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#1421 Lilac

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Posted 30 October 2014 - 07:57 PM

I did suggest earlier that naruto's words might have been for sakura. However it's hard to believe the she does not react well part considering she was just fine finding out from sai so....basically it it ambiguous if it is true

 

The 'wait for me' thing from the trailer? Can't be, sadly. He uses 'omae', and he never uses that word with Sakura. Sakura is always Sakura-chan. So it would be "Wait for me, I have something I must tell Sakura-chan" instead.



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Posted 30 October 2014 - 07:59 PM

But taking into account the fact that he said it was okay if you didn't read the manga, I think they might have a point. If you don't have to read the manga how much relevancy would this movie have, because if it was relevant wouldn't it spoil the manga for many non reader viewers? :confused:
 
Edit: Actually this goes in accord to the fact that some people are anime-only watchers and this movie by not being that relevant (in canon) would not spoil the rest of the original story aka the manga ^^

It already has spoiled a lot, like Sasuke's rinnegan, Kakashi becoming Hokage, Kaguya, etc...

Kishi took the time to create the story (which takes place years after the manga) designs, supervised the movie, etc... From the start it said the movie goes beyond the original work, and that it covers the "blank period" not covered in the manga.

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#1423 abloublou

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Posted 30 October 2014 - 07:59 PM

Same for me. Why would he wait another 3 years to confess anyway? Makes no sense :no:

It makes no sense, but that's still a possibilty.

Plot induced stupidity.



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Posted 30 October 2014 - 07:59 PM

So Hinata gave him that scarf. :/ 


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Posted 30 October 2014 - 08:00 PM

Looking forward to the love triangle.

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Posted 30 October 2014 - 08:00 PM

Same for me. Why would he wait another 3 years to confess anyway? Makes no sense :no:

-_- Very true, the Naruto I know would confess right way, even if he was in a half-dead state :yes:


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Posted 30 October 2014 - 08:00 PM

It makes no sense, but that's still a possibilty.
Plot induced stupidity.

I'd rather Sakura just move on if that's the case.
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Posted 30 October 2014 - 08:01 PM

74 pages... :w00t:


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Posted 30 October 2014 - 08:03 PM

I wanna see Naruto and Sakura in their casual clothes >_< We don't even have the color scheme for Sakura's yet. 

My bet on green. I have always though Sakura would look best in green...

But it's going to be red/pink. :confused:



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Posted 30 October 2014 - 08:04 PM

Doesn't anyone feel like this movie is pushing NaruHina  :confused:

Sigh i have a bad feeling...


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Posted 30 October 2014 - 08:04 PM

 

If Kishi has said the plot is linked to the Manga, and he is responsible for the story then IT IS Canon, It's Kishi's story, if he makes a certain pairing happen, it becomes Cacon, no matter how little it makes sense. that's what it means to be canon. When RtN was being released it was made perfectly clear it was Alternate History story, a What If, but it was made clear it was not part of Canon.

 

This one as sh*tty as it sounds is canon, the Main Antagonist being linked to the Hyuuga, makes sense if he is a decendant of the other brother, who the Hyuuga clan also appear to be decendants of, The only way anyone can argue it isn't is if Kishi had no involvement in the story, or comes out and says it's not the ending he's written, but everything point towards it being his story.

 

It's a good thing the Manga is ending next week, because after the movie is released no matter what the final pairing is Kishi could have lost a good portion of his reader base. No matter how he ends it, he's going to get a sh*tstorm of angry fans, and deservedly so, NaruHina, NaruSaku, SasuSaku, and SasuKari, which ever pairing doesn't happen will have reason to fell grieved, Kishi has deliberately strung all of them along, NaruSaku the most that pairings been hinted at since chapter 3 of the manga.

 

I honestly would not want to be working in the SJ mail room on the day after the movie is released, it will be full of mail from disgruntled fans who will feel Kishimoto dissapointed them. It's a lose lose situation, made worst by not even giving the fans confirmation in the manga but asking them to pay £10 for a ticket to be dissapointed.

 

I don't really know why I am caring soo much about this argument if it's canon or not, because, personally, I don't care if it is canon or not. And, frankly, you guys shouldn't either. The stories in Naruto, all the stories in all the media, could mean anything to anyone. The value shouldn't stem if they all exist in the same continuity timeline, it should always matters the quality of the manga, what individual people personally feel about them. We bash a lot on fillers, but, lets be honest, there are some good ones. Yet we automatically just ignore them for the simply fact of them being canon. Maybe that is why this whole discussion is bugging me, because we are taking this as canon material and should be taken into the same consideration as the manga. When in reality it doesn't have to. If the story doesn't seem interesting, if the spoilers and advertisement doesn't interest you, then the movie should have no value to you then, at least at's it current state. 



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Posted 30 October 2014 - 08:04 PM

My bet on green. I have always though Sakura would look best in green...

But it's going to be red/pink. :confused:

Queen in green!Yep...


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Posted 30 October 2014 - 08:05 PM

It already has spoiled a lot, like Sasuke's rinnegan, Kakashi becoming Hokage, Kaguya, etc...

Kishi took the time to create the story (which takes place years after the manga) designs, supervised the movie, etc... From the start it said the movie goes beyond the original work, and that it covers the "blank period" not covered in the manga.

You do have a point :S but Kaguya was likely already mentioned in the anime or is closed to be at least, I don't know about the rinnegan though, but it's not a stretch because they already know how to obtain it (the senju+uchiha DNA). Now the hokage, well he was to be named hokage when Tsunade was out after the Pain arc so... :confused:  I don't know I might be trying to explain the unlikely XD


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Posted 30 October 2014 - 08:06 PM

Doesn't anyone feel like this movie is pushing NaruHina  :confused:

Sigh i have a bad feeling...

Yeah,I feel.It is showing NaruHina.But I have a good feeling that this movie will be the last trolling from Kishi.


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Posted 30 October 2014 - 08:08 PM

Crap :( I remember in one anime ending she was wearing this really cute yellow top... :argh:

 

Nahh... it's pushing Hinata. Where is Naruto? Where? NH is not just Hinata -_- Where are all the other characters? :/ I think there's going to be a full trailer this saturday, hopefully it'll show more people... or cause another sh**storm

You know the latter will happen XD


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Posted 30 October 2014 - 08:09 PM

sorry i deleted my post same here:

guys its that true?

 

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I've heard it is a false translation.

Sakuras name isn't mentioned there.


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Posted 30 October 2014 - 08:09 PM

Doesn't anyone feel like this movie is pushing NaruHina  :confused:

Sigh i have a bad feeling...

look, you weren't here for road to ninja in 2012, but I was. trust me, this is probably troll advertising just like it was for road to ninja, they advertised ss and nh for road to ninja too for several months, then ns ending up happening.


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Posted 30 October 2014 - 08:10 PM

If Kishi has said the plot is linked to the Manga, and he is responsible for the story then IT IS Canon, It's Kishi's story, if he makes a certain pairing happen, it becomes Cacon, no matter how little it makes sense. that's what it means to be canon. When RtN was being released it was made perfectly clear it was Alternate History story, a What If, but it was made clear it was not part of Canon.

 

This one as shitty as it sounds is canon, 

 

Again, you're conflating "connected to canon" and "is canon."

 

As I said in my other post, it could simply be that for people who watch the anime and don't read the manga, Kishimoto was explaining that the plot of the movie relies on events in the manga -- that they are connected -- as a kind of disclaimer:

Kishimoto-sensei says the manga and movie are connected, and because that is the case the manga should be read to completion first. However, even if one hasn’t finished the manga it’s alright! 

 

So even if people haven't read the manga, it's fine.  Why?  Likely because it's not 100% related.



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Posted 30 October 2014 - 08:10 PM

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Wtf? LOL. the desperation is so strong. god help us all

 

... guys wait. 

Didn't we got a translation from all this stuff before? 

How does this stuff coming from all of sudden?!


"We live in a world that is so quick to convince us to ignore our feelings. Feeling stressed? Get a massage. Feeling angry? Go to the bar with your friends and blow off steam. Feeling lonely? Meet someone in cyberspace and have a conversation on the computer. Depressed? Take a pill. Anxiety? Take 2 pills. Feeling happy? Well, by George, don’t talk about that because no one likes a bragger. Same with being sad, no one likes a Debbie Downer. But, heaven FORBID, that you actually TALK about your feelings and process them in a healthy way."
 
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Posted 30 October 2014 - 08:10 PM

look, you weren't hear for road to ninja in 2012, but I was. trust me, this is probably troll advertising just like it was for road to ninja, they advertised ss and nh for road to ninja too for several months, then ns ending up happening.

Please hear the words of wisdom from this man :goodjob:


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“You should enjoy the little detours. To the fullest. Because that’s where you’ll find the things more important than what you want.” — Ging, HxH, ep. 148





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