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[Nee-sama]

Where's Naruto? It's obvious. He's in the most unpredictable place!

[candycane-chan]

most unpredictable place /\ .....eating ramen with that wierd ramen guy complaining about menma in his ramen

[Smiter]

Actually, it's amazing she's alive right now and that she could live long enough to do anything. Not to mention the unbearable agony she must be in.

It's one of those things, like the massively incompentent prison guards, that we as a fandom are asked to hand wave away. Surviving injuries people shouldn't long enough to do or say something meaningful is a stable of many stories.

Also, don't forget Katsuya offered to essential glue her back together and she didn't waive it off because it was a ludicrous idea, but because she is prioritizing the others.


Soo...don't write the death certificate yet!



I'd assume either the power vacuum will be short enough that it will just remain (or be ignored) or Kakashi will keep the seat warm. They could do it now...with Naruto being the true as well as they spiritual leader of the village Sasuke wants to destroy.

If feels like an ending moment, but it doesn't have to be.

I don't know what Kishimoto will do though. Just some ideas.

P.S. I think she will die, but I'm not going to say the type of injury makes it a forgone conclusion.

Well, those are good points. I can see Naruto as Hokage, protecting the village against Sasuke. IF Tsunade does die or retire, the only question would be if Naruto would gain enough respect from the village elders to approve his appointment as Hokage. Of course, being a hero of the Great Ninja War wouldn't hurt...

Tsunade does have her forbidden healing ability, and I can imagine that using it to heal the other Kages and perhaps knit her broken body together, but it would cost her dearly in life expectancy. If she does live, I don't think she will have many years left to live.

[Transformers03]

Soooooooo yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh..............It seems like people are taking Tsunade's possible death (which is probably going to happen) in different ways. Obviously some are taking it worse than others. Personally for me..........I'm actually kind of indifferent. Now don't get me wrong, I really like Tsunade, but her dying doesn't really make feel essentially bad or sad. Actually I'm hoping her death will lead to Kakashi into becoming Hokage. I know Naruto will EVENTUALLY become Hokage, so I rather see someone else be Hokage before Naruto does, and I want it to be Kakashi. (Though most likely or not this will lead to Naruto becoming Hokage)

I understand perfectly for some fans to be very upset about this, and my sympathies go to them. But, if I have to be honest, even though I really do like the Naruto characters, I don't really have any emotional connection with any of them except for Naruto, Sakura, and MAYBE Kakashi (though his death didn't effect me either, but that's more to do with that I knew already he will be revived). I particularly don't care for most of the Konoha 9 (or 11, whatever you prefer), so I don't think I will be very upset if any one of them kicks the bucket.

It doesn't mean I want anyone of them to die, nor that I don't care for the other characters (outside most of the Konoha whatever), and I understand perfectly for fans not wanting to see their favorite characters to die. But it's a war, people will die, and frankly I'm surprise it took THIS LONG for a supporting or recurring character to finally die. I'm surprise some of the more minor characters haven't died at this point......

So Obito really was discovered (and presumeably manipulated) by Madara. I wonder if this means that Obito won't be the final villain and that he will merely be the Darth Vader to Madara's Darth Sidious. Only time will tell...

I was thinking the same thing. This may actually put Obito into a supporting villains role, but I believe that Madara has proven enough that he is worthy to be the main villain. Besides, Darth Vadar was still the main villain in most of the original trilogy. The Darth Sidious was the evil mastermind behind the whole thing, just like Madara. Except Madara has been dead for most of the series, but it was still most likely his plan.............a plan that Obito most likely or not changed for his benefit.

Edited by Transformers03, 11 September 2012 - 08:30 PM.

[PhenixElite]

Well, those are good points. I can see Naruto as Hokage, protecting the village against Sasuke. IF Tsunade does die or retire, the only question would be if Naruto would gain enough respect from the village elders to approve his appointment as Hokage. Of course, being a hero of the Great Ninja War wouldn't hurt...

Tsunade does have her forbidden healing ability, and I can imagine that using it to heal the other Kages and perhaps knit her broken body together, but it would cost her dearly in life expectancy. If she does live, I don't think she will have many years left to live.

Yes i tihnk she s not going to survive this but at least its a scarifice for NS to go on and for Naruto to finally become hokage after war.

But in the moment i would be more intrested whats happening with the gedo statue. Maybe if obito wants to seal the juubi inside him, naruto comes out of obitos dimension and seals the juubi inside himself to defeat madara or smth. like that

[Nate River]

Well, those are good points. I can see Naruto as Hokage, protecting the village against Sasuke. IF Tsunade does die or retire, the only question would be if Naruto would gain enough respect from the village elders to approve his appointment as Hokage. Of course, being a hero of the Great Ninja War wouldn't hurt...

Tsunade does have her forbidden healing ability, and I can imagine that using it to heal the other Kages and perhaps knit her broken body together, but it would cost her dearly in life expectancy. If she does live, I don't think she will have many years left to live.

I don't know, it might be just the right time for everyone to collective tell the elders to screw off. But Kishimoto hasn't set that up, yet. We know they awful, but the stuff we know they did most of the characters don't know. Second, it was the Daimyo that appointed Danzo last time.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I don't know, it might be just the right time for everyone to collective tell the elders to screw off. But Kishimoto hasn't set that up, yet. We know they awful, but the stuff we know they did most of the characters don't know. Second, it was the Daimyo that appointed Danzo last time.

i just dont want to see naruto die as a legend because it would be a sh*tty ending.

[PhenixElite]

i just dont want to see naruto die as a legend because it would be a sh*tty ending.

Not going to happen would destroy the whole manga and everything naruto wanted to reach.

[六道仙人]

the real Naruto is in front of Bee.. There were two narutos... One was in front of kakashi and Gai and he was a kage bunshin just like noticed Madara. The real Naruto is in front of Hachibi.. You can just notice it if you take a look very well...

[Nate River]

i just dont want to see naruto die as a legend because it would be a sh*tty ending.

Given the tragic history of well, every Team 7 we know about, and the whole surpassing the previous generation thing, I imagine that they will all live.

[tricksie]

Just caught up. Wow. Just wow.

I agree that Tsunade might live yet. And I'm disappointed that the whole Obito/Tobi/Madara thing wasn't more creative.

[alexander]

Just caught up. Wow. Just wow.

I agree that Tsunade might live yet. And I'm disappointed that the whole Obito/Tobi/Madara thing wasn't more creative.

I still think this development is a lot more interesting then the war arc in general, most of the fights were against enemies that we didn't know and we didn't really cared, but this one, it really got me interested in the series in a way that didn't happened in a long while.

[rocci]

i think we should read the chapter from mangastream translation it more make sense rather the early scan.

and tsunade will death.

[Transformers03]

Just caught up. Wow. Just wow.

I agree that Tsunade might live yet. And I'm disappointed that the whole Obito/Tobi/Madara thing wasn't more creative.

I still think this development is a lot more interesting then the war arc in general, most of the fights were against enemies that we didn't know and we didn't really cared, but this one, it really got me interested in the series in a way that didn't happened in a long while.

I agree with alexander. I said this before, but even though certain things have become a little bit predictable, I'm still enjoying this story because this is a story wanted to be told. The fact that I/we have been able predict what happens next actually makes feel prideful, as I like it when my predictions become true.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I must say this chapter was great and things are truly heating up. It seems like the pieces are finally coming together. I hope Kishi knows what he's doing. This looks like a battle they can't win yet. I got a bad feeling that the summon might wake up anytime. There are some gruesome shots in this chapter. Madara does seem final villain the way it goes down. Looks like another example of old generation taking down new generation and up to them to end the problem. Looking forward to see how everything goes down.

Okay, about Tsunade's possible death. I am not a fan of her death equal development for NS in mutual and individual, but it seems like that could be the case. I can't confirm it but it seems like her sentence really worries me. They all in the same health, which is like 10% left in them. That said if Tsunade does another healing technique to them, it seems like her time is up. I hate to say this, but it seems like she will get her final closure through death. Most likely, we will hear everything that she felt from the past to now.

Now, let's talk about her aftermath. I do believe Sakura will get a development from this because they are close. Reread the manga to see how much she care for Tsunade, and it's not just because she's the Hokage. She knows her well enough to be close. If you remember Sakura telling Shikamaru to do some research, she was sadden that Tsunade is feeling really hurt and she knows it. Not to mention, I feel like they are close when they hold hands, waiting for Naruto to finish the fight. It's a sign of good friendship and Kishi put a work to it. For a relationship that is shown small compared to others, it still shows you that their bonds are close. She needed a cheer up because she felt bad as well for Tsunade's injury. Let's not forget how overjoyed she was when Tsunade woke up.

As for Naruto, yes, he will get a development as well. I can already imagine him flashbacking the moment when he first met her. They are close as well as shown many times. Tsunade is the one that put over Naruto as a savior of Konoha during Pain invasion. Naruto might feel bad to have that one argument about Jiraiya death if you remember. Granted I believe it's been taken care of, but stuff like this hunts Naruto. He will get the development for many ways and probably it will be the right time to start thinking about leadership before becoming Hokage. Not saying he will be once she dies, but when the time comes, he must be ready.

As for NS, there are multiple ways. One I could see Naruto holding Sakura as she cries heavily, not to mention Naruto will be upset too. Remember, both of them are close to Tsunade. Once they both go through their developments, they could share their thoughts on the news and probably talk over that Tsunade wants them and the village to stay strong. I believe Naruto will end up cheering Sakura up after the talk, which proceed her to smile gently. Shizune will talk to Sakura, of course, but doubt that Kishi will dismiss Naruto from Sakura. Again, they are close to Tsunade.

Look, I am not a fan of the idea, but if it has to be this way, well damn him and so be it. The real question is: If she's going to die, when? Time is ticking and this could be huge. Be prepare.

[neoshadow]

@NaruSaku4Life3g

I get what you mean, I had the thought that Tsunade's death could be the catalyst for Naruto and Sakura to get together but even though I'd accept it, I wouldn't be fond of it, I want them to get together with minimal outside influence, if Tsunade's death was the cause then whats to say that it was just grief that pushed them.

Its hard to know when Tsunade said to worry about her body later if she meant that there is a chance to save her or these are her last moments. Personally I think Tsunade should die if it means that the other Kages can assist Naruto and Bee. When she was first introduced she was incredibly jaded in what the role of the Hokage was, if her last act as Hokage is a way to save the Kage and help everyone then that would be a great testament to how far she has come and she will die a hero. But even though I think she should die I want her to hold on a little longer at least to have final words with Naruto, Sakura and Shizune.

If she does die I'd be interested to know how Orochimaru feels, when he first died we got the moments with Tsunade and Jiraiya reflecting on it, it would be interesting to know what his thoughts on being the last Sannin is.

One thing is if Naruto becomes Hokage at the end of the war, where does that leave Sasuke, will it push him into an even more villainous role and he will directly attack Konoha forcing Naruto to protect it.

[Nefertieh]

I feel kind of sad with my own FC, is hard to read some comments saying that they will be happy now that it seems that Tsunade will die, Sakura can finally get her own development, I'm really angry at Kishimoto for killing Jiraiya, and I will be 7 times angrier if Tsunade die I don't care about any Sakura development, I feel that it can happen without Tsunade dying, she doesn't need to understand Sasuke and Naruto's pain, he just needs to develop her character without killing anyone dear to her, Shizune and Naruto.

You also know why this suck FC? It suck because Tsunade wanted to See Nawaki become Hokage but he dei, then she place her hope on Dan but he also die, know that Naruto the last person she place her faith on is close to become Hokage she might die.

Why Kishi needed place Tsunade 3 times on the verge of death?

Damn this Manga is so freaking frustrating.

Tsunade's death was somewhat foreshadowed in the Pein arc. In fact, I was surprised she did not stay in a permanent coma. There are other ways to develop Sakura, but killing Tsunade would be probably the only way for Sakura to empathize with Sasuke and Naruto. That being said, I don't think she was killed off solely to develop Naruto and Sakura, but also Kakashi. Remember, Kakashi is next in line for the title of Hokage.

Tsunade knows Naruto will become Hokage, she said so herself in the end of her introduction arc.

Edited by Nefertieh, 12 September 2012 - 02:45 AM.

[shadow_Uzumaki]

I like how Madara's all, "God, I die for a few years and everyone's betraying Akatsuki and generally being impudent kids. What happen to planning and strategy?"

I'd like to see Madara go, "Why, back in my day...." Which he pretty much did during his fight with the Kages.....

[Don-kun]

Tsunade's death was somewhat foreshadowed in the Pein arc. In fact, I was surprised she did not stay in a permanent coma. There are other ways to develop Sakura, but killing Tsunade would be probably the only way for Sakura to empathize with Sasuke and Naruto. That being said, I don't think she was killed off solely to develop Naruto and Sakura, but also Kakashi. Remember, Kakashi is next in line for the title of Hokage.

Tsunade knows Naruto will become Hokage, she said so herself in the end of her introduction arc.

Tsunade cheated death 3 times already why put her in a place to die for the 4 time after Dan ask her to live more he is not ready to see her yet.

Plus that Panels shows Tsunade want to see Naruto become a fine Hokage, why take that away?

If Kishi find the way to save Tsunade I will become one of his fan in NF, I'm still not over Jiraiya's death and trust me when I say, I want to believe that he is not dead since Kabuto could not find his body, I'm still in denial refusing to believe he is dead.

Edited by NS means logic, 12 September 2012 - 03:09 AM.

[CloudMountainJuror]

Zac! our favorite character! I need you to hold me!

He's not dead!

Tsunade cheated death 3 times already why put her in a place to die for the 4 time after Dan ask her to live more he is not ready to see her yet.

Plus that Panels shows Tsunade want to see Naruto become a fine Hokage, why take that away?

If Kishi find the way to save Tsunade I will become one of his fan in NF, I'm still not over Jiraiya's death and trust me when I say, I want to believe that he is not dead since Kabuto could not find his body, I'm still in denial refusing to believe he is dead.

Thing is, if he wanted her to live, why even cut her in half in the first place? To try to cause suspense in an arc where no main characters have died in a war yet? Yeah, good job with that Kishi.
If Tsunade doesn't die from this, then it'll just be a pointless, wasted, failed attempt at causing "suspense" in a story that already is severely lacking it.
I mean, look at me. My favorite character, Gaara, is laying on the ground. Bleeding. Not moving. Why do I not seem to care (aside from that little joke I made a second ago with Leo)? Because I know Kishi won't kill him. Because I know he doesn't have the guts to. And this knowledge causes a huuuge lack of attachment to what's happening in the story.

Edited by zacrathedemon5, 12 September 2012 - 03:26 AM.