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#14001 WhyDoIWatch

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Posted 31 March 2015 - 11:21 PM

No, not really. Tobirama upheld a system where jinchuriki were oppressed. Tobirama did nothing against the Uchiha. In fact, Tobirama made the Uchiha the police of the village, which is actually a pretty powerful position. Laws mean nothing if no one enforces them, the Uchiha were handed power of the bureaucracy, yet they wanted more. Hashirama handed out the bijuu like they were nothing more than animals and created an oppressive system in which jinchuriki were sacrificed and used as tools of war, and then hated in the confines of their homes which they were used to protect. Hiruzen didn't cause Naruto's suffering, but he damn sure enabled it. Watching someone get abused and not doing a damn thing about it makes you guilty by accomplice. If it had been Tsunade as Hokage, she would have murdered the people that dare treated him wrongly, and then adopted him.

Yes, they were blamed for something they didn't do, however, Konoha did have probable cause to suspect them. There is only two ways to subjugate a Bijuu, the sharingan and Mokuton. Not to mention the fact that not a single Uchiha fought to help the leaf. The actions Konoha took were wrong, but the Uchiha weren't victims, they too had a hand in what happened. Like I said, the Uchiha determined the lives of millions of citizens were worthless simply because they weren't Uchiha. The Uchiha were just as much scum as Danzo. They didn't deserve what happened to them, but they damn sure don't deserve the pity card when they chose an equally disgusting route.

True, but Naruto is different in the sense that he was acted upon by outside forces, his story was forced to continue by people who wanted him killed. Sasuke's continued for zero reason other than to appease fans, because he sure as hell didn't have any direction following Itachi's death.

No, he's weaker because Naruto was stronger. Zetsu said he was stronger than Sasuke before Sasuke even went blind. Sasuke would have gotten plowed by Naruto had they fought immediately following pain.

 

Orochimaru even states the wrongness of the act to Tobirama about giving the Uchiha that power, it caused them to dissent even further because of it. Even Hashirama scolds him about it. Besides the Uchiha lost ther power after they were falsely accused of the Nine Tails attack. What Hashirama did was bad but he sealed the Nine Tails inside Mito, his wife and Mito did the same to Kushina, you can only blame Minato for Naruto being the host. Hiruzen also didn't do anything to Sasuke's situation.  LOL, that's why I like Tsunade a lot. 
 

They never stated that the lives were worthless because they were non-Uchhas. Really? Danzo? He's just a piece of kitten, the Uchiha's wanted better treatment, were their ways wrong? Of course, risking innocent lives is never right.

Tobi wasn't an outside source? If he hadn't told Sasuke about Itachi, Sasuke would have returned to Konoha.

 

Zetsu says "he MIGHT be stronger than you" with Sasuke saying "I don't care". Sasuke has Amaterasu and only really fast people like Raikage, Minato, and KM Naruto could escape it.


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Posted 31 March 2015 - 11:33 PM

Wow, i just found a good note in a fanfiction story that really hits my nerve with all the trash that hits FFN lately (thank you Kishi for the sh*tty war-arc and the ending :goodjob: ):

 

When canon immitates fanfiction and fanfiction immitates canon immitating fanfiction, it's fanception except we've all been let down.

 

What fanfic it was?


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Posted 31 March 2015 - 11:34 PM

"He always loved her so I don't see the problem", "NH is true love. Love does not wait", "Aww soo cute"

 

Stupid kitten like that  :down:

 

1 month to get married though... it'd take a month to even get a conversation going between these two. :twitch:

I can already imagine the way Naruto proposed to her :sick: :sick: :sick:


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Posted 31 March 2015 - 11:39 PM

I can already imagine the way Naruto proposed to her :sick: :sick: :sick:

 

"Hinata-hime-sama , I know I'm a lowly being compared to your utter holiness but I have right now to make an confession: your boobs are my light, your arms, my delight ! So please give me the honor to unite with you in holy matrimony ! Please Hinata-hime-sama !!11! "


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Posted 31 March 2015 - 11:43 PM

 

Orochimaru even states the wrongness of the act to Tobirama about giving the Uchiha that power, it caused them to dissent even further because of it. Even Hashirama scolds him about it. Besides the Uchiha lost ther power after they were falsely accused of the Nine Tails attack. What Hashirama did was bad but he sealed the Nine Tails inside Mito, his wife and Mito did the same to Kushina, you can only blame Minato for Naruto being the host. Hiruzen also didn't do anything to Sasuke's situation.  LOL, that's why I like Tsunade a lot. 
 

They never stated that the lives were worthless because they were non-Uchhas. Really? Danzo? He's just a piece of kitten, the Uchiha's wanted better treatment, were their ways wrong? Of course, risking innocent lives is never right.

Tobi wasn't an outside source? If he hadn't told Sasuke about Itachi, Sasuke would have returned to Konoha.

 

Zetsu says "he MIGHT be stronger than you" with Sasuke saying "I don't care". Sasuke has Amaterasu and only really fast people like Raikage, Minato, and KM Naruto could escape it.

They dissented because it wasn't enough for them, they had plenty of power. They were never accused of it, only suspected, and they never lost their power. The jinchuriki system was a system created by Hashirama, therefore he holds accountability for the lives ruined because of it. Hiruzen didn't do anything for Sasuke because he didn't need it. The entire kittening village loved him, he was a prince. He was the one who had all the love in the world given to him, but chose to push it away. Naruto was the polar opposite, he had all the love in the world to give, but no one to give it to because they all stood by and spit it back in his face because they deemed a child trash. And Hiruzen stood by and did nothing. I loved Tsunade.

 

The Uchiha were willing to sacrifice the lives of millions of people because they believed that they, as Uchiha, had the right to have the village under their control, thereby deeming the lives of non Uchiha worthless. Their motives may have been well founded, but their actions and intentions make them scum, just like Danzo. 

 

Honestly, with the way Frog Kata works, I highly doubt Amaterasu works on Naruto anyways. Plus his proficiency with the clone jutsu works well enough. 


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Posted 31 March 2015 - 11:43 PM

I wonder what the NH fans say to Naruto and Hinata marrying so quickly...

Is that really true?

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Posted 31 March 2015 - 11:45 PM

Wow, i just found a good note in a fanfiction story that really hits my nerve with all the trash that hits FFN lately (thank you Kishi for the sh*tty war-arc and the ending :goodjob: ):

 

When canon immitates fanfiction and fanfiction immitates canon immitating fanfiction, it's fanception except we've all been let down.

Hahaha that is such a good way to describe it! It was switched around!

"He always loved her so I don't see the problem", "NH is true love. Love does not wait", "Aww soo cute"

 

Stupid kitten like that  :down:

 

1 month to get married though... it'd take a month to even get a conversation going between these two. :twitch:

He always what?? :wot: :wot: They must be smokin' the same pot as Kishi I swear :twitch:


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Posted 01 April 2015 - 12:03 AM

Lol.

I don't know why but this made me laugh.

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OMG. I'm crying.

Why are you doing this to me?

I can't even laugh, they took my freakin molars out. BYE. :cry:

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Posted 01 April 2015 - 12:10 AM

How can anyone question this man?

Warning


I wanna marry this man.

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Posted 01 April 2015 - 12:12 AM

 

"Hinata-hime-sama , I know I'm a lowly being compared to your utter holiness but I have right now to make an confession: your boobs are my light, your arms, my delight ! So please give me the honor to unite with you in holy matrimony ! Please Hinata-hime-sama !!11! "

I'm dying :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

"N-Naruto-kun, ever since we were little kids I've been stalking watching you. You've always been the person I wanted to become. You were my source of inspiration. To see you standing here before me right here and right now and asking me to become your wife is like a dream come true. Even if it's only been a month, I feel like we've been together for years. So LET'S MARRY AND MAKE BABIES AS SOON AS POSSIBLE!"

Pretty sure that was her response U_U


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Posted 01 April 2015 - 12:19 AM

He always what?? :wot: :wot: They must be smokin' the same pot as Kishi I swear :twitch:

It's true you know. The NH fans say that Naruto always loved Hinata ever since the very beginning, and the genjutsu is what made him finally realize it. They must be smokin' something to come up with that conclusion.


 


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Posted 01 April 2015 - 12:26 AM

It's true you know. The NH fans say that Naruto always loved Hinata ever since the very beginning, and the genjutsu is what made him finally realize it. They must be smokin' something to come up with that conclusion.

Anyone who believes that does not understand his character at all. He knows who he is and what he wants. Sakura is the one who was in this position, not Naruto.


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Posted 01 April 2015 - 12:53 AM

Sometimes, when I lurk around different Naruto Forums/ Sites, I just feel like most of Naruto fandom is full of Absolute Idiots ......smh.


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Posted 01 April 2015 - 12:53 AM

@whyidowatch
By design, naruto is stronger than sasuke.
By plot, both of them are equal.

And sasuke is avanger, the day he stop avange thing that's when his character done. And it happen after his fight with naruto.

And I despise kishi as writer/mangaka not as the person since I don't know him personally.

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#14016 WhyDoIWatch

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Posted 01 April 2015 - 01:11 AM

@whyidowatch
By design, naruto is stronger than sasuke.
By plot, both of them are equal.

And sasuke is avanger, the day he stop avange thing that's when his character done. And it happen after his fight with naruto.

And I despise kishi as writer/mangaka not as the person since I don't know him personally.

 

He stops becoming an avenger after the Kage fight but I agree.

Sometimes, when I lurk around different Naruto Forums/ Sites, I just feel like most of Naruto fandom is full of Absolute Idiots ......smh.

LOL, Naruto has the worst fanbase I have ever seen, I refuse to go on Naruto YouTube comments because of it.


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Posted 01 April 2015 - 01:12 AM

 

He stops becoming an avenger after the Kage fight but I agree.

LOL, Naruto has the worst fanbase I have ever seen, I refuse to go on Naruto YouTube comments because of it.

Good choice. The youtube comment section about Naruto is a bunch of idiots.


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Posted 01 April 2015 - 01:12 AM

Sometimes, when I lurk around different Naruto Forums/ Sites, I just feel like most of Naruto fandom is full of Absolute Idiots ......smh.

Naruto is a story of the idiots, by an idiot, for the idiots.
-by a random Abraham

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Posted 01 April 2015 - 01:13 AM

Sometimes, when I lurk around different Naruto Forums/ Sites, I just feel like most of Naruto fandom is full of Absolute Idiots ......smh.

i know i'm an idiot, that's why i love going to nf.


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Posted 01 April 2015 - 01:15 AM

Sometimes, when I lurk around different Naruto Forums/ Sites, I just feel like most of Naruto fandom is full of Absolute Idiots ......smh.

This is site is the only connection I have with the naruto fandom. After the ending I was done with anything Naruto related.

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