
Naruto Shippuden 364
#121
Posted 06 June 2014 - 05:48 PM
#122
Posted 06 June 2014 - 05:52 PM
Is Okay you already know what the raw says so is doesn't matter.To be honest I think that the only reason why people don't want to see NS despise the evidence as a lot to do with how Naruto pays attention to Sakura, worries about Sakura, defends Sakura but Sakura still hasn't acknowledge him the way they want her to do so they hope Naruto would stop loving Sakura and focus on Hinata.In a way I wish Sakura would stop seeing Naruto and Sasuke in the same light and sometimes worry more about what Sasuke thinks, but not because of that I will wish him to just forget her and worst in favor of Hinata she is too damn selfish.
No, I don't knw what the raw said. PLus, I didn't pay too much attention to what he was saying in the anime and also, I'm not very fluent with japanese speaking, I'm more skilled in the written japanese. So I wonder if the professional subbed version is more accurate than the fansubbed one.
#123
Posted 06 June 2014 - 05:58 PM
I just saw the professional subbed version of the episode on french TV and Naruto said. "Thank you Hinata. I'm proud to have you (in the past tense) by my side."
What do you think of this translation? It doesn't really bother me, but I wonder if it is implying he's proud of having her at this moment or since the beginning, since it is at the past tense, i don't really know how to take it.
Well in the canon he's referring to her being by his side at the present moment Neji to , even so i don't see anything ambiguous in here just because they put "have you" to me it makes no difference because its a common sentence that is used for pointing out having something in the present not the past .
Thinking about it twice, I think it's even more platonic for him to say "I'm proud I had you by my side" rather than "thank you for having been by my side", don't you think?
The first is saying that at one point he had her but now he doesn't also the second its saying more or less the same thing i don't see much difference in the both except the wording itself but yes they are both platonic .
Well Hello I clearly said excluding Hinata since I don't disagree with people who bash her for what she did since I also have problem with her behavior, and worst seeing her attitude towards Naruto big hand despite her cussing body is still laying on the ground.
The fact that I made it clear when I said excluding Hinata it was letting you know that I think highly of someone who is willing to give their life away for someone they love or care about or even a stranger is not a bad thing to me what MinaKushi did was admirable and what Neji did was admirable as well, what Hinata did was stu**d giving away your life away to save someone else is admirable but confessing with out helping the person and throwing your life just because you lost hope and don't want to lose the chance of making the person of your admiration know how much you love him before he dies is is not admireble is st**p and selfish.
Well it seams that we both misunderstood each other in here i wasn't trying to downplay any sacrifice and say that any sacrifice is pointless but to downplay pointless sacrifices that have no meaning i hope i'm clear with this so again i'm sorry and agree with the above XD .

" I am the sword in the darkness. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the shield that guards the realms of men. I pledge my life and honor to the Night's Watch, for this night and all the nights to come."
#124
Posted 06 June 2014 - 06:37 PM
Well in the canon he's referring to her being by his side at the present moment Neji to , even so i don't see anything ambiguous in here just because they put "have you" to me it makes no difference because its a common sentence that is used for pointing out having something in the present not the past .
The first is saying that at one point he had her but now he doesn't also the second its saying more or less the same thing i don't see much difference in the both except the wording itself but yes they are both platonic .
Well it seams that we both misunderstood each other in here i wasn't trying to downplay any sacrifice and say that any sacrifice is pointless but to downplay pointless sacrifices that have no meaning i hope i'm clear with this so again i'm sorry and agree with the above XD .
The difference is the "I'm proud" rather than "thank you". And in the french sentence, he uses the past, but I wasn't sure how to word it in english. He says "je suis fier de t'avoir eu à mes côtés" "I'm proud you have been by my side". I think it's even clearer that he meant to thank her for being there for him and not like reconizing her feelings or I don't even know how NH fans can see this sentence as romantic. I don't know, I see a difference, but I have a hard time to word my thought. To me it's more platonic, but perhaps, I don't word it very well in english.
Edited by 咲耶姫, 06 June 2014 - 06:40 PM.
#125
Posted 06 June 2014 - 06:40 PM
foreign dubbing doesn't matter. Besides the original audio is identical to volume version... "No proud" there
俺は天才バスケットマン桜木花道。
"I'm the Basketball genius, Hanamichi Sakuragi"
#126
Posted 06 June 2014 - 06:42 PM
foreign dubbing doesn't matter. Besides the original audio is identical to volume version... "No proud" there
Thank you, I should have know it. Since some years now, french translators sucks especially for the anime. I hope they will correct their mistake for the volume version, but I doubt it.
#127
Posted 06 June 2014 - 07:05 PM
No, I don't knw what the raw said. PLus, I didn't pay too much attention to what he was saying in the anime and also, I'm not very fluent with japanese speaking, I'm more skilled in the written japanese. So I wonder if the professional subbed version is more accurate than the fansubbed one.
Sorry I thought you understood everything they said in the Anime.
Edit
Why SasuNaru NH and SS always feel the needs to be posting there pairing or Anti NS stuff under the NS tag.
Is an habit for me to check whats new on DA at lease two or three times a day, but each time I go I see less NaruSaku art, Doujin or fanfic and more Pro SS, pro NH, Pro SasuNaru and a lot of Anti NS.
Are the pairing fans really getting that desperate that they need to constantly attack their rival group?
Edited by Don-kun, 06 June 2014 - 07:19 PM.
#128
Posted 06 June 2014 - 07:14 PM
The difference is the "I'm proud" rather than "thank you". And in the french sentence, he uses the past, but I wasn't sure how to word it in english. He says "je suis fier de t'avoir eu à mes côtés" "I'm proud you have been by my side". I think it's even clearer that he meant to thank her for being there for him and not like reconizing her feelings or I don't even know how NH fans can see this sentence as romantic. I don't know, I see a difference, but I have a hard time to word my thought. To me it's more platonic, but perhaps, I don't word it very well in english.
I think the correct translation that you are trying to provide from that French translation to English would be " I'm proud having you by my side " or "I'm proud to have you by my side" the trouble you have is with correctly translating this particular word " t'avoir " since this can be translated in English as : to have/had/having you or to have been . Either way they messed up like @六道仙人 said since there was no "proud" in the RAW you should know this more the me LOL XD but like i said its no romantic at all its very platonic and its referring more to the present then the past .

" I am the sword in the darkness. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the shield that guards the realms of men. I pledge my life and honor to the Night's Watch, for this night and all the nights to come."
#129
Posted 06 June 2014 - 07:48 PM
Why SasuNaru NH and SS always feel the needs to be posting there pairing or Anti NS stuff under the NS tag.
Is an habit for me to check whats new on DA at lease two or three times a day, but each time I go I see less NaruSaku art, Doujin or fanfic and more Pro SS, pro NH, Pro SasuNaru and a lot of Anti NS.
Are the pairing fans really getting that desperate that they need to constantly attack their rival group?
It has been like that since forever just not at same level as now that is it has been like this since 631 and with the recent chapters oh brother the desperation and denial is to great Tumblr is mess from the NH & SS fans they bash and invade the NS tag and then they are playing the "victims" i don't know what to say about this really its insane but this is what i like to call the denial stage so don't know this whole thing is a mess .

" I am the sword in the darkness. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the shield that guards the realms of men. I pledge my life and honor to the Night's Watch, for this night and all the nights to come."
#130
Posted 06 June 2014 - 09:45 PM
Well they did call us zombies...
Ironic, because Hinata will become one if Team 7 don't stop the tree.
yeah and some thinl the dream world is good rather then bad
#131
Posted 07 June 2014 - 03:59 PM
You know it's true.When Sakura waited before piercing Obito's eye, all the fans were bashing her because she did something supposedely dumb, or she took too much time to decide.
But hey, Hinata is dumb too in this scene.
The problem is that they don't think about Kishimoto.
He just did it this way because he needed to kill Neji and about Sakura he needed that Rinnegan to not be destroyed... that's all.
No need to bash charaters.
What I hate about this fandom is that's Sakura that gets all the hate every kittening time.
The thing with Sakura is stupid. Because it was obvious that Sakura wasn't going to destroy the Rinnegan, Madara was going to get his eye back. So to bash Sakura for that is stupid. Even if it was Naruto or Kakashi or Sasuke in Sakura's position, the Rinnegan wasn't going to be destroyed.
Why this site pays so much attention to what the other side fans says or think? It's normarl for them to say or think the way they do since they love NH what isn't normal is how much time pairing fan spend thinking on what the NS, NH or SS camp thinks.
I don't really pay much attention to them anymore, I used to. However I already know what they're going to say before they even say it. That's how predictable they are.
First how is attempting to commit suicide for someone is a sign of love that's utterly disgusting and i would never praise Sakura for doing that nor want her to do that that's a very bold statement to say that many of us would have enjoyed if Sakura was in her place hell no Hinata can keep this because this is not Sakura trowing her life pointlessly playing a meat shield NO! Sakura would think of a solution how to save him without getting herself killed and would do anything in her power to do that like @Nostradamus said i'm glad that the Sakura saving Naruto moments aren't like that and i appreciate Sakura working doing everything in her power to Save Naruto this is so more beautiful to me then trowing your life pointlessly without thinking . All Hinata does is playing a meat shield instead thinking of another way that she could help like in the Pain arc it did more damage than good Kishi even put Sakura criticize her for doing that how can i praise her for this ?
I will give her the speech thing even though it was forced but in the end even that didn't woke up Naruto it was actually Kurama .
I can literary describe her character in two sentences "playing a meat shield and Naruto kun " especially the Naruto kun she's so obsessed with him that she forgets about anything and everything(like you pointed it out she give Neji so little attention) and makes her do stupid things without thinking to me her character is a disaster and i would put it at Sasuke's level mind you this has nothing to do with me being a NS fan but with how the character is written .
I'm sure you have your reasons to like her character and i'm not condemning you for that but to me it's an utter disaster no offense.
I have to agree and disagree with you. You see like I said I have no problem with people that chose to sacrifice themselves for others. That is honorable thing to do. And it should be applauded and admired.
For example if in the next chapters Naruto is in danger and the only thing Sakura can do to save him is to jump in front of the attack. Then she should do that, and I would admire her for that. But that's really it, IF it's the only thing she can do.
To give up your life for someone else is an amazing thing, however it's should be done only if that's your only option to save that person. If you can do something else to save that person then do that.
If Hinata would've jumped in front of the attack from 614 because it was the only thing she could do. Then I would admire her and praise her.
But that's not what she did.
I just saw the professional subbed version of the episode on french TV and Naruto said. "Thank you Hinata. I'm proud to have you (in the past tense) by my side."
What do you think of this translation? It doesn't really bother me, but I wonder if it is implying he's proud of having her at this moment or since the beginning, since it is at the past tense, i don't really know how to take it.
I'm waiting for the Taka subs. I'm curious to see how they translate it. Even though it could take about 10 weeks from now, considering how slow they are.
Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.
#132
Posted 07 June 2014 - 04:38 PM
I have to agree and disagree with you. You see like I said I have no problem with people that chose to sacrifice themselves for others. That is honorable thing to do. And it should be applauded and admired.
For example if in the next chapters Naruto is in danger and the only thing Sakura can do to save him is to jump in front of the attack. Then she should do that, and I would admire her for that. But that's really it, IF it's the only thing she can do.
To give up your life for someone else is an amazing thing, however it's should be done only if that's your only option to save that person. If you can do something else to save that person then do that.
If Hinata would've jumped in front of the attack from 614 because it was the only thing she could do. Then I would admire her and praise her.
But that's not what she did.
Oh no I very much agree with you on this Like i said to @Don-Kun what i was trying to say was about pointless sacrifice/suicide like in Hinata's case perhaps i should have worded it more clearly/properly so again sorry about that either way i very much agree with what you said above .

" I am the sword in the darkness. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the shield that guards the realms of men. I pledge my life and honor to the Night's Watch, for this night and all the nights to come."
#133
Posted 07 June 2014 - 05:19 PM
Oh no I very much agree with you on this Like i said to @Don-Kun what i was trying to say was about pointless sacrifice/suicide like in Hinata's case perhaps i should have worded it more clearly/properly so again sorry about that either way i very much agree with what you said above .
There's no need for you to say you're sorry.
Anyway I'm glad this episode was animated. Now we have to endure a little longer for Hashirama's bedtime story, and then the actions kicks in.
Edit. About Taka, I spoke to soon. They're closing down. Taka is no more.
Edited by Nostradamus, 07 June 2014 - 06:16 PM.
Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.
#134
Posted 07 June 2014 - 06:37 PM
The thing is he already knew all of that he had the resolve and i made him look like a dumbass who doesn't know what he's talking about .
The point of Neji's death was to make Nartuo accept that people are willing to die for him. Naruto has never been okay with one throwing their life away and being okay with, after all life is precious to Naruto. Before that when ever he thought a friend died he went Nine tailed rage mode. Neji helped him realize that his life didn't just belong to him. He's not happy Neji is dead , but he now has grown a philosophy for it, and he wont be going in to any sort of rage mode from now on.
What was the point of Pain challenging him then ?
The point of the Pain arc wasn't about Naruto accepting people will die for him, it was that there is no easy way to gain true peace. Before fighting Pain Naruto would of just tried hard to to get his goal accomplished. Pain forced him to accept that its more complicated than he was making it out to be. That made him forced to accept what the chain of Hatred is and why true peace is something against the very nature of humanity. Nagato taught Naruto how pain, revenge and hatered was like.
What was the point of him facing reality then and there and coming with and answer for Pain to trust in him that he will never waver in his path ?
This hasn't to do with anything about being okay with someone dying in front your eyes let alone accepting the horrors of war.
It was basically the same thing and yet Hinata knew this who has never faced with this but Naruto didn't when he already experienced that with Kakashi and Jiraiya being dead and the whole village being destroyed ?
Hinata was speaking for Neji and the alliance because that's how they all felt. Naruto was never taught to cope with loss in the Pain arc, Nagato said it was one of the trails he will face in the future which he did. Their is also the the fact that hearing about a death and seeing one happen right in front of you is a huge difference. Since he only heard about Jiraya and Kakshi's Neji he saw in all its gory detail. Not to mention any loss Naruto could of suffered with lose was stopped when Nagato brought back Kakshi and everyone in the village back to life. So at the time Naruto didn't have try and find a philosophy to deal with losing them. The war is another stroy, this time no one is coming back and he practically lead all the ninja in the battlefield that died to their deaths. Which made him feel responsible for them and something Obito mocked him for doing so.
Sorry but its crap and it made everything he learned till now and in the Pain arc pointless .
The point of the pain arc was to challenge his ideals not loss. He had to make his ideals work in such a harsh reality.
Edited by BlueStarSaber, 07 June 2014 - 06:38 PM.
#135
Posted 07 June 2014 - 09:23 PM
The point of Neji's death was to make Nartuo accept that people are willing to die for him. Naruto has never been okay with one throwing their life away and being okay with, after all life is precious to Naruto. Before that when ever he thought a friend died he went Nine tailed rage mode. Neji helped him realize that his life didn't just belong to him. He's not happy Neji is dead , but he now has grown a philosophy for it, and he wont be going in to any sort of rage mode from now on.
The point of the Pain arc wasn't about Naruto accepting people will die for him, it was that there is no easy way to gain true peace. Before fighting Pain Naruto would of just tried hard to to get his goal accomplished. Pain forced him to accept that its more complicated than he was making it out to be. That made him forced to accept what the chain of Hatred is and why true peace is something against the very nature of humanity. Nagato taught Naruto how pain, revenge and hatered was like.
This hasn't to do with anything about being okay with someone dying in front your eyes let alone accepting the horrors of war.
Hinata was speaking for Neji and the alliance because that's how they all felt. Naruto was never taught to cope with loss in the Pain arc, Nagato said it was one of the trails he will face in the future which he did. Their is also the the fact that hearing about a death and seeing one happen right in front of you is a huge difference. Since he only heard about Jiraya and Kakshi's Neji he saw in all its gory detail. Not to mention any loss Naruto could of suffered with lose was stopped when Nagato brought back Kakshi and everyone in the village back to life. So at the time Naruto didn't have try and find a philosophy to deal with losing them. The war is another stroy, this time no one is coming back and he practically lead all the ninja in the battlefield that died to their deaths. Which made him feel responsible for them and something Obito mocked him for doing so.
The point of the pain arc was to challenge his ideals not loss. He had to make his ideals work in such a harsh reality.
I very well understand what his death meant the way all of that was executed was kitten and forced as hell . Naruto also wasn't going to go rage because he dealt with that before the war started the "waterfall of true and him siding with Kurama".
The point of the Pain arc was also learning to deal with the loss of someone precious to him do not diminish this and say that the point of the Pain arc was just him learning about what revenge,pain, and hatred is it was also Naruto learning to deal with the loss of someone who was very precious to him someone who he very much loved and was closer to him then Neji ever was and come even stronger from it this is were Shikamaru's comment comes in were he tells Naruto that he needs to men up and get over it that he's not a kid anymore . Further more when he learned that Kakshi died Naruto didn't doubt himself and yet Kakashi was someone who was precious to Naruto on the level of Jiraiya Naruto stayed strong here he didn't waver in his resolve to continue to protect what was important to him .
OK the underlined are you even kidding me in here ? Naruto wasn't thought to cope with a loss ? What was Jiraiya then some nobody to him what was those tears he cried for him ? His freaking heart break so much that even Iruka and Shikamaru had to intervene . You again diminish here Jiraiya influence on Naruto like he meant nothing to him just because he didn't see him dying while he didn't see him dying Naruto felt when Jiraiya died that speaks volumes about the connection he had with him and it was the first time dealing with a loss his parents doesn't count since he was a baby then . Also Naruto when he arrived knew that people had died and that it was caused by Pain who was there for him but despite knowing that he continued to fight because he had to he had no idea that those people would be brought back bringing them later back doesn't erase this in the slightest .
Also if i may point out Naruto has been seeing comrades falling in this war one after another but suddenly Neji dies and everything is over that he didn't realize the meaning of what a comrade is despite saying the word comrade ? I mean he made him say i won't let any of my comrades get killed despite many dying in front of him before that How is this not stupid ? Kishimoto just f**cked up in here and made him look like the biggest idiot the world has ever seen .
The point of the Pein arc was both challenging his ideals and dealing with a loss .
Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 07 June 2014 - 09:31 PM.

" I am the sword in the darkness. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the shield that guards the realms of men. I pledge my life and honor to the Night's Watch, for this night and all the nights to come."
#136
Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:03 AM
I very well understand what his death meant the way all of that was executed was kitten and forced as hell . Naruto also wasn't going to go rage because he dealt with that before the war started the "waterfall of true and him siding with Kurama".
The point of the Pain arc was also learning to deal with the loss of someone precious to him do not diminish this and say that the point of the Pain arc was just him learning about what revenge,pain, and hatred is it was also Naruto learning to deal with the loss of someone who was very precious to him someone who he very much loved and was closer to him then Neji ever was and come even stronger from it this is were Shikamaru's comment comes in were he tells Naruto that he needs to men up and get over it that he's not a kid anymore . Further more when he learned that Kakshi died Naruto didn't doubt himself and yet Kakashi was someone who was precious to Naruto on the level of Jiraiya Naruto stayed strong here he didn't waver in his resolve to continue to protect what was important to him .
OK the underlined are you even kidding me in here ? Naruto wasn't thought to cope with a loss ? What was Jiraiya then some nobody to him what was those tears he cried for him ? His freaking heart break so much that even Iruka and Shikamaru had to intervene . You again diminish here Jiraiya influence on Naruto like he meant nothing to him just because he didn't see him dying while he didn't see him dying Naruto felt when Jiraiya died that speaks volumes about the connection he had with him and it was the first time dealing with a loss his parents doesn't count since he was a baby then . Also Naruto when he arrived knew that people had died and that it was caused by Pain who was there for him but despite knowing that he continued to fight because he had to he had no idea that those people would be brought back bringing them later back doesn't erase this in the slightest .
Also if i may point out Naruto has been seeing comrades falling in this war one after another but suddenly Neji dies and everything is over that he didn't realize the meaning of what a comrade is despite saying the word comrade ? I mean he made him say i won't let any of my comrades get killed despite many dying in front of him before that How is this not stupid ? Kishimoto just f**cked up in here and made him look like the biggest idiot the world has ever seen .
The point of the Pein arc was both challenging his ideals and dealing with a loss .
While I do say it could of been done better however it did fit the counting presence of death Mr Kishimoto had been doing with the chapters. While he may not go fox mode in rage anymore he could acted recklessly if he got to caught up in anger and any other emotions.
Fine I'd forgot Jiraiya's loss. However While Neji isn't as a strong connection as jiraiya he was still apart of the K11 his first age group of friends besides team 7 and none of them died before he is bound to react very strongly to one of them losing their lives. While he did learn to cope with Jiraiya as you say, he still yet learn that his friends are willing to fight and die from him. He has always felt that he should deal with the foes, it was not until Itachi told Naruto to not go it alone and when Hinata and Kurama told him that people will die for him that he finally learnt to not go it alone. Cause while he din't lose it when Kakashi and so many other died it all build up until Pain did the finally straw when he fought Hinata died he went beast mode cause he didn't cope. While he didn't know they would come back however when they did this gave him he chance not to deal with lose on a grand scale, the war not so much since no one is coming back.
While he has had comrades die before in the war but at the time he did not make the promise "I while not let any of my friends die!" and what happen when the alliance arrived, his friends and allies ended up dying. He pretty much broke his vow he let friends die something he doesn't handle well at first. While foolish thing to claim in a war, this event taught him whether he likes or not his friends are willing to die for him and he can't always save them but as long he keeps them in his heart they won't go away.
Edited by BlueStarSaber, 08 June 2014 - 12:08 AM.
#137
Posted 08 June 2014 - 02:34 AM
#138
Posted 08 June 2014 - 02:36 PM
While I do say it could of been done better however it did fit the counting presence of death Mr Kishimoto had been doing with the chapters. While he may not go fox mode in rage anymore he could acted recklessly if he got to caught up in anger and any other emotions.
Fine I'd forgot Jiraiya's loss. However While Neji isn't as a strong connection as jiraiya he was still apart of the K11 his first age group of friends besides team 7 and none of them died before he is bound to react very strongly to one of them losing their lives. While he did learn to cope with Jiraiya as you say, he still yet learn that his friends are willing to fight and die from him. He has always felt that he should deal with the foes, it was not until Itachi told Naruto to not go it alone and when Hinata and Kurama told him that people will die for him that he finally learnt to not go it alone. Cause while he din't lose it when Kakashi and so many other died it all build up until Pain did the finally straw when he fought Hinata died he went beast mode cause he didn't cope. While he didn't know they would come back however when they did this gave him he chance not to deal with lose on a grand scale, the war not so much since no one is coming back.
While he has had comrades die before in the war but at the time he did not make the promise "I while not let any of my friends die!" and what happen when the alliance arrived, his friends and allies ended up dying. He pretty much broke his vow he let friends die something he doesn't handle well at first. While foolish thing to claim in a war, this event taught him whether he likes or not his friends are willing to die for him and he can't always save them but as long he keeps them in his heart they won't go away.
I'm not saying that he shouldn't have react with sorrow,grieve what i'm saying is that he shouldn't have display signs of him giving up like everything is all over him doubting himself this is OOC Naruto . Itachi's speech has nothing to do with him accepting that people will die but with him not doing everything alone and to trust his comrades which Naruto listened to him and did that right after their encounter even when the alliance arrived at the their battlefield , The Neji thing was different it wasn't that . The problem lies in here with this line that Kishimoto has set it up "I won't let any of my friends/comrades die" this is just ridiculous and makes him look retarded making this promise in the first place when he already has witnessed his comrades dying is what's ridiculous and stupid in the first place i would have no problem accepting the events if this line wasn't even present it also made Naruto not understanding the meaning of the word comrades what comrades are despite saying i have my comrades with me all the time this imo just doesn't both well . I will agree that Naruto didn't face this on a grand scale more or less despite the events of the Pain arc just because he didn't see the dead people with his own eyes but he could have still sensed them like he did with Kakashi but Naruto in here remained calm and focused on the task he was strong despite him not liking what has happened he didn't wavered in his resolve to defeat Pain .
The underlined . I don't have a problem with the message that is being sent and of course that nobody likes seeing his friends dying for them like i said the problem is with the execution how it was set up and done it didn't have to make him look like an idiot so i will agree to disagree in here .

" I am the sword in the darkness. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the shield that guards the realms of men. I pledge my life and honor to the Night's Watch, for this night and all the nights to come."
#139
Posted 08 June 2014 - 02:40 PM
There's no need for you to say you're sorry.
Anyway I'm glad this episode was animated. Now we have to endure a little longer for Hashirama's bedtime story, and then the actions kicks in.
Edit. About Taka, I spoke to soon. They're closing down. Taka is no more.
Oh men i don't think a can watch that speech without puking my guts out . Its a god thing i stooped watching the Anime i guess but i think i will continue from 631 will see LOL XD.
BTW remind me who were Taka and why are they closing ?

" I am the sword in the darkness. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the shield that guards the realms of men. I pledge my life and honor to the Night's Watch, for this night and all the nights to come."
#140
Posted 08 June 2014 - 03:08 PM
Oh men i don't think a can watch that speech without puking my guts out
. Its a god thing i stooped watching the Anime i guess but i think i will continue from 631 will see LOL XD.
BTW remind me who were Taka and why are they closing ?
They are the old Dattebayo group that subbed the Naruto anime as well as others. Later they changed their name to Taka.
They are the guys that do proper translations, they're not biased towards anyone. They do hard subs, meaning the subtitles are part of the video and you can't get rid of them.
What I liked about them is not only the fact, that they're not biased. It's also the fact that if they make a mistake, they admit it and re-upload the video with the correct translation. They even do subbing for the songs in the opening and ending. They're basically the best when it comes to subs for Naruto along with other anime they sub.
Now why they're closing well they said it's because of personal reasons.
This is their website: http://www.takafansubs.com/
One thing I forgot to mention. Apparently one or more members of Taka formed another group called "Kurama" and now they started to continue the subs for Naruto. However I wasn't able to find any proof if that's true or not.
Edited by Nostradamus, 08 June 2014 - 03:14 PM.
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