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#121 LuckyChi7

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Posted 29 March 2016 - 09:29 PM

While to me I though the movie was great it did have its problem serious problems... But also keep in mind there is a directors cut coming out on July 16. Plus when it comes to Zach Snyder his directors cut usually end being superior then the theaterical cut. A good example is the theaterical cut of Watchmen and the directors cut and there's a big difference there and the directors cut was made that movie better. Also according to him 30 minutes of Batman v Superman were cut because the studio wanted it to be under 3 hrs cause it would've been too long according to them. Which is partially the reason why the movie didn't turn out to be as good as everybody had hoped.

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Posted 29 March 2016 - 10:52 PM

While to me I though the movie was great it did have its problem serious problems... But also keep in mind there is a directors cut coming out on July 16. Plus when it comes to Zach Snyder his directors cut usually end being superior then the theaterical cut. A good example is the theaterical cut of Watchmen and the directors cut and there's a big difference there and the directors cut was made that movie better. Also according to him 30 minutes of Batman v Superman were cut because the studio wanted it to be under 3 hrs cause it would've been too long according to them. Which is partially the reason why the movie didn't turn out to be as good as everybody had hoped.

One of the deleted scenes was actually leaked already and it definitely explains a bit...

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Posted 29 March 2016 - 11:35 PM

That may be true but still, it shouldn't be this way. It's clumsy and I don't know how much it will change the fact the movie is more of a "Batman beat the hell out of Superman: Featuring Dawn of Justice." I'll watch it for sure, but it won't change too much in terms of direction. It will only answer some of the questions.

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Posted 30 March 2016 - 09:53 PM

You know what annoys me the most, the fact that people say this movie is great because it made money. And now because it made so much, the critics are wrong. I swear sometimes people are so stupid.
Of course it made a lot of money, the title of the movie contains the most popular and known names on this planet. Batman and Superman.

It could've been the worst movie in existence and it still would've a financial success.

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Posted 31 March 2016 - 04:55 AM

You know what annoys me the most, the fact that people say this movie is great because it made money. And now because it made so much, the critics are wrong. I swear sometimes people are so stupid.
Of course it made a lot of money, the title of the movie contains the most popular and known names on this planet. Batman and Superman.

It could've been the worst movie in existence and it still would've a financial success.

When people say such things, immediately point them towards Avatar...or, assuming they're not NH/SS/pro-end extremists, The Last, lol. BvS made a lot of immediate money, as you said, due to their names along with the hype built up through the trailers. I wouldn't be surprised if it quickly starts tapering off over the coming weeks after more people have seen it and spread word about how, while not a total bomb of a movie, it's nowhere near the greatness people expected.

I've been seeing similar styles of arguments on YouTube when it comes to ScrewAttack's DEATH BATTLE! show between Red/Charizard and Tai/Agumon - that Charizard "should have won" (or even that Pokemon in general are more powerful than Digimon) simply because Pokemon is the more popular franchise and makes more money compared to Digimon, ignoring pretty much any other reasoning presented against them.

Or look at (early) Yu-Gi-Oh! cards where a bunch of more expensive cards aren't always big tournament winning practical cards but rather cards that are simply popularized due to the anime/manga or just their general rarity status in the OCG/TCG itself like a MRD 1st Edition Gate Guardian used to cost $80+ while a LOB 1st Edition Red-Eyes B. Dragon could go for $100+. Even the unusable God Cards went for high prices due to their status in the anime/manga.

Basically, as we know, money does not equal quality/better/stronger/etc.


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Posted 31 March 2016 - 09:10 PM

When people say such things, immediately point them towards Avatar...or, assuming they're not NH/SS/pro-end extremists, The Last, lol. BvS made a lot of immediate money, as you said, due to their names along with the hype built up through the trailers. I wouldn't be surprised if it quickly starts tapering off over the coming weeks after more people have seen it and spread word about how, while not a total bomb of a movie, it's nowhere near the greatness people expected.

I've been seeing similar styles of arguments on YouTube when it comes to ScrewAttack's DEATH BATTLE! show between Red/Charizard and Tai/Agumon - that Charizard "should have won" (or even that Pokemon in general are more powerful than Digimon) simply because Pokemon is the more popular franchise and makes more money compared to Digimon, ignoring pretty much any other reasoning presented against them.

Or look at (early) Yu-Gi-Oh! cards where a bunch of more expensive cards aren't always big tournament winning practical cards but rather cards that are simply popularized due to the anime/manga or just their general rarity status in the OCG/TCG itself like a MRD 1st Edition Gate Guardian used to cost $80+ while a LOB 1st Edition Red-Eyes B. Dragon could go for $100+. Even the unusable God Cards went for high prices due to their status in the anime/manga.

Basically, as we know, money does not equal quality/better/stronger/etc.


What actually surprised me is such an argument also came from a family member of mine who knows a lot more about movies than I do. I was shocked.

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 06:13 PM

Huh. Really now? Cause I could say I liked the movie alot but I wouldn't call it great at all even if it's raking in the dough. There were alot of plot points I had problems with and the truce between  them was pretty nonsensical if you ask me. Well not so much that as it makes them "best friends" now


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Posted 02 April 2016 - 09:05 PM

Reading the discussions in here... Haven't seen the movie yet. Not sure if I will.

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 09:12 PM

Reading the discussions in here... Haven't seen the movie yet. Not sure if I will.

Wait for Blu Ray for more content. It's not god awful but it's disappointing. Batman carried that movie.

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 09:16 PM

Reading the discussions in here... Haven't seen the movie yet. Not sure if I will.

 

No it's not amazing like fans are hyping up to be. But I assure you I really enjoyed the movie :smile: I definitely recommend it overall. 


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Posted 02 April 2016 - 09:17 PM

Yeah, it's going to be hard to tell you since we do have mixed opinions here. It truly depends on what you looking for.

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Posted 05 April 2016 - 01:48 PM

Can this reach a billion?

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Posted 05 April 2016 - 05:34 PM

Can this reach a billion?

Currently, no. It had a good start but after people started to talk about it, it started to go down.
Maybe with the DVDs and blurays it will be close to that mark.

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Posted 05 April 2016 - 09:51 PM

Currently, no. It had a good start but after people started to talk about it, it started to go down.
Maybe with the DVDs and blurays it will be close to that mark.

Wow the power of word of mouth is truly powerful.

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Posted 05 April 2016 - 09:53 PM

Wow the power of word of mouth is truly powerful.

It does have the biggest drop.

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Posted 13 April 2016 - 12:44 PM

You know what annoys me the most, the fact that people say this movie is great because it made money. And now because it made so much, the critics are wrong. I swear sometimes people are so stupid.
Of course it made a lot of money, the title of the movie contains the most popular and known names on this planet. Batman and Superman.

It could've been the worst movie in existence and it still would've a financial success.

 

Hmm well you can sum up  the general attitude towards the movie with this in a nutshell, but mostly because I find this video funny.

 

 

the premise in question starts at 2:55 lol


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Posted 13 April 2016 - 04:34 PM

Wait for Blu Ray for more content. It's not god awful but it's disappointing. Batman carried that movie.

Of course he did. He's Batman.


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Posted 13 April 2016 - 10:15 PM

Not to be a heel, but Captain America Civil War reviews are out and wow, night and day.

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Posted 13 April 2016 - 10:33 PM

Not to be a heel, but Captain America Civil War reviews are out and wow, night and day.

 

 

I know right many praising Spiderman which is no surprise..

 

 

Speaking of Spiderman, anybody else think the title of the movie could've been better.... I mean Spider-Man: Homecoming seriously? 


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Posted 13 April 2016 - 10:52 PM

Yeah, I was thinking about it as well. It almost sound like MCU way of saying, "Spider-Man is back with us!"




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