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#14341 Dalton.T.R

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Posted 07 February 2014 - 10:52 PM

Regardless of what the other fans say, CPR is still kissing. A kiss is when the lips of a man or woman come into contact with another person's lips. CPR is also called 'The kiss of life' so the argument of CPR not being a kiss is invalid. Sakura kissed Naruto...there's no getting around it. No matter how much the other fanbases cry, kick, and scream about it, they can't change that fact.

 

What's really getting on my nerves is that the other fanbases will come up with anything...ANYTHING to downgrade Sakura. I'm kind of looking forward to the arguments they'll be coming up with when NS is officially confirmed (if it isn't already) Better yet, lets see Hinata move on to Kiba or something like that :hehehe:

 

Oh, I'm sorry NaruHina fans, but I don't think Hinata loves Naruto anymore :wink:



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Posted 07 February 2014 - 11:33 PM

Outside the occasional gang up and posts that make you say "wtf"... I really don't have any problem with the NaruHina fanbase. A lot of them feel like hopeless causes, but I can't help that, if that's how they feel, can't change'em. So basically, this battle between ships is pointless, because neither side is gonna surrender, unless the person in question is a neutral party who sits on top of the fence.  

 

Did you really need to go this far Inferno? Comparing a fictional story's ship to important historical events? We shouldn't get that upset over this, because the NaruHina fans have a right to their opinions, even if they make you question their intelligence....

 

Im not being cruel, not trying to anyways but the vocal minority is always drowned out in the rabble of the majority. Besides, as I said before, there are just some aspects of the entire fandom I personally do not like, but when it comes to the bad NH fandom, there are just some things I want to say I just cannot and will not for the sake of civility. In all honestly, there are times and I mean times when we get some NS event and its being overun with illogical fallices and insults to fans like us who are just keeping a rational view on many things including positive aspects for NH, I mean I myself keep some reasonable doubt for NS just in case Kishi does some random though unlikely event, I mean I don't dismiss Hinata entirely, likewise many of us were not yelling canon despite at the CPR stuff, rather we are doing the right thing and looking at the thoughts sakura put on towards naruto, the deal is when some fans just go to far, its almost tempted to make a huge counter statement that would literally drag their sense of worth into the ground simply for being wrong after so long.


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Posted 07 February 2014 - 11:35 PM

^Can't say I disagree Dalton, but it doesn't matter one bit unless they kiss in a romantic context. It is a kiss, but only by definition. At best, Kishi might have manipulated the events to let Sakura kiss him :fu:, but I don't think it counts for the pairing. I say the same as in 615, the war doesn't allow romance on the battlefield. I don't think Sakura secretly likes this, or that Naruto took pleasure in holding Hinata's hand.

 

I don't think Hinata loves Naruto either tbh. I thought she did, but her reaction in 662, which was a stark contrast to Sakura and Karin's made me doubt. Then I began to question everything before that. I took her confession literally, but it's a bit unrealistic because they have like 10 interactions all together and none of them were them voluntarily hanging out with one another.


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Posted 07 February 2014 - 11:38 PM

Can you honestly say you didn't think you would get NS in two chapters in a row and then some? It feels like we're used to one at a time moment, but now, we're getting a volume worth.

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Posted 07 February 2014 - 11:50 PM

 

Im not being cruel, not trying to anyways but the vocal minority is always drowned out in the rabble of the majority. Besides, as I said before, there are just some aspects of the entire fandom I personally do not like, but when it comes to the bad NH fandom, there are just some things I want to say I just cannot and will not for the sake of civility. In all honestly, there are times and I mean times when we get some NS event and its being overun with illogical fallices and insults to fans like us who are just keeping a rational view on many things including positive aspects for NH, I mean I myself keep some reasonable doubt for NS just in case Kishi does some random though unlikely event, I mean I don't dismiss Hinata entirely, likewise many of us were not yelling canon despite at the CPR stuff, rather we are doing the right thing and looking at the thoughts sakura put on towards naruto, the deal is when some fans just go to far, its almost tempted to make a huge counter statement that would literally drag their sense of worth into the ground simply for being wrong after so long.

Oh, not saying you were wrong or anything XD Just saying you didn't have to go so far with a comparison... I've got a metaphor that best describes the NaruHina/SasuSaku fans anyway, "The blind leading the blind". Who wants to fight blind people anyway ;D when it's best to know when to chose your battles-wisely. The time may seem perfect right now, but I think will be given a much better opportunity in the future.

 

On that note though, sometimes it's hard to let stupidity go unchecked ~_~ When you read stuff like, NaruSaku isn't a pairing where feelings are mutual, you basically have to wonder where the hell people come up with this stuff


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Posted 07 February 2014 - 11:54 PM

Can you honestly say you didn't think you would get NS in two chapters in a row and then some? It feels like we're used to one at a time moment, but now, we're getting a volume worth.

I think we'll only get more.

 

Besides, I don't think Kishimoto is playing anymore. No more teasing or subtle hints. 631 was so blunt Kishi already told us the answer. By only observing the situation here, these moments are not over. And I'm saying this without shipping googles. Because there's a difference between ship and pairing..one is fanmade you know. But I read the story too, sometimes it seems shippers have a reputation of lacking reading comprehension, and that being 'neutral' is always best. :ermm:

But what happens when Naruto wakes up? Or if he actually dies, only to be revived later(which Sakura won't know)? And don't be surprised if the ns shipperMinato blurts something out.


Edited by sushi., 08 February 2014 - 12:26 AM.

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Posted 07 February 2014 - 11:58 PM

There is something I just remembered, my birthday is on February 19th, and this year its on a Wednesday.....

 

we have a current situation with a lot of NS potential....

 

I hope to get a NS moment on my birthday.



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Posted 08 February 2014 - 12:01 AM

There is something I just remembered, my birthday is on February 19th, and this year its on a Wednesday.....
 
we have a current situation with a lot of NS potential....
 
I hope to get a NS moment on my birthday.

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Posted 08 February 2014 - 12:15 AM

Lots of February Birthday's... *sigh* too bad mine is next Friday  


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Posted 08 February 2014 - 12:24 AM

Lots of February Birthday's... *sigh* too bad mine is next Friday  

Why is that bad?

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Posted 08 February 2014 - 12:26 AM

^Can't say I disagree Dalton, but it doesn't matter one bit unless they kiss in a romantic context. It is a kiss, but only by definition. At best, Kishi might have manipulated the events to let Sakura kiss him :fu:, but I don't think it counts for the pairing. I say the same as in 615, the war doesn't allow romance on the battlefield. I don't think Sakura secretly likes this, or that Naruto took pleasure in holding Hinata's hand.

 

I don't think Hinata loves Naruto either tbh. I thought she did, but her reaction in 662, which was a stark contrast to Sakura and Karin's made me doubt. Then I began to question everything before that. I took her confession literally, but it's a bit unrealistic because they have like 10 interactions all together and none of them were them voluntarily hanging out with one another.

I wasn't meaning for it to sound like I was saying the CPR is an actual moment, well...it is a moment, but it's not enough to confirm NS...at least I don't think so. If someone else wants to say NS is confirmed after this chapter, more power to them.

 

However, I DO think we could be right on the verge of seeing NS either being confirmed, or denied. Like I said in the past. I think this is going to turn into one of those "You don't know what you have 'till it's gone" moments for Sakura. If there was ever a time for her to see that Naruto is really the one she loves, then this would be the time for it to happen.

 

I don't know what to expect in these next few chapters. There's no doubt or argument Sakura's going to perform CPR again...she has to! To me, this is also one of those times reality has to come into fiction a bit. I'm pretty sure if any girl was this close to losing their best friend, they'd be crying, cussing, swearing, and all of the above while their hart was being ripped in half. In a realistic situation, Sakura would be all over Naruto when he wakes up. She should be crying her eyes out and hugging him so tight he'll die from lack of oxygen.

 

However, I'm still waiting for her reaction IF (key word here) IF she hears about Sasuke. Will she give much of a damn after nearly losing Naruto? Or will she go into panic mode(though she never was in panic mode) again? These are the questions I wonder about.



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Posted 08 February 2014 - 12:28 AM

Why is that bad?

7+7=14 Connecting the dots after that shouldn't be too hard  :sweatdrop:


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Posted 08 February 2014 - 12:31 AM

7+7=14 Connecting the dots after that shouldn't be too hard  :sweatdrop:

:sick: I remember 14. Not a fun year for me.



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Posted 08 February 2014 - 12:32 AM

7+7=14 Connecting the dots after that shouldn't be too hard  :sweatdrop:

Lol I still don't get it. It's Valentine's day. Guess what? We're sharing birthdays. ^_^

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Posted 08 February 2014 - 12:36 AM

I don't think Sakura will find out about Sasuke, because the plot makes it impossible right now. But I still want to see it because I honestly have no frickin' idea how she would react.. :shifty:


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Posted 08 February 2014 - 12:41 AM

I don't think Sakura will find out about Sasuke, because the plot makes it impossible right now. But I still want to see it because I honestly have no frickin' idea how she would react.. :shifty:

I won't be surprise about not knowing Sasuke since only Team Taka are the only one they know. The Alliance are just dealing Zetsu and don't know the whole detail about Naruto. So yeah, Sakura to Naruto, the Alliance getting beat down, and Taka to Sasuke. Simple as that.

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Posted 08 February 2014 - 12:49 AM

I think we'll only get more.

 

Besides, I don't think Kishimoto is playing anymore. No more teasing or subtle hints. 631 was so blunt Kishi already told us the answer. By only observing the situation here, these moments are not over. And I'm saying this without shipping googles. Because there's a difference between ship and pairing..one is fanmade you know. But I read the story too.

What happens when Naruto wakes up? Or if he actually dies, only to be revived later(which Sakura won't know)? And don't be surprised if the ns shipperMinato blurts something out.

 

I agree with how obvious Kishimoto is being now. The only other ship he gave a fighting chance in this war was NaruHina in 615 but he killed it in 616, 631 and 662. He's been treating Hinata really bad for some reason too. The only thing SasuSaku got was the " Sasuke-Kun" "Sakura, huh" scene.  :hm: Chapter 663 was like the final nail in the coffin. All my friends in the SasuSaku fandom admit Kishimoto is going for NaruSaku now, there's no denying it at this point. I hear the Japanese NS fans already declared victory, haha. :lol: 

 

I hope Minato says something as well and we get a real kiss by the end of the war.  :fan: 


 
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Posted 08 February 2014 - 12:51 AM

:sick: I remember 14. Not a fun year for me.

Try living with it your whole life... At least till I'm not single :<

 

Lol I still don't get it. It's Valentine's day. Guess what? We're sharing birthdays. ^_^

Well I'll put it way then, outside of the forums and my parents/family members, my birthday hasn't taken much priority since my freshmen year in high school. 


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Posted 08 February 2014 - 01:09 AM

Try living with it your whole life... At least till I'm not single :<
 
Well I'll put it way then, outside of the forums and my parents/family members, my birthday hasn't taken much priority since my freshmen year in high school. 

I see.

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Posted 08 February 2014 - 02:06 AM

The one moment I'm waiting on is Sakura's reaction to narutos recovery. But hey to some fans who oppose ns, sakura could end up crying in joy and hug naruto or at least hug him even saying she was worried she almost lost him, and they would still call it 'sibling like love'

At this point anything can come and they would still hate her even when she reacts positively to her.

Right now to some fans, it's like sakura violated hinatas property basically, even as CPR which was a nessessity here, people are just upset for one reason, simply because it's sakura. Sakura is seen as an unholy heathen who violated the sacred naruto who was reserved for the goddess hinata.

Seriously there has been some ugly crap said about this event and some people are not thrilled at all, one fan said hinata made the most sense to go, she could have used the gentle palm and vibrated his heart and gave CPR without needing to open him up. Another person said sakura looked disgusted having to do this to naruto (when her eyes were looking at his chest to see if her actions were working). Really this is the kinda stuff that leaves lost casues out there, if they didn't like 631 and all the fallout that caused, they won't like this or anything ns related in the future. The biggest rage has yet to come but events for ns coming like this, it's not going to sit well with everyone.

 

All Sakura needs to say is that she loves Naruto, and that will be the end of it.  Nothing can refute that!

 

 

Deep kisu. :smug:

 

I must remember that as one of my favorite sayings. :D

 

To tell you guys and girls the truth the Sakura "haters" will probably stop hating her if something like this happens: If Sakura sacrifices her life to save Naruto and if possible have Hinata next to her and she tells Hinata to take care of Naruto give him the love that he deserves, the love that only Hinata can give him. If something like this happens most likely the hate will stop. Then the "haters" will say "Wow Sakura finally you actually did something truly useful in your life."

 

But still, it's a empty victory for them, because Sakura had to die for Hinata to end up with Naruto.  I would never accept a pairing that had to have that happen.

 

I'm afraid to release mine. I hold on because I was hoping for two things: clear translation and fans dying down.

 

If this is anything like 631, from what I heard, the fans won't die down for a while.

 

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My birthday is next week! Please don't focus on Sasuke. Save it for another week!

 

Oh, but we must know who that "mysterious" figure is.






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