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#14441 Inferno180

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Posted 09 February 2014 - 02:13 PM

I do find it funny how many opposed to NS keep yelling its CPR when we tell them, its not the CPR we make a deal out of (though we like it to an extent) its the stuff Sakura is thinking towards naruto, his dream and vowing how wont let him die. But hey again like 615, guess the hand holding back then overlooked the other content talked about, and this time its even bigger when it comes to those views, many of these fans just see the CPR, not the following page of sakura showing her thoughts of concern to naruto. But we all know Sakura doesn't care for Naruto, she just abuses him and she is heartless to think of him in a time like this.

 

No thats just what one fan opposed to NS said in his video review. This one guy on youtube, Thephone999 is probabily the worst type of NH fan right now, he is the type of fan who is actually complaining and bashing and calling sakura a useless b-word because "now she cares for naruto only when he is dying," like none of the other moments she is being nice to naruto counted as caring, basically this is the type of fan who is going to be left ranting and yelling his guts out in the future because he has the pairing goggles on too tight and just plain hates her.

 

Another guy Thejorishae hes just claiming kishi is purposely doing this to screw with his fans, again saying its just him going out of his way to mess with fans and pairing fans, when its not true. See what I mean? One fan who still has the part 1 sakura mentality, and another who believes kishi goes out of his way to do these pairings to the point its messing with us. Its fans like these guys who are in for a real upset if they think this way. So many are calling for her death and saying it has to happen, while again, its nothing more than an excuse to get sakura out of the way rather than NH. So many want that sacrifice to happen, they dont care. The shocking thing is, now its fans like this don't even support NH as much as they are wanting sakura's head on a platter.

 

The comments on both their 663 review videos, well its obviously attracted the worst of the bunch. I say let them moan and scream over this chapter, because as I said, we have 2 potential moments coming up, with Sakura bound to talk to minato again and the recovery. Let the fans squirm and rage all they want, if kishi really made Hinata tripping to tick off those fans intentional, then the stuff he did with NS in 631 was only the start, its like hes getting ready to unleash a hyper combo, the first jab was 631, the second blow to the chest was hinata unable to make it too naruto, the 3rd strike to the lower leg was Sakura giving naruto CPR (when its the other stuff as important) and the following potential things are just more to that combo. Really the one thing I actually argee on with swayer is the reaction of NH fans to 631 and 662+3, 631 minato took a flying thundergod dump on their hopes, this time, while NS is fine, NH is getting its heart stabbed out on the ground.

 

While I don't think even he had to go that far, fans too stuck in the pairing stuff, its just not going to be kind to them in the future. Remember back in 631 when I asked if the NH fanbase had been fragemented? Looks like its becoming closer to a reality because now its not even NH as much to some, to some its become anything against NS or just wishing for Sakura to die, even if sakura were to die, it wouldnt grant NH a direct chance, nothing would have changed to make naruto suddenly love hinata. Sakura dying is unlikely but seeing this mess and we still have 2 to 3 days to go before the next chapter, just wow. I have never seen more demand for a fictional characters blood then now. Its like Sakura violated the scared shrine of naruto only hinata was supposed to have access too. :chuckle: 


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 02:22 PM

I remember somebody saying that last week's chapter (with the CPR) was shonen jump's valentines day chapter. Is that true? If it is then that is some crazy planning by Kishimoto.


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 02:25 PM

I remember somebody saying that last week's chapter (with the CPR) was shonen jump's valentines day chapter. Is that true? If it is then that is some crazy planning by Kishimoto.

While the delay is caused by his father's death, it is a crazy timing, more so than chapter 574.

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Posted 09 February 2014 - 02:43 PM

While the delay is caused by his father's death, it is a crazy timing, more so than chapter 574.

what was significant about 574?


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 02:45 PM

While many fans are saying they want Sakura dead, even if she must sacrifice herself, I just realized this, Sakura may not even be able to help if the such an event was needed for one to work with minato at the cost of their own life, logically, isnt sakura needed to keep him breathing and his heart pumping? I mean the technique minato does, it may not be instant either, it may take sometime, so logically speaking, should the technique minato uses to save naruto, if it took time to prepare, won't sakura need to nessessarily be there helping him resperate and pump blood until the transfer actually can begin, if Minato needs time to prepare, then Sakura obvously cannot just stop keeping him alive to help minato, if she suddenly stopped, that risks a lot of naruto's health, besides as a medic isnt she also supposed to check his vitals if anything when he recovers?

 

The more I think about this, the more reason I see sakura sacrificing herself for him as unlikely, there just come more reasons for story logic saying sakura will live.



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Posted 09 February 2014 - 02:52 PM

While many fans are saying they want Sakura dead, even if she must sacrifice herself, I just realized this, Sakura may not even be able to help if the such an event was needed for one to work with minato at the cost of their own life, logically, isnt sakura needed to keep him breathing and his heart pumping? I mean the technique minato does, it may not be instant either, it may take sometime, so logically speaking, should the technique minato uses to save naruto, if it took time to prepare, won't sakura need to nessessarily be there helping him resperate and pump blood until the transfer actually can begin, if Minato needs time to prepare, then Sakura obvously cannot just stop keeping him alive to help minato, if she suddenly stopped, that risks a lot of naruto's health, besides as a medic isnt she also supposed to check his vitals if anything when he recovers?

 

The more I think about this, the more reason I see sakura sacrificing herself for him as unlikely, there just come more reasons for story logic saying sakura will live.

Can you rephrase a different format? I didn't understand it. Perhaps a list of simple sentences instead of one giant one would be easier to understand.

Something like this :

Sakura has to do X.

X cannot happen unless Sakura is alive.


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 02:55 PM

what was significant about 574?

Well not much at all, but it did have Karin doing back and forth love/hate on Sasuke. But this one is way, way too coincidence.

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Posted 09 February 2014 - 03:08 PM

Can you rephrase a different format? I didn't understand it. Perhaps a list of simple sentences instead of one giant one would be easier to understand.

Something like this :

Sakura has to do X.

X cannot happen unless Sakura is alive.

 

I mean for the time comes for Minato to transfer dark kurama to naruto, weather he needs a sacrifice or not and also depending on if the technique can just be activated or needs time to occur, regardless of these, doesn't it make sense logically that sakura cannot help with minato's action, that she would need to stay and help naruto breathing this whole time until the transfer could actually occur.



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Posted 09 February 2014 - 03:13 PM

^I'm not even gonna lie, even though Sasuke and Hinata haven't talked AT ALL in the manga, I still feel like, in the right hands, the pairing has MASSIVE potential. 

I know it's because Hinata is the only girl on Narutoverse who doesnt care about Sasuke at all.


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 04:18 PM

Hiya!

Very long time no see, you all...

A bit off topic...I'm currently watching the first anime of the shippudden arc (the Gaara rescue arc - currently being re-aired in my country), meaning that I'm once more being subjected and awed by Sakura epicness...Really, she is just too...sublime at the beginning of the shippuden arc, isn't she? Her growth, her saving Kankuro and her fighting with Sasori.

And what with the current manga chapter of her saving Naruto - it's such a good parallel which I'm enjoying so much! The fiery way she says " I will not let you die..."

Ah, I never regret that she is my most favorite character of Naruto series. She always lives up to my expectation of her!

Viva Sakura-chan!



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Posted 09 February 2014 - 06:41 PM

No thats just what one fan opposed to NS said in his video review. This one guy on youtube, Thephone999 is probabily the worst type of NH fan right now, he is the type of fan who is actually complaining and bashing and calling sakura a useless b-word because "now she cares for naruto only when he is dying," like none of the other moments she is being nice to naruto counted as caring, basically this is the type of fan who is going to be left ranting and yelling his guts out in the future because he has the pairing goggles on too tight and just plain hates her.

That's because they are stuck in the past. They still see early part 1 Sakura that's why in their minds there is no development between Sakura and Naruto and no character development for Sakura either. They still see Sakura as Sasuke's fangirl, Naruto running around like an idiot and Sasuke being the coolest guy that has ever existed.

What I loved about the latest chapter is not the "kiss" between Naruto and Sakura because I acknowledged it's just CPR. What I love about this chapter are Sakura's thoughts. The fact that she is doing everything in her power to save Naruto in order so he can accomplish his dream. And that's absolutely beautiful. It shows just how much Sakura cares about Naruto and wants him to succeed.

Early part 1 Sakura doesn't exist anymore she is long gone.


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 06:53 PM

No thats just what one fan opposed to NS said in his video review. This one guy on youtube, Thephone999 is probabily the worst type of NH fan right now, he is the type of fan who is actually complaining and bashing and calling sakura a useless b-word because "now she cares for naruto only when he is dying," like none of the other moments she is being nice to naruto counted as caring, basically this is the type of fan who is going to be left ranting and yelling his guts out in the future because he has the pairing goggles on too tight and just plain hates her.

That is really weird, because Sakura has been constantly worrying about Naruto throughout the entire war.  But Inferno, why does this upset you? There is no reason to bother with irrational people.


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 07:10 PM

Remember the time when we worried since 614? Neither do I.

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Posted 09 February 2014 - 07:11 PM

Im gonna chime in because I keep seeing the ""its just cpr"" line being used. While the humility is refreshing its a bit overblown imo.

 

A  Manga is a visual medium those 18-20 pages have a limited space to tell a story and the imagery invoked is signifigant. Each panel must succinctly tell a story and each panel with dialogue must advance the plot successfully.

 

The panels where she is giving him CPR are literally some of the hugest--not size wise-- in terms of signifigance. In a manga fraught with symbolism like Naruto has been those panels are as signifigant as they come. She is literally breathing life into him while holding her heart in his hand. The authors intent couldn't be more clear in those panels then if Sakura had a big Neon sign over her head saying "This is mine, this is where my babies come from."

 

Kishimoto-sensei has always used symbolism and applied imagery to great effect in his story. With those 2 panels he has cemented a symbolic bond between the two that goes beyond any mere swapping of spit or hug ever could.


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 07:17 PM

That is really weird, because Sakura has been constantly worrying about Naruto throughout the entire war.  But Inferno, why does this upset you? There is no reason to bother with irrational people.

 

It doesn't upset me, its just its hard to believe if they are just acting like the way they are or if they seriously are this stuck on pairings and just want a character to die simply because the author just chooses to use the one they hate over their preferred one. As I said before, when the time comes, they may get a huge upset, I mean the situation right now, as it continues, we can get more NS moments if Sakura and Minato interact and talk over naruto to some degree and obviously there should be some positive NS moment when he recovers, I'm seriously looking forward to the point when naruto recovers and sakuras expressions towards the event of all her fears being erased at once and seeing her friend okay.



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Posted 09 February 2014 - 08:16 PM

Remember the time when we worried since 614? Neither do I.

Remember the time when we could post in any anime forum(without being Naruto related) that we are a Naruto fan without being bashed for it? Neither do I.

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Posted 09 February 2014 - 08:19 PM

Remember the time when we could post in any anime forum(without being Naruto related) that we are a Naruto fan without being bashed for it? Neither do I.

Remember the time when liking call of duty game is cool? Yeah. Same thing. Remember when I didn't care what others think? I do because it's still going on. Anyway, Internet is such a scary place. Always have one feeling superior or believe to be superior by posting in a over millions signin sites. In a way, people lose themselves by following along. But that's just me. Eh, I'm used to it.

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Posted 09 February 2014 - 08:57 PM

Quickly Off Topic Question From The CPR Disscussion But I Gotta Ask..........Does Anyone Get The Feeling Kakashi And Obito Will Send Madara Into The Kamui Dimension But Only To Break Out Of It Literally after a Few Minutes In The Next Coming Chapters?? I Keep Thinking This Might Happen Since 1: Madara Is Gonna Get His Left Rinnegan From Obito. 2: Sakura and Gaara Taking Naruto To Where Minato, Kakashi and Obito Are. And 3: It Would Give Them Time To Transfer The Kyubbi Chakra without Being Totally Obliterated By Super Madara!!!! O_o lol

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Posted 09 February 2014 - 09:03 PM

Quickly Off Topic Question From The CPR Disscussion But I Gotta Ask..........Does Anyone Get The Feeling Kakashi And Obito Will Send Madara Into The Kamui Dimension But Only To Break Out Of It Literally after a Few Minutes In The Next Coming Chapters?? I Keep Thinking This Might Happen Since 1: Madara Is Gonna Get His Left Rinnegan From Obito. 2: Sakura and Gaara Taking Naruto To Where Minato, Kakashi and Obito Are. And 3: It Would Give Them Time To Transfer The Kyubbi Chakra without Being Totally Obliterated By Super Madara!!!! O_o lol

Oh yeah, I forgot about that! Good idea, but how about Kakashi or Obito sending Minato/Naruto/Sakura to the other dimension. That works too. Wow, I really didn't think of that. Just hope Madara isn't fast enough to stop Naruto.

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Posted 09 February 2014 - 09:14 PM

Oh yeah, I forgot about that! Good idea, but how about Kakashi or Obito sending Minato/Naruto/Sakura to the other dimension. That works too. Wow, I really didn't think of that. Just hope Madara isn't fast enough to stop Naruto.






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