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[Akashi]

Sudden realization: funny how fictional characters can ruin you life.

Some of you guys think sakura is going to be injured/killed. I can agree with this but Naruto could also be the one to be injured/killed.

Couple of questions...

1) who will inflict this injury/kill?

2) on who? out of the main characters??

Naruto being close to death could become a crucial moment in NaruSaku development. This might happen during the Sasuke vs Naruto fight, remember when Naruto said that when he and Sasuke will meet next time they will probably both die? Naruto's death (something close to it) could work as a trigger and make Sakura realize that she's losing/lost her true love.

Edited by Tauriel, 29 March 2013 - 04:47 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Some of you guys think sakura is going to be injured/killed. I can agree with this but Naruto could also be the one to be injured/killed.

Couple of questions...

1) who will inflict this injury/kill?

2) on who? out of the main characters??

Don't think Sakura will get killed, though targeted at certain point.

1) Obito. As of now, it's all about Obito vs. Naruto as Madara is the grade examiner.

2) Sakura could get hurt a lot, but perhaps the biggest blow may be prevented by Naruto because he didn't KSM mode on time or Kakashi for not letting history repeats itself.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

OK let me make this straight I already agree with most of you point is the past more of your point are fact that I also support with out the degrading aspect, but anyway that was not my point, my point is that Kishi does not have a valid reason for Naruto to move on from loving Sakura, he likes her since they were 8 or 9 while she only had eye for another man but that never stopped him from trying, what makes this worst now is that Sakura is becoming closer and closer to Naruto to a point where she wants to give herself a chance with him despite her feelings for someone else. What would happen if the feelings she have for Sasuke completely fades away because of their development.

I mean that Kishi at this point does not have any solid reason for Naruto to move on from loving Sakura only if he use Kushina advice has a plot twists while ignoring the obvious fact that NS is MK 2.0

Naruto giving up on Sakura will be like giving up on his own character and his never give up mentality, but it you force in Kushina advice event when it clearly doesn't fit NH at all it will look like Naruto fulfilling his mother last wish in her memory.

Again this is only if Kishimoto want to force NH on the readers, this will be his only excuse to change Naruto's feelings since there is no other valid reason to do so.
This is why I say Naruto will not be betraying his character since he is following one of his mother last wish.

On the other hand Kishi will be the one who betrayed on his main character to give more value to a side character, he will be the one betraying on his own story since NS is the only pairing that has being develop from top to bottom in this manga while only needing one more push for them to become an official pairing mostly because their feelings were slowly but steadily develop on both sides through the Manga.

http://narusaku.foro...-ss-nh-y-pro-ns

My blood boils to see a character who has contributed nothing on the manga, take ownership and be much more important than even Neji, when a dead sacrifice. Sakura Or that in one form or another has always been with the blonde was not heroin? Now naruhinas be eating rainbow of happiness and tears, just a little sweaty hand. I'm starting to hate Kishimoto, first a manga sh ... and now this ...

done by google translator.

I just went there to lurk and look like they had their "64 cover thread" like us.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 29 March 2013 - 09:47 PM.

[HauntedCake]

http://narusaku.foro...-ss-nh-y-pro-ns

Ahaha nice

[FoolishYoungling]

http://narusaku.foro...-ss-nh-y-pro-ns

English?

[Shadow1275]

Sudden realization: funny how fictional characters can ruin you life.

Naruto being close to death could become a crucial moment in NaruSaku development. This might happen during the Sasuke vs Naruto fight, remember when Naruto said that when he and Sasuke will meet next time they will probably both die? Naruto's death (something close to it) could work as a trigger and make Sakura realize that she's losing/lost her true love.

Agreed. I think that perhaps Naruto will lose the Nine-tails, Sakura will think he is dead because remember when she asked Chiyo if the beasts could be removed Chiyo said that when they are the jinchurriki die. What she doesn't know is because Naruto is an Uzumaki, he will survive.

Also, looking at Hashirama's story so far, it doesn't look like Sasuke is going to change his mind too much. Hashirama promised Madara that he would be the first Hokage. However, Tobirama got Hashirama to agree to allow the people to vote knowing that the Uchiha would lose out. Now voting is the way it should be done, but the main thing is that Madara sees that as a betrayal. coupled with Tobirama eliminating the Uchiha from the government by making them the police force I don't really see Sasuke changing back to being good. Of course if Sasuke does not change than Konoha is in trouble. The question is what happens next?

As for Kishi shifting the focus to Hinata, he has done this before. Remember all the books dedicated to Jiraiya and then Asuma and shikamaru. I think the fact that Hinata only got one or two chapters isn't anything to worry about.

Edited by Shadow1275, 29 March 2013 - 10:02 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Agreed. I think that perhaps Naruto will lose the Nine-tails, Sakura will think he is dead because remember when she asked Chiyo if the beasts could be removed Chiyo said that when they are the jinchurriki die. What she doesn't know is because Naruto is an Uzumaki, he will survive.

Also, looking at Hashirama's story so far, it doesn't look like Sasuke is going to change his mind too much. Hashirama promised Madara that he would be the first Hokage. However, Tobirama got Hashirama to agree to allow the people to vote knowing that the Uchiha would lose out. Now voting is the way it should be done, but the main thing is that Madara sees that as a betrayal. coupled with Tobirama eliminating the Uchiha from the government by making them the police force I don't really see Sasuke changing back to being good. Of course if Sasuke does not change than Konoha is in trouble. The question is what happens next?

As for Kishi shifting the focus to Hinata, he has done this before. Remember all the books dedicated to Jiraiya and then Asuma and shikamaru. I think the fact that Hinata only got one or two chapters isn't anything to worry about.

The problem is that even the Uchiha didnt wanted Madara to become Hokage, Madara wanted to continue the war and he give up because he was forced to accept the peace offer.
This is the reason why he says "they dont even like me when i only wan to protect them".
Madara took bad decisions as leader of the uchihas.
At the end he asks Hashirama to choose between him and his brother which this image describes Madara well
He could have a peacefull life get a wife and have kids but choose to accept his pain forever.



And hashirama/Tobirama relationship was basically Tobirama with this :

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 29 March 2013 - 10:18 PM.

[Shadow1275]

The problem is that even the Uchiha didnt wanted Madara to become Hokage, Madara wanted to continue the war and he give up because he was forced to accept the peace offer.
This is the reason why he says "they dont even like me when i only wan to protect them".
Madara took bad decisions as leader of the uchihas.
At the end he asks Hashirama to choose between him and his brother which this image describes Madara well



And hashirama/Tobirama relationship was basically Tobirama with this :

True, but Madara is not the main point. the Uchiha were still distanced from the Hokage position which led to their hatred and the eventual Coup De Tat. Itachi was then forced to kill them in order to keep the peace. Because of Tobirama, the Uchiha decided to rebel. Perhaps this will cause Sasuke to only want to kill Tobirama and the Third Hokage. Don't forget that Hashirama also eventually agreed with his brother as well. I think this may lead to the inevitable showdown between Naruto and Sasuke.

[TouKen4Life3g]

http://narusaku.foro...-ss-nh-y-pro-ns


I just went there to lurk and look like they had their "64 cover thread" like us.

Nice. Just nice.

I like your sig.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

True, but Madara is not the main point. the Uchiha were still distanced from the Hokage position which led to their hatred and the eventual Coup De Tat. Itachi was then forced to kill them in order to keep the peace. Because of Tobirama, the Uchiha decided to rebel. Perhaps this will cause Sasuke to only want to kill Tobirama and the Third Hokage. Don't forget that Hashirama also eventually agreed with his brother as well. I think this may lead to the inevitable showdown between Naruto and Sasuke.

And dont?
I still didnt understand why the uchiha are more suscetible to hate, look at hashirama he's not even revengefull because the uchihas killed his younger brother, and also Tobirama didnt hold a grudge agaisnt Madara, only that Tobirama knew that Madara would do something stupid, Tobirama is like Shikamaru and he was right.
They got distanced thanks to Madara who almost destroyed the village, but he wasnt guilty and moreover they got a special position and poorly explained that "Those who do the justice are hated?" i never see any kind of hate coming to towards the uchihas they were viewed as elite and the village were proud of the uchiha, i dont understand, maybe from the kage but still it was something that could had been resolved with a conversation but the uchihas wanted to make a coup d' etat instead, Itachi was right, Madara and Sasuke are just emos who does not have reasons to act like that.
The Uchihas politcally had the same power as the other clan's.

Hashirama failed for not listening to reality.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 29 March 2013 - 10:32 PM.

[Shadow1275]

And dont?
I still didnt understand why the uchiha are more suscetible to hate, look at hashirama he's not even revengefull because the uchihas killed his younger brother, and also Tobirama didnt hold a grudge agaisnt Madara, only that Tobirama knew that Madara would do something stupid, Tobirama is like Shikamaru and he was right.
They got distanced thanks to Madara who almost destroyed the village, but he wasnt guilty and moreover they got a special position and poorly explained that "Those who do the justice are hated?" i never see any kind of hate coming to towards the uchihas they were viewed as elite and the village were proud of the uchiha, i dont understand, maybe from the kage but still it was something that could had been resolved with a conversation but the uchihas wanted to make a coup d' etat instead, Itachi was right, Madara and Sasuke are just emos who does not have reasons to act like that.
The Uchihas politcally had the same power as the other clan's.

Agreed they did not have many reasons for this. However, because the older son of the sage of the 6 paths believes in power, the Uchiha saw this as a personal buffer between them and the Hokage position or in other words, power. The reason why I don't think Sasuke will change is that throughout the whole story he has had one goal which is to achieve power. Whether it was the power to defeat his brother, or eternal mangekyo sharingan. Though I will point out that they were forced to live in a district of the village. Naruto being made after the younger son believes that love is the answer which is why I think that he will get Sakura in the end as Sasuke only cares about power. While, that and the other Hundred reasons why ;)

Edited by Shadow1275, 29 March 2013 - 10:40 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Agreed they did not have many reasons for this. However, because the older son of the sage of the 6 paths believes in power, the Uchiha saw this as a personal buffer between them and the Hokage position or in other words, power. The reason why I don't think Sasuke will change is that throughout the whole story he has had one goal which is to achieve power. Whether it was the power to defeat his brother, or eternal mangekyo sharingan. Though I will point out that they were forced to live in a district of the village. Naruto being made after the younger son believes that love is the answer which is why I think that he will get Sakura in the end as Sasuke only cares about power. While, that and the other Hundred reasons why

THe other clans live on other districts, Yamanaka only had a shop on the village, also for the Nara clan and so on.
It was just an excuse for power.

[Akashi]

Agreed they did not have many reasons for this. However, because the older son of the sage of the 6 paths believes in power, the Uchiha saw this as a personal buffer between them and the Hokage position or in other words, power. The reason why I don't think Sasuke will change is that throughout the whole story he has had one goal which is to achieve power. Whether it was the power to defeat his brother, or eternal mangekyo sharingan. Though I will point out that they were forced to live in a district of the village. Naruto being made after the younger son believes that love is the answer which is why I think that he will get Sakura in the end as Sasuke only cares about power. While, that and the other Hundred reasons why ;)

Good point.
Although I have a strong feeling that Sasuke's saving must take place in order for NS to happen.

1. Naruto is fixed on him and believes that he doesn't deserve to become Hokage/confess to Sakura because he's unable to save one friend/keep his promise.
2. I wouldn't like people saying (when NaruSaku happens) that they ended up together because Sasuke died. If he dies...

Yet another scenario is that after Sasuke will do something that will lead to his redemption, but will refuse to come back to Konoha (he has tons of reasons to do so).

THe other clans live on other districts, Yamanaka only had a shop on the village, also for the Nara clan and so on.
It was just an excuse for power.

As far as I remember all Uchihas lived in some kind of internment... in a far corner of the village. While people from other clans had houses, apartments all around Konoha. Uchihas were isolated.

Edited by Tauriel, 29 March 2013 - 10:58 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Good point.
Although I have a strong feeling that Sasuke's saving must take place in order for NS to happen.

1. Naruto is fixed on him and believes that he doesn't deserve to become Hokage/confess to Sakura because he's unable to save one friend/keep his promise.
2. I wouldn't like people saying (when NaruSaku happens) that they ended up together because Sasuke died. If he dies...

Yet another scenario is that after Sasuke will do something that will lead to his redemption, but will refuse to come back to Konoha (he has tons of reasons to do so).

As far as I remember all Uchihas lived in some kind of internment... in a far corner of the village. While people from other clans had houses, apartments all around Konoha. Uchihas were isolated.

The same way that the yamanaka clan had a shop the Uchiha clan had the police headquarters.

[Akashi]

The same way that the yamanaka clan had a shop the Uchiha clan had the police headquarters.

But owners of the flower shop were Ino and her parents, not entire Yamanaka clan.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

But owners of the flower shop were Ino and her parents, not entire Yamanaka clan.

The entire yamanaka clan were know as flower dealers.
The same way that the Nara clan had it's forest.

[Akashi]

The entire yamanaka clan were know as flower dealers.
The same way that the Nara clan had it's forest.

I don't think that every member of the Yamanaka clan has a flower shop.. just imagine the competition! Since members of the Yamanaka clan are so good with flowers/herbs some could own drug store, cosmetics or perfume shop, etc. And it's not like all of them were located in the same place..... and they lived all around the village, unlike Uchiha.

Edited by Tauriel, 29 March 2013 - 11:15 PM.

[Dkey]

I always assumed that the Uchiha wanted to grab power because even thou they were a founding clan of the village, neither of their clan members were ever considered as Hokages.

Thou let's say that Tobirama wasn't that much of an a**hole and just tried to keep some control, the village and it's culture decided to follows Hashirama's Will of fire and elected ( or whatever they did to appoint a Hokage) that was taught to think and desire the same thing as Hashirama. Third Hokage was Sarutobi clan but a student of the second ( and it also seems he was familiar with the first) and Fourth Hokage wasn't even of any major clan but he inherited everything from Jiraya. Also it seemed like the Uchiha thou a founding clan didn't participate in the administration sector. The Third didn't decreed by himself to exterminate the Uchiha but was also pushed by a an apparent Uchiha free council.

[Inferno180]

Clans for the leaf village all joined under the Senju and Uchiha because of the protection they sought at the start of the village era, many figured it was better to live under them due to their power. Its not hard to imagine they all has some types of role to offer.

Senju for wood style
Uchiha for Sharigan and fire techniques
Sarotobi for many reasons but fire as well
Nara for medicines and shadow manipulation
Yakamana for their mental phasing, mainpulation, and telepathy, they served as spies no suprise with the mind transfer tech
Akamachi for their size shifting power
Aburame for their bugs
Inazuka for their dog and tracking skills
Hygua for the gentle fist and byuakugan
etc, many had powers to offer, Uzumaki was left out because they had their own land but that no longer exists

Its safe to say the more clans a village had, the more power and potential they brought. They also had their own roles for non-combat stuff so its easy to figure they contributed to the new society in many ways by trade skills.

Also yeah the pics are funny.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I don't think that every member of the Yamanaka clan has a flower shop.. just imagine the competition! Since members of the Yamanaka clan are so good with flowers/herbs some could own drug store, cosmetics or perfume shop, etc. And it's not like all of them were located in the same place..... and they lived all around the village, unlike Uchiha.

The village is very large...