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#121 ciardha

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Posted 06 June 2010 - 01:55 AM

QUOTE (Insurrection @ Jun 5 2010, 01:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is you going backwards onto topic. dry.gif


Try, backing up my point with manga canon, thus Sakura is older. Debate over.

And pink hearts, yellow stars you are wise not to trust the American fan created Naruto wikis. Take a look at any entry and you'll find things that totally contradict manga canon- the entry on Shikaku Nara has a quite laughable complete contradiction of the character's canon stated preferences in women. It says "Shikaku, like Shikamaru doesn't like strong willed women." I about fell out of my chair laughing.

Edited by ciardha, 06 June 2010 - 02:07 AM.

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Posted 06 June 2010 - 02:00 AM

QUOTE (Mik3 @ Jun 5 2010, 08:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Who gives a ISH about NaruHina theorys FROM Narutofan. Why do we always need to mention them


Self-esteem issues.

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Posted 06 June 2010 - 02:08 AM

QUOTE (Mik3 @ Jun 5 2010, 06:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Who gives a ISH about NaruHina theorys FROM Narutofan. Why do we always need to mention them


They will always bring Hinata in anything but Kushina reminding Naruto of her love for him its highly unlikely.
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Posted 06 June 2010 - 02:25 AM

QUOTE (ciardha @ Jun 5 2010, 08:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Try, backing up my point with manga canon, thus Sakura is older. Debate over.

And pink hearts, yellow stars you are wise not to trust the American fan created Naruto wikis. Take a look at any entry and you'll find things that totally contradict manga canon- the entry on Shikaku Nara has a quite laughable complete contradiction of the character's canon stated preferences in women. It says "Shikaku, like Shikamaru doesn't like strong willed women." I about fell out of my chair laughing.


For someone who speaks about how high and mighty you are about avoiding conflict you sure are a walking contridiction.

I still think Naruto is older, that's my opinion.

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QUOTE (Mik3 @ Jun 5 2010, 08:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Who gives a ISH about NaruHina theorys FROM Narutofan. Why do we always need to mention them


Because it's a need for some people on this site like Nate said. And I'm getting tired of it. Even as if we try to not bash anymore some of our own rhetoric is coming off as pompous and entitled.

EDIT: I know it's harsh to say, but I'm just getting tired of coming on this site and having others act like they're better for pointing out errors or think a certain way. Try going to the NS debate thread and have the same arguement every 5 pages of what Sakura does that Hinata doesn't or what the rest of the fanbase does. This whole Kushina arguement we've been having about who she looks like more, I been involved in too, but I feel we've been more focused on that instead of the purpose of what Kushina will say or why.how is she here now? I understand we're the NaruSaku fan club but aren't we Naruto fans too?

Will this be a mini cycle on the Whirlpool village, or will the story of Minato and Kushina be in Minato Gaiden? Will we be diverted for an answerpaloza or have just a simple talk?

Edited by Insurrection, 06 June 2010 - 02:49 AM.


#125 ciardha

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Posted 06 June 2010 - 02:49 AM

QUOTE (Insurrection @ Jun 5 2010, 10:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For someone who speaks about how high and mighty you are about avoiding conflict you sure are a walking contridiction.


Insurrection, to address somewhat inappropriately worded question, there is debate and there is conflict. I do not avoid debate, debate is a learning experience. I was debating your points and giving strong evidence that points to Sakura being the older. Your support was weak and not connected to any definitive manga or even databook evidence.
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#126 Insurrection

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Posted 06 June 2010 - 03:10 AM

QUOTE (ciardha @ Jun 5 2010, 09:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Insurrection, to address somewhat inappropriately worded question, there is debate and there is conflict. I do not avoid debate, debate is a learning experience. I was debating your points and giving strong evidence that points to Sakura being the older. Your support was weak and not connected to any definitive manga or even databook evidence.


I believed that Naruto is older than Sakura for several reasons, my reasoning states that Naruto failed the academy exam 2 times previously, but you state that schooling is different however that can be countered as well as the schooling in the world of Kishimoto is also the possibility of being derived of his own design, even if one knows school from their own experience it is possible that Kishi could create his own version.

Another conclusion to Naruto's age could be in his height as the change in stature was noticable for Naruto being the shortest, height is also no indication of an age, there are people both younger and older who are taller or shorter. I'll point to Ino as another example.

Ino gives the impression of being Sakura's mentor as a child in which Sakura feels overshadowed by Ino as a genin, Ino was born in September and therefore has a higher probability of being older than both Sakura and Naruto. If Ino is in fact older then Sakura and not Naruto then she would be in the class of Team Guy. Because they were the graduating class the year before.

However ultimately the arguement of age is meaningless for both of us, if there is no CANON proof of who is the elder then we could be both right and we can be both wrong. I state that he's older you state she's older therefore it is ultimately a hopeless issue until something is brought up in the manga or anime. Like Jiraiya saying something about dating older women.

So our debate/arguement is nonetheless useless and will be forgotten in a week.

Edited by Insurrection, 06 June 2010 - 04:29 AM.


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Posted 06 June 2010 - 03:22 AM

Come on guys, who cares who is older than who? If it was meant to be important in the story Kishimoto would have made it more obvious. Since it wasn't important, it can just be left to your own judgment. Naruto and Sakura can't be siblings because Sakura has mentioned that her parents annoyed her back in part I and Naruto obviously has no parents alive. ...For some reason his family likes to hang out in his subconscious kruemelmonsteryn0.gif

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Posted 06 June 2010 - 03:28 AM

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So true.

Edited by Insurrection, 06 June 2010 - 04:30 AM.


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Posted 06 June 2010 - 03:38 AM

I just love that picture of Naruto having so many people in his head. laugh.gif
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Posted 06 June 2010 - 03:42 AM

Hm... if I were to write Training for the Job today, Ino would have been seriously outnumbered.

(then again, TftJ couldn't be written, today. Ah, well)

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Posted 06 June 2010 - 04:34 AM

Someone draw a comic of Naruto being followed around by the ghosts in his head for a day!

Naruto: Gah, why can't you all just shut up!
Minato: Don't speak to your mother that way Naruto!
Kyuubi: Be quiet!
Kushina: Watch it!

Naruto stops in front of Sakura holding his head, she looks flattly.

Sakura: Voices in your head?
Naruto: How'd you know Sakura-Chan?
Inner Sakura: Cause it's obvious with your damn screaming! At least I don't do that! Shannaro!
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Note to fanclub: Reason for NaruSaku #121: Voices in their heads

Edited by Insurrection, 06 June 2010 - 04:35 AM.


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Posted 06 June 2010 - 04:10 PM

QUOTE (Insurrection @ Jun 5 2010, 09:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Because it's a need for some people on this site like Nate said. And I'm getting tired of it. Even as if we try to not bash anymore some of our own rhetoric is coming off as pompous and entitled.

EDIT: I know it's harsh to say, but I'm just getting tired of coming on this site and having others act like they're better for pointing out errors or think a certain way. Try going to the NS debate thread and have the same arguement every 5 pages of what Sakura does that Hinata doesn't or what the rest of the fanbase does. This whole Kushina arguement we've been having about who she looks like more, I been involved in too, but I feel we've been more focused on that instead of the purpose of what Kushina will say or why.how is she here now? I understand we're the NaruSaku fan club but aren't we Naruto fans too?

Will this be a mini cycle on the Whirlpool village, or will the story of Minato and Kushina be in Minato Gaiden? Will we be diverted for an answerpaloza or have just a simple talk?


I was being a bit facetious when I said that.

I suppose that could be part of it, but I think its mostly that pairings are as about defeating rival fandoms and their pairings as they are about supporting your own.

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Posted 06 June 2010 - 09:31 PM

I'M BACK I'M BACK I'M BACK! AFTER A WEEK OF BEING GONE I'M BACK! WOOO! wow.png

This chapter was COMPLETELY AWESOME! OH WOW! Naruto trying to fight Kyuubi then KUSHINA! *has heart attack*

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Posted 06 June 2010 - 09:52 PM

QUOTE (ShippudenGirl @ Jun 6 2010, 05:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'M BACK I'M BACK I'M BACK! AFTER A WEEK OF BEING GONE I'M BACK! WOOO! wow.png

This chapter was COMPLETELY AWESOME! OH WOW! Naruto trying to fight Kyuubi then KUSHINA! *has heart attack*

trying to fight Kyuubi? I think he was holding his own pretty well tongue.gif

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Posted 06 June 2010 - 09:55 PM

QUOTE (ShippudenGirl @ Jun 7 2010, 12:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'M BACK I'M BACK I'M BACK! AFTER A WEEK OF BEING GONE I'M BACK! WOOO! wow.png

This chapter was COMPLETELY AWESOME! OH WOW! Naruto trying to fight Kyuubi then KUSHINA! *has heart attack*



WELCOME!!! YAY!! 8D YOU ARE BACK! I MISSED YOU! a_squish.gif

And yup it was AWESOME!!!

 

 


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Posted 06 June 2010 - 10:05 PM

QUOTE (pharix @ Jun 6 2010, 02:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
trying to fight Kyuubi? I think he was holding his own pretty well tongue.gif


I just can't help but smirk because Naruto was able to give the Kyuubi a run for his money getting hit by the giant rasengan. Yet Sasuke barely defeated the eight tails with Amaterasu when he was all beat up and worn out, in addition that Taka was almost beat up to death. sleep.gif

Edited by Gravenimage, 06 June 2010 - 10:06 PM.

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Posted 06 June 2010 - 10:18 PM

QUOTE (pharix @ Jun 6 2010, 10:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
trying to fight Kyuubi? I think he was holding his own pretty well tongue.gif


Yeah, ha-ha... he was, I mean this is the most powerful form of chakra in the ninja world so you gotta gove him credit.

QUOTE (Sakura_1_ @ Jun 6 2010, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
WELCOME!!! YAY!! 8D YOU ARE BACK! I MISSED YOU! a_squish.gif

And yup it was AWESOME!!!



THANK YOU!! a_squish.gif th_glomp.gif

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jun 6 2010, 11:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just can't help but smirk because Naruto was able to give the Kyuubi a run for his money getting hit by the giant rasengan. Yet Sasuke barely defeated the eight tails with Amaterasu when he was all beat up and worn out, in addition that Taka was almost beat up to death. sleep.gif


Just more evidence that Naruto could have easily killed/beat up Sasuke on there last confrontation - even if he didn't want to he could've. I'm so proud of our little blonde wow.png Oh yes! Naruto-kun kick some foxy buttox! a_spaz.gif

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Posted 06 June 2010 - 10:30 PM

QUOTE (ShippudenGirl @ Jun 6 2010, 05:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, ha-ha... he was, I mean this is the most powerful form of chakra in the ninja world so you gotta gove him credit.




THANK YOU!! a_squish.gif th_glomp.gif



Just more evidence that Naruto could have easily killed/beat up Sasuke on there last confrontation - even if he didn't want to he could've. I'm so proud of our little blonde wow.png Oh yes! Naruto-kun kick some foxy buttox! a_spaz.gif


Except that...didn't Naruto concede that he couldn't?

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Posted 06 June 2010 - 10:33 PM

QUOTE (ShippudenGirl @ Jun 6 2010, 05:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, ha-ha... he was, I mean this is the most powerful form of chakra in the ninja world so you gotta gove him credit.




THANK YOU!! a_squish.gif th_glomp.gif



Just more evidence that Naruto could have easily killed/beat up Sasuke on there last confrontation - even if he didn't want to he could've. I'm so proud of our little blonde wow.png Oh yes! Naruto-kun kick some foxy buttox! a_spaz.gif


He has to talk with Mommy first.

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Posted 06 June 2010 - 11:17 PM

QUOTE (ShippudenGirl @ Jun 6 2010, 09:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'M BACK I'M BACK I'M BACK! AFTER A WEEK OF BEING GONE I'M BACK! WOOO! wow.png

This chapter was COMPLETELY AWESOME! OH WOW! Naruto trying to fight Kyuubi then KUSHINA! *has heart attack*

oh no run hide the naruto plushy


jk nice to have you back shippu-chan xDDD




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