

Why is NaruHina the fan-preferred couple?
#122
Posted 20 October 2010 - 11:53 PM
Come to think of it, a relationship with Hinata should be best interpreted as one-night stand. They pretty much have nothing in common, no patience or devotion for each other, no interaction. On what basis would they be able to build a durable relationship.
#123
Posted 21 October 2010 - 12:10 AM
oh God there is so many things wrong with that.
#124
Posted 21 October 2010 - 02:22 AM

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#125
Posted 21 October 2010 - 03:26 AM
the fact that she has big tatas

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#126
Posted 21 October 2010 - 03:30 AM
It looks like you're someone else maybe someone hacked your account and is pretending to be you. You're also saying that Naruto and Sakura are brother and sister you're giving the main pointless reason for NH fans to defend their pairing when that has been proved dozens of time to be wrong.
#127
Posted 21 October 2010 - 04:01 AM
"They don't want none"
#128
Posted 21 October 2010 - 04:13 AM
First you say that the manga proves NaruHina. Then you say the anime has the proof. Which one should we follow? The anime has contradicted the manga and since the manga came out first the manga is the first source. According to Kishimoto, the manga is more canon as he makes it himself. Anime is made by another studio BASED on the manga.
Two, you said that Kishimoto said that NaruHina is canon and yet you also say he lies. Which one is it? He can't lie AND tell the truth at the same time. BTW, I don't ever recall him saying NaruHina was canon. At all.
So let me guess if Kishimoto says "NaruHina is canon" he is telling the truth, but if he says "NaruSaku is canon" it is a lie? So no matter what, he is always lying. Yeah that's makes sence.
Three, Naruto has not been thinking about Hinata close to a 100 chapters now. If anything, he only thought about her once when he was talking to his mother, but then again he thought about everyone including Sakura so I guess Naruto is in love with everyone if "thinking" about someone automatically makes them in love with them.
Four, you have contradicted yourself Kenny so many times that there too much to even list. If I had the time, I would point them out.
Five, we all that by now confessions mean diddly squat. So unless Naruto walks up to Hinata, says he loves her, and kisses her, marries her and has 3.5 children. Then it is not canon. Same goes for Sakura. And no, the "off screen things" don't exists. Straight forward or none at all. We have yet to see any relationship truly make that final push though NaruSaku has come close.
All that matters is what happens ON screen.
Edited by James S Cassidy, 21 October 2010 - 04:15 AM.
#129
Posted 21 October 2010 - 07:17 AM
......Seriously dude, if your trying to make us all laugh, you're going the right way about it.
Whatever, let's get back to the actual topic before all this blows up and gets out of hand.
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Devotion should be owed not earned Only you determine what you're worth
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#130
Posted 21 October 2010 - 07:26 AM
I never got NH, not from the beginning, not ever. I could see the "logic" but it was more cheap, biased excuses to me.
#131
Posted 21 October 2010 - 08:28 AM
They just somehow appeal to me. Both are thinker who chose to act stupid 90% of the time. Nvm the fact that they interacted with each other, and somewhat curious/interested about the other to actually do something, more than NaruHina ever did. In fact NaruHina would be even less canon than NaruTobi if not for the confession. I just can't comprehend the kind of love where both parties did absolute nothing to show their "mutual love and understanding"
Back to main topic, since NaruHina is essentially a paring with just kittens, sappy romance and no actual effort in making a stable relationship, it appeals to people who look for easy and quick one-night stand.
Edited by holy_demon, 21 October 2010 - 08:32 AM.
#132
Posted 21 October 2010 - 10:53 AM
For me, it feels like the idea that Sakura would have loved to be chidoried by Sasuke because then Sasuke has touched her.
I mean it's ludicrous and it just seems like Kenny is making ludricrous statements as a joke.
Anyhow on topic, as a former NaruHina shipper (as a side note, when I was a Naruhina shipper, I didn't read the manga at all and watched the anime very rarely), I mainly liked the couple since I felt Sasuke could turn to like Sakura and that Naruto should have Hinata since Sakura was going to get together with Sasuke. So it was pretty much just to piggyback by Sasusaku deal.
I jumped ship to narusaku after I saw the first episode of Naruto shippuden. As for why I jumped, I don't know... it just feels right to me.
Edited by dracopoi, 21 October 2010 - 10:54 AM.
#133
Posted 21 October 2010 - 05:58 PM
Lesson 1: ABSOLUTE PROOF of NaruHina
http://www.youtube.c...feature=related
http://www.youtube.c...feature=related
Lesson 2: Manga proof.
Although the manga is vastly inferior to the anime and is in now way as canon, even the manga proves NaruHina. Check out chapter 450!
http://manga.bleache...450-page-4.html
Notice the look on Naruto's face. The girl he supposedly loves is holding onto him, but he is looking elsewhere. Indeed, he is looking into the crowd. And what does he see?
http://manga.bleache...450-page-5.html
Whose face is it on the first panel after Sakura says "thank you?" It's Hinata. Naruto was looking at Hinata and she was smiling at him. Not only proof that he doesn't love Sakura anymore than a sister, but proof that Hinata was on his mind.
Then there's Kushina's statement: http://manga.bleache...04-page-12.html
There are ONLY two interpretations to this. Both which prove NaruHina.
1) When you think about it, Kushina is NOTHING like Sakura. They have absolutely NOTHING in common. If anything, Kushina in like Naruto, but also just like Hinata. Hinata was bullied by Neji, but stood up to him. Sakura never stood up to anyone. And both Kushina and Hinata have long hair. So when Kushina said find a girl like her, she meant Hinata.
2) Although she does say don't pick a weird one. There is ample reason to think that Sakura is the weird one (a girl with super strength? Bizarre). But even if you still consider Hinata the weird one, Naruto doesn't reflect on Kushina's thoughts about what kind of women to pursue in the next chapter. Why? Because he has made up his mind and has settled for the weird one.

http://manga.bleache...505-page-3.html
This picture alone speaks volumes. Notice how both Naruto and Hinata are looking in the same direction whereas Sakura is looking in the opposite direction. Kishimoto is a big fan of symbolism and this is his way of saying that Sakura will follow someone other than Naruto.
Edited by Kenny-kun, 21 October 2010 - 06:00 PM.
#134
Posted 21 October 2010 - 06:05 PM
(Thanks for the video link Gravenimage)
#135
Posted 21 October 2010 - 06:13 PM
First you say that the manga proves NaruHina. Then you say the anime has the proof. Which one should we follow? The anime has contradicted the manga and since the manga came out first the manga is the first source. According to Kishimoto, the manga is more canon as he makes it himself. Anime is made by another studio BASED on the manga.
#136
Posted 21 October 2010 - 10:45 PM
"They don't want none"
#137
Guest_Kodachi Claws_*
Posted 22 October 2010 - 12:01 AM
A few things you need to understand in regard to manga and anime adaptations: The original creators do not have much say in how the animated series goes. They can give a few suggestions, but that's it. The creators are generally too busy with their own work, the manga, to talk with the studios on a regular basis. It would also be quite pointless for him to direct episodes that he already wrote and drew, which is why someone else takes the helm.Even if Kishi came up with a few ideas on how to improve his work in animated form or for a filler arc, he would have no control over how it went or how everyone is characterized. A studio buys the rights, and from there that's it. The studio as far as they are concerned can screw it up entirely but everything is fine so long as it sells well. Since it's main job is to promote the manga, shonen jump could care less if it's a poor adaptation, if people like it, it means they will also buy their manga. There are a couple of instances where the animation team will address the creator's concerns, but usually they just let it go. Watsuki blatantly stated he did not like the Kenshin OVAs, and Akamatsu was not too thrilled with how Negima turned out. To say the anime is better is a matter of opinion; even if that was true, it would not erase the manga from being canon. And such a thing is a rarity, as generally the manga is viewed as better than its anime adaptation (usually due to filler inserted), the only exception I can think of amongst fans perceiving the anime as better would be Yu Yu Hakusho, and that's probably because it was made after the manga ended (no need for fillers, and perhaps the creator had more control).
Also, I'm not seeing the sibling relationship between Naruto and Sakura you and many others speak of. Early in Part 2, Naruto keeps asking Sakura out on dates, even in the anime. If I viewed a girl as a sister, I would simply say "Wanna hang out somewhere?" Then there was the time he was thinking of peeking on her in the hot springs, indicating he has some sexual interest in her. When Sai asked why doesn't Naruto tell Sakura his feelings, he responds "How could I?" If he viewed Sakura as you say he does, he would have simply said "I don't think of her like that." On Sakura's end, that hug was NOT a "bro"-hug. Any of your sisters hug you like that, where they cup the back of your head? Across cultures, that's a sign of intimacy. Also, even if you think Sakura was completely dishonest during her confession (and we doubt that), it was used because they knew Naruto has romantic feelings for Sakura, and if she viewed him as a brother, there would've been so many other things she could have said, but instead she said "I Love You" in a romantic fashion, not a sibling fashion.
As for Kushina, the only similarity I see between her and Hinata is long hair. She's not an EXACT duplicate of Sakura (I think that would promp Naruto to NOT pursue Sakura romantically), but they do have similarities (short-tempered, red-palate colored hair, hated a certain part of their body which the man they originally did not like loved). Not to mention Naruto viewed Hinata as weird, and even told her; Kushina told him not to pick a weird one, remember?

And sorry, but I don't see how Kishimoto could be serious about Hinata and not Sakura. Even when the later was getting the short end of the stick, she has always been far more prominent than Hinata. Kishimoto also stated that since her creation he grew quite fond of her, and said that from now on he'll try to give her a more heroic role. So, I don't see how he would suddenly give Hinata a more prominent role. If Kishimoto wanted to make NaruHina more likely if not canon, and if that hug was sibling like as you say, what was stopping her from running over to Naruto and giving him a kiss? Naruto could have taken the time to at least talk to Hinata if he developed any feelings for her, like right after defeating Nagato and declaring his ultimatum to Sasuke. He DID have time to hang out with her then, but he didn't. Could he have "confessed" off-screen somewhere in between that we'll see later? Possibly. But it doesn't make much sense to take nearly 100 chapters to show that scene and have Hinata in the background. As far as we know, he never addressed her feelings, and if I were in Hinata's shoes, I'd be pissed. If Kishimoto wants NaruHina to happen, he's doing a terrible job of making it believable when it does
Also, you are by all means entitled to your opinion and allowed to debate it, so long as you've just come here to hang out and have a good time, and respect everyone else's preference. But you really need remember where you are, and understand that you're not going to sway a good portion of this board. If you're here simply to troll your dislike of this site's choice of pairing, there are several more Naruto sites that will allow you to do so.
Edited by Kodachi Claws, 22 October 2010 - 12:27 AM.
#138
Posted 22 October 2010 - 12:04 AM
Kenny has gone bye-bye, Toasty. What have you got left?
(If you get the reference.)
I don't really know if it is serious or joking Kenny-kun, but whatever helps you sleep at night I guess. Sorry, but you are wrong and playing it up like every NaruHina fan does like making up a church building where trees are in a picture with Hinata sitting down while Naruto, walking with Sakura, doesn't even pay attention to her.
If you are joking, you are not funny. Write better material.
Also Kodachi Claws, good job mate. I couldn't have said it better myself.
Edited by James S Cassidy, 22 October 2010 - 12:09 AM.
#139
Posted 22 October 2010 - 12:11 AM
Lesson 1: ABSOLUTE PROOF of NaruHina
http://www.youtube.c...feature=related
http://www.youtube.c...feature=related
Lesson 2: Manga proof.
Although the manga is vastly inferior to the anime and is in now way as canon, even the manga proves NaruHina. Check out chapter 450!
http://manga.bleache...450-page-4.html
Notice the look on Naruto's face. The girl he supposedly loves is holding onto him, but he is looking elsewhere. Indeed, he is looking into the crowd. And what does he see?
http://manga.bleache...450-page-5.html
Whose face is it on the first panel after Sakura says "thank you?" It's Hinata. Naruto was looking at Hinata and she was smiling at him. Not only proof that he doesn't love Sakura anymore than a sister, but proof that Hinata was on his mind.
Then there's Kushina's statement: http://manga.bleache...04-page-12.html
There are ONLY two interpretations to this. Both which prove NaruHina.
1) When you think about it, Kushina is NOTHING like Sakura. They have absolutely NOTHING in common. If anything, Kushina in like Naruto, but also just like Hinata. Hinata was bullied by Neji, but stood up to him. Sakura never stood up to anyone. And both Kushina and Hinata have long hair. So when Kushina said find a girl like her, she meant Hinata.
2) Although she does say don't pick a weird one. There is ample reason to think that Sakura is the weird one (a girl with super strength? Bizarre). But even if you still consider Hinata the weird one, Naruto doesn't reflect on Kushina's thoughts about what kind of women to pursue in the next chapter. Why? Because he has made up his mind and has settled for the weird one.

http://manga.bleache...505-page-3.html
This picture alone speaks volumes. Notice how both Naruto and Hinata are looking in the same direction whereas Sakura is looking in the opposite direction. Kishimoto is a big fan of symbolism and this is his way of saying that Sakura will follow someone other than Naruto.
Everything is biased you're not proving any solid evidence of NH funny that most of the NH proof is from the anime duh fillers.

The manga only showed Hinata crying obviously because she was relief that Naruto returned to the village safe and sound.....okay your point is???


You're allso using the picture of the rookies to prove that NH is canon Hinata is looking the opposite way like Kishi is trying to hide her while Naruto looks prefectly happy and Sakura looking at him with a warm smile (I really don't get what you're trying to prove with the picture honestly).
I already know you're not Kenny-kun some hacker that hijacked his account.
Edited by Gravenimage, 22 October 2010 - 12:14 AM.
#140
Posted 22 October 2010 - 12:47 AM
Second, this part needs to heard for any single NaruHina fan who tried to use Chapter 450 as their so-called proof (and NaruSaku fans can use this) :
"If you are SO in love with the guy, why the f-ing hell didn't you have the guts to knock Sakura away and hugged/kiss him instead?!" And don't you dare say Sakura was closer/near to him or Kishimoto just drew Sakura near Naruto just for the benefit.
And third, I'm going have to close the thread because now its like another debate with the same arguments.
... Scratch that... I might as well merge this to the debate thread.
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