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[Blayze]

Three words, people: JUST AS PLANNED.

[Strangelove]

One more thing...It seems that Sasuke actually wanted to kill Karin...i mean a better shot would have been at Danzou's head...why the heart? Why not the head?


Why Kishi why DD:?

Why do this to poor Karin, she was my 24th favorite D:

Edited by Strangelove, 30 January 2010 - 02:13 AM.

[crazyefra]

He did it like that to make it more dramatic than shooting him on the head

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[Serenity Namikaze]

OMG...FINALLY, don't tell me that this mean the end of this battle!!!

We probably will have the chance to see the main character....and that mean Naruto, not Sasuke.

OK now for my review of this chapter, first of all, while it was pretty obvious that Danzou would lose this fight, I never expected it so soon and especially not like that. I never really like him (in fact, I totally loath him ) however, I would have like more development for this mysterious character. I would have wish to know more about is plan to change the shinobi's world.

After that fight, I think that his main purpose was to force Sasuke to cross the last line of his revenge obsession, in other word, to get kill so that the last remaining humanity in Sasuke heart can be broken.

Now, for Karin...I don't really hate her, even if sometime she drive me nut. However, Sasuke really cross that line this time. Not only does he kill Danzou but he also sacrifice one of his teammates...even if, by some miracle, she isn't dead, Sasuke did stabbed her. In the end, if she survive, it seem to me that it was serious wound and that could mean her death anyway (I know that she can heal but, not with a wound as critical). If she dies, Sasuke will now have the death of two peoples, one a foe, the other a teammates that have done everything to help him.

One thing for sure is Kishi-sama did mention that he wanted Sasuke to become more an more evil and after that, I think he finally succeed with that goal.

However, even if Sasuke have cross the point of no return, I still think that he could be save. Do not forget that Sasuke is an embodiment of the Ninja world and the cycle of revenge. How can Naruto can wish to find the answer of world peace if he can't save Sasuke. In the end, I think that Sasuke will be evil until he fight Naruto. Naruto will try to convince Sasuke to stop his revenge and, by some Naruto-ish miracle, he will be save. However, to make the story more plausible, I think that Sasuke will be save from his path but, to erase his crime, he will die an honorable death ( in that case, saving Naruto in exchange of Naruto saving him).

[Froot]

this reminds me of the hinata smile xd

What part? The insane power lust or the crazy eyes?

[Dreamer]

Hinata has eyes off a horror film.



Hinata: Naruto kun.

Naruto: Those eyes creep me out, (Naruto puts his hand over his face) run away!! run away!!

Edited by Uzumakikage, 30 January 2010 - 12:01 PM.

[Cloud]

hinatas the face of evil (puts hands in cross shape) backs away slowly

Surely that will backfire on to you.

[AchikaMiyu]

One more thing...It seems that Sasuke actually wanted to kill Karin...i mean a better shot would have been at Danzou's head...why the heart? Why not the head?


Why Kishi why DD:?

Why do this to poor Karin, she was my 24th favorite D:

Because that would have been the most logical thing to do to a) kill Danzo and b) keep Karin safe. As we all know, Sasuke is not in a very good place right now mentally. He's not thinking logically because if he were, he would know how much of a tool he's being right now as Madara is playing him like a fiddle.

That and I don't think he wanted to deal with all of the jokes of "HEAD SHOT" after doing something like that. Plus, it's must more dramatic to have Sasuke kill Danzo by shooting a chidori blade through Karin. There's not as much drama in a chidori blade through the skull.

[Strangelove]

There is one little detail were missing...

Does Karin has Orochimaru's curse mark?

[James S Cassidy]

There is one little detail were missing...

Does Karin has Orochimaru's curse mark?

I doubt it. If she does, she hasn't used it yet.

[Gravenimage]

I have been reading comments which really annoys me ever since 480 came or before that chapter. People have been trying to make Sasuke look like he's the innocent victim of pain, that he has every reason to have revenge that Madara is just using him.

First of all:

1. Yes Sasuke has every right to have revenge but he has gone too far and has crossed the line. For instance he's killing people that has nothing to do with the Uchiha massacre. Trying to capture Killer Bee there was no reason for him to do that as part to fulfill his revenge. The samurais from the kage summit they had nothing to do with his revenge and yet he killed a lot of them without showing any mercy, proving that he will kill anyone that gets in his way of his revenge.

2. Madara is NOT using Sasuke he simply told him the truth of the Uchiha massacre and the truth about Itachi. He's only leading Sasuke in the right path that is favoring his plans and goals.

3. Sasuke chose his own path. He chose hatred and revenge on his own free will Madara didn't brainwashed him and told him you have no choice but to obey me Sasuke. He's doing all of this for his own selfish reasons which he thinks he's doing in it for Itachi and the Uchiha clan's sake when in truth he's not. He's making Itachi's sacrifice in vain and like it was all for nothing.

4. The only conclusion I can make that these people are trying to make Sasuke look like he's the misunderstood good boy. The reason that they want Sasuke to be save and brought back to Konoha in order for him to get together with Sakura. Leaving Naruto with no choice but to go to Hinata. Yet this is another desperate attempt from their part.

Edited by Gravenimage, 30 January 2010 - 07:31 PM.

[dfammer]

I hope this isn't bashing but Sasuke at this point is a lunatic murderer,killing or wounding one of his own crew(on purpose I might add)killing without hesatation,the hokage(although he is a creep) and severly wounding one of the other kages and attacking the rest of them,there's no coming back from that and as for Hinata give me a break NaruHina is deader than disco at this point.

[Freakazoid]

There is one little detail were missing...

Does Karin has Orochimaru's curse mark?

Probably not, since she wasn't used as a fighter. Atleast from what we know. Kishi could always change things up.

Edited by Freakazoid, 31 January 2010 - 04:39 AM.

[twintailednin29]

WOW!

Talk about not seeing that coming. I never really liked Karin but...... Not even she deserved that.

I feel that she might still be alive, and I would love to see how this affects her feelings for Sasuke.

[KungFuTruffle]

If Karin had a Cursed Seal, she would have used it by now. There've been many opportunities where she could have used it, whether against Killer Bee or at the Summit. And even if she did have one, what point would there be? The Cursed Seals don't have healing abilities.

[Prime]

I have been reading comments which really annoys me ever since 480 came or before that chapter. People have been trying to make Sasuke look like he's the innocent victim of pain, that he has every reason to have revenge that Madara is just using him.

First of all:

1. Yes Sasuke has every right to have revenge but he has gone too far and has crossed the line. For instance he's killing people that has nothing to do with the Uchiha massacre. Trying to capture Killer Bee there was no reason for him to do that as part to fulfill his revenge. The samurais from the kage summit they had nothing to do with his revenge and yet he killed a lot of them without showing any mercy, proving that he will kill anyone that gets in his way of his revenge.

2. Madara is NOT using Sasuke he simply told him the truth of the Uchiha massacre and the truth about Itachi. He's only leading Sasuke in the right path that is favoring his plans and goals.

3. Sasuke chose his own path. He chose hatred and revenge on his own free will Madara didn't brainwashed him and told him you have no choice but to obey me Sasuke. He's doing all of this for his own selfish reasons which he thinks he's doing in it for Itachi and the Uchiha clan's sake when in truth he's not. He's making Itachi's sacrifice in vain and like it was all for nothing.

4. The only conclusion I can make that these people are trying to make Sasuke look like he's the misunderstood good boy. The reason that they want Sasuke to be save and brought back to Konoha in order for him to get together with Sakura. Leaving Naruto with no choice but to go to Hinata. Yet this is another desperate attempt from their part.

1. How do you simply say something then the next thing you do is contradict yourself? Basically any ninja has to stop anyone that gets in there way of there mission anyways and thats just how the ninja world works no matter if its Sasuke or Konoha doing the killing.

2. Once again how do you give an example of some one using some one then contradict yourself? He obviously told him the truth in order to manipulate him into doing stuff for him. Of course it does not justify his actions but he is being used.

3. Sasuke chose his path because of the trauma of his family and being brainwashed by Orochimaru. He was 100% brain washed by Madara to. Madara told Sasuke he had to finish the job or he would kill him. Sasuke then attacked Madara so how you came to that speculation considering it was nulled because of the attack. Sasuke does feel like he is doing it for Itachi and his clan but if the information Madara have him is correct then is his actions justified? Some might argue that point. I think the thing is Konoha is just like every other nation it has its fair share of corruption and that has been proved before. It seems pretty understood tho that yes Itachi did not want his brother to have anything against Konoha. In a sense Itachi and Danzou are alot alike. Both were willing to do whatever it took to keep Konoha safe.

4. I don't think Sasuke is very misunderstood I think he is very understood Kishi writes the story a way so the reader can feel a certain way about each character. Sasuke at one point was a "good boy" he was doing good for his team and was willing to sacrafice himself for the team. He was best friends with Naruto and Sakura he even said it himself. I think people want Sasuke back is because that is what is supposed to happen in the story. It's sort of the main points of the story the need for him to return becomes reguardless of Sasuke and Sakura's situation. If he cannot return home Kishi will simply either kill him in the end or just have him some how vanish there is no room for Sasuke to be floating around after the main confrontation of the story.

I think many people would agree that there is simply no place for NaruHina. Karin was simply put in the story just for Sasuke why else would there be a Sasuke fan so close to him? Sakura has confessed love for Naruto and has had so much development its insane. For anyone to believe that NaruHina is still possible would be crazy. All the evidence of the plot simply point to NaruSaku any other pairing would have to be simply fandom.

[AchikaMiyu]

I have been reading comments which really annoys me ever since 480 came or before that chapter. People have been trying to make Sasuke look like he's the innocent victim of pain, that he has every reason to have revenge that Madara is just using him.

First of all:

1. Yes Sasuke has every right to have revenge but he has gone too far and has crossed the line. For instance he's killing people that has nothing to do with the Uchiha massacre. Trying to capture Killer Bee there was no reason for him to do that as part to fulfill his revenge. The samurais from the kage summit they had nothing to do with his revenge and yet he killed a lot of them without showing any mercy, proving that he will kill anyone that gets in his way of his revenge.

2. Madara is NOT using Sasuke he simply told him the truth of the Uchiha massacre and the truth about Itachi. He's only leading Sasuke in the right path that is favoring his plans and goals.

3. Sasuke chose his own path. He chose hatred and revenge on his own free will Madara didn't brainwashed him and told him you have no choice but to obey me Sasuke. He's doing all of this for his own selfish reasons which he thinks he's doing in it for Itachi and the Uchiha clan's sake when in truth he's not. He's making Itachi's sacrifice in vain and like it was all for nothing.

4. The only conclusion I can make that these people are trying to make Sasuke look like he's the misunderstood good boy. The reason that they want Sasuke to be save and brought back to Konoha in order for him to get together with Sakura. Leaving Naruto with no choice but to go to Hinata. Yet this is another desperate attempt from their part.

Madara is using Sasuke as a tool. He's only told Sasuke half-truths to manipulate him to do his dirty work. Take the fight with Danzo. Madara probably could have fought Danzo himself, but instead wanted Sasuke to do it. There were probably two purposes to this fight 1) to get rid of Danzo and 2) to make Sasuke become even more engulfed in hatred and darkness. If Madara can succeed in getting Sasuke to completely despise everything Konoha, then Sasuke will be a willing participant in its destruction. Remember, Madara never told Sasuke about his own involvement in the Kyuubi attack 16 years ago. He claimed it was a natural disaster. But Yondaime's talk with Naruto proves otherwise. So to that effect, Sasuke is choosing his own path of hatred, but based on inaccurate information; just as he choose the path of an avenger based on what he knew of the Uchiha Massacre and what Itachi wanted him to know about it.

Regarding #4, don't forget that Sasuke is also important to Naruto. Naruto views Sasuke as his brother and was one of the first bonds that he made. It's not like Naruto is trying to bring Sasuke back solely for Sakura. I have no doubt in my mind that even without the "promise of a lifetime," Naruto would still be fighting tooth and nail to bring Sasuke back. The original Team 7 was like Naruto's first family and he desperately wants to reclaim that feeling. That's why Sasuke's actions feel so unforgivable right now because we want Naruto to be able to redeem Sasuke. We want to see Naruto reclaim those bonds. And even if Sasuke were to be redeemed and come back to Konoha, that doesn't necessarily mean that SasuSaku is a sure fire win. Until there is development between Sakura and Sasuke that says otherwise, currently NaruSaku is the stronger of the two.

[pinkheartsyellowstars]

is it just me, but Danzou cares for the sake of Konoha, but just in the means of evil ways.

[Nee-sama]

Anyone else wondering why Sasuke went all one-eye M. Sharingan just to use his raiton? I thought he was gonna use amaterasu when he did that. Maybe he somehow used it to prevent Karin from being punctured. Just a thought.

I totally agree with you there Miyu. ^