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[sushi.]

No, if there had been NaruSaku hints this arc I would have believed it to be endgame. All I can say is that these developments have been a major disappointment but I'm still trying to look objectively at what Kishimoto's doing, regardless of what I would like to happen.

We didn't need any NS moments so far because we already know he loves Sakura. The moment he talked with Sai, I just knew. Kishi couldn't make it any more clear.

My problem is not that we don't have any NS moments, we don't even have Sakura moments. Unlike NaruHina, NS moments comes from both sides. If he doesn't show us some Sakura, there won't be NS moments. I just miss Sakura. D: I really think he will give her development, but this is Kishi's weakpoint, just don't screw up Kishi. x)

[TouKen4Life3g]

Yes to the sig,

And what if kishi was more like this i remember there was enought panic once hintata was thinking about holding narutos hand and being beside him but we all thought it was in a romantic matter so we where pist back then, now Kishi made it happen like this (mabey showing us no not romantic at all so calm down) OFC we went crazy and now Kishi is like How do i reach these kids got that from southpark hahaha but i think its not romantic at all anymore too many chapters left.

It's like I said in my LAP on this chapter. If there's no romance in this moment and this is his way of showing holding hand, them kudos to Kishi. Everyone assumed the holding hand is a deal breaker, but now that it happened, what's there left to finish her development other than ready for Hyuuga Heir, which most likely we will see in the epilogue. It all lies in the upcoming chapters. While I still wait for Sakura, I would give credit that she has been appearing in each chapters without necessary to do so, but Kishi did. This arc is something that you must take it as an overall perspective. Before, it was easy to determine if it's gets better or worse as you read, but this one you'll need to read as a whole. Granted it's always good to do that but yeah, since this arc lasts very long, best to recap.

[CynMichi]

Hello all I am a long time "anonymous guest" who is quite unhappy with the newest chapter. I have to be honest the whole thing stings a bit until you take a step back and review everything up to now.

When everyone arrived on the battlefield Sakura instinctively knows what to do to aid Naruto. This whole time she has been standing next to him through battles, but her personal goal was to stand in front of him so he could "see her back". Everything she's done up to now, her training and her lies, have been to help/protect Naruto in his effort to return Sasuke. While I think Sasuke is what she wanted at first, her priorities have shifted with maturity or so I hope. As someone previously mentioned, Chiyo commented to Sakura during her best moment in the manga telling her not to sacrifice her life unless it was for her precious person. I hope she does just that for Naruto .... I have a theory on that I posted in another thread....

Now Hinata's whole goal is to stand beside him and get to the point where Naruto notices her existence and sacrifice because he certainly paid her no mind following the Pein ordeal. IMO holding his hand is garnering acknowledgment, which could potentially lead to romantic feelings don't get me wrong.... But I think the realization here is that Naruto is oblivious to the fact he doesn't have to shoulder burdens on his own and now he sees everyone is there with him fighting together. There are others surrounding him that, like his parents, are willing to sacrifice for his well being. This scene wouldn't have made me so angry if not for Hinata's inner monologue regarding Naruto's big strong hands.....your a fan girl .....

I,like most readers, hated Sakura's fangirling ways. Only when she put on her big girl panties and started fighting for herself did I gain real interest in her character. Hinata just lost her cousin and protector and she is fangirling... Stand up lead your clan for Neji's memory and fight! This is where her character is at fail currently .....

Hinata may be by his side ......but Sakura IMO is still in front! Let's wait and have faith in Kishimoto!

[Slextrem]

This video has some good points, although some of them are bias but everyone is bias to a degree.
I found it helpful and gave out some thoughts and opinions to what this chapters suggests.

Ahh~ I acknowledge that my arguments have some bias in them. I'm not a neutral fan so it's difficult to hold back. I'll need to work on that in the future.
I tried to look at things from all sides though. I'm glad that you enjoyed some of it.

[sushi.]

Ahh~ I acknowledge that my arguments have some bias in them. I'm not a neutral fan so it's difficult to hold back. I'll need to work on that in the future.
I tried to look at things from all sides though. I'm glad that you enjoyed some of it.

That NH fan that said you should be an NH fan, he commented on my previous videos. I deleted my account, but made a new one with a similar name. Honestly, you should just stay away from him, I had major debates with him in 2011 or something. He doesn't listen XD, he's like VJ87G.

[Slextrem]

That NH fan that said you should be an NH fan, he commented on my previous videos. I deleted my account, but made a new one with a similar name. Honestly, you should just stay away from him, I had major debates with him in 2011 or something. He doesn't listen XD, he's like VJ87G.

That doesn't surprise me at all.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I just had a thought. Shouldn't there be a "boss battle" to end this battle? I don't know, but if Kishi wants to get rid of Obito or maybe both Obito/Madara (though it does point Obito to be defeated), how would he make one or both lose? Juubi is crucial, but it feels like tradition to have a boss fight. You know, the bad guy is strong, back and forth action, final trump card from both sides and the ending. I don't know, I should wait of course.

[Capn Banjo]

I just had a thought. Shouldn't there be a "boss battle" to end this battle? I don't know, but if Kishi wants to get rid of Obito or maybe both Obito/Madara (though it does point Obito to be defeated), how would he make one or both lose? Juubi is crucial, but it feels like tradition to have a boss fight. You know, the bad guy is strong, back and forth action, final trump card from both sides and the ending. I don't know, I should wait of course.

I can't help but wonder if/when Obito and Madara might betray one another. That would make for an interesting twist. Maybe Madara was ultimately behind Rin's death?

[Slextrem]

I can't help but wonder if/when Obito and Madara might betray one another. That would make for an interesting twist. Maybe Madara was ultimately behind Rin's death?

LOL! That gif... xD Yeah, I was just saying that in another thread. I'll repost:

I feel like Madara had something to do with Rin dying... I don't know. It's always felt like he was trying to use Obito, and Obito never wanted to join up with him. The best way to get him to 'come to the dark side' was killing the person he wanted to protect the most - Rin. It's clear that Kakashi didn't kill her out of the blue either. The enemy shinobi wanted her body for something. Argh, I want to know what happened~!!!

That being said, it would be really interesting if Madara were the one to complete the parallel. Have him attack Sakura and then reveal to Obito that he was also the one behind Rin's death. The drama....

[kirabook]

I think Obito is definitely going to go in this *arc. Madara might go too, but I don't see it happening. 1 thing is for sure, now that Juubi is here, I don't think he's going to be gone after this arc. Unless.... he isn't able to complete his final form and all is lost. Obito gone, Juubi gone, only Madara remains.

Edited by kirabook, 30 December 2012 - 06:17 PM.

[T XD]

I can't help but wonder if/when Obito and Madara might betray one another. That would make for an interesting twist. Maybe Madara was ultimately behind Rin's death?

I always had this thought that Madara was behind Rin's death, and when I see Madara talking to Obito, he seems from his dialogues the type of villain that betrays his partner.

Edited by T XD, 30 December 2012 - 06:08 PM.

[Capn Banjo]

I think Obito is definitely going to go in this chapter. Madara might go too, but I don't see it happening. 1 thing is for sure, now that Juubi is here, I don't think he's going to be gone after this arc. Unless.... he isn't able to complete his final form and all is lost. Obito gone, Juubi gone, only Madara remains.

And should that happen, and only Madara remains, then they still have to find his weakness. Now I may be overlooking something from past chapters, but I can't think of anything that might 'throw off' the Edo Tensei that revived Madara in the form that he is. Since he can't have the Juubi sealed within him without a living body, then surely he has a backup plan if something were to happen to Obito, right? His calm demeanor indicates he isn't done scheming yet.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Someone refresh my memory but don't they need a sacrifice to complete Juubi? If so, Obito could die and Madara may live, which he may bump to Sasuke at one point.

[kirabook]

No doubt his next target is Sasuke, question is is if he knows about Sasuke.

I've always wondered, would Madara be proud of Sasuke or what? It just seems like Sasuke is a disgrace to everything, even Madara, but then again, he could be proud of Sasuke.

[TouKen4Life3g]

No doubt his next target is Sasuke, question is is if he knows about Sasuke.

I've always wondered, would Madara be proud of Sasuke or what? It just seems like Sasuke is a disgrace to everything, even Madara, but then again, he could be proud of Sasuke.

I don't know if he knows but he may bump to him and think he will be great to replace Obito because you know, Madara will do whatever it takes to get his wish. One thing I want to know is that does Madara still wants Kyuubi? I don't remember much but it seems like he does even after Juubi was already awaken. The man wants his pet.

[HalfStarStudios]

Someone refresh my memory but don't they need a sacrifice to complete Juubi? If so, Obito could die and Madara may live, which he may bump to Sasuke at one point.

I don't ever remember that being said. All I remember is that Madara wanted Obito to revive him into a regular body and not an Edo body which will end up killing Obito.

[Capn Banjo]

I don't know if he knows but he may bump to him and think he will be great to replace Obito because you know, Madara will do whatever it takes to get his wish. One thing I want to know is that does Madara still wants Kyuubi? I don't remember much but it seems like he does even after Juubi was already awaken. The man wants his pet.

Also, what might be interesting to see is if Madara's plan doesn't really do what he told Obito it does, but rather it's a way for him to gain greater power. I mean, after all, he is evil, so it wouldn't be surprising if he had lied to Obito.

[Slextrem]

Also, what might be interesting to see is if Madara's plan doesn't really do what he told Obito it does, but rather it's a way for him to gain greater power. I mean, after all, he is evil, so it wouldn't be surprising if he had lied to Obito.

I never thought of that....

[TouKen4Life3g]

I don't ever remember that being said. All I remember is that Madara wanted Obito to revive him into a regular body and not an Edo body which will end up killing Obito.

Ok, I must be sleepy. Work today is really boring. Nothing but cold outside. At least I have Internet to chat with you guys.

Also, what might be interesting to see is if Madara's plan doesn't really do what he told Obito it does, but rather it's a way for him to gain greater power. I mean, after all, he is evil, so it wouldn't be surprising if he had lied to Obito.

The interesting part is that these two do have same goal but different intentions. I can't help but think that Obito might try to kill Kakashi when Juubi is defeated, like "I can't never see Rin because of you!" Of course, he doesn't blame him for that moment but he will take his anger of losing to someone and Kakashi seems best fit. Obito so far looks pissed that the alliance can destroy his dream. He was mad when Madara acknowledged the strength of the alliance as to say "Hm, I won't be surprised we lose." Obito is incredibly desperate to win.

[lupina]

Also, what might be interesting to see is if Madara's plan doesn't really do what he told Obito it does, but rather it's a way for him to gain greater power. I mean, after all, he is evil, so it wouldn't be surprising if he had lied to Obito.

I also thought of that. Or he expects Obito to betray him.