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[ichigo500]

Now are you guys and girls convinced that this "ending" wasn't planned?

Since we don't know anything for sure, and since Kishi just keeps lying all the time that we never know if he's being honest or not, I guess there's at least two possible and believable options: 

-He either planned this in the middle of the story-as he said- but he's such a terrible author that he didn't even try to develop it, and instead continued to develop NS because...well banana.

-It wasn't planned at all, and now he's throwing some BS at us to make it more acceptable, which, imo, seems to be the real reason...because, I think he should have asked his wife or idk, if he wanted someone to advise him just like he did with Kushina. 

 

 

Well...

 

From the middle of the story? Hm! What sealed this decision for you? 

 

I think what made me realize it was partly because, if you really look back and think about it, Hinata always supported and acknowledged Naruto, even before Master Iruka. She had the ability to see beyond his reputation and see the person inside. I think I started realizing that they were meant to be.

 

This is a quote from the interview. Straight from the horse's mouth. Take it as you will. 

 

Okay, Hinata was actually always admiring him even before Iruka SHOWED that he truly was aknowledging him, BUT SHE NEVER SUPPORTED HIM BEFORE. She did it little bit later, but Sakura supported him sooooo much more compared to Hinakittens !  

[TouKen4Life3g]

Could you at least show that care from Hinata to Naruto since the middle? She should have gone through everything Sakura went through.

[yimiiyumi]

so some females from sp hated the ending but in the episode of today there is still a lot of sasusaku moments

I don't get, they made some fanservice sk in the last week 

100% sure was just to get some fans back 

anyone has the feelings the next eps are going to have a lot of nh fanservice ?

[TouKen4Life3g]

so some females from sp hated the ending but in the episode of today there is still a lot of sasusaku moments
I don't get, they made some fanservice sk in the last week 
100% sure was just to get some fans back 
anyone has the feelings the next eps are going to have a lot of nh fanservice ?

It's been a year. They have a new direction and they have to do it now. Back then, it was hardly any for SS. Now, we do.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

It's funny that I thought Kishi was using TL logic while explaining the NH bonds to the interviewer about them being close before his bonds with Iruka started. But if you read his speeches again. Clearly he was referring to Sakura. She's the only female (his gen) that might have been close to him before Iruka, which was the hinted flashback in chapter 697 of her cringing when Naruto was about to get his bashed in by Sasuke during the sparring in the academy battlegrounds. And she looked depressed when Naruto was declared the loser, which suggested that Naruto and Sakura might have a dark hidden past that we will most likely never ever get, which was use as a red herring. 

 

well I mean if the movie was in development for 2 years and already planned, then the ending was planned that long ago too, unless....what if the version of naruto the last we got was a last minute one made for all those fans spouting crap about naruto and hinata on the feedback pages and around the time kishimoto wrote this "ending"? what if the last really was a ns movie and then they changed it last minute over the months we got those supposed ns hints and stuff and that filler and the game were made around that time too and they threw the true love thing in the game for naruto and hinata and then just posted that filler unchanged like noone would care? I mean its probably easier to make an animated movie than to make one of those live action movies in hollywood I guess? idk...

 

You have to figure that Shuiesha/SJ played a major role in the ending, in which Kishi was allowed to end the manga because of NH (off the records). Remember that Kishi wanted to end the manga 7 years ago but was not allow to because the manga was very popular and at its peak at that time? Kishi came to SP, which he explain in one of his earlier interviews that he needed SP's help to flesh out NH.

 

Sure, the SP higher ups perhaps intentionally leaked this information about their females disliking the ending because NS never became canon, so they theoretically use this as an excuses to save their behinds if a council decisions is ever made in the future that the ending should deterred from the manga, and they point the fingers at Shieusha for everything. However, the higher ups did give the green light to mislead fans and rip them off with the false advertisements and the no refund. I'm sure there will be no remedy for that 

 

Shieusha no longer has any bearing on the story since the conclusion of the manga and SP has as all the rights to do with the Naruto franchise whatever way they want. So it will be up the the higher ups to determined this franchise's course. The only way we will know for sure is that we or someone must continue to the monitor the anime. The more we see hinted NS and SK rather if its fillers or canon episodes every week. 

[yimiiyumi]

It's funny that I thought Kishi was using TL logic while explaining the NH bonds to the interviewer about them being close before his bonds with Iruka started. But if you read his speeches again. Clearly he was referring to Sakura. She's the only female (his gen) that might have been close to him before Iruka, which was the hinted flashback in chapter 697 of her cringing when Naruto was about to get his bashed in by Sasuke during the sparring in the academy battlegrounds. And she looked depressed when Naruto was declared the loser, which suggested that Naruto and Sakura might have a dark hidden past that we will most likely never ever get, which was use as a red herring. 

the ask was; when he started to think about naruhina

and he said hinata's name

it's not even a possiblity of him being saying about sakura

read again that part

makes 0% sense

"I think what made me realize it was partly because, if you really look back and think about it, Hinata always supported and acknowledged Naruto, even before Master Iruka. She had the ability to see beyond his reputation and see the true person inside. I think I started realizing that they were meant to be."

not trying to defend him or anything but saying it's sakura who he is saying about is 100% wrong

Edited by yimiiyumi, 15 October 2015 - 02:46 PM.

[Nostradamus]

the ask was; when he started to think about naruhina

and he said hinata's name

it's not even a possiblity of him being saying about sakura

read again that part

makes 0% sense

"I think what made me realize it was partly because, if you really look back and think about it, Hinata always supported and acknowledged Naruto, even before Master Iruka. She had the ability to see beyond his reputation and see the true person inside. I think I started realizing that they were meant to be."

not trying to defend him or anything but saying it's sakura who he is saying about is 100% wrong

And the narrative is telling us otherwise. So it's just empty talk from him once again.

[yimiiyumi]

And the narrative is telling us otherwise. So it's just empty talk from him once again.

yeah but I'm saying he is not saying about sakura, it's weird to try say he is saying about sakura when himself is saying hinata's name 

probably he is just saying this for people accept the last as canon

I think by the original story is impossible to hinata or sakura know naruto before yuka I don't think sakura knew naruto I think the moment from 697 was showning the team 7 bonds since they were kids

But why are we even taking the interviews from this man in a serious way ?

I not gonna be really suprised if he comes out in the next interview and confirms sasuke was and still can be secretally gay/bisexual the whole time

Edited by yimiiyumi, 15 October 2015 - 03:09 PM.

[Nostradamus]

yeah but I'm saying he is not saying about sakura, it's weird to try say he is saying about sakura when himself is saying hinata's name 

probably he is just saying this for people accept the last as canon

I think by the original story is impossible to hinata or sakura know naruto before yuka I don't think sakura knew naruto I think the moment from 697 was showning the team 7 bonds since they were kids

But why are we even taking the interviews from this man in a serious way ?

I not gonna be really suprised if he comes out in the next interview and confirms sasuke was and still can be secretally gay/bisexual the whole time

I'm not taking anything he says right now as being "fact" or serious. I'm just enjoying the stupidity of the things he continues to say in order to justify this so called ending. The second he said that Sakura would be a terrible woman if she moves on from her first love is and he made others move on without a problem, is the second I've stopped taking anything he says or does seriously.

 

Currently he can't be trusted. It's just lies and contradictions with each new interview. And the next one will be the same.

I bet you any money in the next one he's going to tell a lie and say something contradictory, 100%.

[Tiller]

you know what's also funny? people make excuses how they hate sakura like for example that  sakura isn't a tsundere because she seems to just have the tsun part and not the dere dere part because its hidden  yet they love nami just fine and she's THE EXACT SAME WAY, JUST WITHOUT THE FANGIRLISM   and instead has a love for money, and yet the majority of one piece fans ship luffyxnami and not luffyxhancock, and narusaku is the same thing as luffyxnami. that's double standards right there....

Don't underestimate how many people hate her because of how she acts around Sasuke.

[Liu bie]

Oh, we got 3 guesses. I saw in tumblr the wife's thing is the article of the day. I know Toei is very bad animation, but sometimes do some things well. In Saint Seiya the pairing thing is not so focus, but when it does it leaves you warm feeling.

[narusakurama]

 

Well...

 

From the middle of the story? Hm! What sealed this decision for you? 

 

I think what made me realize it was partly because, if you really look back and think about it, Hinata always supported and acknowledged Naruto, even before Master Iruka. She had the ability to see beyond his reputation and see the person inside. I think I started realizing that they were meant to be.

 

This is a quote from the interview. Straight from the horse's mouth. Take it as you will. 

 

 

Really now ? Is this considering "the last"  or without "the last" flashbacks ? Because I could not see Hinata in chapter 1 , and I checked behind all the trees 

Edited by narusakurama, 15 October 2015 - 06:32 PM.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

the ask was; when he started to think about naruhina

and he said hinata's name

it's not even a possiblity of him being saying about sakura

read again that part

makes 0% sense

"I think what made me realize it was partly because, if you really look back and think about it, Hinata always supported and acknowledged Naruto, even before Master Iruka. She had the ability to see beyond his reputation and see the true person inside. I think I started realizing that they were meant to be."

not trying to defend him or anything but saying it's sakura who he is saying about is 100% wrong

 

All she did was stalk Naruto throughout the manga. 

[TouKen4Life3g]

Questions should have been "Did you intend to have a romance subplot when you first start it off? Also, why did you leave it off unanswered all the way to the end with little to no indication of being developed?"

Edited by TouKen4Life3g, 15 October 2015 - 06:41 PM.

[yimiiyumi]

 

All she did was stalk Naruto throughout the manga. 

Yeah but it's what kishimoto said

if you take this serious or no ... well it's your choise

Edited by yimiiyumi, 15 October 2015 - 07:33 PM.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

Questions should have been "Did you intend to have a romance subplot when you first start it off? Also, why did you leave it off unanswered all the way to the end with little to no indication of being developed?"

I think he will never answe that question because we all know the awnser to it. He would be admiring that he gave up and SJ drew the line for him.

[Liu bie]

Interesting we got 5 guests the most I have seen.

[Niky]

Yeah but it's what kishimoto said

if you take this serious or no ... well it's your choise

 

You make me laugh...

It's almost like you were trying to say that NOT take seriously that loser it's only my (or another forum member) 'opinion' (namely our prejudice) .

 

But that Kishi is a pathetic little fake is an established fact !!!

Edited by Niky, 15 October 2015 - 08:22 PM.

[Khaleesi]

http://www.animenews...omic-con/.94186

well

kitten is coming

Holy f uuuck

[TerrorKing]

 

Really now ? Is this considering "the last"  or without "the last" flashbacks ? Because I could not see Hinata in chapter 1 , and I checked behind all the trees 

Even with The Last, Hinata still wasn't there for Naruto when he was all alone and hurting. It made no difference to Naruto. By the time Hinata had finally gotten her kitten together to actually talk to Naruto, he had already gained alot of bonds and therefore her silent "support" meant kitten all. Harsh but true.