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Posted 09 April 2012 - 12:26 AM

QUOTE (Konan-chan @ Apr 8 2012, 08:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The manga is starting to confuse me with all of this..... Anyways, I wouldn't say it's the entire goal of the manga, that sounds a bit exagerated if you ask me. To be honest, I think Sasuke will die. I just can't imagine Sasuke coming back to village without him being executed at first sight, (he's a nationally recongnized criminal after all)

As for Team 7, the very idea of them being together again doesn't sit with me very well. After all that they have been through, don't you think it's going to be awkward? Very awkward....?

Oh and one last thing..... Has Sasuke been using drugs? I could have sworn that I read that in a chapter.... Maybe the drugs will one day have a horrible negative effect on his body and he'll die from that. mellow.gif


Well it isn't the entire goal true but its part of it. Sasuke could die it's not out of the question. Like I said, 50% chance he'll live, 50% he'll die. I honestly don't know what will happen to
Sasuke besides the fact that he'll turn good. I really don't know if Sasuke will live or not. Sasuke returning to the village is far-fetched and despite how much I want that, I'm not claiming that Sasuke
will return to Konoha. I just hope he does. It won't be easy for him and he needs to make up for all the horrible deeds he's done(I'm sure he'll regret everything) but I think that if he helps kill Tobi with Naruto then the villages would accept him somewhat since he helped in all but even then more would be done because they still wouldn't trust him. Naruto would have to play a huge part in Sasuke being accepted again in Konoha. I know that Sasuke would have an awkward time being with Team 7 again and they'll never be able to forget the things Sasuke did, not fully. And Sasuke would regret that. So over time, maybe the Team 7 bond would be repaired and Sasuke could earn their trust again. I believe that is the perfect redemption for Sasuke instead of just realizing his mistake and dying. I would be sad because Sasuke couldn't make up for all the things he did sad.gif . Despite everything, I still like Sasuke as a character.

As for the drugs statement, I think he did use drug enhancement. Maybe he might die from that.

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 09 April 2012 - 12:27 AM.

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 12:27 AM

Here's a question: why has Kishimoto been so slow to give us any development this last year? SS and NH have at least been getting attention recently. And there was an opportunity to do it too; that one chapter were he saves her and Shizune from that pair of Veggies. That was a perfect opportunity; instead we get the "Hinata needs encouragement because she is insecure about being able to protect Naruto despite the fact that in terms of power, he is the last person requiring protection" crap.

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 12:29 AM

QUOTE (Dragunov @ Apr 8 2012, 07:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here's a question: why has Kishimoto been so slow to give us any development this last year? SS and NH have at least been getting attention recently. And there was an opportunity to do it too; that one chapter were he saves her and Shizune from that pair of Veggies. That was a perfect opportunity; instead we get the "Hinata needs encouragement because she is insecure about being able to protect Naruto despite the fact that in terms of power, he is the last person requiring protection" crap.

-NaruSaku doesn't need development to still be standing as of now
-I have no idea why, other than that

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 12:31 AM

QUOTE (Fenris @ Apr 8 2012, 08:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Let's put it this way... in Skyrim, if I kill a chicken, and walk back into the village, I get executed by villagers and guards on sight and a whole mob of angry villagers comes after me.
Sasuke has no chance.
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Sadly, its not out of the question sad.gif . I just hope that doesn't happen

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 12:35 AM

QUOTE (zacrathedemon5 @ Apr 8 2012, 05:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
-NaruSaku doesn't need development to still be standing as of now
-I have no idea why, other than that

But we havent received any attention this year....or the last one at that

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 12:50 AM

QUOTE (Dragunov @ Apr 8 2012, 07:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But we havent received any attention this year....or the last one at that

I have nothing else other than what I've already said, man. laugh.gif I'm out of ideas.

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 12:50 AM

Personally I see three endings for Sasuke.


1. Sasuke survives his fight with Naruto and is found by Suigetsu and Jugo (and maybe Karin), and the three/four rebuild the sound village.

2. Sasuke survives his fight with Naruto, the five Kages choose not to exicute him as a favor to Naruto but give Sasuke a life prison sentence.

3. Sasuke dies in his fight with Naruto.


I'd prefer the first one personally.

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 12:50 AM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Apr 8 2012, 02:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't think saying "Second Choice" is the correct term here.

Naruto would not be Sakura's second choice of love, he would be her new love.


Exactly. I hate this term "Second choice" because the way people use it sounds so derogatory.
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Posted 09 April 2012 - 12:52 AM

QUOTE (Jake @ Apr 8 2012, 07:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Personally I see three endings for Sasuke.


1. Sasuke survives his fight with Naruto and is found by Suigetsu and Jugo (and maybe Karin), and the three/four rebuild the sound village.

2. Sasuke survives his fight with Naruto, the five Kages choose not to exicute him as a favor to Naruto but give Sasuke a life prison sentence.

3. Sasuke dies in his fight with Naruto.


I'd prefer the first one personally.

I've never considered the first one before... Huh.

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 01:07 AM

QUOTE (Jake @ Apr 8 2012, 09:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Personally I see three endings for Sasuke.


1. Sasuke survives his fight with Naruto and is found by Suigetsu and Jugo (and maybe Karin), and the three/four rebuild the sound village.

2. Sasuke survives his fight with Naruto, the five Kages choose not to exicute him as a favor to Naruto but give Sasuke a life prison sentence.

3. Sasuke dies in his fight with Naruto.


I'd prefer the first one personally.


All possible. Though I prefer none of them.

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 02:01 AM

QUOTE (xxRomanceGirlxx @ Apr 8 2012, 08:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well it isn't the entire goal true but its part of it. Sasuke could die it's not out of the question. Like I said, 50% chance he'll live, 50% he'll die. I honestly don't know what will happen to
Sasuke besides the fact that he'll turn good. I really don't know if Sasuke will live or not. Sasuke returning to the village is far-fetched and despite how much I want that, I'm not claiming that Sasuke
will return to Konoha. I just hope he does. It won't be easy for him and he needs to make up for all the horrible deeds he's done(I'm sure he'll regret everything) but I think that if he helps kill Tobi with Naruto then the villages would accept him somewhat since he helped in all but even then more would be done because they still wouldn't trust him. Naruto would have to play a huge part in Sasuke being accepted again in Konoha. I know that Sasuke would have an awkward time being with Team 7 again and they'll never be able to forget the things Sasuke did, not fully. And Sasuke would regret that. So over time, maybe the Team 7 bond would be repaired and Sasuke could earn their trust again. I believe that is the perfect redemption for Sasuke instead of just realizing his mistake and dying. I would be sad because Sasuke couldn't make up for all the things he did sad.gif . Despite everything, I still like Sasuke as a character.

As for the drugs statement, I think he did use drug enhancement. Maybe he might die from that.



Like Jake mention
1. Sasuke survives his fight with Naruto and is found by Suigetsu and Jugo (and maybe Karin), and the three/four rebuild the sound village. no try to earn redemption for the things they did.

after Kishimoto brought back team hawk, I don't see Sasuke going back to Konoha, maybe in an epilogue, but not at this time Sasuke did some mess up things around the Naruto world, plus he will not abandon team hawk, if you look at the latest chapters Sasuke is going to receive help by them again.

Also after he said that he wants to kiil the Konaha villager, I only see one result, he make peace with Naruto, Sakura, and Kakashi them leave them in good terms, then in an epilogue we see team 7 smiling again, Keep in mind that he need time to be forgiven by many of the people he hurt and only time will really heal team 7.

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 02:57 AM

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Like Jake mention
1. Sasuke survives his fight with Naruto and is found by Suigetsu and Jugo (and maybe Karin), and the three/four rebuild the sound village. no try to earn redemption for the things they did.

after Kishimoto brought back team hawk, I don't see Sasuke going back to Konoha, maybe in an epilogue, but not at this time Sasuke did some mess up things around the Naruto world, plus he will not abandon team hawk, if you look at the latest chapters Sasuke is going to receive help by them again.

Also after he said that he wants to kiil the Konaha villager, I only see one result, he make peace with Naruto, Sakura, and Kakashi them leave them in good terms, then in an epilogue we see team 7 smiling again, Keep in mind that he need time to be forgiven by many of the people he hurt and only time will really heal team 7.


Pretty much what I think. I want Sasuke to return to Konoha but at the same time I don't want them to just accept him like nothing happened. A lot happened and Sasuke has made too many mistakes. I would seriously be angry if thats what would happen. Not only is it not realistic, but Sasuke wouldn't have earned it the way he should. Agreed. Sasuke wouldn't return to Konoha
right away. Even when he renounces his goal to destroy Konoha, he wouldn't just live there again so soon. He would have gotten over most of his hatred but would need time to truly accept being a member of Konoha again. So he probably would realistically, be alone for another few years until he's ready and then join Team 7 again. Still I would like Sasuke to earn his redemption and when he decides to join Konoha again, he needs to earn the privelige to.

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 09 April 2012 - 02:59 AM.

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 02:59 AM

I wouldn't worry about Sasuke attacking Konoha. Remember he said a few chapters ago that he would not fatally harm any Konoha shinobi (or the village itself) until he defeated Naruto? We all know that when he fights Naruto, that will be the end of the line for his antics.

Not to mention Sasuke is helping out the allied forces by defeating Kabuto, and in turn stopping edo tensei. I have a feeling Itachi convinced Sasuke to help him so that he'll have a chance to redeem himself in the eyes of the Kages and the others. After he his turned by Naruto, I think he'd be able to return to Konoha and Team 7.

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 03:06 AM

QUOTE (AzureWaters @ Apr 8 2012, 10:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wouldn't worry about Sasuke attacking Konoha. Remember he said a few chapters ago that he would not fatally harm any Konoha shinobi (or the village itself) until he defeated Naruto? We all know that when he fights Naruto, that will be the end of the line for his antics.

Not to mention Sasuke is helping out the allied forces by defeating Kabuto, and in turn stopping edo tensei. I have a feeling Itachi convinced Sasuke to help him so that he'll have a chance to redeem himself in the eyes of the Kages and the others. After he his turned by Naruto, I think he'd be able to return to Konoha and Team 7.


Thank you AzureWaters happy.gif. I really needed that. Maybe Sasuke's fate isn't going to be so sad after all. This gives my hope that Sasuke joining Team 7 again isn't as far-fetched as some say.
My feelings towards Sasuke are love/hate. I just want the old good Sasuke back that used to be one of my favorite characters,. This evil one, though I still like him, makes me
angry(like in recent chapter, he brought up destroying Konoha again and for stupid reasons). I sympathize with his situation and believe that Sasuke is more confused than truly evil.
Though I insult his character becuase of the way he's acting still. Sasuke just really makes me mad sometimes sleep.gif .

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 03:49 AM

QUOTE (xxRomanceGirlxx @ Apr 8 2012, 10:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thank you AzureWaters happy.gif. I really needed that. Maybe Sasuke's fate isn't going to be so sad after all. This gives my hope that Sasuke joining Team 7 again isn't as far-fetched as some say.
My feelings towards Sasuke are love/hate. I just want the old good Sasuke back that used to be one of my favorite characters,. This evil one, though I still like him, makes me
angry(like in recent chapter, he brought up destroying Konoha again and for stupid reasons). I sympathize with his situation and believe that Sasuke is more confused than truly evil.
Though I insult his character becuase of the way he's acting still. Sasuke just really makes me mad sometimes sleep.gif .

I feel the exact opposite. I despised Sasuke as a "good" guy. He was a total jerk. I actually don't mind him too much as a villain. It fits him more, I think. His jerk-ish behavior never meshed well with the "hero" role that he was assigned in Part 1.

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 04:12 AM

QUOTE (zacrathedemon5 @ Apr 8 2012, 11:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I feel the exact opposite. I despised Sasuke as a "good" guy. He was a total jerk. I actually don't mind him too much as a villain. It fits him more, I think. His jerk-ish behavior never meshed well with the "hero" role that he was assigned in Part 1.


Well yes Sasuke was jerk and I admit that aspect of him annoyed me. But what I like is that Team 7 made Sasuke almost happy and he almost forgot about revenge against Itachi.
Sasuke did have his moments, though rare, in Part 1. Sasuke will always naturally be a jerk(It's in his nature really) but he did have a nice side if you looked closely.
Sasuke was a good guy at heart(jaded but good) and he wasn't heartless or anything. I miss that Sasuke. I like his role as an anti-hero(Like Sesshomaru from Inuyasha)
and I think that fit him the best. The villian is fitting to an extent but like I said, I see him as more confused than evil.

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 04:16 AM

QUOTE (xxRomanceGirlxx @ Apr 9 2012, 04:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I see him as more confused than evil.



Confused uhhh

Mhmmm

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 04:26 AM

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Confused uhhh

Mhmmm


Well I'm not saying he isn't evil. There is definitely darkness inside him and evil too. But what I mean by confused is that he's so blinded by grief and confusion concerning Itachi, is that the
massacre of the Uchiha Clan is his confusion. He won't acknowledge the mistakes his Clan made and is obviously having trouble believing the truth to an extent(Which is why he's demanding the
truth from Itachi), likely that his Clan did anything wrong. That's what he doesn't want to face that and is in return blaming the whole Konoha. He sees Konoha as 'evil', not his Clan that
wanted power. He won't accept it nor believe it. That's what I mean by confused. Does that make any sense at all or am just babbling laugh.gif?

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 06:50 AM

well i found the link of masashi kishimoto's interview where he stated Sakura really loves Sasuke.

here is the link:
http://otakucy.com/m...ate-than-never/

I hope this one was a fake but it doesn't seem to be fake! shamefulcry0js.gif

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 06:57 AM

QUOTE (lord287 @ Apr 9 2012, 02:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
well i found the link of masashi kishimoto's interview where he stated Sakura really loves Sasuke.

here is the link:
http://otakucy.com/m...ate-than-never/

I hope this one was a fake but it doesn't seem to be fake! shamefulcry0js.gif


It is fake. It's not from Viz, it's a summary of the fake version of the Jump Festa 2009 interview taken from Narutofan. With a picture of Kishimoto slapped on the page that you can get off wikipedia. You have to just shake your head at what some people will do...

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