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[LuckyChi7]

Really because I heard the Chapter will be coming out on Tuesday as oppose to Wednesday. 

[tricksie]

Sorry if this has been asked before and I've missed it....

 

Suppose there's any chance that Naruto's personality / temperament / world view will change at all under the influence of Kurama's yin chakra as opposed to the yang he's had all his life?

 

Might he end up displaying more of a quiet, deeper, sensitive, philosophical side?   Will it change his outlook and strategic capability at all?

 

When considering that yang characteristics go a long way toward defining Naruto's personality -- excitable, direct, enthusiastic, outgoing -- it just makes me wonder.

 

What a thought. It would definitely be a great way to give Naruto a maturity boost and mix up the relationship elements a bit. Sakura and everyone else would have to adjust to this new, possibly more straightforward Naruto. He could embody the future world leader for a while, someone everyone could get behind and not just a kid with a ton of power. Then in the end maybe he reverts back to a harmonious mix between the two personalities, knowing when to be goofy and when to be serious. 

 

Nice way to bring focus back to Naruto for a while. Interesting thought!!

[HauntedCake]

Minato seemed unaffected by dark kurama so i dont think it will affect Naruto at all

[BakeNeko-Chan]

Sorry if this has been asked before and I've missed it....

 

Suppose there's any chance that Naruto's personality / temperament / world view will change at all under the influence of Kurama's yin chakra as opposed to the yang he's had all his life?

 

Might he end up displaying more of a quiet, deeper, sensitive, philosophical side?   Will it change his outlook and strategic capability at all?

 

When considering that yang characteristics go a long way toward defining Naruto's personality -- excitable, direct, enthusiastic, outgoing -- it just makes me wonder.

 

I love this idea. I don't know if it would happen, but if it did I think it could bring about some interesting character development of Naruto. It definitely makes you wonder just how much of an influence the Kyuubi's yang chakra may have had in shaping Naruto's personality and outlook. 

Edited by BakeNeko-Chan, 08 February 2014 - 05:29 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I wonder if "others" just realized that they're going to Minato, who is said to be the guy who dropped the bomb. I can imagine...

Others: .................No! No! No! No! No!

But seriously, this would have been the best time for you know, "have Minato rethink of Naruto's girlfriend." Maybe that's why Hinata ran. She knew that they were going there, so she wants to correct Minato on girlfriend fiasco.

Ok I'm done. :)

[HauntedCake]

I wonder if "others" just realized that they're going to Minato, who is said to be the guy who dropped the bomb. I can imagine...

Others: .................No! No! No! No! No!

But seriously, this would have been the best time for you know, "have Minato rethink of Naruto's girlfriend." Maybe that's why Hinata ran. She knew that they were going there, so she wants to correct Minato on girlfriend fiasco.

Ok I'm done. :)

 

[Dalton.T.R]

I wonder if "others" just realized that they're going to Minato, who is said to be the guy who dropped the bomb. I can imagine...

Others: .................No! No! No! No! No!

But seriously, this would have been the best time for you know, "have Minato rethink of Naruto's girlfriend." Maybe that's why Hinata ran. She knew that they were going there, so she wants to correct Minato on girlfriend fiasco.

Ok I'm done. :)

Hmm...never thought of it that way before...hmm...

 

On a serious note, I have to wonder if the other characters already know there's something going on with Naruto and Sakura. Like maybe they know more than we the readers do? I'm kind of curious on that regard.

 

But even if it was one of those situations, I doubt they'd be that concerned about some lovy dovey stuff going on between two other people. Especially after Madara just leveled himself up stronger than a god. 

 

That's another thing I'm curious about. Who in the HELL is going to face off against Madara? At this rate, if he gets another power up, he'll wipe out the entire alliance with the snap of his fingers! I hope Kishi has an actual plan for this and doesn't pull another WTF move.

[TouKen4Life3g]

 

Hmm...never thought of it that way before...hmm...
 
On a serious note, I have to wonder if the other characters already know there's something going on with Naruto and Sakura. Like maybe they know more than we the readers do? I'm kind of curious on that regard.
 
But even if it was one of those situations, I doubt they'd be that concerned about some lovy dovey stuff going on between two other people. Especially after Madara just leveled himself up stronger than a god. 
 
That's another thing I'm curious about. Who in the HELL is going to face off against Madara? At this rate, if he gets another power up, he'll wipe out the entire alliance with the snap of his fingers! I hope Kishi has an actual plan for this and doesn't pull another WTF move.

Well, Madara is almost complete, so pretty much the powerup spree ends once he get the other eye. That said that is a great question, isn't it. Maybe give him a rock to trip over. Lol. I'm kidding. Well, I don't want to go further detail but I am going to wait. I feel like I should really shut up on this one.

[KnS]

 

This needs to happen it just has to   

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The biggest problem with this for me -- besides the "s" on "thanks" and the missing apostrophe   -- is the "thank God" itself. That's a decidedly Western exclamation, and not one likely to be uttered by Kishimoto's characters.

 

Minato has the yin in him and as far as we know it hasnt changed his personality from what we have seen of him.

 

But Minato lived just a few minutes with Kurama's yin chakra before he died, so there was no time for him to be influenced.  As we see him now he is dead, and has been brought back the way he was when he died.  So there's no way to gauge whether or not the yin chakra would have influenced him if he had actually lived with it long enough.

 

As for strategic capability Kuruma is Kuruma so I am sure they share the same thoughts.

 

I wasn't talking about the strategic ideas Naruto gets from Kurama, but his own natural abilities.  Throughout the series, much has been made of Naruto's knack for devising clever strategy in fights.  That ability was present without any direct contact or cooperation with Kurama.

 

Yin Chakra of Dark Kurama is only supplying him chakra that is the same yang chakra in the other Kurama. Chakra is chakra.

 

I have to disagree.  Otherwise it wouldn't be purposely divided and labeled along yin/yang lines.  The two forces are opposite but at the same time complementary.  Chakra is always energy, but it is formed with different spiritual and physical elements.

 

What a thought. It would definitely be a great way to give Naruto a maturity boost and mix up the relationship elements a bit. Sakura and everyone else would have to adjust to this new, possibly more straightforward Naruto. He could embody the future world leader for a while, someone everyone could get behind and not just a kid with a ton of power. Then in the end maybe he reverts back to a harmonious mix between the two personalities, knowing when to be goofy and when to be serious. 

 

That's exactly what I was thinking -- that the blend of the yin on top of the yang that has formed Naruto's being since he was born would even him out a bit.  Give him more of a balanced temperament and approach.   Not that it would change him completely or anything, but give him more dimension.

 

I doubt Kishimoto would take something like this on this late in the game, but you never know.  

 

Minato seemed unaffected by dark kurama so i dont think it will affect Naruto at all

 

See above.  

 

 

I love this idea. I don't know if it would happen, but if it did I think it could bring about some interesting character development of Naruto. It definitely makes you wonder just how much of an influence the Kyuubi's yang chakra may have had in shaping Naruto's personality and outlook. 

 

I don't think the correlation between Naruto's obvious and exaggerated personality traits and the presence of a mass of pure yang chakra since birth is an accident.  I believe Kishimoto has made an effort to craft Naruto's temperament and abilities in accordance to that influence.

 

So if he's getting the yin half now, it stands to reason that its influence would be different -- albeit not as profound since Naruto is basically an adult now.

 

The cool thing, though, is that when he was being formed in Kushina's womb he was influenced by both yin and yang, so it's not as if his nature won't respond to the yin half. 

[六道仙人]

Really because I heard the Chapter will be coming out on Tuesday as oppose to Wednesday. 

 

nope... It isn't an early release so it's the usual business (wedsneday)

[LuckyChi7]

 
nope... It isn't an early release so it's the usual business (wedsneday)

That helps a lot, thanks for the correction.

[T XD]

I have to disagree.  Otherwise it wouldn't be purposely divided and labeled along yin/yang lines.  The two forces are opposite but at the same time complementary.  Chakra is always energy, but it is formed with different spiritual and physical elements.

It may affect Naruto's personality, but I'm thinking here in a more simple way about this kind in a story.

 

The two Kuramas could have just been divided Dark and Light just because there are two of them, and named that way cause the way they are represented and they're opposite of each other in their own way. But, not their chakra to affect a person which Dark Kurama won't affect Naruto as a person.

 

Very possible it will affect Naruto, but not on him as a person, rather on his power and abilities if it will have such an effect.

 

That's my thought. I could be wrong and Kishi may want to modify Naruto than staying on the way he is originally.

Edited by T XD, 08 February 2014 - 07:46 PM.

[LadyGT]

If there is going to be a new movie, I bet they are going to include a NS kiss.

[TouKen4Life3g]

If there is going to be a new movie, I bet they are going to include a NS kiss.

...

Kishi! Just make it canon before movie! That or do what those Inuyasha people did! Just have a kiss scene!

[Toasty Warrior]

I've been on Tumblr on my Naruto RP blog and the amount of nopes the other fandoms are giving is really entertaining. They're really in denial.

[KnS]

The two Kuramas could have just been divided Dark and Light just because there are two of them, and named that way cause the way they are represented and they're opposite of each other in their own way. But, not their chakra to affect a person which Dark Kurama won't affect Naruto as a person.

 

But that's the thing.  Kurama's chakra wasn't divided as Dark and Light, as if those words are just descriptors.  Otherwise he could have called them Black and White, or Salt and Pepper.  The chakra was divided by yin and yang. There would be no reason to specify the division as yin and yang if the nature of the energy or how it works didn't matter.  If it didn't matter, Kishimoto could have just had Minto put "half" the chakra in Naruto, and seal the other half within himself. 

 

Very possible it will affect Naruto, but not on him as a person, rather on his power and abilities if it will have such an effect.

 

The way I look at it, your argument is pretty much controverted by the fact that Naruto has a distinctly yang personality.  Unless it's totally a convenient coincidence of characterization, but I don't believe that.

 

As I said in my previous post, it's not very likely that Kishimoto will get into subtly shading Naruto's personality and maturity with a concept like this.  But in terms of discussion, I think it makes a lot more sense to say that Kishimoto wouldn't choose to do it because it's too difficult at this point in the story, rather than say yin/yang has no particular meaning and no influence.  We know that's not true -- in general concept or even within this story.

 

Really, if Naruto's personality, power, and capability are going to change in a significant way it's more likely to happen if/when Kurama's chakra is united and then sealed in Naruto.  I'd love to see that.

Edited by KnS, 08 February 2014 - 09:47 PM.

[Hiraishin]

The biggest problem with this for me -- besides the "s" on "thanks" and the missing apostrophe -- is the "thank God" itself. That's a decidedly Western exclamation, and not one likely to be uttered by Kishimoto's characters.

It's just a fanart...

There's an expression that characters say in relief ("yokatta") that is often translated into "Thank God," or "thank goodness."

[KnS]

It's just a fanart...

 

True enough, but that's really no excuse for poor grammar in something you intend to proliferate on the internet.    Only four words and two mistakes?  Oy.

 

There's an expression that characters say in relief ("yokatta") that is often translated into "Thank God," or "thank goodness."

 

Really?  I thought it was something like "I'm so glad."   If so, God really has nothing to do with it.   I mean, I can see it being translated into thank God (or thank goodness) by westerners or for the west, but that's what I'd expect if it was made by someone from a monotheistic society.

 

*shrug*  I'm no expert in Japanese, that's for sure, so I'll leave it to those who are.  ^_^

 

P.S.  Of course I'm making two assumptions:  (1) that the fan art was created by a westerner; and (2) that English is their first language.  Maybe neither are true.  

Edited by KnS, 08 February 2014 - 10:14 PM.

[sushi.]

I've been on Tumblr on my Naruto RP blog and the amount of nopes the other fandoms are giving is really entertaining. They're really in denial.

Yes, those "It's just CPR" arguments got me thinking, Kishi really didn't need to write this scene. From a character standpoint in their universe, it is necessary of course. From a writer standpoint, he did not need to write it like this. Kishimoto is not dumb, I'm sure he knew this would be trigger emotions of both NS lovers and haters. He really shoved it in too, with a zooming panel. First panel on the page when you turn around, so it's the first thing you see.

You could say Sakura is doing this because chakra techniques don't work, but I don't think Kishi would write them a scene like this with anyone but eachother. That's not to say Sakura hasn't done mouth to mouth before, but not in the story and that counts.

 

It's really not enough saying that it's not romantic, or it's just CPR. Because no it's not just that, some people don't seem to realize there's much more to this moment than the CPR..

[KnS]

It's really not enough saying that it's not romantic, or it's just CPR. Because no it's not just that, some people don't seem to realize there's much more to this moment than the CPR..

 

Exactly.  It's important not only because of the personal space they're in, and the Sakura's motivation to save Naruto.  

 

It's important because it's a bookend to Naruto pulling himself across the ground by his chin to keep at Gaara until Sakura was saved.  It's important because we know that if nothing else Naruto loves her and she KNOWS IT.

 

I agree, sushi.  Kishimoto didn't have to do this scene in this way.  Just like he didn't have to have Hinata stumble without ever reaching Naruto, and then entrust him to Neji because she expects him to die.

 

Not everything Kishimoto draws has meaning, but when it comes to the emotions of characters that he has been nurturing throughout the story, the scenes are carefully crafted.

 

Actually, I believe that Hinata's attitude of defeat -- her expectation that Naruto is dead -- serves toward her resolution overall.  When it becomes known that he lives, and that Sakura saved his life, when Naruto is elated upon winning Sakura's heart Hinata will be happy too, because it's better than him being dead -- which is what she thinks right now.