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#14101 Codus N

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 10:04 AM

QUOTE (rocci @ Mar 29 2013, 03:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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that's the problem, the moment kishi decide to make obito villain and his motive of evil is rin death, than that moment i think romantic love become serious thing to the point it moving plot(hinata confesion and sakura confension).

now why kishi halt narusaku? to make sure no proper interaction between them and yes it hurt us.

look there is a reason to make obito flasback heavily put on his relationship with rin, and i think the simialrities with narusaku is so hard to not notice.

betul sekali yang ditunda itu hubungan(atau interaksi) mereka karena mirip dengan obirin(kurasa narusaku4g telah menerangkan hal itu) dan itu merusak dinamika ns ditambah dengan mengurangi fokus sakura dan menambah fokus hinata.
ini mengorbankan banyak hal lho. namun jika tebakanku benar dia melakukan hal ini untuk men-tnj obito. jika terjadi sesuatu terhadap sakura maka naruto bisa men-tnj obito karena ada kesamaan diantara mereka yaitu cinta bertepuk sebelah tangan. jadi narusaku secara otomatis menjadi sebuah *apa namanya* kunci untuk sebuah plot.

ini sama seperti identitas pain dan identitas obito. apa bakal dramatis kalau kita tahu identitas mereka sebelum kishi menggambarkan di manga.

tapi yah aku bisa saja salah, namun jika kita menghitung variabel variabel yang ada maka semua akan masuk akal.

and my communication skill is so poor and this is the reason for my depression.


Yeah, I agree that romantic love has become an even more important plot point ever since Obito was revealed. And I do agree that there has to be a reason for all the parallels between Team Minato and Team 7.

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soal tnj, rasanya gak bakal terjadi scr langsung sih... menurutku Kakashi yg bakal melakukannya. Klo km liat prediksiku NS moment berikutnya, menurutku Kakashi bkl sadar klo NS=ObiRin. Aq yakin, dia bkl ngeliat bayangan Rin saat itu terjadi. Trus, itu udah bkl bikin dia bener2 marah, krn Obito sedang melakukan kesalahan yg sama dan jg krn dia menyeret muridnya dlm masalah personal mereka.

Aq rasa dia bkl berusaha nyadarkan Obito bahwa Rin tetap hidup di dlm diri Sakura. Kurang lbh begitulah..

Aq jg ngerti soal contoh Pain ama Obito, ttp rasanya Kishi gak perlu2 amat sejauh itu. Menurutku, pairing yg canon gak se-berbobot identitas Tobi dsb dalam keseluruhan efeknya ama cerita..

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 10:15 AM

Let me just say one thing... ( and I speak like a Narusaku's fan).
Naruto's 2nd part was a Narusaku festival until Sakura's confession... and Naruhina's fans are those who have always believed in the pairing despite Naruto's fellings, the story' s course and lots of evidence... yes.gif
Now is their compensation.

Narusaku's fans instead are hopeless. They want legal guarantee only...

This forum is become sooooo depressing... bash.gif
How sad!! shamefulcry0js.gif
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Posted 29 March 2013 - 10:17 AM

QUOTE (Niky @ Mar 29 2013, 07:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Let me just say one thing... ( and I speak like a Narusaku's fan).
Naruto's 2nd part was a Narusaku festival until Sakura's confession... and Naruhina's fans are those who have always believed in the pairing despite Naruto's fellings, the story' s course and lots of evidence... yes.gif
Now is their compensation.

Narusaku's fans instead are hopeless. They want legal guarantee only...

This forum is become sooooo depressing... bash.gif
How sad!! shamefulcry0js.gif

Did you read the rant they did here, they twisted almost every moment on the manga and claimed that Naruto has moved on from Sakura since the promise.
The difference is that we dont twist the moment but i do agree the overreacting is depressing yesterday we just suffered from a raid of NH fans.
We have at least 5-6 here now and i'm looking for a script.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 29 March 2013 - 10:19 AM.

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#14104 Niky

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 10:26 AM

The difference is that we dont twist the moment but i do agree the overreacting is depressing yesterday we just suffered from a raid of NH fans.
We have at least 5-6 here now and i'm looking for a script.


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Out of curiosity...
At the time of Narusaku festival in the manga, did the Narusaku's fans log in the Naruhina and Sasusaku forums for a raid ?
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Posted 29 March 2013 - 10:47 AM

Hey, do you guys think that Naruto will talk-no-jutsu Obito and find out why he became who ho he is right now?

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 10:55 AM

QUOTE (Tauriel @ Mar 29 2013, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey, do you guys think that Naruto will talk-no-jutsu Obito and find out why he became who ho he is right now?


yes absolutely and it will be join effort with kakashi and maybe minato

but the one who start it must be naruto.

and the key to make tnj work is sakura.

just like neji with his curse seal cage(naruto jinchuruki mark)
garaa : monster inside me(naruto monster)
sasuke : i am your brother
sai : i have a brother
nagato : book( write by jiraiya who is nagato and naruto teacher who will found the choosen one )

all tnj have key aspect for naruto to connect with them.
and he never give up

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 11:02 AM

QUOTE (rocci @ Mar 29 2013, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yes absolutely and it will be join effort with kakashi and maybe minato

but the one who start it must be naruto.

and the key to make tnj work is sakura.

just like neji with his curse seal cage(naruto jinchuruki mark)
garaa : monster inside me(naruto monster)
sasuke : i am your brother
sai : i have a brother
nagato : book( write by jiraiya who is nagato and naruto teacher who will found the choosen one )

all tnj have key aspect for naruto to connect with them.
and he never give up

He could also try to avenge Rin and as a consequence hurt Sakura. The only thing that's bothering me is that Hinata got so close to Naruto in the last chapters, that Obito might think that she's the girl closest to Naruto.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 11:04 AM

QUOTE (Tauriel @ Mar 29 2013, 08:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He could also try to avenge Rin and as a consequence hurt Sakura. The only thing that's bothering me is that Hinata got so close to Naruto in the last chapters, that Obito might think that she's the girl closest to Naruto.

I dont know why he would seek revenge if he said he doesnt care about the world anymore, unless he got desperate that his plan would fail and tries to take Kakashi with him.
But i doubt he would try to do it since Hashirama, Tobirama, Sandaime and even Minato will be there.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 11:06 AM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Mar 29 2013, 01:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I dont know why he would seek revenge if he said he doesnt care about Rin anymore, unless he got desperate that his plan would fail and tries to take Kakashi with him.
But i doubt he would try to do it since Hashirama, Tobirama, Sandaime and even Minato will be there.

Yeah that makes sense.
I have a feeling that we might even lose some more important characters.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 11:08 AM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Mar 29 2013, 06:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I dont know why he would seek revenge if he said he doesnt care about the world anymore, unless he got desperate that his plan would fail and tries to take Kakashi with him.
But i doubt he would try to do it since Hashirama, Tobirama, Sandaime and even Minato will be there.


i think they will come after heal kage come to rescue and corner obito

those hokage will come to fight madara, after obito death or tnj.

and that's my prediction

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 11:11 AM

QUOTE (Tauriel @ Mar 29 2013, 02:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey, do you guys think that Naruto will talk-no-jutsu Obito and find out why he became who ho he is right now?

It's very probable since Naruto always use it with his foes and enemies. Plus, I think that Kakashi will talk-no-jutsu to Obito too if Naruto did it, since Kakashi is part of Obito's story and an old friend.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 11:13 AM

I know it's just some crazy fangirl dreams, but I want something like this:
Minato meets Sakura, he realizes that she's Naruto's love.. blah-blah-blah... then when time comes for him to return to the world of dead he'll say something: "I'm glad that you chose someone like your mom..." or something like this. ohboy.png

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QUOTE (T XD @ Mar 29 2013, 01:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's very probable since Naruto always use it with his foes and enemies. Plus, I think that Kakashi will talk-no-jutsu to Obito too if Naruto did it, since Kakashi is part of Obito's story and an old friend.

I guess he'll then die in peace, maybe taking Kakashi with him... and team Minato will reunite in the other world. But meh..

Edited by Tauriel, 29 March 2013 - 11:15 AM.


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Posted 29 March 2013 - 11:18 AM

I'm just cioming in mind those words from Kishim around the period of RTN promotion. He said that everyone will shine on the battle... LOL NejiƬ's fans surely didn't appreciate this shining moment... it's looks like Kishimoto trolled them...

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 11:21 AM

QUOTE (rocci @ Mar 29 2013, 05:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yes absolutely and it will be join effort with kakashi and maybe minato

but the one who start it must be naruto.

and the key to make tnj work is sakura.

just like neji with his curse seal cage(naruto jinchuruki mark)
garaa : monster inside me(naruto monster)
sasuke : i am your brother
sai : i have a brother
nagato : book( write by jiraiya who is nagato and naruto teacher who will found the choosen one )

all tnj have key aspect for naruto to connect with them.
and he never give up


For this TnJ, I'd like Sakura to take an active role in it, unlike the previous TnJs before.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 11:23 AM

QUOTE (Tauriel @ Mar 29 2013, 03:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I guess he'll then die in peace, maybe taking Kakashi with him... and team Minato will reunite in the other world. But meh..

I don't think that Kakashi will die since he had this experience in Pain arc.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 11:29 AM

QUOTE (T XD @ Mar 29 2013, 01:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't think that Kakashi will die since he had this experience in Pain arc.

Well knowing Kishi that troll..... anything could happen.

...besides we still need to see that precious face of his. hm.png

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 11:33 AM

Is Obito going to be redeemed? Maybe. If he does then he should live unless he gives his life for something necessary or if he's already dying.

that said there are several different situations that could happen.

Obito gets redeemed and pulls a Nagato, giving his life to revive everyone.
Obito takes a severe hit and is bleeding out, in his last moments he realizes his mistake and says some words of wisdom, dying happily.
Obito realizes his mistakes and turns on Madara, then lives the rest of his life happily.
Obito is killed without redemption
Madara betrays Obito and kills him
Obito gives his life to fully revive Madara


there's probobly a few different situations that could occour but I think that's most of the posible outcomes

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 11:37 AM

You kniow ... I have come to understand that everything that Kishimoto does is often something random, has a clear objective and rather in a foreshadowing way. For example, in the famous chapter 573 where all the rookies offer their mental support towards Naruto, the only one who doesn't appear is Neji. At that time I remember very well that almost everyone was surprised at his absence going to think that Kishimoto had completely forgotten about him and didn't care anymore for the poor character, focusing so completely on the goddess Hinata. Well, now we know why he did this, he just saved Neji's (last) moments for later.

Another example... Remember the panic after chapter 615 around later december? After taht, there was been a long break and we knew that the next chapter (615) would have some colour pagers. The idea of a colour panel about the infamous handholding NH was struggling us a lot. Instead, surprise surprise... Kishi didn't draw that handholding in colours and he's just preferred to draw a cover reagarding Naruto-Sasuke-Sakura and again Sasuke in Konoha. Why he did just ignore to colour that handholding? Because he had in mind that the handholding would be on the volume cover (you know, you can have more visibility in this way).

I came in my mind that Kishomoto said that all foreshadowing things he left in the manga will have sense in future. This show that he isn't just a mangaka who makes some random hints. He has some purposes for them. That panel from Sakura in 616 is something of suspect. I don't suggest that Sakura just showed jealousy but maybe a sort of feelings of discomfort and surprise regarding for Hinata's speech to Naruto.

So better that we would sit down here and let see where is going Kishimoto... Or at least I'm inquiring about it although I'm a bit apprehensive

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 11:57 AM

QUOTE (Tauriel @ Mar 28 2013, 09:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Since today's Sakura's birthday, and we haven't seen her since chapter 615 I thought I'd post her data form the 3rd databook.
The data is kinda old considering it was published in September 2008.... Anyway, it's a fun and interesting read. tongue.gif
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And this, my friends, is why sakura is the heroine, lover of naruto and the one who will surpass tsunade!

Happy birthday! (Better late then never)

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 11:58 AM

QUOTE (Branden @ Mar 29 2013, 08:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is Obito going to be redeemed? Maybe. If he does then he should live unless he gives his life for something necessary or if he's already dying.

that said there are several different situations that could happen.

Obito gets redeemed and pulls a Nagato, giving his life to revive everyone.
Obito takes a severe hit and is bleeding out, in his last moments he realizes his mistake and says some words of wisdom, dying happily.
Obito realizes his mistakes and turns on Madara, then lives the rest of his life happily.
Obito is killed without redemption
Madara betrays Obito and kills him
Obito gives his life to fully revive Madara


there's probobly a few different situations that could occour but I think that's most of the posible outcomes

Obito will be redeemed and i dont think he will give his life to revive Madara, about Madara he will be also redeemed he was a good character until the flashbacks come out, and showed how ridiculous his character is, that's why i dont care about them, actually i dont care about Madara, Obito and Sasuke, aside from Itachi and Shishui all the rest of the Uchihas are simply ridiculous.
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