that will go "WORST CHAPTEF EVER! Zomg!" So, this place is a fresh of breathe air.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 05:09 AM

QUOTE (Super Boom @ Mar 10 2013, 03:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm with you, man. The Sting scene was definitely the most powerful moment in the chapter. Whether or not he would have won is debatable, but the point is he had the opportunity to win the whole Games for Sabertooth, but chose not to. He proved himself to be a character worthy of respect this way, by not winning in such a cheap fashion. I'm fairly certain Sting and Rogue are intended to become allies after this arc, so this scene is only paving the way for future development for him.

And I like your Muhammad Ali example. happy.gif

On a side note, since we probably won't find out now, anyone have any ideas who the leader of the Fairy Tail team was? My initial guess was Erza, since she was shown in the center of the team at the beginning of the final day, but if Mavis knew Laxus was at the level of a Wizard Saint, I have a tough time imagining Erza being stronger than he is in base strength alone. I've heard a theory about it being Juvia too, if Mavis was trying to deceive the rival guilds.


Thank you. To be honest, at first I was majorly disappointed with how the chapter turned out, but after rereading it a couple more times, I get to understand the meaning of the chapter and how it pertains to Sting's character as a whole.

Good point about the leader of FT. I almost forgot about that. If I had to say, I'd say Juvia is the one worth 5 points. If you consider Mavis' strategy planning. It'd definitely be within her character to trick the rivaling guilds on who the leader is.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 09:18 AM

Minerva wears striped panties. That's so... innocent of her. 111189.gif

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 01:17 PM

Just found a fanfic of what I think is an incredible portrayal of ST and Minerva's true nature. Hell, wouldn't be surprised if this is exactly what Mashima would be going for ST's development.

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Edited by Codus N, 11 March 2013 - 03:02 PM.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 02:42 PM

http://www.mangapand.../fairy-tail/323

Who the fricking heck is Rogue, well it definitely a twist, though we have to wonder how this will play out. Also wonder if he's related to Jellal somehow, It never was explained why he had that tatoo,

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 09:48 PM

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Rogue is the dude who just vowed to be a man who protects his friends. XD Shadow dragon guy. Wonder why he has part light hair now o.o


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Posted 16 March 2013 - 03:28 PM

QUOTE (Miss Soupy @ Mar 15 2013, 10:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Rogue is the dude who just vowed to be a man who protects his friends. XD Shadow dragon guy. Wonder why he has part light hair now o.o


He probaly did something like this with his buddy:


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