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#14281 Luna

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 09:19 PM

I know, I actually don't get the big deal about them. Especially when it comes to pairings, is this our fragile side? Sawyer said also in the review that he wants the bare-footed in the end to be either Kushina or Jiraiya :down:
But we don't mention that even though it is more worthy of critism than his Sakura death wish.


He makes so much crazy predictions to fit his Fanfiction needs/world.


 


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 09:43 PM

I'm laughing a little because so many people here want to remind others that "it's only CPR" and yet it seems that no one is disagreeing. So to who exactly are we directing that at?

 

Have a little more trust, I think everybody agrees that CPR is not romantic. What's touching is Sakura's dedication to Naruto.

 

In my defense, I didn't read what everyone else had posted. I just read the chapter, came here, and posted my thoughts on the chapter.

 

Surprised that Narutopedia actually has the right thing on Sakura this time. Shocked me.

That's a first.

 

Why do NS hate Sawyer so much? I actually like his reviews, apart to what he says about Sakura or pairings, he makes some good jokes. Though my fav reviewer is KoL, he hates both Hinata and Sakura, but I don't mind, he actually makes a lot of good points:) And about Sakura dying, people forget the fact if Sakura died Naruto wouldn't want to be Hokage anymore.. why, let's go back to part where he said "How can I be hokage If I can't even save one friend....-", basically Sakura's or Sasuke's death would be like a failure to his road to be hokage. IMO

I actually don't have much of anything against him. I haven't watched him in a long time, but he's okay. He makes his reviews fun to watch, and he puts a lot of work into them.



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Posted 06 February 2014 - 09:50 PM

He makes so much crazy predictions to fit his Fanfiction needs/world.

Must not be that good of a fanfic writer then...


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 10:04 PM

I feel like I'm the only neutral guy in here. Sure I am NS fans but I won't put it on a pedestal when I discuss with all others. I guess pairing war is ugly.

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 10:12 PM

Just finished reading chapter 663. I have a few things I'd like to say about it.

 

Probably like the majority of the rest of you, I was pretty...surprised to say the least, when I saw what Sakura did. However, I have seen what the opposing fanbases have been saying, and I can't help but agree with some of the things they're saying. What Sakura did was CPR. It's a kiss, true enough, but is it a kiss that really says "I love you"? No, it isn't. I want to celebrate this chapter as much as I can, but I don't think it's time to say NS is confirmed or cannon yet. Here's my main reason:

 

It's a complete possibility that Sakura has performed CPR on several other people before Naruto who could have been in even worse situations and closer to death than he is now. So, in my own opinion, I don't know how well the CPR thing is really in our favor. 

 

But what's peeking my curiosity is what Sakura was thinking by saying 'your dream is right in front of your eyes." Was she referring to herself and giving into her feelings for Naruto? Or was she actually talking about his dream of being Hokage? I'm leaning towards the hokage dream considering the flashbacks she was having. But it's still possible she was talking about herself.

 

Also, Sakura kissed Naruto twice. Could there be a hidden message that maybe she liked it and wanted more? It's probably unlikely, but I'm just coming up with ideas right now. I just hope Kishi keeps focusing on Naruto and Sasuke and doesn't go back to the minor characters such as Hinata, Kiba, etc.

 

Can't wait for next chapter. I'm very curious about what's going to happen when Naruto wakes up and Gaara tells him what Sakura did  :hehehe:

 

No doubt Sakura's going to have a Tsundere moment of embarrassment and send Naruto into orbit XD. 

In BOLD, that what I was saying. His Hokage Dream isnt front of him, theirs a war and winning it doesnt make you Hokage, not to mention Tsunade is still alive.

 

What was meant is that Sakura is finally right in front of him, rdy to throw herself at him/for him. His dream is Hokage and Sakura, and Sakura is right in front of him.

 

Also it's not what the CPR means, its more so why Kishi had it there and why it was Sakura and Naruto,  there could have been a number of different ways this went down, but Kishi chose this one.



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Posted 06 February 2014 - 10:20 PM

i feel sakura is being straightforward in this chapter, she's definitely talking about his hokage dream, her flashbacks were him saying out loud his 'silly daydreams' of surpassing the other hokages, and i don't think she's so self-centered to talk about herself.


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 10:29 PM

The thing is that Naruto is this close to achieve his dreams, yet he's going to die now. Sakura won't let that happen. First, it's about him failing alive (referring back to part 1) and now, it's about him failing being dead. Pretty much he can't die. I'm telling you, this drama is only going to get crazier.

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 11:06 PM

In BOLD, that what I was saying. His Hokage Dream isnt front of him, theirs a war and winning it doesnt make you Hokage, not to mention Tsunade is still alive.

 

What was meant is that Sakura is finally right in front of him, rdy to throw herself at him/for him. His dream is Hokage and Sakura, and Sakura is right in front of him.

 

Also it's not what the CPR means, its more so why Kishi had it there and why it was Sakura and Naruto,  there could have been a number of different ways this went down, but Kishi chose this one.

Hmm...truer words were never spoken...or...well...typed, I should say. I do think it is a possibility Sakura COULD have been referring to herself. If there was a time Sakura ever needed to get over those lingering feelings of Sasuke (for whatever reason she still has them) this would be the time. However, I don't want to jinx it and go ahead and say NS is officially confirmed lol



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Posted 06 February 2014 - 11:28 PM

Why do NS hate Sawyer so much? I actually like his reviews, apart to what he says about Sakura or pairings, he makes some good jokes. Though my fav reviewer is KoL, he hates both Hinata and Sakura, but I don't mind, he actually makes a lot of good points:) And about Sakura dying, people forget the fact if Sakura died Naruto wouldn't want to be Hokage anymore.. why, let's go back to part where he said "How can I be hokage If I can't even save one friend....-", basically Sakura's or Sasuke's death would be like a failure to his road to be hokage. IMO

 

I also enjoy KoL reviews, even when I disagree with his opinions. That's because even if he hates a character he recognizes when they do something impressive. Despite his hate for Sakura he did mention that what she did in the recent chapter is pretty good.

 

He also goes out of his way to remind people that this are only his opinions and that he has a right to express them. He understands that others have the right to a different view.

 

In his review of this chapter he even mentioned how Sakura having Naruto's heart in her hand is pretty symbolic. And I was laughing the entire time he was ranting about Karin (and I like Karin). The only thing I would disagree with is that he said that since Sakura is having this big moment with Naruto that Hinata will probably have a huge moment later in the future. I was just there thinking "Hinata's big moment was 615" did you already forget?

 

Are there really people out there thinking that something bigger than 615 will happen for Hinata? It really baffles me as to why. Especially considering that Kishi made Hinata kiss dirt and pray to Neji as a reason to keep her way from Naruto. I mean, what do people think will happen? That she'll have a chapter to herself contemplating in the dirt that she needs to help Naruto?

 

Hinata entrusted Neji to protect Naruto (as weird as that is) and yet people think she's gonna go "Just kidding, I'll go to Naruto now". Come on.


Edited by redragon88, 06 February 2014 - 11:31 PM.


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 11:37 PM

I'm kind of curios what more to expect from Hinata to speak the truth. Will she and Sakura have some kind of...moment alone to talk about Naruto, or will she just give up (if she hasn't already)?



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Posted 06 February 2014 - 11:56 PM

I'm kind of curios what more to expect from Hinata to speak the truth. Will she and Sakura have some kind of...moment alone to talk about Naruto, or will she just give up (if she hasn't already)?

She won't have a moment alone with her. At most, she would say in a quick way something positive about them to Sakura.

 

When NS becomes canon, if she was shown at some point afterwards in the manga regarding them, she won't be sad. I think she'll be happy for both. She has to be cause if she won't, it will reflect badly on her.

 

She's also maybe already gave up on him and just want to be able to help and support Naruto by what she's trying to do. It's not at all strange for someone to do what she's doing if he/she wants the safety and be able to help a cherished person. It also applies in ficiton.


Edited by T XD, 06 February 2014 - 11:58 PM.


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Posted 07 February 2014 - 12:51 AM

And people have convinced themselves that Sakura is still going to heal Sasuke after finishing with Naruto... I'm wondering if they just look at the manga images only


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Posted 07 February 2014 - 01:31 AM

I really wonder now if antis will use that Karin's power being compared to Kushina's as a"parallel" and use it to debunk the Sakura Kushina one ? I mean if this can even be called as a parallel  , it wouldn't surprise me if they do that  to be honest i guess they are busy now with the CPR thing   :chuckle: .  


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Posted 07 February 2014 - 01:40 AM

I know it's been stressed to high heaven that the cpr is not a kiss. But come on, this is probably about as close as a kiss we will ever get from these two in the series. So god damn it let me enjoy it! :cuss:

 

 

By the way, am I the only one who had naughty thoughts when Sakura unzipped Naruto's jacket and lifted up his shirt? :chuckle:


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Posted 07 February 2014 - 03:29 AM

I know it's been stressed to high heaven that the cpr is not a kiss. But come on, this is probably about as close as a kiss we will ever get from these two in the series. So god damn it let me enjoy it! :cuss:

Well it is called the Kiss of Life, so that's something right? Could end with a real kiss though :)

 

By the way, am I the only one who had naughty thoughts when Sakura unzipped Naruto's jacket and lifted up his shirt?  :chuckle:

 

There was a small thought, but I thought it was both the wrong time and figured it was actually going where it actually went, minus the whole heart thing


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Posted 07 February 2014 - 03:38 AM

Well it is called the Kiss of Life, so that's something right? Could end with a real kiss though :)

 

There was a small thought, but I thought it was both the wrong time and figured it was actually going where it actually went, minus the whole heart thing

It is considered that. We know this scene is not intended to be romantic, we're just saying that's what it does considered time to time. I remember hearing that line, "I will give him, the kiss of life" and it was CPR. So yeah, we get it, not romantic, but it is what it is.


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Posted 07 February 2014 - 03:42 AM

Sakura's speech about the dream in front of them, it's about him becoming hokage but the stoic looks she gives him is one of the parts i love of this moment, it's in the scene that you can see even if she's not saying it, narutos current condition has given her a reaction, I said it again this is a moment bringing her closer to naruto.

It's not the CPR that's important it's what she was thinking. Sakura supports narutos dream, but to some people they never care or just keep the same old negative sakura views.

As for other reviewers, yeah forneverworld and Swayer are really not credible to my opinion, forneverworld cannot go a single moment without bashing sakura or saying hinata should be there even when praising sakura. Swayer is worse, even when sakura does a lot he doesn't care, he made it clear in his theories, he just has a sakura death wish no matter how he presents himself, but hey this is the guy who said back in 631 that Kushina should be revived only to say no to minato about the sakura girlfriend situation. This is the guy who said Karin should go heal naruto and sakura should leave naruto. This is the guy who thinks it's Kushina standing in front of Sasuke.

While they make some logical points over no pairing stuff, they just loose credibility when they spend a good porition of the time saying hinatas great sakura stinks. I mean hey they actually were suprised at 631 when even a brain dead monkey was able to tell the similarities between sakura and Kushina, even the young Japanese middle schoolers this is targeted towards. It really amazes me people were like "what I thought the pairing stuff was over in 615 why is Kishi doing this?" Seriously to think it all ended on 615 no questions asked like them and other fans, that was really displaying their common sense, even when 631 came out, forneverworld made a video just around asking sakura fans if she really was a bad character, know why he did this? He was scared, he was wrong, and he knew it. Nh didn't come in 615 as much as he wished and he had to suck it up and learn that 615 wasn't the end, 631 made that clear.

It's at this point they can yell for Sakura's head on a platter or death at her all they want, it's not going to make a difference. Some fans think she will die but I feel confident they are wrong simply because of other story elements and reasons just saying otherwise how wrong and illogical it would be when even if things came close to like a sacrifice for naruto to come back to life, better options still exist like obito going instead of sakura, it makes more sense and has more meaning for him to sacrifice himself for naruto over sakura. Sakura simply lives for not only being a main character, heroine, or the love interest, it's her development and part of being team 7, it's one part everyone on team 7 has a good ending, good as not dying, together again laughing again, naruto succeeding on his goals for hokage, Sasuke, and sakura. Any shortcoming would be just a repeat that naruto fails in someway like the others before him. Sakura dying would really impact him like obito losing rin, even if he followed what obito could have if he just went back to the village, it would just be a shortcoming. Sakura's going to live and chances of her dying are very slim. It's not bound to happen.

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Posted 07 February 2014 - 04:05 AM

It is considered that. We know this scene is not intended to be romantic, we're just saying that's what it does considered time to time. I remember hearing that line, "I will give him, the kiss of life" and it was CPR. So yeah, we get it, not romantic, but it is what it is.

I just keep repeating it cause someone on deviantART got offended by seeing the artist named the line art they colored "Kiss of Life". They felt it should just be called CPR... meaning this that's how upset other pairings seem to be about this XD


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Posted 07 February 2014 - 04:08 AM

I just keep repeating it cause someone on deviantART got offended by seeing the artist named the line art they colored "Kiss of Life". They felt it should just be called CPR... meaning this that's how upset other pairings seem to be about this XD

I see. Funny how they're targeting the wrong part of the reason why we love it.



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Posted 07 February 2014 - 05:03 AM

I'd be lying right now if I said reading some of the Anti-NS hasn't made me kittening disgusted. 

 

UGHHHHHHHHH

 

I feel extremely vindictive as hell right now. I want their reality to come crashing down like a building with no solid foundation.  






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