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[Liu bie]

Who would Shinachiku fall in love with? Michi?

With Anzu Uchiha.

[somilmish]

Michi is the name of a very beautiful and popular forum member. She will totally bag Shina-kun. I mistook her for a Naruto character when posting in the crack pairing threads too
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I agree with Pix. In the long run, characters who have utterly likeable qualities are the most easy to forget. The flaw she suggests has a real basis. His parents, who'll be sure to pamper him rotten, be great and respected ninjas in their own right, and his dual hokage heritage. The only one I can see him fearing is his mother, much like Naruto himself..

Nice post Wn-chan, tricksie-chan. I think the personality you guys suggested was great, and quite fitting. I am a bit skeptical about the compassionate part though, since he will be living a sheltered life and I think that he will not be able to connect to the less fortunate so easily. (rather like Sakura, Ino or Sasuke as kids).

I disagree with both you and tricksie on the power front. I think making him naturally talented at everything and superpowerful when he is just starting out is detrimental to the reader's ability to connect with the character.I personally find it boring.

Edited by somilmish, 20 February 2015 - 11:03 AM.

[ThroughWithLove]

Hanabi? Well I always saw her as the devil child who wanted to be the Kyuubi when she grows up. She would have Sakura's personality but Naruto's hyper-ness. Basically she would be the problem child. 

 

But as for Shinachiku, I think the overly cocky one still wins my heart. Personally I just find that it'll give him a greater chance of character development if the story were to...exist. I also find it to be more realistic? And then, once he starts developing, he has the Shinachiku personality that everyone associates with him today. 

 

Indeed, this is pretty much how I see it. Unlike his parents, his talents were pretty much handed to him on a silver spoon. Problem is that he lacks the experiences and maturity that came with acquiring these natural talents and thus is inclined to let it get to his head. Not to mention that he lives an unusual age of peace and prosperity. An age where there isn't much to worry about.

 

Keep in mind that this is how Naruto used to behave. Taking on kakashi directly as opposed to hiding during the first bell test. Announcing his presence to everyone during the Zabuza fight and intentionally hopping into Haku's ice barrier. Difference is that Shinachiku is strong enough to get away with that sh-t (initially anyway).

 

I'm hearing people on their wish not to have an invincible protagonist and the way I imagine Shinachiku, he's anything but. In fact, his character development centers around figuring that out and changing for the better. Not all protagonist need to start off weak and end up strong. There are plenty of good manga where the protagonist is strong from the start (e.g. Rurouni Kenshin). It all depends on what the story is about.

[sushi.]

I very much disagree with the flaws mentioned so far. I think they are forced. As people come up with these flaws not because it is natural for the character to have them, but because we don't want him to be a Mary Sue. Shina reminds me of Minato and I don't think he is anymore Mary Sue than him. Shina feeling like he is only loved because he is the perfect child doesn't make sense to me. In my headcanon, his little sister would be the troublemaker/naruto copy, yet she is as loved as him and he knows that. Good parents also don't only show affection to their child when praising them. Good parents don't tuck their kids into bed and read stories for them because they helped with the dishes that day, but because they love them. Any kid with Naruto and Sakura as parents wouldn't develop that kind of self-worth complex connected to them.

 

I think Shina will be very happy with his family, and if they raise him right(which they would), he would have no major internal struggles about his self-worth. If he did, it'd a trauma reaction, and partly the parents' fault since it'd be caused by how they treat him. Doesn't sound like N&S to me. I think his problem would be that since his parents are pretty much legendary, he feels like he must follow in their footsteps. He may feel like they have set up a path for him and would be pressured to take it, but he'd never feel unloved. In the first chapter of Naruto, we know all his goals and dreams. But Shinachiku doesn't know his..maybe he just wants to be the normal kid next door, maybe he becomes famous/legendary without really wanting to, maybe having 2 celeb parents will be difficult for him. He knows that he wants to help and protect people, but he is not as ambitious as his sister. So he has to find himself and what he wants in this world.

[Pix]

 

Indeed, this is pretty much how I see it. Unlike his parents, his talents were pretty much handed to him on a silver spoon. Problem is that he lacks the experiences and maturity that came with acquiring these natural talents and thus is inclined to let it get to his head. Not to mention that he lives an unusual age of peace and prosperity. An age where there isn't much to worry about.

 

Keep in mind that this is how Naruto used to behave. Taking on kakashi directly as opposed to hiding during the first bell test. Announcing his presence to everyone during the Zabuza fight and intentionally hopping into Haku's ice barrier. Difference is that Shinachiku is strong enough to get away with that sh-t (initially anyway).

 

I'm hearing people on their wish not to have an invincible protagonist and the way I imagine Shinachiku, he's anything but. In fact, his character development centers around figuring that out and changing for the better. Not all protagonist need to start off weak and end up strong. There are plenty of good manga where the protagonist is strong from the start (e.g. Rurouni Kenshin). It all depends on what the story is about.

I love this. Also the webtoon Noblesse has two extremely strong protagonists who both carry heavy flaws. I agree that not every story has to start with a weak protagonist, and also I feel as though this type of personality gives Shinachiku way more character than he has now. At the moment, the entire Narusaku fandom is only treating him like their baby, their son, in a parental way. But I feel as though it's time to actually have him develop as a character of his own?  

 

I also think that when it comes to parenting, the parents can't always control what the child does. Which is why no matter how good Sakura and Naruto can be as parental figures, Shinachiku is still going to have issues growing up. In a new environment, new problems show up, right? So Shinachiku won't be lonely like his father was at his age, but instead he'll have to deal with living up to the village's expectations. 

 

Also I think the bratty attitude is more influenced by Sakura's side than Naruto's. Let's not forget Sakura part 1. It took her some time to understand where both Naruto and Sasuke were coming from. And from what we've seen, Sakura still has very god parents and grew up in a nice household. 

[kirabook]

I posted about this on tumblr a while ago, but I figured I should discuss it here.

 

I just extremely dislike flaws that don't make sense. It simply doesn't make sense to me for Shinachiku to grow up with a huge crippling flaw if the world is supposed to be peaceful and Naruto and Sakura are good parents (unless you guys want him to have some kind of mental illness or disability??) Writers and authors really need to consider what might create these flaws and issues, you don't have to go TOO crazy to make a character flawed or interesting. Naruto's issues were creature from being neglected and scroned by his entire village. Sasuke's issues were created from feeling inadequte to impress his father and seeing his entire family murdered by his older brother. Sakura's issues were, I'll admit, partially her own fault, the feeling of being inadequate compared to her teammates because starting off, she was more interested in boys and her hair than becoming a better ninja.

 

In a world where there will still be issues, but is supposedly supposed to be a lot better, Shinachiku's issues will be more like Sakura's level of flaw compared to Naruto or Sasuke's (or Gaara's, or Obito's, or Kakashi's, etc) You can't create such huge flaws without more solid reasonings behind them. I'm sure we all imagine Naruto and Sakura to be loving parents. Why, other than mental or social issues, would Shinachiku develop such LARGE flaws like being obsessed with being loved by people? I'm sure everyone does question ever now and again if people really care about them or not, that's normal. But if it comes to such an extreme obsessive level, either they were traumatized in their childhood, or they have mental issues (among other reasons)

 

I never imagined Shinachiku being too bratty or loud either. His mother is Sakura. Yes, she can be goofy and silly sometimes, but she still has self control. I doubt she'd let Naruto or anyone else spoil Shinachiku to the extent in which he'd be acting out because he couldn't get his way and things like that. Maybe it's possible, but this is just a personal thing I guess.

 

I imagined Shinachiku to be a mixture of both of his parents, coincidentally, yeah, my vision is a lot closer to a Minato type. Confident, but not boastful per say, pretty smart but not neccessarily a genius, pretty nice but cant get quite snarky if the wrong buttons are pressed). Shinachiku's main flaw, the flaw I think would make the most sense, is that he feels as if he's drowning under his parents shadow. He loves his parents, and of course, they love him, but the pressure to be as great as them, or to follow in their footsteps, is large. Shinachiku doesn't desire to be a leader, even if he might have good leadership skills. He just wants to find his own thing, something no one has before, or at least, something his parents haven't. A calm rebellion that can occasionally cause rifts.

 

For example, I can totally imagine Shinachiku introducing himself, but he purposely leaves out his last name because usually people get starry eyed and they'd rather talk about his parents than have an actual conversation with him. Given he's a nice guy, he'll talk about them a little bit, but as mentioned before, he'd probably start to become a little sarcastic and snary by the end of it.

"Ah, I'm Shinachiku...."

"Shinachiku? ... SHINACHIKU? UZUMAKI SHINACHIKU? Aren't your parents Uzumaki Naruto and Haruno Sakura?!"

"Yep, that's them..."

"Wow! That's SO COOL! What are they like?!"

"...."

 

Shinachiku wanting to build himself up and do his own thing with his own hands, it fits one of the original (but forgotten) themes of Naruto, hard work gets you places, birthright doesn't neccessarily mean anything.

 

As for his skills and powerlevels, I really don't think Shinachiku should be a genius starting off. Sure, he probably has a little talent, but his parents are Naruto and Sakura, neither of them started off all that great, not even Sakura despite her book smarts. I think Shinachiku will start off a bit better than them when it comes to training and knowledge, but I also feel that they would let the education system do it's job and teach their son the basics. It's also possible that they'd love to train Shinachiku from time to time, but given he wants to do his own thing, he'd refuse to take too much help from them. (Something that could someday cause misunderstandings that needs to be fixed)

 

Maybe most people find this kind of conflict boring, but I think it fits perfectly into the original manga with themes intact.

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

I posted about this on tumblr a while ago, but I figured I should discuss it here.

 

I just extremely dislike flaws that don't make sense. It simply doesn't make sense to me for Shinachiku to grow up with a huge crippling flaw if the world is supposed to be peaceful and Naruto and Sakura are good parents (unless you guys want him to have some kind of mental illness or disability??) Writers and authors really need to consider what might create these flaws and issues, you don't have to go TOO crazy to make a character flawed or interesting. Naruto's issues were creature from being neglected and scroned by his entire village. Sasuke's issues were created from feeling inadequte to impress his father and seeing his entire family murdered by his older brother. Sakura's issues were, I'll admit, partially her own fault, the feeling of being inadequate compared to her teammates because starting off, she was more interested in boys and her hair than becoming a better ninja.

 

In a world where there will still be issues, but is supposedly supposed to be a lot better, Shinachiku's issues will be more like Sakura's level of flaw compared to Naruto or Sasuke's (or Gaara's, or Obito's, or Kakashi's, etc) You can't create such huge flaws without more solid reasonings behind them. I'm sure we all imagine Naruto and Sakura to be loving parents. Why, other than mental or social issues, would Shinachiku develop such LARGE flaws like being obsessed with being loved by people? I'm sure everyone does question ever now and again if people really care about them or not, that's normal. But if it comes to such an extreme obsessive level, either they were traumatized in their childhood, or they have mental issues (among other reasons)

 

I never imagined Shinachiku being too bratty or loud either. His mother is Sakura. Yes, she can be goofy and silly sometimes, but she still has self control. I doubt she'd let Naruto or anyone else spoil Shinachiku to the extent in which he'd be acting out because he couldn't get his way and things like that. Maybe it's possible, but this is just a personal thing I guess.

 

I imagined Shinachiku to be a mixture of both of his parents, coincidentally, yeah, my vision is a lot closer to a Minato type. Confident, but not boastful per say, pretty smart but not neccessarily a genius, pretty nice but cant get quite snarky if the wrong buttons are pressed). Shinachiku's main flaw, the flaw I think would make the most sense, is that he feels as if he's drowning under his parents shadow. He loves his parents, and of course, they love him, but the pressure to be as great as them, or to follow in their footsteps, is large. Shinachiku doesn't desire to be a leader, even if he might have good leadership skills. He just wants to find his own thing, something no one has before, or at least, something his parents haven't. A calm rebellion that can occasionally cause rifts.

 

For example, I can totally imagine Shinachiku introducing himself, but he purposely leaves out his last name because usually people get starry eyed and they'd rather talk about his parents than have an actual conversation with him. Given he's a nice guy, he'll talk about them a little bit, but as mentioned before, he'd probably start to become a little sarcastic and snary by the end of it.

"Ah, I'm Shinachiku...."

"Shinachiku? ... SHINACHIKU? UZUMAKI SHINACHIKU? Aren't your parents Uzumaki Naruto and Haruno Sakura?!"

"Yep, that's them..."

"Wow! That's SO COOL! What are they like?!"

"...."

 

Shinachiku wanting to build himself up and do his own thing with his own hands, it fits one of the original (but forgotten) themes of Naruto, hard work gets you places, birthright doesn't neccessarily mean anything.

 

As for his skills and powerlevels, I really don't think Shinachiku should be a genius starting off. Sure, he probably has a little talent, but his parents are Naruto and Sakura, neither of them started off all that great, not even Sakura despite her book smarts. I think Shinachiku will start off a bit better than them when it comes to training and knowledge, but I also feel that they would let the education system do it's job and teach their son the basics. It's also possible that they'd love to train Shinachiku from time to time, but given he wants to do his own thing, he'd refuse to take too much help from them. (Something that could someday cause misunderstandings that needs to be fixed)

 

Maybe most people find this kind of conflict boring, but I think it fits perfectly into the original manga with themes intact.

I love your drawings. Can I  request a drawing? 

[Liu bie]

I love your drawings. Can I  request a drawing? 

You have to go to tumblr or deviart, Kira appears each 1 millions of years.

[Pix]

I posted about this on tumblr a while ago, but I figured I should discuss it here.

 

I just extremely dislike flaws that don't make sense. It simply doesn't make sense to me for Shinachiku to grow up with a huge crippling flaw if the world is supposed to be peaceful and Naruto and Sakura are good parents (unless you guys want him to have some kind of mental illness or disability??) Writers and authors really need to consider what might create these flaws and issues, you don't have to go TOO crazy to make a character flawed or interesting. Naruto's issues were creature from being neglected and scroned by his entire village. Sasuke's issues were created from feeling inadequte to impress his father and seeing his entire family murdered by his older brother. Sakura's issues were, I'll admit, partially her own fault, the feeling of being inadequate compared to her teammates because starting off, she was more interested in boys and her hair than becoming a better ninja.

 

In a world where there will still be issues, but is supposedly supposed to be a lot better, Shinachiku's issues will be more like Sakura's level of flaw compared to Naruto or Sasuke's (or Gaara's, or Obito's, or Kakashi's, etc) You can't create such huge flaws without more solid reasonings behind them. I'm sure we all imagine Naruto and Sakura to be loving parents. Why, other than mental or social issues, would Shinachiku develop such LARGE flaws like being obsessed with being loved by people? I'm sure everyone does question ever now and again if people really care about them or not, that's normal. But if it comes to such an extreme obsessive level, either they were traumatized in their childhood, or they have mental issues (among other reasons)

 

I never imagined Shinachiku being too bratty or loud either. His mother is Sakura. Yes, she can be goofy and silly sometimes, but she still has self control. I doubt she'd let Naruto or anyone else spoil Shinachiku to the extent in which he'd be acting out because he couldn't get his way and things like that. Maybe it's possible, but this is just a personal thing I guess.

 

I imagined Shinachiku to be a mixture of both of his parents, coincidentally, yeah, my vision is a lot closer to a Minato type. Confident, but not boastful per say, pretty smart but not neccessarily a genius, pretty nice but cant get quite snarky if the wrong buttons are pressed). Shinachiku's main flaw, the flaw I think would make the most sense, is that he feels as if he's drowning under his parents shadow. He loves his parents, and of course, they love him, but the pressure to be as great as them, or to follow in their footsteps, is large. Shinachiku doesn't desire to be a leader, even if he might have good leadership skills. He just wants to find his own thing, something no one has before, or at least, something his parents haven't. A calm rebellion that can occasionally cause rifts.

 

For example, I can totally imagine Shinachiku introducing himself, but he purposely leaves out his last name because usually people get starry eyed and they'd rather talk about his parents than have an actual conversation with him. Given he's a nice guy, he'll talk about them a little bit, but as mentioned before, he'd probably start to become a little sarcastic and snary by the end of it.

"Ah, I'm Shinachiku...."

"Shinachiku? ... SHINACHIKU? UZUMAKI SHINACHIKU? Aren't your parents Uzumaki Naruto and Haruno Sakura?!"

"Yep, that's them..."

"Wow! That's SO COOL! What are they like?!"

"...."

 

Shinachiku wanting to build himself up and do his own thing with his own hands, it fits one of the original (but forgotten) themes of Naruto, hard work gets you places, birthright doesn't neccessarily mean anything.

 

As for his skills and powerlevels, I really don't think Shinachiku should be a genius starting off. Sure, he probably has a little talent, but his parents are Naruto and Sakura, neither of them started off all that great, not even Sakura despite her book smarts. I think Shinachiku will start off a bit better than them when it comes to training and knowledge, but I also feel that they would let the education system do it's job and teach their son the basics. It's also possible that they'd love to train Shinachiku from time to time, but given he wants to do his own thing, he'd refuse to take too much help from them. (Something that could someday cause misunderstandings that needs to be fixed)

 

Maybe most people find this kind of conflict boring, but I think it fits perfectly into the original manga with themes intact.

I see your point, but I wholeheartedly disagree. But hey, Shinachiku is for everybody right? 

 

At the end of the day, I think a bratty development with Shinachiku still develops properly inside of the world that they live in. For instance now that everything is upgraded technology wise, consider this: 

 

A new breed of ninjas that use cyber attacks instead of traditional fighting. 

 

How will Shinachiku come into terms with that? Especially since Naruto nor Sakura grew up with the huge technological advancements they have now. What if Shinachiku is bratty until he learns that he still doesn't know anything about his own world yet? Or how the world evolves?  

 

Your completely right about the birthright topic though. It doesn't mean anything. And that's what Shinachiku is going to have to understand. 

[Win-chan]

Okay, so first of all, I definitely think that there are multiple legitimate personalities for Shinachiku, but we have to develop them as personalities, not as flaws. I can understand how my post could have been seen as not making sense for Shinachiku because I was only posting about the flaws and not talking about how they relate to entirety of his personality. That's because I have, in my mind, this conception of how Shinachiku is, and only explained the negative aspects of the said personality in the post. I can post the rest of how I see him at a later date, which you guys can all read if you so choose. 

 

"Why, other than mental or social issues, would Shinachiku develop such LARGE flaws like being obsessed with being loved by people? I'm sure everyone does question ever now and again if people really care about them or not, that's normal. But if it comes to such an extreme obsessive level, either they were traumatized in their childhood, or they have mental issues (among other reasons)"

 

"I imagined Shinachiku to be a mixture of both of his parents, coincidentally, yeah, my vision is a lot closer to a Minato type. Confident, but not boastful per say, pretty smart but not neccessarily a genius, pretty nice but cant get quite snarky if the wrong buttons are pressed). Shinachiku's main flaw, the flaw I think would make the most sense, is that he feels as if he's drowning under his parents shadow. He loves his parents, and of course, they love him, but the pressure to be as great as them, or to follow in their footsteps, is large. Shinachiku doesn't desire to be a leader, even if he might have good leadership skills. He just wants to find his own thing, something no one has before, or at least, something his parents haven't. A calm rebellion that can occasionally cause rifts."

 

"As for his skills and powerlevels, I really don't think Shinachiku should be a genius starting off. Sure, he probably has a little talent, but his parents are Naruto and Sakura, neither of them started off all that great, not even Sakura despite her book smarts. I think Shinachiku will start off a bit better than them when it comes to training and knowledge, but I also feel that they would let the education system do it's job and teach their son the basics. It's also possible that they'd love to train Shinachiku from time to time, but given he wants to do his own thing, he'd refuse to take too much help from them. (Something that could someday cause misunderstandings that needs to be fixed)"

 

Anyway, in reply to some of your comments, Kirabook, I just have some responses, I guess. The aspect of Shinachiku and being loved isn't really a flaw. He's just a huge lover, and that's the core of his personality. In essence, everything stems from his desire to have love in his life. It's not because he was deprived of love as a child, but because that's just the way his personality is. I admit, I am basically an expert in this particular personality system which is based off of cores, and that is one of the cores for one of the 9 types. It doesn't mean that you're trying to fill an empty void in your life, but that the most important thing to you and to maintaining your happiness is that you're loved. In addition, most people don't even recognize this core in their personality, so it's not like Shinachiku would constantly be thinking "I just wanna be loved wahhh." It's more along the lines of, "Shinachiku is nice to people because he doesn't like people disliking him, and if he took a moment to think about it, he'd be like 'Oh, I suppose that's true.'" It's a core motivation that relates to lots of actions but isn't something that he's constantly thinking about. Anyway, so if this is your core motivation/desire and you have a life full of love, then you're happy. That's why I think Shinachiku would normally be a happy kid, because he does have that affection in his life. Think of it as a two-edged sword: the desire to love and be loved can be awesome because it makes you a loving, kind person who goes out of their way to do things for people because they're loving and compassionate, but at the same time it can make you act somewhat superficially in almost pleasing people into liking you. So, depending on the time, Shinachiku's emotional health/state, and other factors, that "flaw" would be affected. 

 

Now, Shinachiku's flaw being feeling like he's overshadowed by his parents isn't really a flaw. By that, I mean that it's entirely dependent on the situation and context of the story. Think of it this way. If we took the exact same character and put him in an AU where he grew up where Naruto and Sakura were dead and weren't remembered for being amazing and there was no expectation for him, then what would his flaw be? It wouldn't be there, because it's dependent on the situation regarding his parents. If you extended that to be feelings of inadequacy in general, then in any AU you put him in, then you could have him struggling with that. However, getting at the bare bones of things, feeling overshadowed isn't really the center of the issue. It could be a lot of things. It could stem from a desire to be the best and to make people think he's awesome, but he can't shine on his own because people always think of him as Naruto's son, not Shinachiku. It could stem from the fact that he is insecure in his own skin and the thing that makes him the most insecure is that he's the son of these two amazing people and there's always pressure to be perfect. You see what I mean? When you create a character, you really need to create their personalities without confusing that with situational behavior. I don't know if this is making any sense, haha. But that's what my thoughts are. Oh, and in addition, I have six siblings and we're all entirely different, so there really isn't only "one way" that makes sense for Shinachiku to be. It would make sense for a child with amazing parents to feel like they're drowning under their shadow, but that isn't the only reaction. I have five amazing older siblings and two incredibly smart parents, but I've never compared myself to them and I've never struggled with feelings of inadequacy (it was the type of thing where I would go to school and people would be like, "Ah, another Dalton! I expect great things from you!"). So, it just depends on the person.

 

As far as skills go, I REALLY only could see him as being super amazing because both of his parents are two of the best ninja alive, and since they're both amazing ninja who love their child, they're going to be incredibly supportive of him. Besides, you all say you don't like the naturally gifted stuff, but basically all shonen heroes are naturally gifted. How else could the possibly become so amazing in such a short time? The only reason Naruto didn't progress faster was because he didn't have much support. If he had been raised by Minato and Kushina, I guarantee he would've been in the top of his class. However, when the story begins, we see him progress in the span of about four years from a kid who can't even make a shadow clone to a kid who has mastered sage jutsu and was able to take out someone with the rinnegan all by himself. Sakura, on the other hand, was raised by civilian parents (I think) who wouldn't understand the ninja world and wouldn't have the same expectations or example of what it is like to be a powerful ninja. Therefore, Sakura had to realize on her own what it meant to be a real ninja. She didn't grow up already knowing it. Then when she decided to start taking things seriously, she also progressed incredibly fast. I don't think that a gifted child from the beginning would necessarily make for a boring story. Think Fullmetal Alchemist. You just start your character more talented from the beginning and they still work hard. I think of it like the piano. People who are amazing at the piano when they are older were usually amazing when they children, too. They just continue to get better and better until when they're adults, they're out of this world good. That's how I see Shinachiku. Besides, Naruto already did the whole theme of starting from zero to hero. It's time for something different! (ofc that's just me, I suppose. You can all believe what you want That's the joy/curse of a fanbaby). 

 

So yeah. Basically, there are plenty of different interpretations for Shinachiku! I formed my opinion based on fanarts and stuff, but everyone is entitled to their own interpretation. Y'know what I'm sayin? 

Edited by Win-chan, 22 February 2015 - 02:11 AM.

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

Why is Shinachiku more likeable than Bolt?

[pumyte]

Why is Shinachiku more likeable than Bolt?

Because all the designs, fanfics and etc. were created by fans with love and out of love for series, characters and their otp. Instead of rushing, overworked people (or person) who don't care anymore.

Edited by pumyte, 23 March 2015 - 09:25 PM.

[Nar123]

Because all the designs, fanfics and etc. were created by fans with love and out of love for series, characters and their otp. Instead of rushing, overworked people (or person) who don't care anymore.

 

This answer is such a win

[Broken Figurine]

As I was reading the justification for all the flaws and personality traits, each had their merit. In the hands of a good writer, and the context of the good story they write, any number of these possibilities can exist and be valid. The difference between a fanbaby and a canon baby is that the fan has complete creative control with no guidelines. What is Shinachiku like? What makes him tick? We don't know, and it's hard for fans of something to collectively agree on a character interpretation even with canon material. Look at all the interpretations of Naruto and Sakura, and how their characters vary from fic to fic. 

 

There are some things I personally like in regards to Shinachiku:

• His sister is Momo, my personal headcanon for female baby. 
• He does not end up marrying into Uchiha or Hyuuga bloodline. I don't care for Sasuke in a romantic relationship and I certainly didn't care for his daughter even when it was with a character I loved--same with Hinata. 
• I would rather Ino's child if we have to go off a prominent character, and by being a true friend to the girl or guy and then realizing one day when he's older that he's in love with them. That, or someone from a non-prominent clan like Sakura was because in times of peace there should be more jobs beyond being a ninja. 
• The future has not advanced to laptops because I don't feel like one (young) generation later making a huge modern leap into technology was appealing.

 

Personality and Story:

• I like the idea that he has been taught the values of helping others and that sometimes answers are not always clear, but a path to peaceful resolution is always the ideal. 
• As a young boy, he does not understand that his privilege and peace came at great costs and treats his parents' legacy as something that is both admired and cool, sometimes lamenting that he won't have the chance to prove himself in the same way. He treats being a ninja and war like most children do; cool and something to play around with. In peacetime there aren't may practical applications that would show him the dangers of war.
• As a result of peacetime, children spend more time studying and learning beyond the academy, and new opportunities open up. Shinaku at first doesn't take this as seriously because he wants to follow the footsteps of his parents, especially his father, and misguidedly thinks that being the best ninja means being the best hokage. Part of growing up is realizing that is not the case, and maybe his talents lie elsewhere. 
• In his life, he comes to take on a more spiritual understanding of chakra, and is a more worldly scholar than either of his parents. He learns from many different life lessons, across the different nations, on many philosophical questions.
• He is frequently frustrated by the lack of a concrete answer, and does not share his father's stubborn resolve. He's more inclined to question, and isn't persuaded easily by rhetoric (talk-no-jutsu). Part of learning is that there is no ultimate answer to life's difficult questions, and each different person, monk, leader, nation answers them in various ways.
• His best qualities therefore are that he has an open, but critical mind. He has a sincere drive to help people and be a good person.
• His pitfalls are that he frequently loses motivation, and is conflicted by personal questions on who he is and his role in the world. He has the tendency to overthink topics and become frustrated, or even feel despair. 
• When he is in his youth he is naive and takes things for granted, such as having parents who take such interest in his welfare (he thinks his mother especially is a nag), his opportunity to learn, that he will never have to face the hardships that his parents and people across the world do. In this way, he's a more modern and relatable character without his technology having to reflect that.

Edited by Broken Figurine, 25 March 2015 - 04:03 PM.

[narusakueremika]

The Shinachiku that I had made up in my head was that he is a lot like Minato, which is of course what a lot of people headcanon him to be.

But then I though that maybe due to certain circumstances (living in a time of peace) he should be quite different from his grandfather.

 

Like, yes he is still very calm and collected, and yes he is quite talented (obviously not too talented), but maybe that could be balanced out by the fact that they're living in a time of peace and he doesn't have much experience on the battlefield, maybe he could a bit more apprehensive to injure someone. I don't know I just think that some of the flaws that we have created for him here are not really much of a flaw but more a personality trait we've given him to create more sympathy. 

 

I personally (and I'm sure a lot of you guys want to as well) want to separate him from Bolt as much as possible, and I think a way we could do that is by establishing more of a relationship with his siblings, however many there are (Hanami is my favourite sibling). Unlike Bolt and his sister, who seem to have, from what we've seen, quite a 'happy family' relationship of sorts (with the girl wanting to visit Neji's grave with Bolt), I think more of a one sided relationship on Shinachiku's side would be a little bit less cliché. Like if I was to capture their relationship in one photo, it would be Shinachiku completely oblivious to the fact that he's embarrassing his sibling (Hanami, in my case) in front of their friends because their protective older brother won't leave them alone. 

Edited by narusakueremika, 25 March 2015 - 08:25 PM.

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

Who would be his English voice actor?

[narusakueremika]

Who would be his English voice actor?

what about his japanese voice actor??

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

what about his japanese voice actor??

It would have been Junko.

[narusakueremika]

It would have been Junko.

i would have loved for it to be jun mizuki

[Moon_Girl]

Yeah, it would have to be Junko no matter what. It was what she really wanted anyways... Gotta honor our strongest ally. After all, she has it so bad...having to voice that scumbag in Naruto's skin.