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#121 Jake

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 06:33 PM

QUOTE (tricksie @ Feb 20 2013, 01:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Inner Sakura may come into play if Obito succeeds in his world moon plan, knocking everyone out. As Ino said in the chunnin exams, Sakura has a separate "mind," an area of her psyche that is able to elude jutsus, fight back and gain control. So it might very well make another appearance if succeeds in his plan. Then Sakura would be able to help rouse the others. (Sort of like RtN but without the alternate universe thing.)

I vaguely remember that Kishimoto saying Inner Sakura was a coping mechanism of sorts, and that it receded with her maturity. But I may be wrong.


The problem with that is that in order to activate the Moon Eye Plan what needs to happen is
  1. Obito has to sacrifice himself and use Rinne Tensei (Obito doesn't seem to know any Genjutsu) to revive Madara
  2. Madara has to seal the Jubi inside himself and begin a lengthy process to initiate the plan, that Madara said they needed to defeat Naruto, B, Kakashi and Guy before they could, and now with the supercharged Alliance there it starting to look even less likely.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 06:34 PM

QUOTE (tricksie @ Feb 20 2013, 12:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Inner Sakura may come into play if Obito succeeds in his world moon plan, knocking everyone out. As Ino said in the chunnin exams, Sakura has a separate "mind," an area of her psyche that is able to elude jutsus, fight back and gain control. So it might very well make another appearance if succeeds in his plan. Then Sakura would be able to help rouse the others. (Sort of like RtN but without the alternate universe thing.)

I vaguely remember that Kishimoto saying Inner Sakura was a coping mechanism of sorts, and that it receded with her maturity. But I may be wrong.


It's been noted of this but I wouldn't mind Inner Sakura coming back. Hell, the way she was used in the first half and how she was able to break Ino's jutsu was quite telling given she's a normal girl. I always thought Inner Sakura would play some bigger role after that but nah, Sakura wore inner Sakura on the outside pretty much. LOL

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 06:44 PM

QUOTE (tricksie @ Feb 20 2013, 03:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Inner Sakura may come into play if Obito succeeds in his world moon plan, knocking everyone out. As Ino said in the chunnin exams, Sakura has a separate "mind," an area of her psyche that is able to elude jutsus, fight back and gain control. So it might very well make another appearance if succeeds in his plan. Then Sakura would be able to help rouse the others. (Sort of like RtN but without the alternate universe thing.)

I vaguely remember that Kishimoto saying Inner Sakura was a coping mechanism of sorts, and that it receded with her maturity. But I may be wrong.

Well i'm not trolling but after the Orochimaru thing and the kages coming back and etc..
Everything can happen, kishimoto already crossed the line of logic, and the when he said "exciting" well it wasnt because of good writing but because he did so many things and on this arc he used all the characters who appeared on the series, people going OOC and whatever the fact that everything can happen.
Sakura can appear outta from nowhere shooting lasers and it still would be reasonable, i'm not trolling i'm serious.
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 06:49 PM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Feb 21 2013, 01:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bolded: I'm with you on that one. Sakura learning Slug Sage Mode would be perfect if they weren't in a war with Madara, Obito and the Jyuubi. I have no idea how Kishimoto would go about teaching her Slug Sage Mode while they're in the middle of the battle. Having Hashirama teach Sakura Slug Sage Mode be the first thing that he does in the war (assuming he'll enter the fight) sounds really lame, no offense at all to Sakura. As you said, I would much rather see him fight than go into instructor mode. It doesn't really make sense for him to do that anyway, going back to the situation that they're currently in. Sakura may learn it, but it probably won't be in this arc.

I also really like your theories regarding how Hashirama knows Katsuyu and how Tsunade gained her contract with the slugs. Your prediction of Hashirama entering the battle because he hears of Tsunade's condition is also really nice. Enraged grandfather for the win. I wonder how he would get word of that information though. None of the people that he's with at the moment know anything about what happened to the Kages. I doubt that anyone else involved in the war knows that the Hokages have been summoned either, so no one is going to run and tell them the news... Maybe Orochimaru has another buttplug-pull up his sleeve.

For the record, I didn't say that I want to see more of Hashirama and Madara as kids. I said I didn't mind seeing them as kids. The flashbacks are still incredibly boring for me. I'm not trying to rain on your parade though. I'm glad that other people are enjoying it. smile.gif


An insanely overpowered good guy going (Grand)Papa Wolf on the Big Bad?? yes please emoticon_monocle.gif . I believe the news of her death will either be delivered by Madara or the Kages. I'd rather have Madara do it, though. Just to see how suicidal he is fu.png .

@Bolded: Ok, we're cool then happy.gif .

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 06:53 PM

Flashback within a flackback! Buwahahahahaha!

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 07:10 PM

If Sakura is shown to have the technique of SM or any other thing, I think it's because she learned it before.

It doesn't have to be Hashirama who can teach her, or having her unlock something in her powers. If Sakura will show us a new technique then Kishi can simply make some flashbacks in the background of when she learned and/or who did teach her. This has been done with other characters on different things.
It can be a butt pull if she jumped out of nowhere and start fighting with a new technique.

Or Sakura can simply don't have a new power up, and do another role of whatever Kishi has in store. Though, I hope she won't be a damsel in distress who needs to be saved fu.png. Well, if she fought or did something useful at first then Madara and Obito threats her and/ or capture her, I think we all know what is Kishi's intentions in this way XD

Edited by T XD, 20 February 2013 - 07:40 PM.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 07:16 PM

QUOTE (StriderC @ Feb 20 2013, 12:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Niceeeeeeee!! The bolded works out perfectly and she doesn't have to get pulled to Tsunades location with this. She gets the news, we her reaction, and she doesn't have to leave Naruto's side. I truly hope THIS happens. biggrin.gif

Yeah, I figure if Sakura's going to get an upgrade, this is the best and easiest way to make it happen. This, at the very least, takes the first steps towards her learning Slug Sage Mode. She may not learn it now, given that they're in the middle of the fight and there's really no time for her to pick up on something as complicated as Sage Mode, but this may not be the final battle. If Kishimoto takes this route, he can touch base on her learning Slug Sage Mode later on without it looking completely random - assuming that they get a break from this fight, which I doubt, but you never know.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 07:32 PM

QUOTE (T XD @ Feb 20 2013, 08:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If Sakura is shown to have the technique of SM or any other thing, I think it's because she learned it before.

It doesn't have to be Hashirama who can teach her, or having her unlock something in her powers. If Sakura will show us a new technique then Kishi can simply make some flashbacks in the background of when she learned and/or who did teach her. This has been done with other characters on different things.
It can be a butt pull if she jumped out of nowhere and start fighting with a new technique.

Or Sakura can simply don't have a new power up, and do a role of whatever Kishi has in store. Though, I hope she won't be a damsel in distress who needs to be saved fu.png. Well, if she fought or did something useful at first then Madara and Obito threats her and/ or capture her, I think we all can see what is Kishi's intentions in this way XD


Or , maybe we will get another moment like the fight with Gaara , just that this time it is Naruto being captured by the Juubi and playing the role of the damsel in distress and Sakura does the saving by unlocking new powers on her own to save the one she loves sakura.gif .

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 07:53 PM

I do like the idea of Sakura and all, especially since it revolves with sage, which will make me say, "CALLED IT!" That said I should just wait for the moment arrive or anything. It does feel conveinence though. At least it makes more sense than golden you-know-what.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 07:56 PM

QUOTE (narusakurama @ Feb 20 2013, 11:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Or , maybe we will get another moment like the fight with Gaara , just that this time it is Naruto being captured by the Juubi and playing the role of the damsel in distress and Sakura does the saving by unlocking new powers on her own to save the one she loves sakura.gif .

It's somewhat possible if she'll fight, though, even if she'll fight, I don't see it happening :/. Unless, Kishi wants to make NS moments in another fashion and in an unpredictable way which is having Sakura fight for Naruto. This is possible but a far one.

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Feb 20 2013, 11:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I do like the idea of Sakura and all, especially since it revolves with sage, which will make me say, "CALLED IT!" That said I should just wait for the moment arrive or anything. It does feel conveinence though. At least it makes more sense than golden you-know-what.

You mean golden... globe tongue.gif XD

Edited by T XD, 20 February 2013 - 08:04 PM.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 08:13 PM

What if Sakura is currently heading to the kages and tsunade, being the first hokages granddaughter and all, tells her about her heritage and gives her the secret to unlocking this technique?

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 08:24 PM

Hey, if you guys don't like the flashback we can always go back to the Alliance fight with Naruto losing faith and Hinata slapping him around and fantasizing about big strong things. XD

To be honest, and I'll let you in on a little secret, I am not thrilled about this flashbacks either, but then again the Alliance fight wasn't going anywhere either. The Alliance fight seemed to be full of nonsense development, villains stalling, good guy development going down the toilet, weeks upon weeks of the fight going on and on. Half the time they weren't even fighting. Just talking.

So I am mixed about it all. I kind of want to get to the Naruto vs Sasuke fight now.

Lol, Perhaps Naruto is doing a RE6. Fight a boss fight, beat him once, he changes, and comes back. Fight him again, beat him, he changes, and comes back. Fight him a third time, beat him, changes, comes back again. Fight him one last time and bored fighting the same enemy for so long. You guys dislike flashbacks, but I am finding it to be a breath of fresh air. I'm bored with the Alliance fight and it has caused a lot of aggravation on so many levels.

I do have to ask though, why does everyone expect Naruto to be more powerful then the Hashirama? I never expected this. Not once. I guess because I never took the "surpassing the previous" in that way. If Naruto was stronger than Hashirama, then we come to a point where you ask "Then why hasn't he destroyed Obito yet or Madara?" Hashirama has to be stronger to show why he was revered. Why he was seen as this "God among me."

Another problem I see is, the more powerful you make the new generation the stronger Hashirama had to be. He is supposed to be seen as powerful and if Naruto could make him look like a wimp then why call him a "god" for?

So I don't see a problem with it.

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Feb 20 2013, 08:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Moreover is Naruto's high speed, it's shown that he's faster than the yondaime but he does not use this ability, so with the speed he should theoretically already have raped both obito and madara using sand as a lubricant.
This is where i dont get it why show that he surpassed the yondaime on speed when he actually does not take advantage of it, in other words he didnt even needed to have Kakashi's Kamui to help him, he could just counter-attack with the highspeed.


Wrong. Factually wrong on all levels.

Why do people keep confusing speed with dimension bending? "Speed" implies traveling across a surface. Naruto is traveling across the ground. Even if he could traveling at the speed of light, he is still traveling across a plain. Minato doesn't "travel." He brings the destination to him using dimension bending.

Take a piece of paper, Dark. Draw two dots. Take a pencil and draw a line from one dot to another. Don't lift the pencil. That's traveling. That's speed.
Now take the same piece of paper and fold it in half to where the two dots meet. That's what Minato does.

Minato was also fast without his Thunder God Technique too. Is Naruto faster if they say did a marathon on foot? I don't know, but here is the thing. In order to have great speed you have to have huge reaction time. So even if Naruto's speed was faster than Minato's sans Thunder God, he would need the reaction time to control it. Otherwise he would just run into walls. Like the time he smacked right into the wall and broke his foot.

Naruto has a faster reaction time in sage mode. We also have the fact that Obito has the same ability with time-space manipulation. So the Kamui is still faster than Naruto. Any time-space manipulation will always be "faster" because you are not restricted to that plain of existence.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 08:26 PM


I think that they were more than just friends. fu.png

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 08:27 PM

QUOTE (FoolishYoungling @ Feb 20 2013, 01:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I think that they were more than just friends. fu.png


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 08:39 PM

QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ Feb 20 2013, 05:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wrong. Factually wrong on all levels.

Why do people keep confusing speed with dimension bending? "Speed" implies traveling across a surface. Naruto is traveling across the ground. Even if he could traveling at the speed of light, he is still traveling across a plain. Minato doesn't "travel." He brings the destination to him using dimension bending.

Take a piece of paper, Dark. Draw two dots. Take a pencil and draw a line from one dot to another. Don't lift the pencil. That's traveling. That's speed.
Now take the same piece of paper and fold it in half to where the two dots meet. That's what Minato does.

Minato was also fast without his Thunder God Technique too. Is Naruto faster if they say did a marathon on foot? I don't know, but here is the thing. In order to have great speed you have to have huge reaction time. So even if Naruto's speed was faster than Minato's sans Thunder God, he would need the reaction time to control it. Otherwise he would just run into walls. Like the time he smacked right into the wall and broke his foot.

Naruto has a faster reaction time in sage mode. We also have the fact that Obito has the same ability with time-space manipulation. So the Kamui is still faster than Naruto. Any time-space manipulation will always be "faster" because you are not restricted to that plain of existence.


Yondaime is theorically slower than Naruto, and what he did was just counter attack Obito when he did the same, Naruto was so fast that he could "blink" causing the same effect as the Hiraishin(on short distances) the difference is that yondaime can teleport to other bigger distances but shorter ones like going behind someome Naruto is faster, then Naruto could counter-attack Obito more effectively than Yondaime theorically but this wanst explored dunno why.
There was no necessity to show that highspeed if he cant use it in battle.

About the bolded there's no proof of it either it's only show he using hiraishin all the time.


Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 20 February 2013 - 08:54 PM.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 08:50 PM

QUOTE (T XD @ Feb 20 2013, 02:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You mean golden... globe tongue.gif XD


Yes...that was it. Let's go with that. I couldn't sworn it has something to do with the eyes, but I must be dreaming.

QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ Feb 20 2013, 03:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 08:55 PM

QUOTE (FoolishYoungling @ Feb 20 2013, 02:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I think that they were more than just friends. fu.png

I'm so happy I'm not the only one that had a dirty thought after seeing these two panels. xD

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 08:55 PM

QUOTE (FoolishYoungling @ Feb 20 2013, 02:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I think that they were more than just friends. fu.png


LMAO This is soooo wrong... tongue.gif

I'm starting to wonder if this flashback within a flashback will have any relevance to Sasuke's question? Does he reallllyyy need to delve into the past of the first? Then were gonna delve into the past of the second, third and fourth... We'll get back to the war next year. sleep.gif

Wowww Slex.. I didn't think that way at all to be honest. Guess my mind is pure unlike some of you NS fans. cool.gif fu.png

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 08:59 PM

QUOTE (StriderC @ Feb 20 2013, 02:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wowww Slex.. I didn't think that way at all to be honest. Guess my mind is pure unlike some of you NS fans. cool.gif fu.png

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 09:01 PM

QUOTE (FoolishYoungling @ Feb 20 2013, 11:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I think that they were more than just friends. fu.png

That's how they show their love guys XD




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