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[luffyq1]

 

About Hinata not living up to her potential....

 

The thing is, Hinata has lived up to the exact amount of potential Kishimoto has wanted to write for her.  If he had meant for her to transform into a smart, strong, fearless, badass ninja with a view of the world around her that amounts to more than one boy, then she would have become one. But that's not who she is, and it appears that isn't going to change.

 

The fact that Hinata's potential has been limited is no different in concept than the limitations placed on other characters.  For instance, Sasuke could have been a really warm and friendly guy if Kishimoto hadn't limited him to being a self-centered jackass.  Shino could have been a real womanizer if only he didn't have bugs under his skin and wasn't quiet.  Sakura and Naruto would have got together ages ago if only Kishimoto hadn't saddled her with emotional confusion.

 

Just as it is in real life, not everyone changes for the better or achieves everything they might be capable of achieving.  Kishimoto has populated his world with a variety of characterizations, and they can't all be awe-inspiring.

 

Hinata is, in a way, mirror opposite of Sakura.  Where Sakura speaks her mind, is insanely strong, and confident, Hinata is quiet, weak, and insecure.  Where Sakura believes in Naruto's abilities and trusts him 100%, Hinata's doubts and fears extend to Naruto's abilities as well.  Where Sakura knows and understands Naruto, Hinata doesn't know or understand anything about him.  Where Sakura is confused and unsure if loves Naruto, Hinata easily confesses her love for him and thinks of nothing else.

 

It makes me wonder if... when Sakura realizes her love for Naruto and moves toward him, Hinata might realize her life is about something more and she will then back away from Naruto.

 

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[melovechoco]

serious sakura mode will be activated in the next chapter...

[Superman333]

I would die of laughter if that actually happened lol. Excuse me, NaruHina fans, you said something about Naruto and Sakura having a sibling relationship? 

I mean, I wouldn't laugh at them, I would mock them but I wouldn't laugh . 

[TacticalFox88]

The amount of irony if Hinata grew out of her love for Naruto when/if Sakura confesses her love for Naruto would probably be too much for me to handle. 

[BakeNeko-Chan]

Yeah, she definitely had potential in part one but wow, she didn't live up to that at all. I agree, I don't see the point in the screentime Kishi gives her. Even when it seems she's changed for the better, we see that she really hasn't. So I can't help but think it is fanservice, and/or possibly putting her in as a foil to Sakura... Or maybe Kishi is going to make her have an epiphany at the end and then she'll truly change, but at this point, if Hinata decides to stop pining after Naruto, it would just feel out of character to me tbh.

 

Kind of too little too late at this point, if she were finally let go of Naruto, since she's gone so long being defined by him.

 

 

About Hinata not living up to her potential....

 

The thing is, Hinata has lived up to the exact amount of potential Kishimoto has wanted to write for her.  If he had meant for her to transform into a smart, strong, fearless, badass ninja with a view of the world around her that amounts to more than one boy, then she would have become one. But that's not who she is, and it appears that isn't going to change.

 

The fact that Hinata's potential has been limited is no different in concept than the limitations placed on other characters.  For instance, Sasuke could have been a really warm and friendly guy if Kishimoto hadn't limited him to being a self-centered jackass.  Shino could have been a real womanizer if only he didn't have bugs under his skin and wasn't quiet.  Sakura and Naruto would have got together ages ago if only Kishimoto hadn't saddled her with emotional confusion.

 

Just as it is in real life, not everyone changes for the better or achieves everything they might be capable of achieving.  Kishimoto has populated his world with a variety of characterizations, and they can't all be awe-inspiring.

 

Hinata is, in a way, a mirror opposite of Sakura.  Where Sakura speaks her mind, is insanely strong, and confident, Hinata is quiet, weak, and insecure.  Where Sakura believes in Naruto's abilities and trusts him 100%, Hinata's doubts and fears extend to Naruto's abilities as well.  Where Sakura knows and understands Naruto, Hinata doesn't know or understand anything about him.  Where Sakura is confused and unsure if she loves Naruto, Hinata easily confesses her love for him and thinks of nothing else.

 

It makes me wonder if... when Sakura realizes her love for Naruto and moves toward him, Hinata might realize her life is about something more and she will then back away from Naruto.

 

 

 You are right, of course. I suppose I can't help thinking of what she could have been if handled differently, but my ideas are not Kishimoto's. She is what he intended for her to be, nothing less or more than that, and at this point it seems very likely that Hinata is not going to change. I think why Hinata's lack of growth bothers me as much as it does is because I see a lot of things in her that remind me of the parts of myself that I don't like, not the pining after a guy(thankfully), but in her unbearable shyness and lack of confidence. And I don't understand why she is so highly praised and viewed by so many as some great female role model when she is little more than a satellite around the main character, without any real strength to call her own.

 

As for the bolded, so very true.

[TouKen4Life3g]

One last message from me. Note: you don't have to like both pairings.

http://sparda3g.tumb...-sasukarin-fans

[Dalton.T.R]

Oh, Jeez! Between Sakura and Ino, oh, God! Can I have both? 

 

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[James S Cassidy]

Someone told me a theory today that they are going to save Naruto's life by giving him that fruit of the tree. I guess it is possible since the tree did suck up all those now dead fodder ninja and could be used to bring him back to life. I never thought about that.

It would be an interesting outcome.

[六道仙人]

Someone told me a theory today that they are going to save Naruto's life by giving him that fruit of the tree. I guess it is possible since the tree did suck up all those now dead fodder ninja and could be used to bring him back to life. I never thought about that.

It would be an interesting outcome.

 

 

there's no fruit yet... Madara just said that it blossoms once a millenium...Furthermore, Naruto is unconscious now, how can he still eat the fruit? LOL

[sushi.]

Someone told me a theory today that they are going to save Naruto's life by giving him that fruit of the tree. I guess it is possible since the tree did suck up all those now dead fodder ninja and could be used to bring him back to life. I never thought about that.

It would be an interesting outcome.

I actually wouldn't be surprised if this will be his power-up to beat Madara. Kishi has shoved in our faces more than once that Naruto is somehow the new Sage, but he needs a trigger. It might be death and it might be the fruit. Then Sasuke will get the eyes, and they'll be the two sons who defeats Madara. So sad there's little room for Sakura-chan here x)

there's no fruit yet... Madara just said that it blossoms once a millenium...Furthermore, Naruto is unconscious now, how can he still eat the fruit? LOL

Stuff it in his mouth. Or maybe he wakes up.

 

The fruit will be used anyway. Why else bring it up? It probably blossomed a millenium ago.

[Derock]

Stuff it in his mouth. Or maybe he wakes up.

 

The fruit will be used anyway. Why else bring it up? It probably blossomed a millenium ago.

 

Here's an idea:

 

When the fruit blossomed, have Sakura smash/chop/whatever it and converted to a liquid substance.

[TouKen4Life3g]

If the fruit part does occur, well that will be interesting. Or you can have Sakura eat it. History repeats! But seriously, not a bad idea, though how is that going to work. I thought it happens like a long time and how can they give it to Naruto. I wonder if you can share it.

[TacticalFox88]

What if the fruit (somehow) grew on a Sakura tree? 

 

[sushi.]

If the fruit part does occur, well that will be interesting. Or you can have Sakura eat it. History repeats! But seriously, not a bad idea, though how is that going to work. I thought it happens like a long time and how can they give it to Naruto. I wonder if you can share it.

Oooh ~ what a twist.

Bad thing about parallels is that there's little room for exactly that. Use it too much and it limits your story to some kind of symmetry. x(

[James S Cassidy]

 

 

there's no fruit yet... Madara just said that it blossoms once a millenium...Furthermore, Naruto is unconscious now, how can he still eat the fruit? LOL

 

Well, Kishi has broken is his own established rules before especially with Madara at the helm.
 

I actually wouldn't be surprised if this will be his power-up to beat Madara. Kishi has shoved in our faces more than once that Naruto is somehow the new Sage, but he needs a trigger. It might be death and it might be the fruit. Then Sasuke will get the eyes, and they'll be the two sons who defeats Madara. So sad there's little room for Sakura-chan here x)

Stuff it in his mouth. Or maybe he wakes up

 

"The tree actually blooms in the sight of pure love. That's how it produces fruit. Seeing Sakura cry over Naruto's lifeless body and how much she loves him, the tree blooms giving the power to revive him and the power to beat Madara."

lol. I don't know, but it has been a concept before albeit a little cliche

Edited by James S Cassidy, 01 February 2014 - 08:10 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Oooh ~ what a twist.
Bad thing about parallels is that there's little room for exactly that. Use it too much and it limits your story to some kind of symmetry. x(

Well I was kidding. Not really. I do wonder why the plot setup the way it is. What is the point of all this? You know, it can't be just "Well I almost die but I didn't." It got to be something in return. I just don't know what, but it's something.

[James S Cassidy]

Well I was kidding. Not really. I do wonder why the plot setup the way it is. What is the point of all this? You know, it can't be just "Well I almost die but I didn't." It got to be something in return. I just don't know what, but it's something.

So Sakura can admit that she loves Naruto and put an end to the pairing wars.

Everyone knows that

Edited by James S Cassidy, 01 February 2014 - 08:13 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

So Sakura can admit that she loves Naruto and put an end to the pairing wars.

Well, it does solve on why Sakura over all medics scenario. Still, I do wonder. Actually, I do wonder why Sakura. As much as I like this and I do, there must be a reason. Kishi is known to place a character or two in a scene with a purpose, let alone create a reason to excuse others (Tsunade out of chakra, Hinata is exhausted). So yeah, I'm curious.

[James S Cassidy]

Well, it does solve on why Sakura over all medics scenario. Still, I do wonder. Actually, I do wonder why Sakura. As much as I like this and I do, there must be a reason. Kishi is known to place a character or two in a scene with a purpose, let alone create a reason to excuse others (Tsunade out of chakra, Hinata is exhausted). So yeah, I'm curious.

I am curious at what would Hinata really do. She is not a medic and she hardly does anything anyway. Not meaning that in a bashing way, but in a truthful one.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 03 February 2014 - 01:01 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I am curious at what would Hinata really do. She is not a medic and she hardly does anything anyway. Not meaning that is a bashing way, but in a truthful one.

You mean if Hinata did reach to Naruto? Yeah, but I think it's more like I want to be there because I care too much thing more so than I got a cure.