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[Faexylona]

Yes, I agreed that it would be something plausible and in a way it would fit Kishimoto's writing style. I too, however, hope that Sakura will not say that (even with a good reason, the outcome will still be bad)

If that is true then yes, the bashing contest against Sakura coming from the Sakura haters will rise in a level that we will only have peace here (where we still can have a calm and objective view of the situation)

Let just hope that she won't have to go that far (at least, not saying those hurtful things toward Natuto) to gain Sasuke's trust.






You're right, Sasuke does have what he want. Just take the fight with his brother, like Madara had said, Itachi didn't fight like he usually fought, he was sick (and by the look of it, it seem like it was at a serious critical point) and he had already made his mind that he wished for Sasuke to defeat him. So, even if it was a great fight, it was still a tricked one. So, in that way, I say that Sasuke didn't really kill his brother (in fact, I think it said that it was Itachi sickness, if I remember). No matter the outcome of the fight, Itachi would have die anyway and he would have give Sasuke all the great power that he now possess. that why, to me, Sasuke gain his new power in a 'easy' way. Plus, if he wouldn't have gain these new power, he wouldn't have been as successful with his fight with Danzo (especially if he didn't have Susanoo).

As for Naruto yes, you could say that Kishimoto make Naruto's life a 'living hell'. However, I think that we shouldn't underestimate his capacity ether. The pain that Naruto have to face have make him stronger and wiser and, to me, that is a good thing. So far, to me, we have seen a Naruto that have face many difficulties but did raised himself again and even more mature then before. That, to me, is what I like about Naruto and that why we shouldn't underestimate him. Just because he hyperventilate because of all the information about Sasuke doesn't make him weak. He did have his weak moment but raised himself above those difficulties and whatever the outcome of the meeting between Sakura and Sasuke, I'm sure that, yes, he would take it bad, but that will make him grow some more. Hell, maybe that will be the key to make him realize that Sasuke true darkness (because, so far, that the only think that Naruto stubbornly refuse to see and make his growing process stagnate). As soon as we see Naruto realizing that fact, I think that we will see one hell of a new Naruto (Kinda like the one that we see against Pein).

Have faith in Naruto's capacity Shippuden girl, because Naruto is strong and will succeed in defeating whatever obstacle that he will have to face. Plus, he won't be alone, he will have Shikamaru, his new confident, like Kishimoto have said.

Well, said

[Nate River]

Threads merged.

Guys, there is no reason to have two separate threads that are not only about the same topic, but have the exact same title.

[ShippudenGirl]

You know I just thought of something.

If Sakura did say to Sasuke "I don;t care about him." I wonder what would happen if Sasuke said "Prove it....kill him." Just making Sakura deliver the final blow on Naruto.

If she couldn't do it, then guess what? She is a terrible liar.

Well said ;D I don't know why Hinata is still alive, but is obvious there going to make her come up out of nowhere to have a talk or something. Though, I believe the first person to have real faith in Naruto was Minato (Because he was talking about how he wanted him to be just like the ninja in Jiraiya's book: Strong and etc)

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[Gravenimage]

Here are some predictions of 483 from mynarutoblog.com

Naruto 483 - Awakening of the Beast
Posted: 13 Feb 2010 05:08 PM PST


Awakening of the Beast is the latest naruto manga prediction by Jeanericuser and the fourth prediction this week. Both Sakura and Kakashi were at the bridge staring at Sasuke. They are about to attack Sasuke in any time. Something had happen to Sakura in this chapter. She is badly injured after her chest got a kunai thrown by Sasuke. Naruto just coming from the forest and screaming out of hell when he see Sakura lying down on Kakashi's arm. Everyone were shocked as Naruto's is covered in a massive amount of chakra energy flowing from him in an explosive inferno of fiery chakra.



Status: Predictions

Sakura is looking at Sasuke while Sasuke seems surprised at her appearence.
Sasuke: "So you have come here to help me?"
Sakura: "Yes I have realized that there is nothing I have left in Konoha. My place is by your side."
Sasuke: "Try as hard as you may Sakura but you were never good at bluffing. You are here to kill me."
Sakura face goes to a nervous look and she pulls out a kunai.
Sakura: "You are coming back with me to Konoha."
Sasuke: "And if I refuse?"
Sakura: "Then I shall take you back, dead or alive. You are still coming back home with me."
Sakura tries to throw a kunai when suddenly she realizes she can't move.
Sakura thinking: "I can't move! Some kind of genjutsu."
Sasuke: "Then I guess I will just kill you here right now but first I must tie up some loose ends."
Sasuke walks over to Karin and Karin looks up at Sasuke.
Karin: "Sasuke...."
Sasuke stabs karin in the heart with his katana and Karin lets out a yelp before dieing.
Sasuke pulls his katana out of Karin and walks over to Sakura. Tears start to stream down Sakura's face.
Sakura: "No! Not like this."
Sasuke: "Farewell Sakura."
Sasuke gets into position to behead Sakura.
Kakashi: "Sasuke stop!"
Sasuke moves away as he sees Kakashi heading into the clearing.
Kakashi: "Give it up Sasuke! Enough is enough! It is time you gave up!"
Sasuke: "So are you here too to capture me as well or are you just here to kill me?"
Kakashi: "If I have to."
Sasuke: "What will do you about Sakura? Can you save her now and stop the bleeding or are you gonna sacrifice her to capture me?"
Sasuke throws a kunai hitting sakura in the chest, then turns around, and runs away as Kakashi runs over to Sakura who has fallen limp to the ground. Kakashi cradles Sakura's head in his arms.
Kakashi: "Im sorry Sakura. I should have tried harder to stop you."
Sakura: "Tell nnnnNaruto Immmm sorry. I sssshhhhould have lissstened to him."
Sakura slumps over as blood pours from her mouth. From in the tree tops Sasuke watches and a tear drops from his eye as he watches her die in Kakashi's arms.
Sasuke: "Farewell Sakura."
Sasuke runs off as Kakashi still sits there cradleing Sakura in his arms. Naruto arrives to find Kakashi cradling sakura's head on his lap as she lays dead. Naruto walks over as tears start to stream down his face.
Naruto: "No! No! NNNNNNNOOOO!!!"
Kakashi: "I am sorry Naruto. I wasn't able to save her in time. Sasuke killed her."
Naruto's expression goes from a sad face to an extremely enraged face. Naruto explodes with red chakra in three tails mode with sage eyes that change into kyubi eyes. Sasuke suddenly stops and turns around with a shocked look on his face.
Sasuke thinking: "What is that chakra?! Its insanely huge! Its naruto!"
Naruto yells so loud that it echoes through the forest that Mizukage, Choujiro, Ao, and Sasuke all stop to listen.
Naruto: "Hear me sasuke! No matter where you run I will find you! No matter who you ally with I will kill them all! From this moment on I will not rest until I have avenged all those you have murdered! I will not stop until I have killed you and all that remains of akatsuki!"
Ao, Choujiro, and Mizukage all have shocked looks on their faces.
Choujiro: "Who the hell was that?!
Ao: "Whoever it is he is just ahead."
Mizukage: "Lets go immediately. I sense there is trouble ahead."
Kakashi is shocked as Naruto's is covered in a massive amount of chakra energy flowing from him in an explosive inferno of fiery chakra. Naruto has an extremely enraged look on his face.

Naruto 484 - A terrible promise

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Naruto 483 - Team 7
Posted: 13 Feb 2010 04:46 PM PST


Welcome AkamaruChewtoy to My Naruto Blog. This is his first attempt writing a prediction, so he ask for us to give him opinion and feedback. Naruto 483 Team 7 is the title for the prediction. The chapter start with the flashback to the day Sasuke left Konoha. Then Kakashi arrived. Sasuke activated his Susano to crash them all but Naruto stopped the attack with his Sage mode power. What will happen next in Naruto 483? Continue reading the prediction below:



Status: Predictions

Sakura: Please – let me be with you.
Sasuke: tch
Sakura: I love you.
Sasuke: Really? So does she (motions to Karin).
Sakura (eyes widening): …sasuke…
Sasuke draws his sword and stabs Karin.
Sasuke: This is how I value her love. Is this what you would follow?
Sakura drops to her knees.

Flash back to the day Sasuke left Konoha.

Sasuke: You’re *still* annoying.
Sakura grips her fists, begins to cry: WHY!? Why are you doing this?
Sasuke removes his sword from Karin: Go home, little girl.
Sakura, with determination: No.

Sakura lifts her hands and punches the ground. Large fissures open up and rock is launched at Sasuke. The pieces fall about Sasuke who hasn’t moved.

Sasuke: Heh.
Sakura: I can’t allow you to continue on this path. Because I love you, I will stop you!!
Sasuke: Really… what makes you think – (flickers and appears behind her) – you can?

Sasuke ignites chidori and strikes. A rock slab shoots up between them; Sasuke’s jab destroys the slab but Sakura is grabbed and thrown to safety by Kakashi who responds with a chidori of his own resulting in a small explosion tossing both to the side.

Kakashi: Sakura! If you are serious about stopping him, don’t just stand there. I’ll need you on this.
Sakara: Bu—right. (focuses)
Sasuke: Hm. I didn’t even hear you. You haven’t lost a step, Senpai.
Kakashi: Sasuke, what has happened here? Where is Madara?
Sasuke: I don’t think he’s someone you should worry about.
Kakashi: He’s misleading you! Using you! Think about what you are doing with him; it’s driving the nations to war! You will not survive this path you have taken!!
Sasuke: I have survived more than the threats of a mere Jounin.
Kakashi, grimaces: That’s Hokage to you.

Two Kakashi lightning clones appear at either side of Sasuke; a third clone emerges from the dirt, grabs Sasuke’s legs and turns to rock. A water dragon draws up from beside the bridge and slams into sasuke as both lightning clones go off.

Sakura in shock: Wha…
Kakashi: Stay alert!
Steam clears and Sasuke stands before them, encased in the skeletal Susano’o.
Sasuke: Impressive timing. But not enough. (thinking) Dammit – I don’t have enough chakra left to maintain this form. This has to end quickly.
Kakashi: Sakura, we need to knock him off balance. This is no time for hesitation. I’ll go left and you right – try and take out his footing.
Sakura: OK.
Both charge at Sasuke, who smiles. Sasuke: Fine with me.
Susano’o raises it’s arm.

Naruto lands between all three. The impact blows both Kakashi and Sakura aside. Sasuke/susano’o are pushed back a few feet but remain eye to eye with Naruto. Surprise on everyone’s face.
Naruto: My apologies, Hokage Kakashi. But you should know by now you can’t leave me out of this. Sasuke is MY responsibility.
Kakashi: Naruto… don’t…
Sasuke: heh. Here to convince me to return, again?
Naruto: Yes. This is the last time. Sasuke – come back to Konoha. Revenge will only lead to death… please.
Sasuke: Poor Naruto. Just like last time, you fail to see the difference in our powers. You fail to understand the differences in our paths. Clinging to this bond that only you acknowledge. But this is not like last time. This time there is no to stop you from dying.
Susano’o’s arm comes down.
Sasuke: Our bond is broken.

Naruto raises his hand and catches Sasano’o; it drives him a foot into the ground but he is still standing.
Close up on Sage Eyes: You’re right.
Naruto punches out and Susano’o is thrown back and collides with the tree in the bridge.
Sasuke, wide with disbelief: Na-urto… y-you…
Nartuo: This is not like last time.

Next Issue: The Bond Breaks.

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Naruto 483 - A Friend Now Your Pain
Posted: 13 Feb 2010 12:46 AM PST


The chapter starts off where it left last week. Sasuke and Sakura talk about several thing regarding the past, back when Sasuke was in Konoha. Naruto finally reach Kakashi in the mid way. Sakura began to attack Sasuke with her immense power. Sakura's plan to kill Sasuke is actually a suicide bombing. Can Kakashi and Naruto stop this madness? Continue reading Naruto 483 entitle A Friend Now Your Pain by State of Naruto.

Status: Predictions

starts off where it left

Sakura:(thinking) Sasuke reaps of madness and insanity, making my move want be easy
Sasuke: ha, the funny thing is you are leaving, I'm going back to the place where it all started..

Sakura: ?? what does that mean exactly.
Sasuke: I'm not running from konoha anymore !!!
Sakura: (surprise/disbelief expression) really ?? so the path of revenge you follow leads you back than ??


Sasuke: thats right, the road I travel leads me back to the Leaf, back too the start with a new goal in mind, the path leads back home. you see ??
Sasuke: (with a deep dark senseless look on his face) my mayhem as only just began.
we have nothing in common are ambitions are different, you are vanishing im returning and, the fact i dont have any feelings for you or anyone in Konoha, we have no business with each other


Sakura: im here too assits you Sasuke, if your journey heads to Konoha so be it.

Sasuke: like im going to believe that, Sakura, Sakura, same old pink haired little fooless girl, always falling behind, so you decided too take the lead and kill me.. i don't even need my Sharingan to see that. its was only a matter of time before the leaf decided on killing me..
Sasuke's (insane look returns even worst than before) O well, looks like a have two to kill here now. Sasuke uses *chidori sharp spear*
(the spear hits Sakura right between the eye's.. POOF Sakura instantly disappears a replacement technique ..
(the real Sakura concealed herself upside down under the bridge)

Sasuke: coming here Sakura, you most have known you were coming to your own death to come out so we can get it over with

Sakura:(hided under bridge)(Sakura begins to get cool feet) only now (realizing) she made this decision on emotions along, no concrete plan to kill Sasuke, (her thoughts begins to exploded has she thinks about a possibly of escape from this nightmare she created),
Sakura: (terrified) i have got to get out of here (her body numbs over she is unable to move. (than the thought of Naruto and Kakashi sensei comes to mind),
Sakura: i cant live like this any longer always following them around, i just cant, i'd rather die here and now, i dont have a plan or the ability but i have the will too kill Sasuke, im not running not matter what. now lets see, my plan to given Sasuke trust was a failure in everyway, just as i thought, Sasuke couldn't tell the replacement from the real thing, most likely hes low on chakra, completely unable to use Sharingan, in his state i'd say he only has two more low level ninjutsu's left than all hes ninjutsu and genjutsu will be useless to him, but its still taijutsu, good thing Sai, Lee, and Kabi, are not here so if i fail only i will be killed.


(Kakashi)
not good Sai clone is gone now and so is my (Being cut off by)
Naruto: Kakashi Sensei !!!!!!!!!!!
Kakashi: !! Naruto i knew you would follow me, but that that fast (thinking) what incredible speed
Naruto: no time to talk Sensei, i senses Sakura's Chakra, around 1 KM north from here
Kakashi: you senses ?? so that how you trace me than.
Naruto: yeah.. shes not along two other's chakra are in that same place
Kakashi: can u identifie the other two, could one be Sasuke
Naruto: one is to weak i cant tell if its Sasuke or not, The other one is ...
Kakashi: the other one is what ??
Naruto: anyway Sakura maybe in trouble, lets just hurry.


(BACK TO THE BRIDGE)

Sakura: (reappears) on the Bridge behind Sasuke
Sasuke: finally come out of hiding ???
Sakura: (thinking) hmm, he never saw my power, i should have the element of surprise (smashing the ground, creating a wave of earth headed straight for Sasuke)
Sasuke (shocked) at Sakura's power (jumps into the air) (dogging) the moving earth
Sakura (uses a smoke bomb to disappear) than reappearing in the shy above Sasuke
Sakura: agagagag (punching) with all her energy (the blow connects with Sasuke)sending him flying back to the ground, boof a piece of wood flys out
Sakura: (Landing) replacement .
Sasuke (reappears) ha. it ends now, (meeting) Sakura with his sword throw the the gut
Sakura: your right i see its still some sense in that head of yours
a seal release from Sakura's body travles throw Sasuke's sword into his body without him knowing the seal numbs over his body leaving him completely paralyzing him
Sakura:for this seal to work it most be a connection the connection is this sword of users Sasuke (Sakura than unconcealed a bomb in her hand)
Sasuke (with a shocked frightened look) you idiot suicide is all you are doing !!!!!!!!!
Sakura: your right Sasuke it ends now

Kakashi&Naruto (arrives)

As you can see:

1. The first prediction Sakura dies by Sasuke and Naruto goes insane it's 100% fake since she's a main character and the heroine of the manga, Kishimoto will never have her killed.

2. The second prediction is so fake it made me laugh to tears it just a S/S prediction like it was taken from a fan fiction story.

3. The third prediction I really like it and at least goes well to be real material. At least everyone was acting to their characters in the manga and not so OC.

Edited by Gravenimage, 14 February 2010 - 04:29 PM.

[Prime]

Well said ;D I don't know why Hinata is still alive, but is obvious there going to make her come up out of nowhere to have a talk or something. Though, I believe the first person to have real faith in Naruto was Minato (Because he was talking about how he wanted him to be just like the ninja in Jiraiya's book: Strong and etc)

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Minato said then what he was still alive tho. The point is nobody noticed Naruto but Hinata. If you want to build up a character you need supoprt characters nobody can know who is good and bad if theres no one to be good or bad to. Hinata was the first one to say Naruto was good. No one else would talk to him. Taking her out of the story is really kind of pointless also while I don't prefer NH over NS I imagine Hinata's confession will still be brought up.



Oh and this was last page sorry for late response

No, you missed the point. You misunderstood what I am saying.

Someone said Karin would never die because she is not important enough to. I am merely saying that there are characters that really have no importance being alive either. We also have other characters who were killed off, but really had no other purpose other than to be there. Like that one guy from the chunnin exams that Gaara killed. (Again terrible at names)

It is actually really easy to kill off character, but the true challenge is making their death meaningful

Take Hinata for example. What purpose does she serve to the story if she is hardly there? Many say she is nothing, but a background character and only serves as catalyst for somethings. Other times, she is just there to be there. She hardly ever fights, not including fillers, and has made very little impact. Here is the question: Would the story change if she was alive or dead? How would her death affect the story. Judging by how "important" she is alive, it seems the story wouldn't change much. Nothing really to do with the pairing wars on this one actually. It was a joke on the first part mind you. Little pairing war humor.

It's not like if you kill off Sakura or Sasuke the whole story has to go in a different direction and since the manga is called "Naruto" I don't see Naruto dying anytime soon....maybe at the end, but doubtful.

Keeping a character alive or dead also take thought, but the point is what purpose they serve. Some characters are supposed to die and that is there purpose whether they are important or not. By important I mean something to that of main characters.

Karin could easily have been killed right now. Kishimoto could have her easily die in the last chapter, but he didn't. Why? Because she still has a purpose to serve. I believe she is still going to die otherwise why have her get stabbed by Sasuke, but she is not going to die just yet because she has one last purpose.

That's the point I am making.

The point your trying to make is insane. You cannot kill main characters off until the end. To take Sasuke out the story would be compleatly different. It's even been taken so far back to the "preist?" that had 2 sons. Now them 2 sons are represented by Naruto and Sasuke Power/Love. Somehow they have to over come what happened before. Just like everybody else has an obstacle to overcome from the past.. Can Naruto save Sasuke where Orochimaru could not? Theres an insane list to them.

[Serenity Namikaze]

Well said ;D I don't know why Hinata is still alive, but is obvious there going to make her come up out of nowhere to have a talk or something. Though, I believe the first person to have real faith in Naruto was Minato (Because he was talking about how he wanted him to be just like the ninja in Jiraiya's book: Strong and etc)

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I don't think your suppose to double-post

I have my doubt on Hinata future development. At least, I doubt that she will have a big role on Naruto (If Sakura isn't there doesn't necessarily make Hinata first female character). Kishi was even surprise about her popularity. If Sakura does something that will hurt him, I think that it will be someone like Kakashi or Shikamaru (kishi did say that Shikamaru will be Naruto new confident)

@ Gravenimage

WOW, that was a LOT of word to read

On a more serious note, the most plausible theory out of all 3 would be the last one. All the character weren't to much OC (at least, not like the other 2 theories), plus it would make sense for Sakura new development for being more heroine-like. As for Naruto, I really like him like that (the weeping boy theory piss me off)

Edited by silverserenity, 14 February 2010 - 02:11 AM.

[Insurrection]

Random question! Do the Japanese celebrate Valentine's day? Or is that just western tradition?

[Miss Soupy]

Random question! Do the Japanese celebrate Valentine's day? Or is that just western tradition?

Yes they celebrate Valentines day, however it is celebrated differently. On valentines day, the girls usually give chocolates to male friends/coworkers (cheap chocolate) or to a guy they like (special chocolate). A month later, on White Day, it is the guys turn to give presents to the girls.

[Insurrection]

Yes they celebrate Valentines day, however it is celebrated differently. On valentines day, the girls usually give chocolates to male friends/coworkers (cheap chocolate) or to a guy they like (special chocolate). A month later, on White Day, it is the guys turn to give presents to the girls.

Okay, crazy theory, what if Kishi had this planned out to have pairings line up with the holiday?

[catsi563]

the second theory is almost certianly plausible even if the dialogue isnt.

the notion of Sasuke and Sakura confronting each othe rin that regard and especillay the last part where naruto gives Sasuke one last chance to turn things around.

the third is also possible though less likely.

[James S Cassidy]

That doesn't make much sense though, because you are basically saying if a character isn't a plot mover, they can only be useful if they die. But there were tons of characters that have been introduced, used, and then fallen away once their point in the story ended. They didn't need to be killed; their part in the story was just small. The same goes for Hinata. While she wasn't a plot mover, that doesn't mean she was always completely unimportant. She gave Naruto a goal in part I, and in part II she showed she was able to change because of Naruto. Now that she has done this, she doesn't have much relevance and she will fall to the back ground. She has served her purpose, most likely, but that doesn't mean she needs to be killed in order to regain some purpose to the story :/

No...you are still misunderstanding me. A character is only as important as the role they play. Now what role they play is up to the writer. A character who isn;t a plot mover alive may not necessarily be a plot move if they die. So it is just as point to keep them alive as it is to kill them.

(ALL CAPITALIZED FOR EMPHASIS)
WHAT I AM SAYING AND PLEASE READ THIS CAREFULLY.
A CHARACTER ROLE IS MADE UP BY THE WRITER. THEIR FATE IS ALREADY DECIDED BY THE WRITER. IF HE CHOOSES TO KILL THEM OFF, NO MATTER WHAT ROLE THEY PLAY, THEY DIE. THEIR IMPORTANCE CAN BE THIS. THEIR IMPORTANCE CAN BE MADE TO DIE, BUT THEY CAN ALSO BE MADE TO LIVE. THE SAME CAN BE SAID FOR THE OPPOSITE. IF THEIR DEATH IS NOT IMPORTANT TO THE STORY, THEN IT WOULD BE SUPERFLUOUS TO KILL THEM OFF.

Remember how I said that even if a character has to die, their death as to mean something? Hinata's death is not important either. Imagine you are the writer for this manga. Hinata is a background character who gets sporadic moments, but you decide to leave her in the background. Now you could kill her off and cut a few corners down the road, but it can be just as bothersome to make up a good reason why the character must die...even a background character like Hinata. Also, what happens if you have a stroke of genius and decided you need her something? If you killed her off already, then it would create problem to bring her back to life only for one thing.

The answer: It is easier to keep her alive in case you do need her for something later on then it is to kill her just to get rid of her.

Even Kishimoto said that sometimes even he get inspiration to do something a little bit differently, but his main idea for the story has not changed.

Uh, really? Sasuke is the major plot mover of the story. If you killed him off the story would lose its direction. Sakura, while not as big of a plot mover as Sasuke, also is a major character. If anything happened to her, you can bet the story would not continue the same way. Just because the story is called Naruto doesnt' mean it is only about him and only he can move the plot.

*facepalm* You are just reiterating what I just said.

Look at what I wrote again please.
I said "It's not like if you kill off Sakura or Sasuke the whole story has to go in a different direction and since the manga is called "Naruto" I don't see Naruto dying anytime soon....maybe at the end, but doubtful."

Now replace "It's" with "Hinata"
"It's [Hinata] not like if you kill off Sakura or Sasuke the whole story has to go in a different direction and since the manga is called "Naruto" I don't see Naruto dying anytime soon....maybe at the end, but doubtful."

More or less I said Hinata's death, whether it happens or not, it NOT a major story breaker. Like you said, if Sakura and Sasuke died the story would be completely altered. I said this. Hinata's death would change one course, but it wouldn't stray from the original story line. The main story would not steer off course. Some might say it would, but truthfully she doesn't make that much of an impact to the story.

Her character is so...out of the story that even her death wouldn't change much. Which is why she isn't dead. No point to her death. She seems more important alive then dead.

BTW, I am NOT saying her character is bad or she is useless. I am saying that when it comes to the way the story draws out, she is not AS important as Sasuke or Sakura.

I think it's quite easy keeping a character alive but not having them in the story o.O Not sure what the difference is between alive but not present and dead? Genma had importance in part I, but do I care if I see him ever again? Not really, and he didn't even have to be killed off

.

Those kind questions you need to ask Kishimoto. Since I am not writing the story I cannot say what importance they have only that they do have an importance.

What's the difference between "not present and alive" and "not present and dead"? If they are alive, then that means they MAY serve future purpose. If they die, then they have served their ultimate purpose.

I agree that Karin probably has more to add to the story. However, even if she had nothing to add, that doesn't mean she necessarily has to be killed. In fact, some characters that are unimportant still deserve some resolution so that the reader can feel a sense of completion with their story. Does Karin's story feel complete? Would most people be satisfied with its conclusion if she was killed off? I don't think so.

No she doesn't NECESSARILY have to die, but then again this is not your story. Kishimoto's purpose to Karin is unknown. Whether she lives or dies it not up to us even if we disagree. Her purpose maybe to die, her purpose maybe to live. I do not know, but being a main character does not excuse her from life or death.

Like I have been trying to say over and over again....if she is to remain alive, then her importance is to stay alive (or possibly die later on or not at all.) If she dies, then that is her fate and purpose. It has nothing to do with whether she is a main character or not.

Her status does no dictate her fate.

Look at every single Naruto character that has ever been introduced. Look at the ones who died and ask: "Why did they die? Was their death meaningful?" The answer yes. Even if for something small such as emphasizing a scene to show carnage and bloodshed. Look at all the ones who are alive and ask "Why are they alive? Do they serve a purpose?" The answer...yes. Even if that purpose is that they have no purpose to die yet. Sometimes I have even seen characters in other comics/manga where they were brought back to life only to die later in a more dramatic and heartfelt scene.

I can not explain this any more simple beyond this point. If you still don't get it, then I give up.

The point your trying to make is insane. You cannot kill main characters off until the end. To take Sasuke out the story would be compleatly different. It's even been taken so far back to the "preist?" that had 2 sons. Now them 2 sons are represented by Naruto and Sasuke Power/Love. Somehow they have to over come what happened before. Just like everybody else has an obstacle to overcome from the past.. Can Naruto save Sasuke where Orochimaru could not? Theres an insane list to them.

I am not stupid, alright? I know and read all that already.

You misread me as well. I said Naruto can not be killed off until the end...if he is even meant to die at all. Sasuke is the major obstacle to Naruto's being. To him, it has been the only true purpose he thought he had, but sadly Naruto is still in the dark what his real reasons for everything. Thought in recent chapters he is slowly opening his eyes.

Naruto is the hero and Sasuke is his rival/main villain. Two households, both alike in dignity in fair Konoha where we lay our scene.

P.s.s
I don't think your suppose to double-post

I actually didn't double post. The second post was from a different thread after the mods merged the two. It just so happens my two post are back to back. So it's their fault...XD.

[Mugen no Neko]

TAKEN FROM http://forums.naruto....php?p=31223575
"Sakura's birthday falls on March 28, and Sasuke on 23 July. If we take the first digit and add (2 + 2), will give equal to 4. And if we add the other two digits of the number 4, will give the number 483, the NEXT CHAPTER!

HAH?! I don't frikkin understand! Bless me and my math deficiency :-3

But either way... that's really nuts.

[ShippudenGirl]

HAH?! I don't frikkin understand! Bless me and my math deficiency :-3

But either way... that's really nuts.

I don't get it at all either O_O how the heck do you get the 8 and 3?? Hmm, makes no sense and I got a 98 in Algebra O_e well just some SS theory I bet? Hmm.

[Froot]

So wait a minute - I'm no math genius but that theory is BS.

2+2=4; All right, that I get. But since when does adding 8 and 3 make 83? It equals 11. I learned that in Kindergarten. My little brother knows that. So what rule did they make up that allows them to add two numbers but just stick the other two next to each other?

And who even CARES? Is this person serious? If you wanted to play that card, I could just as easily say that 10 (Naruto's birthday) plus 28 makes 1,028, the chapter where Naruto and Sakura will get together!

Edited by Froot, 14 February 2010 - 03:33 PM.

[Gravenimage]

HAH?! I don't frikkin understand! Bless me and my math deficiency :-3

But either way... that's really nuts.

I have no words to say to this desperation at a whole new level.

[ShippudenGirl]

So wait a minute - I'm no math genius but that theory is BS.

2+2=4; All right, that I get. But since when does adding 8 and 3 make 83? It equals 11. I learned that in Kindergarten. My little brother knows that. So what rule did they make up that allows them to add two numbers but just stick the other two next to each other?

And who even CARES? Is this person serious? If you wanted to play that card, I could just as easily say that 10 (Naruto's birthday) plus 28 makes 1,028, the chapter where Naruto and Sakura will get together!

GAH! I couldn't wait that long for them to get together! Lol but it would be kinda cool if the manga ended up being that long! Or you could say 10x28 which would equal 280 and maybe theres a moment on that chapter? *Goes to check*

...Hmmm, nope. But something interesting is on the cover of 281 there's a picture of just Sakura and Naruto together smiling I wonder....

Gah, lmao probably doesn't mean anything.

[Hak]

I started to think that am I the only one who's noticed that all girls who have been cling to Sasuke, really are after that old part 1 Sasuke?

[ShippudenGirl]

I started to think that am I the only one who's noticed that all girls who have been cling to Sasuke, really are after that old part 1 Sasuke?

No, i'm pretty sure that Sakura knows there's no saving Sasuke; I think the only person actually clinging to Part 1 Sasuke is Naruto, and Ino too a little bit. But Naruto is starting to realize that Sasuke isn't the same. Ino, i'm completely clueless to what see thinks, though she was crying when they told her they were gonna kill the Sauce.

Edited by ShippudenGirl, 14 February 2010 - 05:22 PM.

[Serenity Namikaze]

So wait a minute - I'm no math genius but that theory is BS.

2+2=4; All right, that I get. But since when does adding 8 and 3 make 83? It equals 11. I learned that in Kindergarten. My little brother knows that. So what rule did they make up that allows them to add two numbers but just stick the other two next to each other?

And who even CARES? Is this person serious? If you wanted to play that card, I could just as easily say that 10 (Naruto's birthday) plus 28 makes 1,028, the chapter where Naruto and Sakura will get together!

I really like you're reasoning

two can play that game. If the SS fan can, so can we!

No, i'm pretty sure that Sakura knows there's no saving Sasuke; I think the only person actually clinging to Part 1 Sasuke is Naruto, and Ino too a little bit. But Naruto is starting to realize that Sasuke isn't the same. Ino, i'm completely clueless to what see thinks, though she was crying when they told her they were gonna kill the Sauce.

I think that too. Sakura seem to be aware that the Sasuke in part 1 isn't there anymore. However, I think that she didn't really fully realize how much he was lost in his own darkness. I think that she realize that fact when she saw him, trying to kill Karin and that when she said 'He's like a different person, Is this really Sasuke?'.

Edited by silverserenity, 14 February 2010 - 06:02 PM.

[Miss Soupy]

No...you are still misunderstanding me. A character is only as important as the role they play. Now what role they play is up to the writer. A character who isn;t a plot mover alive may not necessarily be a plot move if they die. So it is just as point to keep them alive as it is to kill them.

Then forgive me if I didn't understand. I didn't see that you were merely stating the obvious. The author will do what he wants, either kill off a character or use them further. This is something that goes without saying.

*facepalm* You are just reiterating what I just said.

Look at what I wrote again please.
I said "It's not like if you kill off Sakura or Sasuke the whole story has to go in a different direction and since the manga is called "Naruto" I don't see Naruto dying anytime soon....maybe at the end, but doubtful."

Now replace "It's" with "Hinata"
"It's [Hinata] not like if you kill off Sakura or Sasuke the whole story has to go in a different direction and since the manga is called "Naruto" I don't see Naruto dying anytime soon....maybe at the end, but doubtful."

The problem then was with your sentence structure that made people confused. Try putting it a different way so it's easier to understand. The way you put it as one sentences makes the reader think that you are saying 'Sakura or Sasuke dying wouldn't change the story', rather than saying 'a minor character is different than Sakura or Sasuke in their influence towards the story'.

More or less I said Hinata's death, whether it happens or not, it NOT a major story breaker. Like you said, if Sakura and Sasuke died the story would be completely altered. I said this. Hinata's death would change one course, but it wouldn't stray from the original story line. The main story would not steer off course. Some might say it would, but truthfully she doesn't make that much of an impact to the story.

Her character is so...out of the story that even her death wouldn't change much. Which is why she isn't dead. No point to her death. She seems more important alive then dead.

BTW, I am NOT saying her character is bad or she is useless. I am saying that when it comes to the way the story draws out, she is not AS important as Sasuke or Sakura.

Then yes, I agree with this. Truthfully, Hinata's death wouldn't impact the story much; she isn't really involved in the major plot. And no, it doesn't make her useless, but it doesn't make her important either.

Look at every single Naruto character that has ever been introduced. Look at the ones who died and ask: "Why did they die? Was their death meaningful?" The answer yes. Even if for something small such as emphasizing a scene to show carnage and bloodshed.

I'm not sure what you have in mind by a characters death being useful to show a bloody scene. But yeah, all the deaths had a point, mostly to push the main characters towards something. Actually, Kisames death was one of the more useless deaths because none of the major characters were really involved. His sword might go on to serve some other purpose however, but it felt like he wasn't given much justice as a character. Not that I really care about Kisame...

Look at all the ones who are alive and ask "Why are they alive? Do they serve a purpose?" The answer...yes. Even if that purpose is that they have no purpose to die yet. Sometimes I have even seen characters in other comics/manga where they were brought back to life only to die later in a more dramatic and heartfelt scene..

Actually, there are a lot of characters that are still alive that you could say 'why are they alive?' and not have any answer. However, readers tend to not want to see too many deaths in a story. So I suppose creating a better atmosphere for readers is a purpose itself, though not one you would necessarily think of.