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[Otaru]

I think Madara is trying to separate Black Zetsu from Obito's  body, this a half of him will be gone...which is kinda consisting in ...his death?!

 

If you're right, this gonna be really horrible.

[Dkey]

 

So you're of the opinion that Black Zetsu, the one who has been acting as a loyal companion to Tobi all of this time, has manifested himself on the right portion of Tobi's body? Unless Madara can somehow remotely bypass the chakra which Chojuro was channeling through Hiramekarei to nullify Black Zetsu and have him teleport onto Tobi then that allegation seems unsubstantiated IMHO. Would total manipulation of the body even be possible? We have to keep in mind that only half of Tobi's body is composed of Zetsu. Unless Madara's corrupting chakra/essence is able to spread into the mind and parasitically attach itself then that seems unlikely as well.

 

This may just be my own thoughts on the matter but the Black Zetsu whom we've seen throughout the manga shouldn't be discounted just yet. He may still be entrapped by Chojuro's sword. Kishi would not leave how Zetsu escaped from its clutches unrevealed; it doesn't coincide with his writing style. Granted that statement isn't entirely true since there have been a few events which he failed to elaborate on like Kakashi's rampage and how a decrepit old Madara bound to Gedo Mazo for life support was somehow able to travel all of the way to Amegakure, locate the single Uzumaki child who was orphaned in that war-torn country, and then perform a complex eye transplantation procedure.

 

 

 

Not sure what to believe. I was mainly calling Black zetsu as Madara's will. Both black and white zetsu's operated for years as one single organism. The only difference was their personality. Also there's the possibility that not all of Black Zetsu was captured by Chojuro. And that there were some hidden Black Zetsu cells inside Obito. Also black zetsu is a product of white zetsu and Madara's will so it is possible that what's taking over Obito's body is different from the black zetsu. More will be revealed next chapter I hope.

[Liu bie]

Good chapter, I thought that Madara would not do anything in this week.

[Inferno180]

Well Madara was dead long time ago, so it makes possible to revive people who are edo tensei even if they are not using their bodies?

Because the D never happend but it's going to happen, to a point that the body who gets revived it's an Uchiha + Senju cells, which will allow him to become the jinchuuriki htat he seeks, then he could've revived Rin, Nagato could revive Yahiko, and even Minato can be revived on his current state, and even with this possibily why Naruto is not tempted with the idea of bringing his parents back?

Or even Sasuke being able to revive his beloved brother and his family?

(like he said then bring back Itachi and my parents my clan then i'll stop)

 

Yeah its going to become more confusing once we see how the stuff actually works, I mean some techniques become hard to follow when new mechanics or requirements are added in. I mean when Kabuto explained how the edo tensi worked, fine the per-requiquses were easily understood, but they we get the stuff like gutting the reaper's stomach, makes it a little lackluster. So now for the rinne tensei and who and how one is revived, we may see a unique revival by Madara if he comes back in full.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

 

Yeah its going to become more confusing once we see how the stuff actually works, I mean some techniques become hard to follow when new mechanics or requirements are added in. I mean when Kabuto explained how the edo tensi worked, fine the per-requiquses were easily understood, but they we get the stuff like gutting the reaper's stomach, makes it a little lackluster. So now for the rinne tensei and who and how one is revived, we may see a unique revival by Madara if he comes back in full.

I feel that Sasuke is going to be tempted again, i know that he doesnt have a plan because he come back to be hokage but it was obvious he would not be, also there's no plan and hints that Sasuke may be thinking about what to do next, i feel that after seeing that there's a jutsu than an uchiha can use to bring back dead people he may be want the juubi's power or even the bijuu's power to bring back his clan.

On Obito's lab he had a lot of dna of dead uchihas and even one rinnegan left and senju cells.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 26 June 2013 - 01:53 PM.

[Otaru]

I re-read the chapter

I think Obito is trying to kill himself

[arian_rad]

I re-read the chapter
I think Obito is trying to kill himself

If that was the case obito would be going out with something more than just death, he will probably go out with hope knowing the world is in good hands (naruto) and he will change his ways. There is no way obito will go out without being used as a plot device. At this very moment, madara is using him and his remaining chakra to do the edo tensei it seems. Hopefully obito goes out with a purpose which makes his death less tragic.

[Liu bie]

I feel that Sasuke is going to be tempted again, i know that he doesnt have a plan because he come back to be hokage but it was obvious he would not be, also there's no plan and hints that Sasuke may be thinking about what to do next, i feel that after seeing that there's a jutsu than an uchiha can use to bring back dead people he may be want the juubi's power or even the bijuu's power to bring back his clan.

On Obito's lab he had a lot of dna of dead uchihas and even one rinnegan left and senju cells.

First Sasuke has to deal with Madara if he has to own that power.

[sushi.]

So many things are happening. XD Usually that's great, but Kishi's weakspot is focusing on too many things at one time. I wonder if he will focus on Sasuke or Obito the next chapter.

 

I also hope Obito's giant image of Rin has a purpose, I don't like it when Kishi draws useless panels.

 

btw Otaru, why?

[Otaru]

I don't know really.

The more and more I read it, the more it seems to me he wants to go to Rin in death.

Or maybe he wants to kill the black Zetsu ?

Maybe he's screaming because he needs a very big amount of his last forces to try to kill the Zetsu in his body ?

Doesn't he have a kunai in his hands ? It's so dark i can't see well

Edited by Otaru, 26 June 2013 - 02:06 PM.

[ramenanmitsu]

No more parallels please.

 

 

Really, no more parallels please. 

[Jake]

Man I kept going in and out of sleep last night and completely forgot, oh well, it was a good chapter but I really didn't miss that much, looks like I was right about the last page of 635 was genjutsu, and as for Obito's fate, I was expecting Madara to be revived with Renni Tensei (causing Obito's death) but I never thought that it would turn out like this.

[Atheck]

I'll be honest, during that final exchange between Tobi and Kakashi whilst the fight was playing itself out with interposing flashbacks to their childhood match I was supporting the former to win. The latter has always been depicted as this strategic combat genius, someone who was able to maintain a steady lead on their competition. Well Tobi is intended to parallel Naruto and much like Naruto during their youth they were both the inferior of their teammates. It could just be human nature to want to see the underdog succeed.

 

It's not only combat abilities but ideology as well. Anyone who once supported Tobi's ambitions is now either dead or they have forsaken him to pursue their own goals. The entire world has banded together to obstruct the fulfillment of his deepest desires and now his one remaining ally has finally come to the conclusion that he is of no more use; which is why he is being sacrificed for a tensei ninjutsu. He has no one left to look towards for support as the essence that had been sustaining his life for so many years begins to consume his body and what remains of his existence is now flashing before his eyes.

 

Though it may be deplorable to say I kind of want Tobi to succeed after ruminating on everything he has sacrificed to come this far. You know there's only one person whom you could actually classify as his genuine ally, someone who never held any notions of betrayal or discontent with him, and that man is Kisame. It's ironic that Tobi would die similarly clinging to his objective of wanting to achieve a better world.

Edited by Atheck, 26 June 2013 - 03:00 PM.

[Liu bie]

No redemption for Obito even he was thinking  in Rin

[TouKen4Life3g]

You know, the conflict is going to be very crazy, because if Madara succeed becoming Jinchuuriki, Naruto will still find a way to help Bijuu because well, it's hard to say how it works because of few things. One is that it suggested that if the user dies, the bijuu will be sleeping forever until released. Second, even if they do unlock the seal, that would mean they will have to fight Juubi again, since well it is damn powerful. Third, Naruto still wants to free all Bijuus, then there's Sasuke. It looks like it's going to be conflicted battle if Madara becomes Jinchuuriki with Naruto and Sasuke because one believes all must be erased from corrupted system and the other believes all can be repaired if we just cooperate. I guess we must get rid of Madara to see where Sasuke stands. So in short, I could be right from two chapters ago, it's the "Sasuke, it seems like you do have something in mind, but right now, I'm busy, so hold that thought."

[Dkey]

You know, the conflict is going to be very crazy, because if Madara succeed becoming Jinchuuriki, Naruto will still find a way to help Bijuu because well, it's hard to say how it works because of few things. One is that it suggested that if the user dies, the bijuu will be sleeping forever until released. Second, even if they do unlock the seal, that would mean they will have to fight Juubi again, since well it is damn powerful. Third, Naruto still wants to free all Bijuus, then there's Sasuke. It looks like it's going to be conflicted battle if Madara becomes Jinchuuriki with Naruto and Sasuke because one believes all must be erased from corrupted system and the other believes all can be repaired if we just cooperate. I guess we must get rid of Madara to see where Sasuke stands. So in short, I could be right from two chapters ago, it's the "Sasuke, it seems like you do have something in mind, but right now, I'm busy, so hold that thought."

 

the possibility of Madara becoming a jinchuriki by being brought back to life is pretty big. This opens up the possibility of Sasuke and Naruto fighting together ( an alliance of convenience of course) to defeat Madara. And it may tie up with chapter 625 and the uchiha's stone tablet.

Edited by Dkey, 26 June 2013 - 03:22 PM.

[sushi.]

Madara can't get a hold of the Juubi until the barrier is disabled right ?

And will he wait until it has reached its final form ?

[Mistraal]

My Initial thoughts:

1.) How the hell is Kakashi beating a Rinnegan user? Just....no. No. I <3 Kakashi but I don't think so...

2.) If Obito dies I'm pretty sure we lose our shot at the Rin/Sakura - Obito/Naruto parallel. It's clear as day as is but....I wanted it shoved it peoples faces.

3.) I feel really weird about Obito dying w.o there being any interaction with Minato. Minato is standing right THERE. Good ol Team reunion, eh? EH??

 

4.) It's clear now that Madara is waiting to have his bout with Hashirama before he absorbs the Juubi. However, this might not happen. This implies that Madara KNEW the Kages with be Edo'd and he KNEW Hashi would be there which all equals... = ????? Something to do with Orochimaru maybe?

[Akashi]

So that Madara kitten just used poor Obito...  The guy is still alive, so I hope that he'll be able to ruin Madara's plans somehow. 

[Gravenimage]

It was to be expected of Madara betraying Obito since Obito himself has never trusted him since he first met him. Is it just me or the way Kishi draw Rin smiling in that flashback looked a whole lot similar to Sakura smiling?