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#1421 Capn Banjo

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 07:10 PM

QUOTE (lupina @ Dec 30 2012, 12:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I also thought of that. Or he expects Obito to betray him.


The betrayal between the two seems inevitable. I just can't help but wonder who it will be that initiates it. Since Madara seems to be anticipating Obito's betrayal, then certainly he has another plan, right? Madara's calm face on this page seems to indicate that Obito's own intentions will only briefly slow his plans with the Juubi.



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Posted 30 December 2012 - 07:11 PM

Hm, but as Madara was wondering, I wonder why Obito was so intent on hearing Naruto's answer. Does he truly want Naruto to join his side? Or is he looking for confirmation that his way is right by putting Naruto through the same thing and hoping to get the same conclusion?

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 07:16 PM

QUOTE (Capn Banjo @ Dec 30 2012, 02:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The betrayal between the two seems inevitable. I just can't help but wonder who it will be that initiates it. Since Madara seems to be anticipating Obito's betrayal, then certainly he has another plan, right? Madara's calm face on this page seems to indicate that Obito's own intentions will only briefly slow his plans with the Juubi.


Lol I just noticed something. This is Madara's face. :I
QUOTE (kirabook @ Dec 30 2012, 02:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hm, but as Madara was wondering, I wonder why Obito was so intent on hearing Naruto's answer. Does he truly want Naruto to join his side? Or is he looking for confirmation that his way is right by putting Naruto through the same thing and hoping to get the same conclusion?

It's Nagato all over again....D:

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 07:26 PM

QUOTE (kirabook @ Dec 30 2012, 01:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hm, but as Madara was wondering, I wonder why Obito was so intent on hearing Naruto's answer. Does he truly want Naruto to join his side? Or is he looking for confirmation that his way is right by putting Naruto through the same thing and hoping to get the same conclusion?


Obito waiting for Naruto's response certainly has me curious as well. Obito seems like he could be trying to prove something to Naruto, he's focused on him a lot.

Referring back to chapter 614, Obito says he wants to "teach them despair... carefully." He then has the Juubi use the Mokuton - Sashiki no Justu, striking down alliance soldiers in every direction, but then he attacks specifically in Naruto's direction. It could be that Obito was anticipating that one of Naruto's friends would jump in front of him (which Neji did), hoping to target Naruto through his friend.

Then during Hinata's speech to Naruto, the Juubi starts charging up its bomb, but as pointed out by more alliance soldiers, it aimed a specific direction. I could be reading into it too much, but maybe, Obito is trying to find the right target to affect Naruto?

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 07:31 PM

Sakura could unintentionally get singled out soon, but I'm not sure since Naruto breaks down from Neji's death even. But I'm sure Obito isn't satisfied, and apparenetly, Neji's death didn't affect him TOO deeply since he snapped out of it so quickly. Maybe he'll attack Kakashi next (but I have this feeling he's saving Kakashi for other things) and since Sakura is in the vicinity....

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 07:37 PM

QUOTE (kirabook @ Dec 30 2012, 02:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sakura could unintentionally get singled out soon, but I'm not sure since Naruto breaks down from Neji's death even. But I'm sure Obito isn't satisfied, and apparenetly, Neji's death didn't affect him TOO deeply since he snapped out of it so quickly. Maybe he'll attack Kakashi next (but I have this feeling he's saving Kakashi for other things) and since Sakura is in the vicinity....


Sakura was also one of the few people Naruto interacted with when the alliance showed up...so maybe?

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 07:42 PM

QUOTE (kirabook @ Dec 30 2012, 01:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sakura could unintentionally get singled out soon, but I'm not sure since Naruto breaks down from Neji's death even. But I'm sure Obito isn't satisfied, and apparenetly, Neji's death didn't affect him TOO deeply since he snapped out of it so quickly. Maybe he'll attack Kakashi next (but I have this feeling he's saving Kakashi for other things) and since Sakura is in the vicinity....


That could work as well. Attack Kakashi and Sakura tries to save him, but I hope she doesn't throw her body in the way again. I hope she actually tries pounding some kitten for him before getting fatally wounded. biggrin.gif

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 07:45 PM

QUOTE (kirabook @ Dec 30 2012, 01:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sakura could unintentionally get singled out soon, but I'm not sure since Naruto breaks down from Neji's death even. But I'm sure Obito isn't satisfied, and apparenetly, Neji's death didn't affect him TOO deeply since he snapped out of it so quickly. Maybe he'll attack Kakashi next (but I have this feeling he's saving Kakashi for other things) and since Sakura is in the vicinity....

I don't think he is either. If anything, I can seem him getting into a rage over Naruto not reacting how Obito expected him to. That's why I feel it's still possible for Sakura to be attacked, whether it's directed at her specifically or not.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 07:48 PM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Dec 30 2012, 02:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't think he is either. If anything, I can seem him getting into a rage over Naruto not reacting how Obito expected him to. That's why I feel it's still possible for Sakura to be attacked, whether it's directed at her specifically or not.

My best guess is that when Obito's plan fails, Kakashi would say something that will anger him further, which causes him to attack him with one last strike. Then, Sakura gets in the way and well, gets stabbed pretty bad. I'm not saying this will happen but that's one way to have her involve.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 07:53 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Dec 30 2012, 01:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My best guess is that when Obito's plan fails, Kakashi would say something that will anger him further, which causes him to attack him with one last strike. Then, Sakura gets in the way and well, gets stabbed pretty bad. I'm not saying this will happen but that's one way to have her involve.

If he targets Kakashi. I'm surprised Obito has been so calm when it comes to Kakashi. He doesn't seem to care whether Kakashi lives or dies. He's indifferent to him. His focus seems to be more on Naruto.... I wonder if he would attack Kakashi to get to Naruto? Then what you suggested happens, where Sakura pushes him to the side.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 07:56 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Dec 30 2012, 02:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My best guess is that when Obito's plan fails, Kakashi would say something that will anger him further, which causes him to attack him with one last strike. Then, Sakura gets in the way and well, gets stabbed pretty bad. I'm not saying this will happen but that's one way to have her involve.


Is it weird that I can't see it happening like that? huh.gif or, at least, I'd rather it didn't happen like that...I don't know why. It seems kind of "out there", especially since Kakashi's been sorta quiet, and Obito seems very indifferent towards him.

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#1432 TouKen4Life3g

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 07:58 PM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Dec 30 2012, 02:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If he targets Kakashi. I'm surprised Obito has been so calm when it comes to Kakashi. He doesn't seem to care whether Kakashi lives or dies. He's indifferent to him. His focus seems to be more on Naruto.... I wonder if he would attack Kakashi to get to Naruto? Then what you suggested happens, where Sakura pushes him to the side.

Obito has been cocky for a while, but it seems slowly his cool is disappearing. The reason is because he felt certain that his dream will become reality, but then the alliance shows up, which can be bad for him. Then, Juubi transformed and starts winning again, which is like "Ok. This is more like it." Now, since next chapter will be about the counterattack from the alliance, it could look bad again for Obito. I imagine that once his plan fails, he will be enraged. Kakashi might say something that backups Naruto's words, he will get mad and just go for the kill, which probably please Madara and maybe recall from Zetsu about him killing all those nin in the flashback. It's possible, but again, we will see what's next.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 07:58 PM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Dec 30 2012, 08:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If he targets Kakashi. I'm surprised Obito has been so calm when it comes to Kakashi. He doesn't seem to care whether Kakashi lives or dies. He's indifferent to him. His focus seems to be more on Naruto.... I wonder if he would attack Kakashi to get to Naruto? Then what you suggested happens, where Sakura pushes him to the side.


Because Obito don't care anymore about this world and him since he seen him killing the love of his life...

Imo, hatred is a strong weapon but indifference is even more.... in fact it's the worst feeling that could exist, even in real life.

I suspect that when Kakashi will mention her name (Rin) for making any excuse, Obito will lose his reason getting angry.

Edited by 六道仙人, 30 December 2012 - 08:01 PM.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 08:00 PM

QUOTE (Qia @ Dec 30 2012, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is it weird that I can't see it happening like that? huh.gif or, at least, I'd rather it didn't happen like that...I don't know why. It seems kind of "out there", especially since Kakashi's been sorta quiet, and Obito seems very indifferent towards him.

Sakura's and Kakashi's turn are the last. I don't know what for sure Kishi has for Sakura and maybe it won't be a huge role for her, but for Kakashi, I think he'll deal with Obito after some time, at least when Obito's end is near.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 08:02 PM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Dec 30 2012, 04:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Because Obito don't care anymore about this world and him since he seen him killing the love of his life...

Imo, hatred is a strong weapon but indifference is even more.... in fact it's the worst feeling that could exist, even in real life.

Naruto always change their villains after sharing some of their pain, killing neji does not lead to understanding Obito but opens for it.
Sakura dying is another story, Naruto will experience Obito's pain, and then Obito will ask for the last time if he wants to join with him.

Because killing Sakura is not just about "the love of his life" but too because he made a promise that he would protect her life.
Like Obito, obito loved her and also vowed to protect her life.

He will change obito based on his definitive answer and then sacrifices himself and ressurrect everyone minus shikaku and inoichi and tsunade.

Obito wants to attack Naruto's heart and bring him down to his knees, in other words striking him where it hurts the most.

*OFc the Nh fans would bash Sakura but i dont care about their opinions just go kitten themselves.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 30 December 2012 - 08:05 PM.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 08:06 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Dec 30 2012, 09:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Naruto always change their villains after sharing some of their pain, killing neji does not lead to understanding Obito but opens for it.
Sakura dying is another story, Naruto will experience Obito's pain, and then Obito will ask for the last time if he wants to join with him.

Because killing Sakura is not just about "the love of his life" but too because he made a promise that he would protect her life.
Like Obito, obito loved her and also vowed to protect her life.

He will change obito based on his definitive answer and then sacrifices himself and ressurrect everyone minus shikaku and inoichi and tsunade.

Obito wants to attack Naruto's heart and bring him down to his knees.


I wouldn't know, Naruto and Obito himself states he isn't like Nagato. Obito is different from Nagato. He could be Tnjed by Naruto but I can't certainly say it.

Edited by 六道仙人, 30 December 2012 - 08:06 PM.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 08:09 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Dec 30 2012, 03:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Naruto always change their villains after sharing some of their pain, killing neji does not lead to understanding Obito but opens for it.
Sakura dying is another story, Naruto will experience Obito's pain, and then Obito will ask for the last time if he wants to join with him.

Because killing Sakura is not just about "the love of his life" but too because he made a promise that he would protect her life.
Like Obito, obito loved her and also vowed to protect her life.

He will change obito based on his definitive answer and then sacrifices himself and ressurrect everyone minus shikaku and inoichi and tsunade.

Obito wants to attack Naruto's heart and bring him down to his knees, in other words striking him where it hurts the most.

*OFc the Nh fans would bash Sakura but i dont care about their opinions just go kitten themselves.

Well, good that you don't take two crap from NH fans bashing on Sakura.

The reason why I think Obito can go enraged is because he will be stuck in a world he no longer cares forever once his plan fails. That's where I can see him becoming extremely upset. You know, it's pretty consistent to see him as Tobi back then. In fact, remember when Tobi talked about wanting the moon eye plan to start already. He looked very hungry for that dream to happen already.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 08:11 PM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Dec 30 2012, 05:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wouldn't know, Naruto and Obito himself states he isn't like Nagato. Obito is different from Nagato. He could be Tnjed by Naruto but I can't certainly say it.

I know but since this fight started is obvious that Naruto wants to show that he's wrong, Naruto changed all his villain with a talk about love, friendship and etc...
Everyone.
Nagato was about hatred, Naruto understood what's hatred and show to Nagato he was wrong.

Obito is different, he knows what's hatred and his pain is based on losing the love of his life and the promise he could not keep that was to protect rin, he talks that the world cannot change and only peace can be achieved putting everyone on a genjutsu world.

Naruto tells him that he's wrong, and Obito didnt kill the alliance because he wants to know what's Naruto's answer, he even acknowledge that Naruto was similar to him.
I do believe that Naruto will change Obito and Obito will sacrifice himself after realizing he was wrong all the time, but neji's death is not sufficient for Obito to acknowledge that his pain is the same as Naruto.

I believe in this possibility because does not seems forced or fanfic.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 08:13 PM

Is Obito still trying to kill more in order to get his point across, right?

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 08:14 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Dec 30 2012, 05:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is Obito still trying to kill more in order to get his point across, right?

I think he will due to his reaction(facial expression).

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 30 December 2012 - 08:16 PM.

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