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[rocci]

our situation remind me with who is tobi identity.

the moment tobi show up people say it is obito base on many evidence.
it didn't confirm nor deny until he proclaim he is madara who got coincidence with pain move to konoha, which at that time is another mysteri.
and than all character say he is madara, itachi say it and minato say it. two genius. but the quetion is if he is obito than
why he still use his mask? what is he hiding for?

i always saw pattern in this manga(the same thing with other manga like onepiece, bleach, and fairy tail). naruto follow it. and i begin suspicious with sudden rommance gallore from this manga.

like hinata confension, sakura confension, naruto ask his parent love life, and the last one obito and rin.

i ask quetion to naruhina fan, why you don't include obirin. obirin is basically carbon copy to narusaku. and obito not yet tnj, while his motivation is clear pure rommance.

i could be wrong. it could be naruto tnj obito with he talk he love hinata and he gave up on sakura. i know there is possibilities like that. but why now? where is naruto feeling? why kishi not address it? why don't he make a sign that he move on from sakura in her confenssion when she ask "if you don't love my just said so" but he skip and he skip about her mother advice about girl. why no narusaku interaction in an arc who has flashback about their clone?

it's too suspicious, that's why i will wait until naruto tnj obito about who is naruto's rin. sakura or hinata.

[Qia]

What about are you talking?

About the cover, Probably the Shueisha just cut off those pink things in order to show better the handholding....

This:

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unless that was like...sarcasm? xD

Edited by Qia, 29 March 2013 - 03:18 AM.

[Shadow1275]

our situation remind me with who is tobi identity.

the moment tobi show up people say it is obito base on many evidence.
it didn't confirm nor deny until he proclaim he is madara who got coincidence with pain move to konoha, which at that time is another mysteri.
and than all character say he is madara, itachi say it and minato say it. two genius. but the quetion is if he is obito than
why he still use his mask? what is he hiding for?

i always saw pattern in this manga(the same thing with other manga like onepiece, bleach, and fairy tail). naruto follow it. and i begin suspicious with sudden rommance gallore from this manga.

like hinata confension, sakura confension, naruto ask his parent love life, and the last one obito and rin.

i ask quetion to naruhina fan, why you don't include obirin. obirin is basically carbon copy to narusaku. and obito not yet tnj, while his motivation is clear pure rommance.

i could be wrong. it could be naruto tnj obito with he talk he love hinata and he gave up on sakura. i know there is possibilities like that. but why now? where is naruto feeling? why kishi not address it? why don't he make a sign that he move on from sakura in her confenssion when she ask "if you don't love my just said so" but he skip and he skip about her mother advice about girl. why no narusaku interaction in an arc who has flashback about their clone?

it's too suspicious, that's why i will wait until naruto tnj obito about who is naruto's rin. sakura or hinata.

You make a great point as Kishimoto loves to show comparisons between past and present characters. We can only work with what we know and we know that Naruto cares very deeply for Sakura. We also know that Sakura cares for Naruto though her feelings have still not been explicitly stated. Finally, Naruto after two of the biggest Hinata moments has not confessed that he loves her back. Don't forget that Hinata was ignored from her fight with Neji to the pain arc so she was due for her facetime. Sakura's turn is coming up.

[sushi.]

This:

here --Click here to view--

unless that was like...sarcasm? xD

It looks like these new feelings are pointed towards Sai.

[rocci]

It looks like these new feelings are pointed towards Sai.

i think it's new comrade

[TouKen4Life3g]

You got that right. I can't wait for the flashback to end even though it was a good flashback. The main point here is that Naruto has declared to Sai that he loves Sakura, but he also said that he won't be with her until he handles Sasuke. I think people are blowing this hand holding way out of proportion. Irregardless, if Naruto and Sasuke fight, is Sakura going to side with the guy that killed her or is she going to side with the guy who has put her feelings above his own. For those of you who haven't read my earlier thread. Kishimoto said that he was portraying Sakura as an honest and stubborn woman when he was writing the confession. During the confession, neither Sakura nor Naruto denies the fact that one loves the other. Naruto as evidenced by Sai's flashback wants to handle Sasuke before he considers settling down with Sakura. Meanwhile, Sakura is struggling with her feelings for Naruto and Sasuke. After the man asks her about whether she would accept the love letter, when she denies him she says that the one you love must be a GOOD man. Sakura's expression is not a happy one. To me it seems like she has accepted the fact that Sasuke will never change and is starting to reconsider her feelings. Bottom line is Sakura is guaranteed more development time because when Naruto and Sasuke fight, there is no way that she can just sit back and watch. This is when she will have to make her feelings clear, and I'd put my money on our boy in Orange any day!

Well said. Glad to have you here. You should check out the podcast that we are making.

About popularity, yes, NaruSaku is popular than NaruHina. In fact, NejiHina is more popular than NaruHina. Granted, SasuSaku is popular than NaruSaku, though the movie sure got them awe with NaruSaku. So that's nice to hear.

If SasuSaku happens, I may burn Kishimoto in effigy along with all the manga volumes I have bought so far. Does Kishi take the opinions from his home country, or does he just ignore them and write his own manga?

Well, I already bet that all the stuff related to it will be out of my home. I will put it on my sig later.

our situation remind me with who is tobi identity.

the moment tobi show up people say it is obito base on many evidence.
it didn't confirm nor deny until he proclaim he is madara who got coincidence with pain move to konoha, which at that time is another mysteri.
and than all character say he is madara, itachi say it and minato say it. two genius. but the quetion is if he is obito than
why he still use his mask? what is he hiding for?

i always saw pattern in this manga(the same thing with other manga like onepiece, bleach, and fairy tail). naruto follow it. and i begin suspicious with sudden rommance gallore from this manga.

like hinata confension, sakura confension, naruto ask his parent love life, and the last one obito and rin.

i ask quetion to naruhina fan, why you don't include obirin. obirin is basically carbon copy to narusaku. and obito not yet tnj, while his motivation is clear pure rommance.

i could be wrong. it could be naruto tnj obito with he talk he love hinata and he gave up on sakura. i know there is possibilities like that. but why now? where is naruto feeling? why kishi not address it? why don't he make a sign that he move on from sakura in her confenssion when she ask "if you don't love my just said so" but he skip and he skip about her mother advice about girl. why no narusaku interaction in an arc who has flashback about their clone?

it's too suspicious, that's why i will wait until naruto tnj obito about who is naruto's rin. sakura or hinata.

As biased you may think it sound, but Hinata being Rin will be extremely force, that I can actually for once in my manga career to say, "trash". Again, the parallel is not just the personalities of the past, but rather, the background of the characters. All of them must make sense to each other and NaruSaku really connects to all of them without making it look off. No joke. Recap it for all you want, it keeps going back to NaruSaku.

This:

here --Click here to view--

unless that was like...sarcasm? xD

I knew it. There's a "?" which means it is pending answer. Time will come.

It looks like these new feelings are pointed towards Sai.

Is that a joke? Look at the order...

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 29 March 2013 - 03:28 AM.

[redragon88]

From what I hear, NaruHina is by far the least popular of the Big 3 in Japan, with NaruSaku in the middle and SasuSaku somehow still on top

I'm pretty sure that list wasn't official, and most important of all the most popular pairing on that list is Kakashi/Iruka.

I refuse to take that list seriously.

[TouKen4Life3g]

i think it's new comrade

It is. Look at the title and then read it down. You already know what's the title talking about. Not only that, but why do we need to know Naruto and her in that section since they're already friends.

[Derock]

I'm pretty sure that list wasn't official, and most important of all the most popular pairing on that list is Kakashi/Iruka.

I refuse to take that list seriously.

You should because there are TONS and TONS of fans that love Kakashi/Iruka. Hell, that pairing got tons of yaoi-doujins galore. Question the reason why Iruka is always in the top 5 in the popularity polls, despite his appearances lately.

[rocci]

As biased you may think it sound, but Hinata being Rin will be extremely force, that I can actually for once in my manga career to say, "trash". Again, the parallel is not just the personalities of the past, but rather, the background of the characters. All of them must make sense to each other and NaruSaku really connects to all of them without making it look off. No joke. Recap it for all you want, it keeps going back to NaruSaku.

no it is not bias, it's a fact when you compare hinata and rin there is nothing to compare because they are no parallel.
hinata is not medic, who love the genius, who loved by the fool, at in the same team with them. no someone else has it.

and if kishi indeed make it happen(hinata=rin) or make naruto say to obito "you don't have hinata" kind of thing.
than i will drop this manga right away and pretend that i am never become this manga fan.

because the only thing that make me attached to this manga is battle and pairing. to read a downhill manga like this?
sorry

Edited by rocci, 29 March 2013 - 03:36 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

no it is not bias, it's a fact when you compare hinata and rin there is nothing to compare because they are no parallel.
hinata is not medic, who love the genius, who loved by the fool, at in the same team with them. no someone else has it.

and if kishi indeed make it happen(hinata=rin) or make naruto say to obito "you don't have hinata" kind of thing.
than i will drop this manga right away and pretend that i am never become this manga fan.

because the only thing that make me attached to this manga is battle and pairing. to read a downhill manga like this?
sorry

I'll be behind you. It's not just the pairing will come forced but the story is completely unreliable to believe anything. It's as if it's the old days wrestling, where they make an understandable story until they pull a random twist that makes everything pointless. I don't tolerate crap here.

[Shadow1275]

It is. Look at the title and then read it down. You already know what's the title talking about. Not only that, but why do we need to know Naruto and her in that section since they're already friends.

Agreed. Friendship is a much easier feeling to understand than love. If they were only going to be close friends than there would be no reason to put her feelings are unclear in the databook. Plus, why would Kishimoto give a whole panel to show Sakura's reaction to Hinata touching Naruto's face where she does not look happy? Than when Sakura hugs Naruto Hinata is smiling after he beat pain. Hinata's love seems more like hero-worship to me especially if you look at her speech in 615. Hopefully RTN puts a dent in the SasuxSaku fanbase.

Edited by Shadow1275, 29 March 2013 - 03:42 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Friendship is a much easier feeling to understand than love. If they were only going to be close friends than there would be no reason to put her feelings are unclear in the databook. Plus, why would Kishimoto give a whole panel to show Sakura's reaction to Hinata touching Naruto's face where she does not look happy? Than when Sakura hugs Naruto Hinata is smiling after he beat pain. Hinata's love seems more like hero-worship to me especially if you look at her speech in 615. Hopefully RTN puts a dent in the SasuxSaku fanbase.

Exactly.

While I won't argue 615 until I see more evidences, I could say about the past one with her healing Hinata. Hinata's love is more like hero-worship and by god, that shouldn't be real love, but of a inspiration. Funny that SD did make him like that at one scene. I think they know the deal. Nevertheless, it's matter of time when we will learn if Kishi has said "Bye my own creation" or "Finally, my master plan is on work."

[rocci]

I'll be behind you. It's not just the pairing will come forced but the story is completely unreliable to believe anything. It's as if it's the old days wrestling, where they make an understandable story until they pull a random twist that makes everything pointless. I don't tolerate crap here.

agree i know some member of this forum frustation especially sakura fan.

but let me tell you something as naruto(character)fan. if sakura role has been took by hinata than naruto hero status has been quetion by fandom even until now.

i ask you how many big fight naruto do in part two compare to sasuke. my answer is just one and that is again nerf pain.
while sasuke get his epic deidara fight, epic itachi fight, epic kage raid, epic danzou fight, and epic kabuto fight.

now i will tell what i call this. this is madness kishi treatment when you are the heroine and hero and you don't have magic eye you will get sidelined so the other character can shine BRIGHTLY.

so narusaku fan let us wait what will happen. i have no regret to love this pairing and nothing to lose this war.

edit: oh i forgot to include killer bee fight, wow what golden boy.

Edited by rocci, 29 March 2013 - 03:51 AM.

[Shadow1275]

Exactly.

While I won't argue 615 until I see more evidences, I could say about the past one with her healing Hinata. Hinata's love is more like hero-worship and by god, that shouldn't be real love, but of a inspiration. Funny that SD did make him like that at one scene. I think they know the deal. Nevertheless, it's matter of time when we will learn if Kishi has said "Bye my own creation" or "Finally, my master plan is on work."

True, All we can do is hope for the best. Personally, I think that Sakura definitely has the best chance but we'll see what happens. If Kishimoto decides to push the big red button than we will still have RTN.

[Inferno180]

It should not matter how many fans of any pairing exist, Kishi still did narusaku despite sasusaku being bigger. Again he should not let any fan base have any sway over him, he should choose what he feels is best as an artist and storyteller.

Hopefully this is just a slow time we will come out of, road to ninja is good but it's the appetizer for more interaction between naruto and sakura.

Hopefully this will all be a memory someday, in my opinion, we should not be fussing over the lack of moments when we know they will come in the future and right now in the manga, enjoy the history of hashirama and Madara, they were important for the lore but thanks to plot device no jutsu we can at least learn more about them.

There is a lot of hope for narusaku, no suprise if Kishi kept it away this long. But hey, it's a long battle with the ten tails, it's not the final, more has to come. The Kages aren't going to be lying down forever, Yamato has to be saved too. This is a big battle but the story is far from over, I have faith in narusaku and still stand by my prediction that the current battle will end when the true form of the ten tails emerges, they even called it a larval stage, larva have to go into a suspended state to mature, the ten tails should do this too. The madara just trolls everyone, he can make an army of sussano or call that big one and do it effortlessly as an edo zombie for now. Not hard to imagine this causing a retreat for the alliance so they cannot do anything to the ten tails or obito as it matures. (Actually if they kill obito now, the world is doomed, no one else can stop the ten tails if it becomes unbound, this is quite the pickle for everyone)

Yeah there is a lot for narusaku, one reason we like it, as their relationship is concerned from high and low good and bad, they endure. Our fandom does as well, narusaku will come again, nothing is said and done until later on. There are many more events to come, it's not game over yet, there is a lot of room left for the possibility of it happening.

[Shadow1275]

It should not matter how many fans of any pairing exist, Kishi still did narusaku despite sasusaku being bigger. Again he should not let any fan base have any sway over him, he should choose what he feels is best as an artist and storyteller.

Hopefully this is just a slow time we will come out of, road to ninja is good but it's the appetizer for more interaction between naruto and sakura.

Hopefully this will all be a memory someday, in my opinion, we should not be fussing over the lack of moments when we know they will come in the future and right now in the manga, enjoy the history of hashirama and Madara, they were important for the lore but thanks to plot device no jutsu we can at least learn more about them.

There is a lot of hope for narusaku, no suprise if Kishi kept it away this long. But hey, it's a long battle with the ten tails, it's not the final, more has to come. The Kages aren't going to be lying down forever, Yamato has to be saved too. This is a big battle but the story is far from over, I have faith in narusaku and still stand by my prediction that the current battle will end when the true form of the ten tails emerges, they even called it a larval stage, larva have to go into a suspended state to mature, the ten tails should do this too. The madara just trolls everyone, he can make an army of sussano or call that big one and do it effortlessly as an edo zombie for now. Not hard to imagine this causing a retreat for the alliance so they cannot do anything to the ten tails or obito as it matures. (Actually if they kill obito now, the world is doomed, no one else can stop the ten tails if it becomes unbound, this is quite the pickle for everyone)

Yeah there is a lot for narusaku, one reason we like it, as their relationship is concerned from high and low good and bad, they endure. Our fandom does as well, narusaku will come again, nothing is said and done until later on. There are many more events to come, it's not game over yet, there is a lot of room left for the possibility of it happening.

Plus I think that Kishimoto did RTN with more NaruxSaku in order to test the waters for a future big NaruxSaku or even just a Sakura chapter. Seems like it worked out well.

[redragon88]

You should because there are TONS and TONS of fans that love Kakashi/Iruka. Hell, that pairing got tons of yaoi-doujins galore. Question the reason why Iruka is always in the top 5 in the popularity polls, despite his appearances lately.

So tons and tons of middle school boys love the potential yaoi relationship between Kakashi and Iruka?

To me it seems that only a select few of the entire Naruto readership were able to vote in that poll, and even still it's not official anyway as far as I know.

[Inferno180]

Plus I think that Kishimoto did RTN with more NaruxSaku in order to test the waters for a future big NaruxSaku or even just a Sakura chapter. Seems like it worked out well.

Well the focus was mainly naruto and his parents, but he chose naruto and Sakura's as secondary, this movie did prove they have the right basis for a close friendship to be able to become something more. Not to mention if this was the most emotional movie, it's hard to imagine him just shafting this, it's like he goes all crazy and pushes the self destruct button in his office blowing up all his storyboards and replaces it with naruhina fanfiction using copy and paste operations for the rest of the series.

[TouKen4Life3g]

agree i know some member of this forum frustation especially sakura fan.

but let me tell you something as naruto(character)fan. if sakura role has been took by hinata than naruto hero status has been quetion by fandom even until now.

i ask you how many big fight naruto do in part two compare to sasuke. my answer is just one and that is again nerf pain.
while sasuke get his epic deidara fight, epic itachi fight, epic kage raid, epic danzou fight, and epic kabuto fight.

now i will tell what i call this. this is madness kishi treatment when you are the heroine and hero and you don't have magic eye you will get sidelined so the other character can shine BRIGHTLY.

so narusaku fan let us wait what will happen. i have no regret to love this pairing and nothing to lose this war.

edit: oh i forgot to include killer bee fight, wow what golden boy.

Well Naruto does have few others battle, including Kyuubi and some others, I understand what you mean, but I don't really think too much of it. Plus when he fights, it's always fun to watch, especially if the next battle phase is really 1v1 or whatever it is, it will be good. As a Sakura fan, well, I will wait until this battle is over to make my final judgment on how should I feel. Anyway, Naruto is my favorite character, so I hope the consistency is on his side.