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#1381 Sakura Blossoms

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 01:27 AM

QUOTE (Strangelove @ Jan 28 2011, 08:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Making fun of a country leader is what Americans are all about.

We make fun of our own country leaders, we make fun of the Iranian president, do i hear someone saying it was disrespectful? We make fun of the leader in North Korea...i don't hear Korean Americans saying it was disrespect. Heck we even make fun of leaders we like.

So just because according to you, 'its what Americans do and what they are all about', that makes making fun of a person, their race, and their culture right and okay to do? huh.gif

People murder each other in the streets everyday. It's what they do. Thus that makes it right...right mellow.gif

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 04:43 AM

QUOTE (Sakura Blossoms @ Jan 29 2011, 01:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So just because according to you, 'its what Americans do and what they are all about', that makes making fun of a person, their race, and their culture right and okay to do? huh.gif

People murder each other in the streets everyday. It's what they do. Thus that makes it right...right mellow.gif


No, is what humans do and what they are all about. Men make fun of women, women make fun of men. People make fun of people. You have to know that talking smack is what people do all around the globe. Whether is in China, India, Argentina, or America. We all talk smack of each other, and no one should be sensitive about it. Unless your this guy.




Then its different.

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 08:41 AM

QUOTE (Strangelove @ Jan 28 2011, 10:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No, is what humans do and what they are all about. Men make fun of women, women make fun of men. People make fun of people. You have to know that talking smack is what people do all around the globe. Whether is in China, India, Argentina, or America. We all talk smack of each other, and no one should be sensitive about it. Unless your this guy.




Then its different.


Well yes, but I don't think joking about Mao being a pedophile would sit well with a People's Republic rally in Tianamen Square. Some countries don't even allow the uttering of profanity. Besides making jokes about public figures is actually quite American.


Murder I don't think is an accurate comparison to this suggestion that making fun of public figures is an American thing. I could see it as a human thing though.

Edited by Insurrection, 29 January 2011 - 08:57 AM.


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Posted 31 January 2011 - 02:09 AM

QUOTE (Insurrection @ Jan 29 2011, 08:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well yes, but I don't think joking about Mao being a pedophile would sit well with a People's Republic rally in Tianamen Square. Some countries don't even allow the uttering of profanity. Besides making jokes about public figures is actually quite American.


Murder I don't think is an accurate comparison to this suggestion that making fun of public figures is an American thing. I could see it as a human thing though.


There is also the fact that Rush is not Chinese. If he was Chinese, and in China then he has to abridge by the rules of the Chinese, but he is an American living in Wonderland, so he abridges by the rules of the United States with the same mentality of a pig.

Aren't Americans humans?

Edited by Strangelove, 31 January 2011 - 02:10 AM.

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Posted 31 January 2011 - 06:35 AM

QUOTE (Strangelove @ Jan 30 2011, 08:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There is also the fact that Rush is not Chinese. If he was Chinese, and in China then he has to abridge by the rules of the Chinese, but he is an American living in Wonderland, so he abridges by the rules of the United States with the same mentality of a pig.

Aren't Americans humans?


*Alright just let me put on the spaced out crazy hat on for a moment*

American People are humans, because it's a society however we would use American as an identity of a geographic location for a specific group of culture and people.

Webster defines American as:

1: an American Indian of North America or South America
2: a native or inhabitant of North America or South America
3: a citizen of the United States

In this case you refer to number 3 because that is who we are. However the second definition is inhabitant in which an American could be a Prairie Dog. But this is politics not philosophy so I'll stop there.

Now Rush Limbaugh was doing an idiotic impression which was offensive but yet some people find funny. But he could be the typical foreigner to the Chinese and would be immediately joked about as a fat American and mocked in the Chinese language with a hideously botched John Wayne impression.

Besides to your original point he's paid millions of dollars to be an ass because his listeners share his opinion. Yes your pretext that it's human to make fun of others is true but this is when the differences between being a human and a person or people are.

*hat off*

Ugh, stuff like this makes me feel weird. Can't we just go back to the Superficial/Issues based stuff?

Edited by Insurrection, 31 January 2011 - 06:46 AM.


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Posted 31 January 2011 - 08:13 PM

Sounds good to me. i found this hillarious.

Texas Beer Joint Sues Church

In Mt. Vernon, Texas, Drummond's Bar began construction on expansion of their building to increase their business.
In response, the local Baptist church started a campaign to block the bar from expanding with petitions and prayers. Work progressed right up until the week before the grand reopening when lightning struck the bar and it burned to the ground.

After the bar burning to the ground by a lightning strike the church folks were rather smug in their outlook, bragging about the power of prayer, until the bar owner sued the church on the grounds that the church "was ultimately responsible... for the demise of his building, either through direct or indirect actions or means".

In its reply to the court, the church vehemently denied all responsibility or any connection to the building's demise. The judge read through the plaintiff's complaint and the defendant's reply and at the opening hearing he commented, "I don't know how I'm going to decide this, but it appears from the paperwork that we have a bar owner who believes in the power of prayer, and an entire church congregation that now does not."

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Posted 31 January 2011 - 11:53 PM

QUOTE (catsi563 @ Jan 31 2011, 09:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sounds good to me. i found this hillarious.

Texas Beer Joint Sues Church

In Mt. Vernon, Texas, Drummond's Bar began construction on expansion of their building to increase their business.
In response, the local Baptist church started a campaign to block the bar from expanding with petitions and prayers. Work progressed right up until the week before the grand reopening when lightning struck the bar and it burned to the ground.

After the bar burning to the ground by a lightning strike the church folks were rather smug in their outlook, bragging about the power of prayer, until the bar owner sued the church on the grounds that the church "was ultimately responsible... for the demise of his building, either through direct or indirect actions or means".

In its reply to the court, the church vehemently denied all responsibility or any connection to the building's demise. The judge read through the plaintiff's complaint and the defendant's reply and at the opening hearing he commented, "I don't know how I'm going to decide this, but it appears from the paperwork that we have a bar owner who believes in the power of prayer, and an entire church congregation that now does not."



Mhmm...maybe there is a god...or maybe it was just a coincidence

But if there is a god, you have been warned, he, she, or it, is known to have a sense of humor.

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 03:53 AM

God does exist, and Has a wonderful sense of humor.

After all just look at the platypus.
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Posted 04 February 2011 - 10:41 AM

I'll never understand Republicans:

http://news.yahoo.co...n-abortion-bill

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Posted 04 February 2011 - 01:24 PM

QUOTE (Sakura Blossoms @ Feb 4 2011, 04:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'll never understand Republicans:

http://news.yahoo.co...n-abortion-bill


First, the Hyde Amendment deals with public funding of abortions, not the legality of the abortions themselves.

I'm making some assumptions and what they think (the article does not explain the "why"), but the thing to keep in mind about statutory rape is that the sex in those cases is usually consensual in that both parties consented to the act. It is rape because the law has decided people under a certain age cannot consent as a matter of law to having sex. The law has deemed them too young to be able to consent to the act in all instances. In Texas the magic age is 14. Anyone, and I do mean anyone under 14, cannot legally consent to sex, end of story. If I have a 14 and 13 year old have sex. It's rape. Period. It doesn't matter how often the 13 year old says they want it. They can say yes all day long. It's still rape.

There is the within three years rule, but that only applies with those who are between the ages of 17 and 14. If it's under 14. That rule does not apply.

Pro-lifers believe that from the moment of conception the baby is alive. To abort it is to kill a human through no fault of its own and is to kill someone who has no ability to protect their own existence. This is why many pro-lifers are as passionate as they are about the issue. They do not want their money being used to pay for act they believe is murder. The debate over whether a fetus is alive and when they are stems from this. Most pro-lifers are okay with abortion in cases of rape and incest is because the pregnancy is completely forced upon the woman in every sense of the term.

So why would statutory rape differ from forcible rape? In my example, both parties agreed to have sex and the 13 year old gets pregnant. As I said, this is rape. However, the initial pregnancy wasn't the result of an act to which they did not want to partake in. Whereas in forcible rape and most incest cases the pregnancy arose from an act to which he victim did not consent. If a person ardently believes that abortion is murder why would they ever want a dime of their tax dollars to fund an abortion that comes as the result of a consensual act? Statutory rape is still rape and is prosecutable as such, but in pure statutory rape cases the person who got pregnant said yes to the act that caused the pregnancy.

The Democrats are right in that the language could be interpreted in a way that excludes date rape, since that does not involve the use of force as it is typically understood. If I were a judge I'd never read it that way because that's not what is intended, but I can't guarantee others wouldn't. The other problem is statutory rape cases can be very complicated. What if for example it's two thirteen year old's? What if it's a thirteen year old and 8 year old and they 8 year old says yes? There is good reason the statutory limit exists (I think it primarily created to cut off the adult child predators defense that the kid said yes), but it's bright line also creates situations where you could prosecute a 13 year old for having sex with a thirteen year old. Actually, you could prosecute both of them. You'd probably have you ass kicked in front of jury for doing so, but you could legally charge both.

I don't think they have through all the possible implications. They are thinking primarily about the young teens and tweens who have consensual sex, but the ban would be broader than that. However, this is by no means unique Republicans. Law makers of all stripes do this all the time.

You can agree with the rational or not (and that language will probably cover more things than they ever mean it to), but I don't think their motivation is very hard to understand.

NOTE: All my examples include only juveniles because that is what I deal with in my job (you'd be surprised what some of these kids do), but such cases don't always have to involve two juveniles.

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 02:52 AM

The reality about abortion.

Okay is the right of a woman to have an abortion, but the government has no right to use other people's money to fund it. The woman who wants that abortion must pull out the resources herself. Of course, there are ways in which the government will fund the abortion indirectly. In which those funds will reach the person who wants to abort.

The problem with making abortions illegal, is that it won't get rid of abortions, it will just increase the number of back alley abortions.

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 04:01 AM

the problem with not funding abortions federally is that you bring in to question abortions performed by a doctor for the health of the mother, and in cases of rape or oncest. once doctor mandated abortions of that nature are taken out of the equation all abortion becomes vulnerable.

While I do not support the federal funding of elective abortions, there is definate need for funding for abortions that a doctor mandates as neccesary. The need comes for women with low incomes who may not have insurance.

The problem with this bill is it attempts to redefine rape in the context of this funding and doesnt cover or make exceptions for several very neccesary reasons.
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Posted 18 February 2011 - 08:11 PM

Fox News drama...again:

http://news.yahoo.co...-paul-interview

And Democrats on the run:

http://news.yahoo.co...n_budget_unions

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 12:30 AM

I told you the fight back against class warfare directed by the pro corporate elites on the lower middle class and poor in the US would start with the unions, and that we were really close and here it is:

http://www.correntew...es_edition#more

The pro corporate elites never learn- until they are chased from power (if even then). How many times does it have be repeated, even in the US... If they go through with this they will be gone from office soon in this economic climate, and we could very well see violence like we did before social programs were put into place, union power was increased and corporate power was decreased- during the early years of the Great Depression.

Another good post on the situation
http://riverdaughter...nt-coming-soon/

And this one- protesters and allies use a bit of pointed humor to bring awareness to Americans about the similarities between Egypt and the situation in Wisconsin (and the US in general)
http://hoydenaboutto...ison-wisconsin/

And on the abortion and contraception issues, read this post:

http://guerillawomen...-about-her.html

And fresh slime today from a so called "liberal" Democratic governor- showing that 99% of that party is just as much in the pocket of big corporate interests as 99% of the Republican party

http://www.correntew...illion_tax#more

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 04:36 AM

This is the greatest thing I've posted here in awhile! A guy in Buffalo Crank called Walker posing as a Koch brother AND NAILED HIM!!!

I've posted the transcript of the whole phone call above.

Edited by Insurrection, 24 February 2011 - 04:38 AM.


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Posted 24 February 2011 - 10:31 AM

That Walker guy never even noticed. tongue.gif

even here in Belgium we call that in English a kittening r*tard

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 11:06 AM

I would have died laughing had it not been so blatantly obvious who he was working for from the beginning (hint it was never the people of wisconsin)

I loved the hypocracy of his prior statement saying ha had no issue with the people of wisconsin protesting, but took issue with the out of state protestors. This would have held water had the Koch brothers not shipped in out of state pro walker prostestors.

Then he admits out right he considered haivng troublemakers go out in the crowd.

We have to pay real close attention to this one. because hes basically shown what the game plan is. kill the unions and the ability of workers to bargain for their jobs and other important things. follow it up with right to work laws which enable employers to set any and all terms as thye see fit, and remove any regulations and regulatory bodies like Osha and the others that enable them to do anything they want.

If you dont think thats important believe me you're wrong. The 8 hour a day, 40 hour work week is becaus eof unions. your vacation time being paid for thats unions, and your health benfits thats unions, lastly your minimum wage which enables you to own a home and survive is ebcause Unions bargained for and got these concessions put into law.

without them, buisnesses would gut any and all labor laws as quickly as possible, and we the worker would suffer for it.
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Posted 27 February 2011 - 07:45 AM

Just keep shooting yourselves in the foot, Republicans. Just keep going:

http://news.yahoo.co..._demonstrations

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 04:34 AM

So does anybody know if there is actually a credible Republican Nominee out there for 2012?

I'll start from the top:

Gingrich: Leftover from 1994, the time has passed
Huckabee: Has a TV show and recently said the President grew up in Kenya, oh and said he mispoke but still tried to continue the theme of "different"
Palin: Do I really need to go there?
Santorum: No.
Barbour: Made comments that the opposite side could construe as "racist" You don't let Nathan Bedford Forrest be put on a state license plate and say there's nothing wrong with it man.
Pawlenty: Primary base trouble
Romney: Primary base trouble
Christie: He doesn't want to run.
Bachmann: HA!

Alright this could be fun, we can name a candidate and state the issues they would face in an election. We love pointing out flaws. It's genius!!!

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 01:09 PM

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