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[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Anyways this is why I have a little hope.

This isn't the first time we've felt like this, has it? Remember Hinata's confession? Where everyone was saying that Naruto will be with Hinata since she confessed and risked her life for him when no one else did? Remember what happened next? Sakura hugged Naruto. Then came Road To Ninja where Kishi made it look like it was a major NaruHina and SasuSaku movie with advertising it as such. Remember how we all felt betrayed on thought that Kishi really supported NaruHina and SasuSaku? Remember what happened next? Movie came out and it was a NaruSaku movie.

Kishi has a habit of trolling us and the NH/SS fans. He gets our hopes down and gives NH/SS fans hope then BAM! NaruSaku goodness. I cannot tell the future but with this chapter, the same thing can happen. We get our hopes down and NH/SS fans celebrate and then BAM! we get NaruSaku. Only time will tell.

Or I could be wrong and we're all screwed. xD

I just hate this year of 2012, srsly everything went wrong, i lose 2 projects, i still could not finish my game that i'm working on, 615 ended wit ha kittening cliffhanges and 2 with no new chapter.
LOL.

When 2013 comes i'll ask to be an awesome year.

[AzureWaters]

I don't think I want to get my hopes up again. I'm gonna read the next chapter, and the ones following, like I'm sure NH is canon. From what I've seen there is no way around NH right now that won't make Naruto and Kishi look like asses. They already do to the NS fans. Call me negative but that's the only way I'm gonna reduce the hurt. Anyway, I like how everyone just ignored the negatives of the recent chapter because of the NH implications. If that had been Sakura I wonder how many people would have dropped the manga then and there, and pointing out that the bad things that were written in.

I agree with your interpretation of the chapter. While it isn't the Official Couple just yet, NaruHina will be endgame. I've said it before that I believed all three (NH, NS, and SS) had a chance, and frankly I'm not surprised at this development. It grates on my nerves something bad, but I can accept it for what it is.

One thing I'd like to complain about is the total lack of resolution to Naruto > Sakura. What Kishimoto did was place Sakura in the background this arc, and had him interact more with Hinata, all positives and smiles. Its an easy and cheap way to switch a love interest.

Edited by AzureWaters, 30 December 2012 - 02:48 PM.

[六道仙人]

I just hate this year of 2012, srsly everything went wrong, i lose 2 projects, i still could not finish my game that i'm working on, 615 ended wit ha kittening cliffhanges and 2 with no new chapter.
LOL.

When 2013 comes i'll ask to be an awesome year.

it was a bad year for me too

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I agree with your interpretation of the chapter. While it isn't the Official Couple just yet, NaruHina will be endgame. I've said it before that I believed all three (NH, NS, and SS) had a chance, and frankly I'm not surprised at this development. It grates on my nerves something bad, but I can accept it for what it is.

One thing I'd like to complain about is the total lack of resolution to Naruto > Sakura. What Kishimoto did was place Sakura in the background this arc, and had him interact more with Hinata, all positives and smiles. Its an easy and cheap way to switch a love interest.

WHile you are wrong because the arc didnt ended, he cant switch a love interest like that, dont come with all positives and smiles, Naruto was all positive since he come back, he even smiled to Nagato and Itachi, Tsunade, Raikage, he even smiled to kyuubi.
Cant understand why you think NH is endgame without the arc ended.

Like i said way before NH is endgame if "0" NS happens on this happen.
You will change your mind if NS happen on this arc, you know it.
Be honest with yourself.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 30 December 2012 - 02:53 PM.

[HalfStarStudios]

it was a bad year for me too

It was a good one for me. o_o. Graduated. Got a great photography/filming job. Got a girlfriend(who so happens to be a NH fan xD). Had an amazing summer vacation. Got my drivers license etc.

I don't let manga ruin my year because it's what? 15 minutes out of my life once every week?

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

It was a good one for me. o_o. Graduated. Got a great photography/filming job. Got a girlfriend(who so happens to be a NH fan xD). Had an amazing summer vacation. Got my drivers license etc.

I don't let manga ruin my year because it's what? 15 minutes out of my life once every week?

I'm sorry if it sound like, my GF is from 2011 so i didnt count, but a lot of bad things happened, the manga was the last of them.
I work with research, on computer security so it's quite stable.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 30 December 2012 - 03:03 PM.

[AzureWaters]

WHile you are wrong because the arc didnt ended, he cant switch a love interest like that, dont come with all positives and smiles, Naruto was all positive since he come back, he even smiled to Nagato and Itachi, Tsunade, Raikage, he even smiled to kyuubi.
Cant understand why you think NH is endgame without the arc ended.

Like i said way before NH is endgame if "0" NS happens on this happen.
You will change your mind if NS happen on this arc, you know it.
Be honest with yourself.

Look, I'm being as honest as I possibly can right now. Do you think I like admitting some other pairing is endgame?

I would change my mind if NS were to happen of course. But the case is is that it won't. The recent chapter is the most you can hope to get out of the manga regarding romance, and the interactions happened with NH. I'm not sure how anyone can interpret what went on as anything but romantic. It was very "in your face".

[Don-kun]

I just hate this year of 2012, srsly everything went wrong, i lose 2 projects, i still could not finish my game that i'm working on, 615 ended wit ha kittening cliffhanges and 2 with no new chapter.
LOL.

When 2013 comes i'll ask to be an awesome year.

I lost my job and now work as a taxi driver, even when working this way paysme a lot more, the traffic on the street is unbearable, plus I don't have life insurance since I'm my own boss.

I agree with your interpretation of the chapter. While it isn't the Official Couple just yet, NaruHina will be endgame. I've said it before that I believed all three (NH, NS, and SS) had a chance, and frankly I'm not surprised at this development. It grates on my nerves something bad, but I can accept it for what it is.

One thing I'd like to complain about is the total lack of resolution to Naruto > Sakura. What Kishimoto did was place Sakura in the background this arc, and had him interact more with Hinata, all positives and smiles. Its an easy and cheap way to switch a love interest.

I always get that feelings that no matter what happens you will always believe that NH will be the end game maybe fallow by SS.

I feel like you like NS but you don't believe it will ever happen and this is something I sense in you since RTN.
If NH is made canon that is the only time I will believe NS will never be, NH is not canon and you don't make a pairing canon by ignoring the other characters for the rest of the Manga. Like I said Kishi will need to hate Sakura and that is something no one can be sure of.

Look, I'm being as honest as I possibly can right now. Do you think I like admitting some other pairing is endgame?

I would change my mind if NS were to happen of course. But the case is is that it won't. The recent chapter is the most you can hope to get out of the manga regarding romance, and the interactions happened with NH. I'm not sure how anyone can interpret what went on as anything but romantic. It was very "in your face".

You are not being hones you're being pessimistic and driven by your negative thought, most of the people here are not kishi but by what we got so far from the Manga and the thing Kishi is hiding from us we want to believe that our pairing still have chances, the way you act is like someone already told you the ending of the Manga or you are Kishimoto himself, since you believe to know what will happen in the end while trying to force the other reader to see things the same negative way you currently do.

Edited by Don-kun, 30 December 2012 - 03:14 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Look, I'm being as honest as I possibly can right now. Do you think I like admitting some other pairing is endgame?

I would change my mind if NS were to happen of course. But the case is is that it won't. The recent chapter is the most you can hope to get out of the manga regarding romance, and the interactions happened with NH. I'm not sure how anyone can interpret what went on as anything but romantic. It was very "in your face".

You're making an assumption that nothing regarded to NS would happen saying with 100% sure, i personally dont know what will happen on the next chapters but this scene didnt make any hint about Naruto having romantic feelings for Hinata and this i'm sure 100%.

[HalfStarStudios]

I'm sorry if it sound like, my GF is from 2011 so i didnt count, but a lot of bad things happened, the manga was the last of them.
I work with research, on computer security so it's quite stable.

Oh sorry about that. I hope next year is better for you.

[AzureWaters]

I always get that feelings that no matter what happens you will always believe that NH will be the end game maybe fallow by SS.

I feel like you like NS but you don't believe it will ever happen and this is something I sense in you since RTN.
If NH is made canon that is the only time I will believe NS will never be, NH is not canon and you don't make a pairing canon by ignoring the other characters for the rest of the Manga. Like I said Kishi will need to hate Sakura and that is something no one can be sure of.

No, if there had been NaruSaku hints this arc I would have believed it to be endgame. All I can say is that these developments have been a major disappointment but I'm still trying to look objectively at what Kishimoto's doing, regardless of what I would like to happen.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Before getting back to topic, I would like to say this year is rather strange for me. There are goods and bads. Goods are graduating, NS fanservices, the latest movie, and foreshadowing (ObiRin), pretty good games, getting work done, and some other stuff. The bads are the hurricane, little finance struggle but all ends in 2013 (can't wait!), and some other minor ones, including NH vs. NS in the current arc (not bad but waiting for NS).

I think 2013 will be the year that I can say it will be the turn for the best. Great new games, NS event in Japan (lucky!), new Xbox (I hope!), more raise and perhaps promotion, finance struggle no more (bye bye, loans!) and other stuff. My New Year Resolution is building up so far. I do think 2013 will be the awakening from 2012 buildup.

Now back to this topic. I find it funny how this chapter brings more new NS members than ever. This wait is long and somewhat aching, but I think I needed this to get my stuff done.

[Don-kun]

No, if there had been NaruSaku hints this arc I would have believed it to be endgame. All I can say is that these developments have been a major disappointment but I'm still trying to look objectively at what Kishimoto's doing, regardless of what I would like to happen.

But this is another big mistake and it force me to believe that you're also one of those NS fan that was greatly disappointed by believing that all of those NS hints were leading for them to be the end game without a proper resolution with the other pairings while start saying and assuming that Sakura didn't love Sasuke anymore.
I never believe In NaruSaku because off hints, was mostly because of their development, look at the NH fans all the focus was on NS, but they never stop believing that their pairing will receive some focus, sad part is that the moment they start receiving any they jump to canon same mistake we did, but what is worst is we start calling our side dead when we should already learn our lesson.

No pairing is cannon until the end of the Manga, speculation is one thing but affirmation of events we don't have a clue about is wrong.

Edited by Don-kun, 30 December 2012 - 03:45 PM.

[Arachnia]

Seeing Narusaku4life3q hes picture and that is real how could kishi do hinata i wonder how???

[kirabook]

Double Arts...... For the love of god.... to this day I seriously wish I could go to Japan and kick the dumbass editors in the balls for cancelling it.

So I'm not the only one that knows of Double Arts around here. I even stayed up late last night rereading it and internally sobbing at how good it could have been. I don't know what's wrong with people over there, there's no way that manga wasn't popular. Even if it wasn't, it just needed some time to get started. As for that manga, I think the end game pairing was obvious... or at least it seemed like it. XD




I really don't like jumping to conclusions, I didn't assume NS was canon after the movie or the hug or anything. Whenever you do that, Kishi will throw a wrench in the way to move you off course. *decides to draw a random path of what I think of the manga progression and relationships* I might miss a few important things, but yeah.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Seeing Narusaku4life3q hes picture and that is real how could kishi do hinata i wonder how???

Are you referring to my sig?

Yes, even if we gotten a lot of NS from movies and such, it doesn't mean it's canon. We all have to wait for the future events.

[Branden]

You know the one thing that 615 keeps making me think about is "What if Kishimoto isn't as good a writer as we think he is?"
All of the worries I have are stemming from that question.
What if Kishimoto genuinely ruined his own manga thinking it was good.
It all comes from opinions of course but every worry I have revolves around it.
At this point I'm beginning to question how talented he is and if he can make what he's doing into a beautiful story or a giant pile of wasted potential.

I think the thing that's driving me crazy the most is that I cannot possibly figure out in any other way but waiting for the next chapters.

Edited by Branden, 30 December 2012 - 03:58 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

You know the one thing that 615 keeps making me think about is "What if Kishimoto isn't as good a writer as we think he is?"
All of the worries I have are stemming from that question.
What if Kishimoto genuinely ruined his own manga thinking it was good.
It all comes from opinions of course but every worry I have revolves around it.
At this point I'm beginning to question how talented he is and if he can make what he's doing into a beautiful story or a giant pile of wasted potential.

I think the thing that's driving me crazy the most is that I cannot possibly figure out in any other way but waiting for the next chapters.

I will make those questions to myself when the arc ends, and based on the answers i'll drop or not Naruto for good.

[Arachnia]

Are you referring to my sig?

Yes, even if we gotten a lot of NS from movies and such, it doesn't mean it's canon. We all have to wait for the future events.

Yes to the sig,

And what if kishi was more like this i remember there was enought panic once hintata was thinking about holding narutos hand and being beside him but we all thought it was in a romantic matter so we where pist back then, now Kishi made it happen like this (mabey showing us no not romantic at all so calm down) OFC we went crazy and now Kishi is like How do i reach these kids got that from southpark hahaha but i think its not romantic at all anymore too many chapters left.

[Madz]

wow...
joining the party very late since I read the latest chapter only now...
I'm so...so stumped. Whatever angle I see it, the holding hand at the end IS a very big thing here. And Hinata started stuttering again - huge deal again since she had stopped stuttering in the last few chapters...


But oh well, I would still trust my guts and wait to see whether I'm wrong. I still expect a Narusaku ending...hope it's not a wild dream now.

And if by a wild madness it's a NH ending, then it's a very very poor taste pairing, since Naruto will go to her by an obligation. The girl gave her life for him twice, so he is sort of obligated to return her feelings. Will he live such a lie??
Gosh, I'm stumped.