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Posted 30 March 2013 - 06:05 PM

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 06:06 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Mar 30 2013, 06:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maybe Sakura can master an element jutsu in the epilogue or something like that, but for the main story it wouldn't really make sense. Besides, none of the Konoha 11 (except Naruto and Sasuke) use elemental techniques, they rather focus on their own specialized jutsus. So it isn't something that brings Sakura's character down, and even Tsunade who is her mentor is never seen using any elemental techniques.

Sage mode on the other hand is something I would really like for her to use before the story ends. Although, even I'll admit that the only reason I wish for it is because there's been speculation ever since Hashirama used it that not only is it the previously discussed slug sage mode, but that it's particular ability is to automatically heal the user without having to use hand seals. As in the very ability that Madara praised Hashirama of possessing that Tsunade lacked.

Tsunade to compensate obviously created the Strength of a Hundred jutsu which in turned allowed her to utilized the full power of her superhuman strength ability without breaking the medic-nin commandments. If it's true that only Tsunade knows that technique then it would be fitting for Sakura to have mastered the original one that her teacher wasn't able to, which is the original slug sage mode. With such a technique Sakura would be able to also utilize the full extent of her super strength power without breaking the medic-nin rules, and thus have more involvement in the battlefield. Kishi did say that all the characters we love were going to shine and as far as I remember Sakura also belongs to that pack despite the hate she sometimes get.

I doubt that her shining moment would be a small scene of her healing random people in the background, we have already seen her do that throughout the war. And I find it even more ridiculous that her shining moment is related to when Sasuke appears in the battlefield like other fans speculate. I mean, what do they expect? For her to team up with Sasuke to take the Juubi down, some stupid resolution that would be after she said that she would fight together alongside Naruto. After all her big talk of helping Naruto she goes to be at Sasuke's side? It's a terrible contradiction.

So putting all that out of the way the only way I can see Sakura shining is for her to be involved in the actual battle and use her super strength. It would be pretty sad for Kishi to give her Tsunade's abilities and yet restrict her to be just like any other medic nin out there. Sakura is different from regular medics, and so she should receive the appropriate treatment, and if Kishi really means to give her a shining moment that's what will happen.

If Sakura isn't going to have Tsunade's Strength of a Hundred then she should have that sage mode that Hashirama used, and that's if it's special ability really is automatic healing. And even though it might be a coincidence the fact that Hashirama's forehead symbol in sage mode resembles Sakura back symbol in her clothes really reinforce the idea that it might be foreshadowing to it. But that's just me, I won't speak for anyone else.

As for how she learned slug sage mode, if an appropriate flashback could be used it might not look forced. It could be that she only mastered it's use right before the war and thus was never able to use it before. Maybe she learned the teachings of it from a scroll Hashirama kept hidden and that's why we never see her go away like Naruto did. And the reason we didn't see her use it in the war is because she spent the majority of the time healing injured people and not fighting, but now with the danger of Madara, Obito and the Juubi right in front of them it might be the appropriate time to go all out with all the power they have in order to have an edge in this battle. Just like Tsunade by activating her healing jutsu decided to use frontal attacks instead of being support in order to have a better chance of beating Madara.

Sage mode would make sense. However, Tsunade might be able to use lightning jutsu. When she fought Orochimaru and Kabuto, she converted her chakra into electricity to screw up his nervous system. Sakura may have the same affinity because she resembles Tsunade. It takes a while to master developing shape and converting to nature. http://www.onemanga....o_manga/164/15/

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 06:10 PM

QUOTE (Shadow1275 @ Mar 30 2013, 06:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sage mode would make sense. However, Tsunade might be able to use lightning jutsu. When she fought Orochimaru and Kabuto, she converted her chakra into electricity to screw up his nervous system. Sakura may have the same affinity because she resembles Tsunade. It takes a while to master developing shape and converting to nature. http://www.onemanga....o_manga/164/15/


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Posted 30 March 2013 - 06:14 PM

You know, I wonder if Kakashi at least tell her what's her chakra's nature.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 06:14 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Mar 31 2013, 12:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maybe Sakura can master an element jutsu in the epilogue or something like that, but for the main story it wouldn't really make sense. Besides, none of the Konoha 11 (except Naruto and Sasuke) use elemental techniques, they rather focus on their own specialized jutsus. So it isn't something that brings Sakura's character down, and even Tsunade who is her mentor is never seen using any elemental techniques.

Sage mode on the other hand is something I would really like for her to use before the story ends. Although, even I'll admit that the only reason I wish for it is because there's been speculation ever since Hashirama used it that not only is it the previously discussed slug sage mode, but that it's particular ability is to automatically heal the user without having to use hand seals. As in the very ability that Madara praised Hashirama of possessing that Tsunade lacked.

Tsunade to compensate obviously created the Strength of a Hundred jutsu which in turned allowed her to utilized the full power of her superhuman strength ability without breaking the medic-nin commandments. If it's true that only Tsunade knows that technique then it would be fitting for Sakura to have mastered the original one that her teacher wasn't able to, which is the original slug sage mode. With such a technique Sakura would be able to also utilize the full extent of her super strength power without breaking the medic-nin rules, and thus have more involvement in the battlefield. Kishi did say that all the characters we love were going to shine and as far as I remember Sakura also belongs to that pack despite the hate she sometimes get.

I doubt that her shining moment would be a small scene of her healing random people in the background, we have already seen her do that throughout the war. And I find it even more ridiculous that her shining moment is related to when Sasuke appears in the battlefield like other fans speculate. I mean, what do they expect? For her to team up with Sasuke to take the Juubi down, some stupid resolution that would be after she said that she would fight together alongside Naruto. After all her big talk of helping Naruto she goes to be at Sasuke's side? It's a terrible contradiction.

So putting all that out of the way the only way I can see Sakura shining is for her to be involved in the actual battle and use her super strength. It would be pretty sad for Kishi to give her Tsunade's abilities and yet restrict her to be just like any other medic nin out there. Sakura is different from regular medics, and so she should receive the appropriate treatment, and if Kishi really means to give her a shining moment that's what will happen.

If Sakura isn't going to have Tsunade's Strength of a Hundred then she should have that sage mode that Hashirama used, and that's if it's special ability really is automatic healing. And even though it might be a coincidence the fact that Hashirama's forehead symbol in sage mode resembles Sakura back symbol in her clothes really reinforce the idea that it might be foreshadowing to it. But that's just me, I won't speak for anyone else.

As for how she learned slug sage mode, if an appropriate flashback could be used it might not look forced. It could be that she only mastered it's use right before the war and thus was never able to use it before. Maybe she learned the teachings of it from a scroll Hashirama kept hidden and that's why we never see her go away like Naruto did. And the reason we didn't see her use it in the war is because she spent the majority of the time healing injured people and not fighting, but now with the danger of Madara, Obito and the Juubi right in front of them it might be the appropriate time to go all out with all the power they have in order to have an edge in this battle. Just like Tsunade by activating her healing jutsu decided to use frontal attacks instead of being support in order to have a better chance of beating Madara.


Bolded: my view on the bolded might be a little different, but I'm sure you'll get my idea.

I agree that I do not want the next Sakura moment to be related to Sasuke. I want her to have her moment NOW. If this happens, then Kishi has completely destroyed her character for me. Why?? because that would make her into the same satellite character back in Part I. Can't she NOT have a moment that is not related to Sasuke at all??

The reason why she needs her moment now is because this the hero's big moment. As a result, it needs to be the heroine's big moment as well.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 06:15 PM

QUOTE (candycane-chan @ Mar 30 2013, 07:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
so we're back to sakura's power up.

Senju. I think it's just a coincident, although the can symbol and the forhead mark look similar I still think that it wasn't intentional from kishi's part. Also, sakura is supposed to be from a normal clan so nothing blood related or being a descendent or anything like that applies.

wood/water/earth style. Wouldn't this take her sometime, I don't think kishi could ever give sakura one of those and explain it in a flashback.

To me sakura will always be intellectual/deceptive/medic/super strenght. Only
She'll probably be able to summon but nothing else.

I wouldn't be upset if she got sage mode wink.gif but that's not gonna happen.

Exactly. She already has some pretty amazing skills:
  • Top med nin.
  • Perfect chakra control.
  • Taijutsu.
  • Genjutsu-type.
  • Analytical/strategy skills, sharp mind.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 06:23 PM

QUOTE (Tauriel @ Mar 30 2013, 09:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Exactly. She already has some pretty amazing skills:
  • Top med nin.
  • Perfect chakra control.
  • Taijutsu.
  • Genjutsu-type.
  • Analytical/strategy skills, sharp mind.

she can also prepare poisons and use gas bombs.
Also, sakura having her shining moment doesn't have to scream "power up" she can have her development without it.

And she's not a satellite character! I don't know if her development will happen before or after another reunion with sasuke but if it's after then that would be only because kishi would want to handle the entire team 7 together not just sakura with sasuke.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 06:27 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 30 2013, 06:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know, I wonder if Kakashi at least tell her what's her chakra's nature.


I hope its revealed with her power up incoming.


QUOTE (Codus N @ Mar 30 2013, 06:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bolded: my view on the bolded might be a little different, but I'm sure you'll get my idea.

I agree that I do not want the next Sakura moment to be related to Sasuke. I want her to have her moment NOW. If this happens, then Kishi has completely destroyed her character for me. Why?? because that would make her into the same satellite character back in Part I. Can't she NOT have a moment that is not related to Sasuke at all??

The reason why she needs her moment now is because this the hero's big moment. As a result, it needs to be the heroine's big moment as well.


i'm sure Shes had moments without involving Sasuke

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 06:30 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Mar 30 2013, 02:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I hope its revealed with her power up incoming.




i'm sure Shes had moments without involving Sasuke

First arc of part 2. I think a lot of people in here are stained that she will be away or non-existence until Sasuke is brought up. That's nonsense. I know that she hasn't gotten a fight in a while, but that doesn't mean she's gone. Just chill down and stop letting the last event cloud the entire judgment. That's all I'm saying.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 06:30 PM

QUOTE (candycane-chan @ Mar 30 2013, 08:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
she can also prepare poisons and use gas bombs.
Also, sakura having her shining moment doesn't have to scream "power up" she can have her development about it.

Yeah, she's probably the most realistic character in the manga and that's what makes her special and loveable. She could form a contract with slugs to summon them, maybe Kishi will reveal some hidden power of hers, but I personally don't want it to be something unbelievable... that would be awkward and will damage her character in some way. It's a bit too late for some god-of-shibobi level power release.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 06:33 PM

QUOTE (Tauriel @ Mar 30 2013, 02:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, she's probably the most realistic character in the manga and that's what makes her special and loveable. She could form a contract with slugs to summon them, maybe Kishi will reveal some hidden power of hers, but I personally don't want it to be something unbelievable... that would be awkward and will damage her character in some way. It's a bit too late for some god-of-shibobi level power release.

I don't think Kishi will have her become too incredible like the ones we dealing with. I just think perhaps she will be the strongest of the K9 people, just not her team. However, if she can learn more, she will be more impressive than Tsunade as Kakashi pointed out that she's learning stuff that's not originally her trait. We'll see though.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 06:41 PM

QUOTE (Tauriel @ Mar 30 2013, 02:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Exactly. She already has some pretty amazing skills:
  • Top med nin.
  • Perfect chakra control.
  • Taijutsu.
  • Genjutsu-type.
  • Analytical/strategy skills, sharp mind.

Sakura has great skills as she is. There's no doubt about that.

The only reason I started talking about the slug sage mode, or maybe the Strength of a Hundred, as a technique she could use is because it would fit with the usage of the medic-nin rules and when it's appropriate to break them.

Also, I don't think Sakura is related to the Senju at all. I only think that her family symbol foreshadows that fact that she'll learn Hashi's sage mode. I don't think there's a history behind Sakura's symbol, I just think Kishi made it similar to Hashi's forehead mark to hint at the possible future developments of Sakura doing the same technique which would give her a forehead mark that matches to one she always used on her back.

As for the mention of Tsunade using lighting nature, it's possible, but it's still not confirmed. Even still, it's not something she uses in a significant way or often like Sasuke's chidori or Kakashi's raikiri. It doesn't really define her abilities.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 06:42 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 30 2013, 07:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't think Kishi will have her become too incredible like the ones we dealing with. I just think perhaps she will be the strongest of the K9 people, just not her team. However, if she can learn more, she will be more impressive than Tsunade as Kakashi pointed out that she's learning stuff that's not originally her trait. We'll see though.

Agreed, I think that the next time we see Sakura she is going to have a pure Sakura moment without Naruto or Sasuke involved or Naruto admiring her power in the distance.[Which he has done before.] As for the boost, I don't think Sakura will ever be on par strength wise with Naruto or Sasuke but I think she will be a close second.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 06:47 PM

QUOTE (Shadow1275 @ Mar 30 2013, 02:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Agreed, I think that the next time we see Sakura she is going to have a pure Sakura moment without Naruto or Sasuke involved or Naruto admiring her power in the distance.[Which he has done before.] As for the boost, I don't think Sakura will ever be on par strength wise with Naruto or Sasuke but I think she will be a close second.

Of course. She will be the best of the K9 group section, just not in her team. Nothing wrong with that to be honest. I don't think she's related to the past clan, but you know, perhaps because of her intelligence, she can do something that can help her to gain something that is seen as impossible. I mean she's a quick learner and even Tsunade was surprised that she managed to get the healing power quick. We just have to see what's next.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 06:51 PM

QUOTE (Codus N @ Mar 30 2013, 03:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bolded: my view on the bolded might be a little different, but I'm sure you'll get my idea.

I agree that I do not want the next Sakura moment to be related to Sasuke. I want her to have her moment NOW. If this happens, then Kishi has completely destroyed her character for me. Why?? because that would make her into the same satellite character back in Part I. Can't she NOT have a moment that is not related to Sasuke at all??

The reason why she needs her moment now is because this the hero's big moment. As a result, it needs to be the heroine's big moment as well.

I dont see it as hero big's moment, Naruto's big moment will be a fight against Sasuke it's even stated i dont know who but someome said that if Sasuke turns Madara again, then the victory on that battlefield is meaningless.
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Posted 30 March 2013 - 06:51 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 30 2013, 07:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Of course. She will be the best of the K9 group section, just not in her team. Nothing wrong with that to be honest. I don't think she's related to the past clan, but you know, perhaps because of her intelligence, she can do something that can help her to gain something that is seen as impossible. I mean she's a quick learner and even Tsunade was surprised that she managed to get the healing power quick. We just have to see what's next.

Nice sig. happy.gif

Haha thanks, took me a couple fustrating trys to get it right but it was worth it. cool.gif
The other X factor I want to point out is that Orochimaru is back at full power. Relating to the flashback, you have to wonder what his motives are concerning Sasuke. I think that because he wants to master all types of jutsu and what Kabuto said about their research. If Sasuke is redeemed or more likely not, Orochimaru may still try to take his body over for the sharingan which we know is the natural evolution of the Rinnegan. Now Sasuke who has already achieved the EMS has plenty of time to aquire the rinnegan because even though Madara achieved it right before he died, Madara was still not old during his battle with Hashirama.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 06:53 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Mar 30 2013, 08:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sakura has great skills as she is. There's no doubt about that.

The only reason I started talking about the slug sage mode, or maybe the Strength of a Hundred, as a technique she could use is because it would fit with the usage of the medic-nin rules and when it's appropriate to break them.

Also, I don't think Sakura is related to the Senju at all. I only think that her family symbol foreshadows that fact that she'll learn Hashi's sage mode. I don't think there's a history behind Sakura's symbol, I just think Kishi made it similar to Hashi's forehead mark to hint at the possible future developments of Sakura doing the same technique which would give her a forehead mark that matches to one she always used on her back.

As for the mention of Tsunade using lighting nature, it's possible, but it's still not confirmed. Even still, it's not something she uses in a significant way or often like Sasuke's chidori or Kakashi's raikiri. It doesn't really define her abilities.

That's the point. New abilities/or power-up should be related to her existing skills. Another way it would look out of place... smile.gif

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 06:58 PM

QUOTE (Tauriel @ Mar 30 2013, 07:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's the point. New abilities/or power-up should be related to her existing skills. Another way it would look out of place... smile.gif

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A lot of things changed since 3rd databook publication though.. tongue.gif


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Posted 30 March 2013 - 07:00 PM

I wonder if there's a 4th databook already? If not when will it come out? At the end of the series? lol

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 07:01 PM

QUOTE (StrikerTheNoble @ Mar 30 2013, 03:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yes a lot of things.

I dont see an arrow pointing to Sakura.
Only on the relations chart on the Pain's arc.
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