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[六道仙人]

I'd be honest here... Sakura doesn't look like Rin physically...

[TouKen4Life3g]

I'd be honest here... Sakura doesn't look like Rin physically...

Won't be funny if Sakura decides to use those tapes on her cheeks. But seriously, well she's the closest you can get looking "similar" to Rin. However, I do think like Naruto with Obito, the parallel will trigger by her actions verbally.

 

And what do you know, people are thrashing Rin/Sakura idea in telegrams...

[@hellsbecca]

mehsushi, thanks for the add

but for me is kind of silly IDK 

Now,if Obito-Rin relationship has to be a parallel with any Naruto couple it would be NaruSaku 'cause Obito was ''rejected'' by her,like Sakura ''done'' to Naruto. I mean,Rin loved Kakashi,the prodigy boy. Sakura loves Sasuke,the marvel boy. Obito and Naruto has something in common,I mind it can be explored.

[Moon_Girl]

Rin and Sakura do share -some- simularities. The eye style and the hair style, for one. (Short, straight hair with parted bangs/no bangs)

 

 

I don't think so. The rinnegan has six paths and has showed us everything through Nagato. Don't tell me Madara is a greater master of the eye than him.

The Juubi is what makes Obito dangerous, not Obito himself. He has a magic dose of Senju DNA and is an Uchiha, it's not that weird.

Kakashi saw himself in part 1 Sasuke. Kakashi and Obito saw Obito in Naruto. It wouldn't be weird if someone sees Rin in Sakura too.

 

Besides, all these remindings of Obito's feelings for Rin might lead to a parallel and a TnJ. Flashbacks are always there and for a reason. It must mean something and I think this is foreshadowing.

 

I also think Obito's feelings for Rin (as a child, before he went nuts) are similar to Naruto's feelings for Sakura. I do think Naruto and Sakura have reached the next stage though, the one Obito and Rin might have gotten to if they ever survived.

 

I see. Thanks for clearing that up!

[Strangelove]

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Wow... and I thought we already had an overpowered opponent in our hands already.

 

Anyway, things seem to bee looking weird for me. I'm not sure if this is true or not, but it feels like this guy's pretty much possessed right now (I want to see what everyone else thinks). Apart from that, The interaction between Sakura and Hinata kinda reminded me of the pain arc and this time, Hinata did what I thought she was supposed to do in the Pain arc (relay the info via the Byakugan, so I give her props for that.

 

How will the alliance deal with such an overpowered opponent (stronger than Hashirama and even making Madara use his "trump card" earlier than expected? Well... one more week then...

 

 

I noticed that, he was like...wtf is Obito???

 

and if that is true, and Obito is possessed by the Juubi, he will probably go after Naruto next considering that earlier chapters, Naruto caused a sudden anger reaction.

[harry4e]

I finally feel like someone's gonna die!

The sense of danger..war..bloodbath. I liked this chapter, but I hate that Kishi always leaves us hanging.

Really liked the art too, especially Obito's new design.

 

What was Neji then Chopped Liver?

 

Looks like they are having a pissing contest here, Madara still has a trick up his sleeve. It's getting to being able to destroy planets crazy.

 

Obito just became super powered within second of becoming a Jichuuriki, I was expecting a few minutes of adjustment as the super powerful Chakra flooded his body, but I guess being not quite human helped him adjust? I get the feeling though becoming a host before the Ten Tails fully evolved will help them in the long run.

 

I get the feeling Naruto is going to need the other half of the Kurama's Chakra and the other Bijuu's power to fight this guy, though you wonder if we might end up with two tentails if the power the Bijuu gave Naruto were to combine.

 

Interesting chapter non the less.

[sushi.]

 

What was Neji then Chopped Liver?

I haven't felt the sense of danger since Neji died. It has been a while.

 

I thought the deaths would get worse by each chapter. First it was Ino-Shika, then Neji..then nothing.

 

I think you misunderstood.

mehsushi, thanks for the add

but for me is kind of silly IDK 

Now,if Obito-Rin relationship has to be a parallel with any Naruto couple it would be NaruSaku 'cause Obito was ''rejected'' by her,like Sakura ''done'' to Naruto. I mean,Rin loved Kakashi,the prodigy boy. Sakura loves Sasuke,the marvel boy. Obito and Naruto has something in common,I mind it can be explored.

Yes and the difference is that Obito and Rin never got a chance. ObiRin might have developed in a similar fashion as NS if they had survived.

Edited by sushi., 09 July 2013 - 06:47 PM.

[merryGOflava]

..........plot twist.....they are all in the tsukuyomi moon genjutsu 

[Inferno180]

This situation reminds me of Aizen back in bleach when he just steamrolled everyone, Obito is kinda like that now, does not care who or what he is, just has all the power he needs. Obito may not even be alive himself, the power causing him to stutter on his own name. Obito as he is right now is just like how Naruto used to act whenever Kurama flared up and rage overtook him. Unless the tailed beasts can be removed in the same way as Naruto said before, to break up the ten tails, no telling what will happen. Its going to take a lot of effort to stop Obito, something tells me its going to be Madara and his own trump card, kinda funny when you say it like that though. Madara was the ace for Kabuto, Madara has his own ace, an ace with an ace up his sleeve. If its Rin, we can understand how Madara would use it to pacify Obito. If it is somehow the sage, then things only get worse for the alliance. Though I would like to understand when Madara learned edo tensei if his plan involves a reanimated person. One thing was good with the chapter though, Madara was cautious of Obito catching on, if something happens Obito could possibly turn on Madara.

[Dkey]

Pff finally got home.

 

Well, if Obito died in the last chapter, I would agree with you, but knowing the purpose is to go to this, I don't. The reason why is because Kishi is known to not have multiple battles if one is coming that will be long and large scale. I mean why have so many if one will be enough as he may put it. That said I mentioned in the review that if Naruto BM goes to a new level to the point he's equal to Obito, how in the world Sasuke will be at this level. For that matter, the battle might as well become, "You'll die only, because I'm just too godly, Sasuke." That's why I'm having trouble seeing this.

 

None. If the last volume didn't happen, maybe it may have, seeing that 615 was a chapter that many have really wondered if it's NH. Lately, she pretty much friendzoned and she doesn't mind. That said it seems that Kishi has already made two parallels in this arc and Rin is left a blank. So who is it? You guessed it. So yeah, no possibility for Hinata. It needs a lineup to all parallels and knowing Minato is still there, well, it does seem all other non-NS pairings are blocked.

 

Yes, but the reason why I want Rin = Sakura because of the story setup. I don't really need it for pairing wise, but for story. Now, it's getting good because Obito seems possessed or something and Minato can't help him. So the best thing to do is either have Rin or a paralleled Rin, because she is the most important person to him. Will it trigger a good or bad side effect? Don't know. It could be like that cartoon where the guy died because of the little girl embarrassed him in his career, and the guy was revived and saw a parallel within one girl, so he was enraged and decides to kill her immediately. Anyway, it's only the first chapter, so be prepared.

 

 

I'm thinking of what you said in the video review. Side note I like your review it can open up a lot of chatting so keep up the good work. Obito is portrayed right now as the most powerful. Even Madara is forced to oppose him. But the next chapter will most likely tell the readers what does Obito want ( apart from resurrecting Rin). We can say it is to crush Naruto yet he only answered to Minato. Anyway I think we will know exactly what Obito is trying to do ( and maybe Madara) next chapter.

As for the ultimate fight I'm still thinking it will be the Sasuke Naruto one. This one seems to be everybody against one, and even thou realistically there won't be one there are a lot of characters we expect for them to interact in the Obito fight.

And Sasuke versus Naruto may very well be an all out war not just a 1 vs 1 battle.

 

After I move and have some time [moving to Cluj] maybe I will have time to write that post about how RTN will come to play in cannon manga.

 

As for Sakura's appearances, I am sure it's not a coincidence.

 

As for Juubi/Obito... Let me paste you a thing. It was kinda foreshadowed in the anime, in a filler episode.

 

I found this really interesting thread on other Naruto forum about Tobi and thought I should share with you.
This guys is so observant, lol.

During one of the filler arcs, Tobi stopped at a Dango shop with Deidara, and said this.

“Ichibi, Nibi, Sanbi, boku wa Tobi!” while referring to the tailed beasts.

It translates to: “Ichibi, Nibi, Sanbi, and I’m Tobi!”

Tobi’s plan for world domination is to revive the Juubi, or “Ten-Tailed Beast”.

But he also said that he was trying to achieve a complete form of his own.

Here’s the neat part:
When counting from one to ten in Japanese, it goes:
Ichi, Ni, San, Yon, Go, Roku, Shichi, Hachi, Kyuu, Juu.

When counting objects, it goes differently:
Hitotsu, Futatsu, Mittsu, Yottsu, Itsusu, Muttsu, Nanatsu, Yatsu, Kokonotsu, To.

The tailed beasts get their names by combining the character for the number of tails they have with the character for“bi”.

That means that Tobi’s statement to Deidara can actually be translated as:
“One-Tailed, Two-Tailed, Three-Tailed, and I’m Ten-Tailed!”

 

 

At first I assumed you meant the genjutsu but right now I'm thinking on a parallel regarding the last fight in RTN and what we are going to see in the manga. Thou in all honesty something to show Sakura's affinity for genjutsu needs to be addressed. Also there's this new development where it seems Obito doesn't know who he is so we can assume it's the Juubi's conscious.

 

So Tobi can be translated as ten-tails. I'm amazed by this information. But I want to see what happens next because it seems Obito is now Tobi. Or at least he isn't anyone anymore.

 

 

Good luck moving at Cluj. But why are you moving there? Where did you live until now?

[Atheck]

I don't think so. The rinnegan has six paths and has showed us everything through Nagato. Don't tell me Madara is a greater master of the eye than him.

 
Those eyes were Madara's originally. We are not aware of how much time that has elapsed between the awakening of the Rinnegan and when they were implanted into Nagato's eye sockets except that he was antiquated when both situations occurred. Granted, Nagato undoubtedly had much more time to refine his usage of the doujutsu, but Madara may have attempted to practice with them as well when he was still alive. 
 
As for who has displayed a superior understanding of the Rinnegan's abilities, that would be Nagato, for the most part. I say "most" because if the meteorite that Madara invoked was indeed summoned by the interlinking usage of Bansho Tenin and Susanoo then several of God Realm's abilities are better equipped by him instead of Nagato; especially if he was able to amplify the attractive force behind the technique through his Susanoo. Integrating two separate abilities like that is indicative of mastery IMO. 
 
Also, it's not like Nagato capitalized on every single ability that was offered by the Rinnegan. I don't recall him ever using Yin-Yang Release or the granted aptitude for learning all elements. Has Nagato ever even displayed elemental ninjutsu before? Yes, Madara and Tobi haven't exactly used Suiton or Fuuton but they have both shown knowledge of Katon release before they even acquired the Rinnegan. And they've both used Yin-Yang Release. I believe that's where the Mugen Tsukuyomi concept originated actually. 
 
So in most respects, Nagato is the superior doujutsu user (for now), but in a few areas he's somewhat...lacking.
 

The Juubi is what makes Obito dangerous, not Obito himself. He has a magic dose of Senju DNA and is an Uchiha, it's not that weird.

Yes, and Naruto without Kurama would arguably be inferior to Jiraiya with Ma and Pa fused. Unless he acquired the knowledge on how to properly summon the toad sages so he could fuse with them then he would be relegated to short intervals of Sage Mode before being forced to rely on his basic taijutsu techniques and clones in base. It's because of these additional transformations that Naruto is able to contend with the Jubi, Madara, and Tobi in the first place.

At best, without Kurama or an unremitting SM, Naruto would be in the low Kage tier bracket next to Guy. Killer Bee would become a bootleg Raikage without shunshin or the Raiton shroud who wields multiple swords. Gaara remained mostly the same except his chakra reserves probably took a nosedive after Shukaku was removed and he is now without the bijuu transformations as well as the auto protective sand. As for the other jinchuuriki we don't have much information about them, however, it's very likely that most of them would be significantly weaker without their bijuu amplifying their chakra, stats, and recovery rate. Not only that, almost all of them probably lack the hereditary advantages that give Naruto some indemnity if he were to ever lose his jinchuuriki status. So they are even worst off than Naruto.

It's not just Tobi. Anyone who happens to be in possession of a bijuu will more than likely develop a dependency on their creature in battle. They centre their fighting styles around the usage of their immeasurable reserves of chakra and transformations. The only verifiable exceptions to this notion are Gaara and Kushina. Without the bijuu, most of them would become irrelevant, undistinguished figures amongst the crowd of fodder. At least with Tobi he has Mokuton and Kamui to fall back on.

Tobi could have been a threat had he chosen to make better usage of his Rinnegan. It would have saved him from injury numerous times throughout this fight and his chakra supply would be replenished somewhat by the constant usage of residual chakra techniques by his opponent, if he was ever damaged in the first place.

In fact, You could take away the Rinnegan and Tobi would still be a very dangerous oppoent to have to face. Remember his strategy before Kakashi's realisation that their two Mangekyou abilities were interconnected? Just a single touch and he could teleport you into an inescapable realm where you would die from either starvation or thirst if he chose not to release you. The only reason for his battle status being degraded is because the one man who happens to be capable of entering and leaving the dimension just like Tobi is his opponent in this fight. Without Kakashi and his Mangekyo Sharingan available to bail other people out or bypass Tobi's phasing he would be untouchable.

Edited by Atheck, 09 July 2013 - 08:15 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Pff finally got home.

 

 

 

I'm thinking of what you said in the video review. Side note I like your review it can open up a lot of chatting so keep up the good work. Obito is portrayed right now as the most powerful. Even Madara is forced to oppose him. But the next chapter will most likely tell the readers what does Obito want ( apart from resurrecting Rin). We can say it is to crush Naruto yet he only answered to Minato. Anyway I think we will know exactly what Obito is trying to do ( and maybe Madara) next chapter.

As for the ultimate fight I'm still thinking it will be the Sasuke Naruto one. This one seems to be everybody against one, and even thou realistically there won't be one there are a lot of characters we expect for them to interact in the Obito fight.

And Sasuke versus Naruto may very well be an all out war not just a 1 vs 1 battle.

Yeah, but that would be lackluster in comparison. It's like Code Geass, just finish the fight. It's fine, but it's not as grand scale as it was once before. For all I know, it can be like Busou Renkin, just fight the guy who's been dying to fight you and well, win. Simple but at least you got it out of the way. That's not nearly exciting in my opinion. The problem is that Naruto and Sasuke's journey was showing how they gain their knowledge and power and fight each other in the end to see who has truly triumph. Now well it seems like it's no longer, "both of us will die," just Sasuke, not to sound biased. The funny part is that Sasuke still didn't see Naruto BM yet, so something will come out of that. If Naruto BM has been upgraded, then seriously, what Sasuke can do at this point? If Naruto fights Obito single handily, then what Sasuke can do? It's soon, so I guess I can wait, but it really raised so many questions, wouldn't you say?

 

Thank you for checking out the review.

[Dkey]

Yeah, but that would be lackluster in comparison. It's like Code Geass, just finish the fight. It's fine, but it's not as grand scale as it was once before. For all I know, it can be like Busou Renkin, just fight the guy who's been dying to fight you and well, win. Simple but at least you got it out of the way. That's not nearly exciting in my opinion. The problem is that Naruto and Sasuke's journey was showing how they gain their knowledge and power and fight each other in the end to see who has truly triumph. Now well it seems like it's no longer, "both of us will die," just Sasuke, not to sound biased. The funny part is that Sasuke still didn't see Naruto BM yet, so something will come out of that. If Naruto BM has been upgraded, then seriously, what Sasuke can do at this point? If Naruto fights Obito single handily, then what Sasuke can do? It's soon, so I guess I can wait, but it really raised so many questions, wouldn't you say?

 

Thank you for checking out the review.

 

We haven't seen that perfect susanoo in action really. Kept for Sasuke. Also how would you feel if Sasuke get's another Sharingan?

[Mistraal]

I really want someone to summon Edo-Rin.

 

With Obito gone so far of the deep end I think Rin might be the only person that will make him snap out of his craziness.

This is where Team 7 comes in. The foreshadowing is so thick you can cut it with a knife. However, it would involve naruto making his feelings public on the battlefield somehow in order to accomplish.

Which means...Sakura may be in danger here soon. Naruto is far too powerful to let her die though and Sasuke is there as well so I think she'll be ok.

Edited by Mistraal, 09 July 2013 - 08:22 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

 

We haven't seen that perfect susanoo in action really. Kept for Sasuke. Also how would you feel if Sasuke get's another Sharingan?

That's the problem, there is no more. Plus, didn't Hashirama already defeated Madara WITH Kyuubi already, not to mention he had Kyuubi with Susanoo? If Hashirama said he's stronger than him, then you know you're in deep trouble. What's worse is that Obito is technically not complete, so it's possible he can be by going after Naruto and Killer Bee. That said Madara is already worried that if he doesn't play his card now, Obito can overpower him. That's bad news. Pretty much we are dealing with a new God. It's like fighting a DBZ character at this point. That all said still not buying on Sasuke. He might as well hang the sword and give up if Naruto goes his way to be overpower. Heck, this could go DBZ route for all I care with Sasuke saying, "Naruto, you are the best."

[Phantom_999]

I like Obito's appearance as the new Jubi Jinchuriki. Naruto confirmed he recieved chakra from all of the Bijus. It seems Naruto may become a Jubi host himself. maybe. I know it seems farfetched and unreasonable but I have a feeling. but it's not plausible so I won't dwell on it. I don't care what Sakura des as long as it plays a key role in winning the battle and shows that she is not useless or needlessly passive in fights.

Edited by Phantom_999, 10 July 2013 - 03:47 PM.

[sushi.]

Atheck; I don't know how you always manage to write an essay out of two sentences.

 

All I can say is that Obito doesn't even use the rinnegan and the alliance know how his jutsu works. He was the least of the worries until now. And that I see Nagato as the second strongest Rinnegan user we've seen because he wasn't stuck in a cave for his entire life. Of course we don't know how or when Madara got the Rinnegan, but I hope it won't remain a plothole.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

He had a trump card for in case Obito doesnt cooperate using the zetsu from Obito's body then use a to make it become  black zetsu and control Obito's body now he has another trump card.

It got ridiculous.

 

Also about Sakura didnt Sai said that her smile was fake but no confrontation or response because well he basically called her a liar.

 

Bee will give some of his chakra tor Naruto and he will also become the sage of the six paths, Obito is not on the complete form so it will be Sage of the six paths vs sage of the six paths.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 09 July 2013 - 08:37 PM.

[Atheck]

That's the problem, there is no more. Plus, didn't Hashirama already defeated Madara WITH Kyuubi already, not to mention he had Kyuubi with Susanoo? If Hashirama said he's stronger than him, then you know you're in deep trouble. What's worse is that Obito is technically not complete, so it's possible he can be by going after Naruto and Killer Bee. That said Madara is already worried that if he doesn't play his card now, Obito can overpower him. That's bad news. Pretty much we are dealing with a new God. It's like fighting a DBZ character at this point. That all said still not buying on Sasuke. He might as well hang the sword and give up if Naruto goes his way to be overpower. Heck, this could go DBZ route for all I care with Sasuke saying, "Naruto, you are the best."

There are some things Susanoo can't handle, for everything else there's Hungry Ghost Realm. But if we went by this logic, the Alliance should have Killer Bee fused with Samehada on the front lines with Madara spamming HGR and absorbing anything that Tobi unleashes. Samehada is renowned for its anti-bijuu properties. It's the Achilles' Heel for any jinchuuriki.

However, there is probably a fundamental detriment that would prohibit them from use this strategy as it would be impractical if they weren't constantly spamming those abilities.

[TouKen4Life3g]

He had a trump card for in case Obito doesnt cooperate using the zetsu from Obito's body then use a to make it become  black zetsu and control Obito's body now he has another trump card.
It got ridiculous.
 
Also about Sakura didnt Sai said that her smile was fake but no confrontation or response because well he basically called her a liar.
 
Bee will give some of his chakra tor Naruto and he will also become the sage of the six paths, Obito is not on the complete form so it will be Sage of the six paths vs sage of the six paths.

To be fair, Madara never said he has a trump card for everything, just this one. I'll say that this one is THE trump card and if it fails, uh oh?