Just because YOU'RE satisfied with what's going on doesn't mean me or some others are content with what's going on. She's been barely featured in the war, and she's had little to no panel time in this war also. It's not about Hinata getting more panel time than her because a lot of characters have. It's about her not being prominent during this time while others are.
Naruto's gotten a ton of moments, and so has Sasuke. Two of the main characters. Even Kakashi has gotten quite a nice amount of prominence in this war, but Sakura? Close to nothing. She gets yanked out of the battle only to end up in a tent thinking about Sasuke, she takes out a Zetsu and helps examine him, ends up joining the battle only to get pushed to the side with little to no dialogue. Yeah, that's the heroine for you! I get annoyed when people tell me how I SHOULD feel about how she's being handled or her character. No, I'm not gonna change my stance on it because it's not just in the war where she's been pushed to the side and handled wrongly. It's been a consistent thing...
We know who the heroine is, but Kishi has a terrible ass time showing us who she is. A title isn't enough. I want actions, events and everything in between.
As for the bolded, don't be delusional. Hinata's done a fair share of stuff in this arc. There's DEFINITELY no denying that so don't downplay it...
Personally I don't think Hashirama's Sage Mode was Slug Sage Mode, my reason for believing this is that when Naruto and Jiraiya used Sage Mode they had Toad eyes, and while Kabuto had Snake eyes before Sage Mode he did have that thing where he blocked off his eyes that Sasuke said snakes can do, which may also be a sign that like Jiraiya he didn't have a perfect Sage Mode but my point is that Naruto, Jiraiya and Kabuto's eyes looked just like Toads and Snakes respectively, but if you look back at Hashirama's eye and compare it to Katsuyu's they look nothing alike.
Also I just want to say about Tsunade's rules preventing Medical-nins from fighting was broken when they called for the Medical-nins to assist in fighting Obito.
Well, like Baiken/Quinny said, (in 623 thread) the reason why it's possibly Slug SM is because it fits with the animal trinity theme. Also, there's something else. One of Katsuyu's abilities is to multiply and reform together as a whole, in other words, it's a form of
regeneration. And the seal on Hashirama's forehead is heavily related to
immortality with this in mind, wouldn't Katsuyu's ability be a form of immortality itself??
Phenix will never agree with our thoughts on Sakura because he has already revealed that he doesn't feel she needs a prominent role like that. (Fighting, being in the lead in general) He's satisfied with her just being saved for romance from what I remember.
Am I the only one that thinks this way of thinking is
downright sexist?? so.... basically phenix wants sakura to stay back in the kitchen leave all the work to the men?? well that's some fine writing of a heroine there.
... Honestly, I'd drop the manga in a heartbeat if he did some BS like that... And you make some very valid points. The thing is, IMO, he's added a fragment of NS every so often, but NH has been way too prominent as of late to be honest. I couldn't agree with you more in regards to your comment about her relation to Naruto and what she has/hasn't done for him that Hinata has did, but I believe just like Neji was the catalyst to make NH closer, I can't shake the feeling he's somehow gonna use Hinata as the catalyst for NS to become canon. I think it's gonna start with Sakura, and go from there, but that doesn't excuse all of the crap NS and mainly Sakura has taken. We can't even really discuss anything new with her given he's not given us much material. Just predictions and such, and that's quite ridiculous. Can't believe she's even considered a main character at this point.
Anyway, very nice post!
Wait, so what do you expect her to do with this battle between Naruto and Sasuke. She's likely not gonna be fighting given she said she's gonna leave it to Naruto to handle... I don't want her to become relevant when Sasuke comes back. I'd be so annoyed...
Just answered your own question. This isnt Narutos most needed time. Just as the Battle against Pein wasnt his most needed time.
The Battle against Sasuke will be his most needed time, and the time he will most need her.
Sasuke is the one who will represent the opposite mind set the need for vengance, and cycle of hatred.
it is then that he will need Sakura more then ever to help him break that cycle.
YOU. HAVE. GOT. TO. BE. KIDDING. ME So, you're telling me a moment where Naruto is on the verge of losing all hope in himself and his dreams is
not an important enough moment to warrant Sakura having a role at all??
I sometimes think people here have a twisted idea of what a heroine is. The heroine is supposed to be the hero's biggest cheerleader and be his bedrock and a shoulder to lean on when he feels he's lost his way.
For me personally, I still feel that NS is the endgame couple, but given the focus he has given on NH, and the lack of NS, I've come to care a little less about pairings because he's crippled the NS bond IMO. They've barely interacted in this war, and Sakura as a character hasn't done a whole lot either. It's actually saddening to be honest, and he gives Hinata the pleasure of giving Naruto a pep talk, being the first to receive chakra from him, and he spouts unbelievable lines like "You've always been there".
: It's a bunch of BS fanservice and what's more, you knock the focus Sakura does have on him right out the park right along with Naruto's. I'm sure this is only temporary, but again, he's basically crippled their bond IMO. It's not as awesome as it used to be... That's the frustrating part about it all.
You know, I'm still rereading Kekkaishi and I realize that it seems Kishi has no idea what he's doing with the plot in part 2.
In Kekkaishi, everything seems connected and you can see hints of things showing up full force in later events, and it makes COMPLETE sense. I still marvel at all the super amazing Sharingan uber powers given to Sasuke *and power in general* that had almost no build up before he received it. Even if it was foreshadowed before, it feels as though it's always just given eto him.
But back to my point, I'm sitting here reading Kekkaishi and while some things get pretty complicated sometimes, I feel like everything was planned all the way through. Yeah, there are some unpredictable moments, but they're always well planned and you don't feel like the author had to make a shocking moment just to get readers excited.
But I remember my experience reading Naruto *mostly part 2 in more recent bits* it DOESN'T feel like the events of now are attached to the events prior. In my mind, it's almost like Naruto is divided into sections that barely relate to each other. You have part 1 ,early part 2, and then more recent chapters. Part 1 and Part 2 are very intertwined and almost continues where it left off plot wise. The more recent chapters... (I'd have to say... around the time Sasuke killed Orochimaru and onwards, or maybe around the time Jiraiya went off and died)
I think this is more evidence that while Kishi does have the skeleton of the plot figured out, he's failing really really badly with the details. Details aren't always important, but it's getting ridiculous. The details can make it or break it. I have no doubt NS is in the skeleton, but Kishi is ruining the details that made me support NS in the first place. He needs to plan better.
It really does feel like he's pulling stuff out of nowhere now. I could never drop this manga, not unless it gets to Air Gear levels of ridiculousness, but... I wonder what happened to the Naruto I fell in love with.
ABSOLUTELY. Hell, even Kubo, for all his trolling, at least seems to have a better idea of how he wants to get to the finish line.
No, I don't think this is what she means. She means that people should be able to discuss whatever they feel without getting attacked for it for whatever ridiculous reason. Cheering up an individual has absolutely nothing to do with discussion.
By telling everyone to cheer up, you're assuming everyone is down in the first place. That is the problem here.
Just because I'm being critical does not mean I'm sad, mad, anxious, worried, or anything else 'negative' you can imagine. I quite like this pairing obviously, but I can still take a step back and look at it from all angles without some emotion being attached to it. The most I feel now a days is disappointment and that will never go away. But being disappointed does not mean I'm not hopeful or that I give up.
There are 100's of other threads dedicated to all that is Holy about NS. They aren't very hard to find and users don't have to come to the DEBATE thread to find reassurance in a pairing they like. In a debate, you are going up against other peoples' ideals and discussing your own. There are normally many sides in a debate and it's unfair to try and restrict other sides of a debate because they're 'negative'.
I'm not sure where people got the idea that the debate thread should be the 'happiest' thread on the forum.
^QFT.
Now that you bring that up do any of you think it's possible for Madara to take control of Kurama from within Naruto?
That could possibly make Naruto go out of control once again. Naruto has released the seal because he now trusts Kurama not to betray him, but if Madara starts manipulating Kurama with the sharingan that could be really bad for Naruto.
Maybe we would see the return of the evil kyuubi cloak, or maybe a new evil bijuu mode.
That is definitely an interesting idea. But I'm pretty damn sure Minato already accounted for that. He knows that the one who attacked his family was "Madara". And he was the one ripped the beast out of his wife. Surely he would've figured Madara would try something like that again.
Strider, you have just become one of my best buddies here on this forum.
I agree with everything you say. Looks like we really think alike, huh??
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