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Started by Chatte, Nov 08 2014 01:23 PM
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Posted 03 December 2014 - 02:35 PM

I'm sorry can you be more specific?

Like they're trying to be cute by releasing the movie on that day and all, which most likely result in Kishi being rushed out of the way like he has been cancelled. It's so political that it's no wonder it came off so low rant. Not to mention, so many rushed aspects.

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Posted 03 December 2014 - 02:44 PM

Rushed.  Yes, exactly.  He rushed.  He probably had to chop off some planned storyline to finish before December 6th, and the resulting truncated storyline landed him on chapter 699.  (Chapter 700 was just to get an even number.)  

 

My basic understanding of the manga process is this.....  Up to six months out, the mangaka will discuss the direction of the story with the editor.  "I want to build up to a scene where so and so fight" etc.  Between 1-3 months ahead of time, they present a script to the editor, who works through it.  Within a month before production, the artist is sketching and inking, and then in the two weeks before publication he gives it to the assistants to fill in backgrounds, add lettering, and such.  Deadline is almost always one week before planned print date.  

 

When Kishi realized that whatever extra stuff he had hoped to fit in would land him after Dec 6th, he had to chop off a couple of weeks of story.  There is where all our loose ends went.


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Posted 03 December 2014 - 02:50 PM

Rushed.  Yes, exactly.  He rushed.  He probably had to chop off some planned storyline to finish before December 6th, and the resulting truncated storyline landed him on chapter 699.  (Chapter 700 was just to get an even number.)  
 
My basic understanding of the manga process is this.....  Up to six months out, the mangaka will discuss the direction of the story with the editor.  "I want to build up to a scene where so and so fight" etc.  Between 1-3 months ahead of time, they present a script to the editor, who works through it.  Within a month before production, the artist is sketching and inking, and then in the two weeks before publication he gives it to the assistants to fill in backgrounds, add lettering, and such.  Deadline is almost always one week before planned print date.  
 
When Kishi realized that whatever extra stuff he had hoped to fit in would land him after Dec 6th, he had to chop off a couple of weeks of story.  There is where all our loose ends went.

Pretty much but the problem is he had so many of them. So much that he had to address them to prevent from absolute mess that will never get explained and that's what happened. Not to mention he brought down so many characters and break many logics (Susanoo with no eyes?) to reach his path. So it's too many mistakes and burnt bridges from the past to buildup the climax. Now they're all wasted for nothing. This is why you don't create a complex plot.

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Posted 03 December 2014 - 02:56 PM

When Kishi realized that whatever extra stuff he had hoped to fit in would land him after Dec 6th, he had to chop off a couple of weeks of story.  There is where all our loose ends went.

I think it's not that way, just by looking on how many he left out. One thing on my mind was... Maybe Kishimoto forced this way? So at least he was trying to stay "true" as much as he can? And only kittented on 2 last chapters, but... I don't belive he coudn't see all the story's he told us about generations to succed and about Naruto's feelings to Sakura and etc, to be smashed by ooc chapters.


Pretty much but the problem is he had so many of them. So much that he had to address them to prevent from absolute mess that will never get explained and that's what happened. Not to mention he brought down so many characters and break many logics (Susanoo with no eyes?) to reach his path. So it's too many mistakes and burnt bridges from the past to buildup the climax. Now they're all wasted for nothing. This is why you don't create a complex plot.

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Posted 03 December 2014 - 03:00 PM

Rushed.  Yes, exactly.  He rushed.  He probably had to chop off some planned storyline to finish before December 6th, and the resulting truncated storyline landed him on chapter 699.  (Chapter 700 was just to get an even number.)  

 

My basic understanding of the manga process is this.....  Up to six months out, the mangaka will discuss the direction of the story with the editor.  "I want to build up to a scene where so and so fight" etc.  Between 1-3 months ahead of time, they present a script to the editor, who works through it.  Within a month before production, the artist is sketching and inking, and then in the two weeks before publication he gives it to the assistants to fill in backgrounds, add lettering, and such.  Deadline is almost always one week before planned print date.  

 

When Kishi realized that whatever extra stuff he had hoped to fit in would land him after Dec 6th, he had to chop off a couple of weeks of story.  There is where all our loose ends went.

You know, this makes sense. That explains all the many damn plot holes from the ending! And it must have been just recently. TenTen's Rikodou Sennin tools turned out to be useless, revealing Karin to be an Uzumaki was never addressed again, the mystery about Kaguya and her other son Hamura, etc. etc. He rushed b/c he didn't have time to address every little plot hole.

Kishi should have written a more concise storyline at the end. Everything spiraled out of control because he attempted to address literally everything. If he had never mentioned Kaguya in the first place that would have been fine in my opinion. - Not that many people liked her anyways. Sure, it is nice to learn more about the historical aspects of the series, but not for the sake of the quality of the manga. I was disappointed as hell that the final fight b/w Naruto and Sasuke was only 5 chapters long. Without the Kaguya fight, it could have been longer and executed better.

A good example in my opinion is Aang: The Last Airbender. Not once did anyone explain or mention who the first avatar was. Did the majority of the fandom complain when the series ended? No. - Nice to know though who the first avatar was thanks to the sequel The Legend of Korra.


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Posted 03 December 2014 - 03:27 PM

Speaking of Korra, looks like we have a new meme:

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Posted 03 December 2014 - 03:31 PM

I know, right? This whole thing sounds like a nightmare before Christmas for NaruSaku and general Naruto fans...

An in the end I smell narusaku 'my dearest friend, may I have your hand? I would deeply enjoy being by your side for all eternity' I so hope naruto compliments her forehead

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Posted 03 December 2014 - 03:33 PM

Speaking of Korra, looks like we have a new meme:

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Haha that was priceless. 

 

 

 

 

btw I remember this scene from Spiderman 3 and for some reason Kishi came into mind:

 

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Posted 03 December 2014 - 03:33 PM

Wait ... theese interviews ... from NF ... they are ... not real ... right?  :twitch:


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Posted 03 December 2014 - 03:36 PM

Wait ... theese interviews ... from NF ... they are ... not real ... right?  :twitch:

lol no

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Posted 03 December 2014 - 03:37 PM

Wait ... theese interviews ... from NF ... they are ... not real ... right?  :twitch:

It should be. Can't get worse than sexist statement.

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Posted 03 December 2014 - 03:42 PM

Wait ... theese interviews ... from NF ... they are ... not real ... right?  :twitch:

lol XD XD XD They are not. I didn't think that people would take them for real. It's from a tumblr user who wrote Liat, Liar.

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Posted 03 December 2014 - 03:43 PM

At least they say what Kishi won't admit.
 


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Posted 03 December 2014 - 03:58 PM

An in the end I smell narusaku 'my dearest friend, may I have your hand? I would deeply enjoy being by your side for all eternity' I so hope naruto compliments her forehead

Oooh, I hope that too!


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Posted 03 December 2014 - 04:01 PM

An in the end I smell narusaku 'my dearest friend, may I have your hand? I would deeply enjoy being by your side for all eternity' I so hope naruto compliments her forehead

i smell it too and it smells pretty damn good.


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Posted 03 December 2014 - 04:04 PM

An in the end I smell narusaku 'my dearest friend, may I have your hand? I would deeply enjoy being by your side for all eternity' I so hope naruto compliments her forehead

 

Smells pretty damned fine to me!  :yes:

 

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Posted 03 December 2014 - 04:10 PM

lol XD XD XD They are not. I didn't think that people would take them for real. It's from a tumblr user who wrote Liat, Liar.

http://bodegacowboy.tumblr.com/

I think he's also a member in here  @Candleguy  I think   , but boy did that made me laugh he was spot on  :lmao:  :lmao:  :lmao: .


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Posted 03 December 2014 - 04:22 PM

I think he's also a member in here  @Candleguy  I think   , but boy did that made me laugh he was spot on  :lmao:  :lmao:  :lmao: .

yup, that's him. He's one of the best NaruSaku writers in my opinion ^^


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Posted 03 December 2014 - 04:25 PM

Ah, I can't help it but can't wait for us to be done with all this drama. :)


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Posted 03 December 2014 - 04:33 PM

Ah, I can't help it but can't wait for us to be done with all this drama. :)

same here :):)


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