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[BakeNeko-Chan]

nope not me. http://k1deki.devian...55988856&qo=511

 

Oh I see, thanks!

[Hanabi]

 

Oh I see, thanks!

welcome! :)

[TouKen4Life3g]

 
That's anorher thing.  What is this "attack form"?  the freshadow of another form proves this attack won't work.  As a shonen, we have to see all the abilities to the antagonist.  Freeza couldn't die until after we saw all four of his forms, making that fight, so incredibly drawn out.  Plus, I agree with what you said earlier that Naruto has to know Obito's story.  His empathy isn't specific to just his allies but his enemies to, especially if they were related in someway to another person he knows:  Jiraiya-Nagato, Kakashi-Obito.  That talk has to come in a way, for Obito's story arc to be close to complete.  With Sasuke, he really would care less, so if Kishimoto could somehow take him out of the picture for a while, I wouldn't mind.  I wonder if Obito will bring up Konan, and how he killed her.  Another conversation about Nagato, and in turn Konan is due to happen in my opinion, because Naruto really needs to know what happened to her. 

Well, it's just that he was defending himself and tree but the situation is changing so now he will have to start killing them, but first dealing with Naruto. I believe the reason why this moment is happening now is because I feel that the upcoming chapters could be annihilation and Naruto might be playing the role "Get up!" What I mean is that when the protagonist is down, he/she would struggle to get up because he/she is their last hope. He holds senjutsu, Sasuke can't literally do it alone. Naruto is down, it's all over.

So I think the middle of the volume could be the dark side of this volume as people are going to get annihilated. There's a reason why we saw the event of them before shifting back Obito and Naruto. To make it obvious, Naruto and Sasuke are claiming to end it now. Chapter 4 is next and it's almost guaranteed to fail. I do believe they can hurt him but taken down is not going to happen. Honestly, they should go the route where Naruto just keeps trying to get up as he watches everyone getting attacked. It's not meant for him to change his mind, but rather must get up and win the war before everyone won't see another day. Time will tell if the next chapter would be a hit or miss (literally).

Obito is only continuing on the frustration route. He wants answer, but now, he should get an answer that connects to him. So pretty much, if Naruto wins, he will just die. If Naruto wins after understanding, he will die with a proper closure. It's like a video game, where if you don't build up a meter to have an extra choice, then you'll get an alternative route. 7 chapters left and that's a lot to unfold.

[Psychox]

Great chapter!

 

I wonder what the "Love will turn to hate" is refering to..

 

The obvious sasuke betrayal but i think there is going to be some shock betrayals, maybe one of the k11???

 

Referring to a song from an Metallica album . Harvester of sorrow to be precise.
 

 

The action in this chapter wasn't bad, but I was a bit annoyed with Naruto's answer to Obito.  So his answer for continuing to fight is simply that he doesn't give up (even though he was ready to do so in 615)?  I was expecting him to answer that he was fighting for all the people who believed in him, or something along those lines, but oh well.

 

There's also the fact that once Naruto said, "because that's my ninja way," I immediately thought of Hinata and connected it to her standing up during her fight with Neji :- /  I don't think its a hint for NaruHina or anything silly like that, it just made an already underwhelming answer slightly more irritating to me.

 

Well, he is the hero so,its natural to not give up , plus there is that fact that is his ninja way 615 was pure fan service not to mention extremely pandering to the fans . >.<  I didn't get that chapter everything was so forced and came out of nowhere .HInata could've protected Naruto like she did the first time around ,but then she turns her back instead of doing something else. x_x
 

 

No one has any thoughts or comments about the fusion concept with Katsuyu? In theory it seems like it would be a very powerful upgrade to have since you would have the strength of the entire slug species from Shikkotsurin at your disposal.
 

 

Its a nice theory to be fair, though we need more clues how it works with Slugs. We know Naruto could/can fuse with Pa and Ma being attached on his back or his shoulders.But if Katsuyu is such a big slug and can brake apart so to say to so many tiny segments ,would it be needed just one slug (which is hard to believe) or more to achieve SSM?

[StriderC]

Can you actually blame them? that chapter was rather terrible for Sakura, if I do say so myself. Instead of using the occasion to close the gap between her and Tsunade, Kishi widened it instead. It felt completely nonsensical from a story telling viewpoint.

The thing is for me is that, how can one pinpoint the gap between she and Tsunade when Tsunade pretty much finished the job AFTER she and Naruto had saved him from dying.

Sakura/Naruto- saved his life

Tsunade-restored his chakra

I wonder where Sakura stands when being compared to Tsunade. I'm sure she's not far behind, and considering her age and her current feats, she's quite the young disciple.

If Tsunade had actually saved him and restored his chakra for Sakura, then I'd be like WTF. lol

[Hanabi]

The thing is for me is that, how can one pinpoint the gap between she and Tsunade when Tsunade pretty much finished the job AFTER she and Naruto had saved him from dying.

Sakura/Naruto- saved his life

Tsunade-restored his chakra

I wonder where Sakura stands when being compared to Tsunade. I'm sure she's not far behind, and considering her age and her current feats, she's quite the young disciple.

If Tsunade had actually saved him and restored his chakra for Sakura, then I'd be like WTF. lol

i know! facepalm so hard when i see people say 'sakura did nothing'.

[StriderC]

i know! facepalm so hard when i see people say 'sakura did nothing'.

Meh, I saw comments trying to downplay what she did while browinsg other sites. I'm honestly not even surprised at this point. People are gonna try to dismiss/downplay anything Sakura related. No matter how ridiculous it may be.

[Chatte]

Regarding the last chapter, Naruto and Sakura saved Shikamaru's life, period. If you notice, Sakura stops just because Shikamaru wanted to stand, but who is to say that if he would still have sit still, she wouldn't have healed him completely and even replenish his chakra? (She does tell Shikamaru not to move or speak but apparently he didn't listened] And when he was on his way to stand, BAM, Tsunade appears and quickly replenishes his chakra via chakra transfer [which she facilitated before with Onoki's jinton, so is no asspull]. Sakura could've done the same thing, but it's just that Tsunade intervened, that's all.

So as the current situation tells us, they're equals in terms of strength/jutsus.

Now the only part remaining it's the surpassing.

Edited by Chatte, 08 October 2013 - 05:56 PM.

[milan kyuubi]

If the water is directly linked to Suigetsu then wouldn't that inadvertently poison Suigetsu as well?

 

That would be the point, right. She would win very easily

[DattebayoXShannaro]

Well, it's just that he was defending himself and tree but the situation is changing so now he will have to start killing them, but first dealing with Naruto. I believe the reason why this moment is happening now is because I feel that the upcoming chapters could be annihilation and Naruto might be playing the role "Get up!" What I mean is that when the protagonist is down, he/she would struggle to get up because he/she is their last hope. He holds senjutsu, Sasuke can't literally do it alone. Naruto is down, it's all over.

So I think the middle of the volume could be the dark side of this volume as people are going to get annihilated. There's a reason why we saw the event of them before shifting back Obito and Naruto. To make it obvious, Naruto and Sasuke are claiming to end it now. Chapter 4 is next and it's almost guaranteed to fail. I do believe they can hurt him but taken down is not going to happen. Honestly, they should go the route where Naruto just keeps trying to get up as he watches everyone getting attacked. It's not meant for him to change his mind, but rather must get up and win the war before everyone won't see another day. Time will tell if the next chapter would be a hit or miss (literally).

Obito is only continuing on the frustration route. He wants answer, but now, he should get an answer that connects to him. So pretty much, if Naruto wins, he will just die. If Naruto wins after understanding, he will die with a proper closure. It's like a video game, where if you don't build up a meter to have an extra choice, then you'll get an alternative route. 7 chapters left and that's a lot to unfold.

 

With the Alliance hyped up again.  It's bound to happen that way.  The tree isn't going to get cut down with Madara basically waiting.  If he feels they are putting up significant interference, he will intervene.  As you said, Obito may shift his focus to try to eliminate everyone again.  Even though, the alliance has their spirits up, the situation is any less grim than what it was, just that they are wiling to fight to the end.  Another knock back down to the aliiiance is possibly imminent.  Obito will defintely keep his eyes on Naruto because he is the variable to the whole thing. He can't predict Naruto's actions or fathom what drives him this far. 

 

Kakashi this chapter revals how Obito is looking for an answer from Naruto, so he won't just die without closure.  That's why I feel it's best if Sasuke was knocked out for awhile till we get that closure to Obito's character, because he won't wait and listen to some sob story, he'd want Obito to die immediately.  Plus the Juubi is still linked to Obito, so if he dies, the Juubi dies, along with the Bijuu still inside.  Naruto already plans not to kill Obito until he gets a solution on how to release the other Bijuu from him.  They will have time to talk.  That's when a situation simlar to Nagato at the end of the Pain arc might happen where Naruto learns and understands Obito.

[TouKen4Life3g]

 
With the Alliance hyped up again.  It's bound to happen that way.  The tree isn't going to get cut down with Madara basically waiting.  If he feels they are putting up significant interference, he will intervene.  As you said, Obito may shift his focus to try to eliminate everyone again.  Even though, the alliance has their spirits up, the situation is any less grim than what it was, just that they are wiling to fight to the end.  Another knock back down to the aliiiance is possibly imminent.  Obito will defintely keep his eyes on Naruto because he is the variable to the whole thing. He can't predict Naruto's actions or fathom what drives him this far. 
 
Kakashi this chapter revals how Obito is looking for an answer from Naruto, so he won't just die without closure.  That's why I feel it's best if Sasuke was knocked out for awhile till we get that closure to Obito's character, because he won't wait and listen to some sob story, he'd want Obito to die immediately.  Plus the Juubi is still linked to Obito, so if he dies, the Juubi dies, along with the Bijuu still inside.  Naruto already plans not to kill Obito until he gets a solution on how to release the other Bijuu from him.  They will have time to talk.  That's when a situation simlar to Nagato at the end of the Pain arc might happen where Naruto learns and understands Obito.

Agreed. The only question is how the talk starts and what content would Naruto provide to Obito to understand everything he meant. Naruto has already talked about his friends, his priority, his dream and why he won't back down. But none of them changed Obito, none of them give him that shock look rather more frustrated. So that's what I'm wondering about everything. Naruto has not talk to him personally meaning he could address his side of story. Well, we could only wait.

[sushi.]

Did anyone here actually like Naruto's answer to Obito?

 

I didn't. It's just way too simplistic. Naruto did not show understanding of this whole conflict that has been going on since forever, and he's the one who'll supposedly find the answer. His answer to Nagato was much better.

 

Why don't you give up Naruto?

..Cuz...that's my ninjaway!

 

It's more complicated than your ninjaway Naruto, your ninjaway is not the answer for everything.

[BakeNeko-Chan]

Did anyone here actually like Naruto's answer to Obito?

 

I didn't. It's just way too simplistic. Naruto did not show understanding of this whole conflict that has been going on since forever, and he's the one who'll supposedly find the answer. His answer to Nagato was much better.

 

Why don't you give up Naruto?

..Cuz...that's my ninjaway!

 

It's more complicated than your ninjaway Naruto, your ninjaway is not the answer for everything.

 

I didn't like it either. It's just... underwhelming. 'That's it, that's the best you can come up with?'   Surely Naruto must be able to see that the situation is so much bigger than that, but apparently not.

[Atheck]

Isn't the power of Kurama amplifying Sakura's jutsu and reserves though? Sakura enshrouded with the energy of a bijuu doesn't provide a clear-cut example of her progression to the same status as Tsunade. She needs to demonstrate what she's capable of next to her teacher without the cloak to make a definitive comparison.
 

Its a nice theory to be fair, though we need more clues how it works with Slugs. We know Naruto could/can fuse with Pa and Ma being attached on his back or his shoulders.But if Katsuyu is such a big slug and can brake apart so to say to so many tiny segments ,would it be needed just one slug (which is hard to believe) or more to achieve SSM?

The greater the dimension of the slug, the more power that should be attained from the creature. If her entire power could be utilised then she could theoretically channel the totality of Shikkotsurin's natural energy to the user. Perhaps an alternative method exists where the fragment slug is capable of acquiring broadcasted chakra provided by the original. More information needs to be given of Katsuyu.

Edited by Atheck, 08 October 2013 - 06:24 PM.

[Chatte]

To be honest, to me it doesn't mean anything as I've heard it so many times being used by Hinata that it lost its charm... IT doesn't seem to belong to Naruto, you know? Nothing against HInata, but it's just .... overused.

[TouKen4Life3g]

To be honest, to me it doesn't mean anything as I've heard it so many times being used by Hinata that it lost its charm... IT doesn't seem to belong to Naruto, you know? Nothing against HInata, but it's just .... overused.

Wait, what do you mean?

[Chatte]

Wait, what do you mean?

The whole "That's my ninja way" thing. Before, everytime I heard Naruto saying that, it put a smile on my face, but today, I felt nothing because I've heard it from Hinata so many times that it doesn't feel special to Naruto anymore...dunno how to explain it exactly.

[BakeNeko-Chan]

To be honest, to me it doesn't mean anything as I've heard it so many times being used by Hinata that it lost its charm... IT doesn't seem to belong to Naruto, you know? Nothing against HInata, but it's just .... overused.

 

Vastly overused. This is why I feel Naruto's character has somewhat declined from previous arcs, he just keeps saying and doing the same thing over again and lost his originality because of it. Which is really sad, because I do truly love his character.

[TouKen4Life3g]

The whole "That's my ninja way" thing. Before, everytime I heard Naruto saying that, it put a smile on my face, but today, I felt nothing because I've heard it from Hinata so many times that it doesn't feel special to Naruto anymore...dunno how to explain it exactly.

Well, it's part of his character, though of course, we will get more of Naruto to Obito soon. In a way, it's already been addressed but this time, he told him himself. So it's almost like Obito knows Naruto more and more and I believe that's why he will learn his life/dream with Team 7 soon. Obito trusted Kakashi but broke, Obito believed Minato's words but lost in belief, and Obito loves Rin but lost her. Naruto could easily tide in. It's just one of them needs to open up.

[DattebayoXShannaro]

Well, to be specific, he said "I never go back on my word, that's my ninja way".