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Posted 29 March 2013 - 02:08 AM

QUOTE (swagosaurus @ Mar 28 2013, 09:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I tried, guys. :<

I just want to get past this 615 bs and the flashbacks ASAP. we need some NaruSaku moments, man.


Don't worry, well will get more than a fair share of moments. Just relax, sit back, and enjoy the manga.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 02:09 AM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Mar 29 2013, 03:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What we need is Chapter 20... pictureem0.gif


We need that aliens guys bring us back our real kishimoto instead of their replace... X-files, move!

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 02:11 AM

QUOTE (swagosaurus @ Mar 28 2013, 10:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I tried, guys. :<

I just want to get past this 615 bs and the flashbacks ASAP. we need some NaruSaku moments, man.

Don't worry. Once this volume ends, the next volume will be do or die, and that's when you start seeing the clearer picture. Early impression is not the final impression.

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Mar 28 2013, 10:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What about are you talking?

About the cover, Probably the Shueisha just cut off those pink things in order to show better the handholding....

He/she's talking about the title of Sakura's datebook profile, which btw also has a "?" after "a new feelings".

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 02:11 AM

Hey if anything we still need to see where the story goes, NaruSaku has the development, pacing, and consistency of the story. We also have the logic, structure, and design of the story on our side. NaruSaku does not damage the story remember, its practically the best way for team 7s story to end. We need to wait till flashback mania is over and see where we go. Sakura should get some time soon, maybe she is in the same place as Sai? We have time on our side, there are still more than 100 chapters left to go before it could feel like everything is resolved. The current fight is not the final if Sasuke has not come yet, Sasuke needs to have something done beyond fighting Naruto, there is at least one fight beyond Naruto vs Sasuke, until then its still too early to call anything over, especially if that moment was very short and the cover is just the climax, I mean when that one comes to the states obviously it will sell like wildfire but watch as its lower in japan...

There is a lot of hope, reasoning, and possibility for NaruSaku to happen, it can and there will be interaction again between them. What exactly happens and how is unknown but it will be big, this is why its too early to call. Maybe we will get our answer around the time the Naruto vs Sasuke fight comes, until then all we can do is predict, but there are still things around giving us hope.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 02:11 AM

QUOTE (Qia @ Mar 29 2013, 02:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know this is kinda late since it's onto a different topic, but I love how it clearly states in the databook: "A new teacher, a new comrade...and new feelings" as the title, yet you still have some people (won't say who) doubting that she has feelings for Naruto. dry.gif Reallll interesting.

Agreed, there is just too much evidence against NaruxHina. First off, when it comes to the "confession" in an interview with Kishimoto he said that when he was writing it he was trying to portray a stubborn and honest woman. Not too mention that in every single movie he has written or been involved in Naruto has always ended up with Sakura. Finally, if you look at 615, Hinata's speech does not make Naruto get over Neji. It is only after the Nine-tailed fox speaks to Naruto that he begins to feel better. That added with the fact that he doesn't show any sort of reciprocated feelings means there is no reason to worry about this cover. It is only a Hinata moment. Not a Naru/Hina moment.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 02:15 AM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Mar 28 2013, 11:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
they probably just wanted to show the hands. smile.gif


yeah you're right! they must have edited the logo for the drawing appears entirely, if they hadn't edited the logo, their hands wouldn't have appeared and would have been a waste of time to have drawn it. They never edited other logos because it was probably never necessary.

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I just need a NS moment in the manga .. please Kishi! arg.gif

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 02:17 AM

QUOTE (Tsubaki @ Mar 29 2013, 03:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yeah you're right! they must have edited the logo for the drawing appears entirely, if they hadn't edited the logo, their hands wouldn't have appeared and would have been a waste of time to have drawn it. They never edited other logos because it was probably never necessary.

I'm ashamed to my faith has been shaken so easily! sleep.gif

I just need a NS moment in the manga .. please Kishi! arg.gif



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Posted 29 March 2013 - 02:20 AM

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Agreed, there is just too much evidence against NaruxHina. First off, when it comes to the "confession" in an interview with Kishimoto he said that when he was writing it he was trying to portray a stubborn and honest woman. Not too mention that in every single movie he has written or been involved in Naruto has always ended up with Sakura. Finally, if you look at 615, Hinata's speech does not make Naruto get over Neji. It is only after the Nine-tailed fox speaks to Naruto that he begins to feel better. That added with the fact that he doesn't show any sort of reciprocated feelings means there is no reason to worry about this cover. It is only a Hinata moment. Not a Naru/Hina moment.

Well yeah. The one that's still skeptical is just waiting for Sakura to show up and/or NS moment to happen. The whole 615 can be a pro-NS or anti-NS, believe or not. The problem is that the follow-up didn't really show the impact of both side of pov, so I can't buy the whole thing. Not to mention the volume happened to be focusing on friendships, which begs the question: did Hinata officially got friendzoned? We don't know 100% but to me, it's starting to look that way. Nevertheless, the volume focused on Juubi, but it's not the final part of the battle. The next one will be important, because Obito and Madara will be in combat. As for Sasuke, that has to wait for now, though if he does join, I always assume after Obito's death.

One thing for sure is that after that battle, there will be a break because there's too much to cover and a rest, especially for Naruto, will be coming. If Sasuke wants to defeat Naruto to make him happy, he most likely wants Naruto to be at his best to prove him, which is not even far fetched. Anyway, my point is that the next set is do or die, and everything will change us forever. Unless there's more flashback! tongue.gif

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 02:33 AM

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 02:34 AM

QUOTE (Branden @ Mar 28 2013, 09:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
21 users are currently reading this topic? wow did I miss something important recently?


Yep, big NaruHina arguement happened on a different thread

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 02:34 AM

QUOTE (Branden @ Mar 28 2013, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
21 users are currently reading this topic? wow did I miss something important recently?

Well, we had an NaruHina fan invading here and pretty much causing a stir.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 02:38 AM

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 02:41 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 29 2013, 02:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well yeah. The one that's still skeptical is just waiting for Sakura to show up and/or NS moment to happen. The whole 615 can be a pro-NS or anti-NS, believe or not. The problem is that the follow-up didn't really show the impact of both side of pov, so I can't buy the whole thing. Not to mention the volume happened to be focusing on friendships, which begs the question: did Hinata officially got friendzoned? We don't know 100% but to me, it's starting to look that way. Nevertheless, the volume focused on Juubi, but it's not the final part of the battle. The next one will be important, because Obito and Madara will be in combat. As for Sasuke, that has to wait for now, though if he does join, I always assume after Obito's death.

One thing for sure is that after that battle, there will be a break because there's too much to cover and a rest, especially for Naruto, will be coming. If Sasuke wants to defeat Naruto to make him happy, he most likely wants Naruto to be at his best to prove him, which is not even far fetched. Anyway, my point is that the next set is do or die, and everything will change us forever. Unless there's more flashback! tongue.gif

You got that right. I can't wait for the flashback to end even though it was a good flashback. The main point here is that Naruto has declared to Sai that he loves Sakura, but he also said that he won't be with her until he handles Sasuke. I think people are blowing this hand holding way out of proportion. Irregardless, if Naruto and Sasuke fight, is Sakura going to side with the guy that killed her or is she going to side with the guy who has put her feelings above his own. For those of you who haven't read my earlier thread. Kishimoto said that he was portraying Sakura as an honest and stubborn woman when he was writing the confession. During the confession, neither Sakura nor Naruto denies the fact that one loves the other. Naruto as evidenced by Sai's flashback wants to handle Sasuke before he considers settling down with Sakura. Meanwhile, Sakura is struggling with her feelings for Naruto and Sasuke. After the man asks her about whether she would accept the love letter, when she denies him she says that the one you love must be a GOOD man. Sakura's expression is not a happy one. To me it seems like she has accepted the fact that Sasuke will never change and is starting to reconsider her feelings. Bottom line is Sakura is guaranteed more development time because when Naruto and Sasuke fight, there is no way that she can just sit back and watch. This is when she will have to make her feelings clear, and I'd put my money on our boy in Orange any day!

Edited by Shadow1275, 29 March 2013 - 02:41 AM.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 02:43 AM

I dont feel threatened, we know the moment and how short it was, Sakura cannot be cut out of the picture, its what all of us are acting like.

Heres what I recommend: Don't worry about anything till the flashback with Hashirama ends and the focus shifts away from Sasuke and company, until we get back to the ten tails fight or go elsewhere to like the kages or Sakura and Sai's current location, we have nothing and no way to predict anything otherwise, there has not been anything new to add yet so its static on both fronts for now, nothing more to attribute

Plus imagine this: What if one future cover a few collection of chapters later has this: Sakura in the middle with Naruto and Sasuke at each side starring at each other as if they were ready to fight? Something with team 7 near the climax? Its possibile.

It means nothing for now, we know it, the scene was important but that's the climax of the volume, if kishi goes that route though, thats bad writing and he sadly reduced the story to fanservice and gimped Naruto and Sakuras development to nothing more than mere friendship. The most developed relationship is nothing but friendship.

There is still a lot of hope for NaruSaku, just remember RtN is not canon, but kishi did make it and this was basically the best way to show their relationship and its proof that it could become something more, even in the manga. This movie proved Naruto and Sakura have the foundation for a better relation, kishi just needs to show us if he goes the developed NS route or takes the shorter barely touched NH route.

With Kishi, he is unpredictable but hopefully he has enough respect for his own story dependent on the events he did, otherwise if he goes NH for any reason, well thats sad. We should be happy we have RtN, I have not seen it but people are highly praising it epsically for the interaction between Naruto and Sakura, it would be hard to imagine it not happening after they saw this, this is the friendship they have and it can become more, if kishi made a movie with this reducing his editors and audiences to tears, it would be somewhat scary if he just ignored this emotion just to put NH as canon, that would be insane.

I have faith in NS, its a cover, next one will be Hashirama, Madara, and Sasuke most likely, lets be patient a bit longer, remember the past 3 years have not been the best, the war shifted the focus to many people, last year was mostly fighting, we just suffered the end of last year with 615 for an epic two way troll moment only to find out it was a complete fake out, NH is still not confirmed, it would be hard to imagine Naruto's feelings changing from Sakura in an instant, hard to imagine him even giving up on her and just moving on. There is so much for NaruSaku still being around even in 615 with that lone panel, we dont know what it meant yet! There is still time, maybe its just best to break from this fourm for a while and come back once we see Sakura again and she gets some chain of events leading somewhere before she reunites with Naruto for more interaction, its not the end, I can still see this chapter going at least 120 chapters, there is a lot to finish and a lot more to come, so relax and take satisfaction in this, we have the most developed and longest lasting and realistic pairing, built off so much and so many events, have faith in it continuing, I sure do, I could not imagine it just vanishing or stopping for nothing.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 02:47 AM

Are there more NaruSaku or Naru Hina supporters in Japan? I read somewhere that there were more NaruxSaku fans in Japan which is good but I wanna be sure?

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 02:52 AM

QUOTE (Shadow1275 @ Mar 28 2013, 07:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are there more NaruSaku or Naru Hina supporters in Japan? I read somewhere that there were more NaruxSaku fans in Japan which is good but I wanna be sure?

From what I hear, NaruHina is by far the least popular of the Big 3 in Japan, with NaruSaku in the middle and SasuSaku somehow still on top dry.gif

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 02:58 AM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Mar 29 2013, 02:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
From what I hear, NaruHina is by far the least popular of the Big 3 in Japan, with NaruSaku in the middle and SasuSaku somehow still on top dry.gif

Haha thanks. As for SasukexSakura HHOOOWWWW? It doesn't make sense considering he ignored her completely in part 1 and he tried to kill her and Arrrgghhh. My head hurts facepalm.png

Edited by Shadow1275, 29 March 2013 - 03:00 AM.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 03:04 AM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Mar 28 2013, 09:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
From what I hear, NaruHina is by far the least popular of the Big 3 in Japan, with NaruSaku in the middle and SasuSaku somehow still on top dry.gif


If SasuSaku happens, I may burn Kishimoto in effigy along with all the manga volumes I have bought so far. Does Kishi take the opinions from his home country, or does he just ignore them and write his own manga?

Edited by Beastbomb, 29 March 2013 - 03:05 AM.


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Posted 29 March 2013 - 03:05 AM

QUOTE (Shadow1275 @ Mar 28 2013, 07:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Haha thanks. As for SasukexSakura HHOOOWWWW? It doesn't make sense considering he ignored her completely in part 1 and he tried to kill her and Arrrgghhh. My head hurts facepalm.png

Say what you will about their manga relationship.

But their fanart...

QUOTE (Beastbomb @ Mar 28 2013, 08:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If SasuSaku happens, I may burn Kishimoto in effigy along with all the manga volumes I have bought so far. Does Kishi take the opinions from his home country, or does he just ignore them and write his own manga?

Because Kishi obviously took his fans' opinions for Road to Ninja. kruemelmonsteryn0.gif

Edited by Baguette, 29 March 2013 - 03:09 AM.


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Posted 29 March 2013 - 03:11 AM

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Because Kishi obviously took his fans' opinions for Road to Ninja. kruemelmonsteryn0.gif


....good point sweatdrop.gif .....




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