it's because they having some hidden sex somewhere on the battlefield... to the delight of SaiSaku fans!
H&E's NaruSaku Debate Thread!
#13961
Posted 28 March 2013 - 11:55 AM
it's because they having some hidden sex somewhere on the battlefield... to the delight of SaiSaku fans!
俺は天才バスケットマン桜木花道。
"I'm the Basketball genius, Hanamichi Sakuragi"
#13962
Posted 28 March 2013 - 11:57 AM
isn't he gay?
#13963
Posted 28 March 2013 - 11:59 AM
Hes totally GAY!
#13964
Posted 28 March 2013 - 12:01 PM
Look at Naruto SD ended up being Lee/Saku just because he was the main hero and Sakura was his love interest.
Done by an direct assistant of Kishimoto Keiji Taira.
Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 28 March 2013 - 12:01 PM.
#13965
Posted 28 March 2013 - 12:04 PM
so what's the problem? They just say that Sakura is trans and looks like Suigetsu
俺は天才バスケットマン桜木花道。
"I'm the Basketball genius, Hanamichi Sakuragi"
#13966
Posted 28 March 2013 - 12:07 PM
What the hell, Hahahahaha who says that? Let me guess...... NH fans! Right?
#13967
Posted 28 March 2013 - 12:10 PM
俺は天才バスケットマン桜木花道。
"I'm the Basketball genius, Hanamichi Sakuragi"
#13968
Posted 28 March 2013 - 12:13 PM
#13969
Posted 28 March 2013 - 12:19 PM
Konohamaru's boy on boy jutsu.
#13970
Posted 28 March 2013 - 12:22 PM
Konohamaru's boy on boy jutsu.
Omg that was too gay XD
#13971
Posted 28 March 2013 - 12:25 PM
#13972
Posted 28 March 2013 - 12:34 PM
Konohamaru's boy on boy jutsu.
I'm really curious, who will Ino be put with if not Sai? i quite liked Inosai
#13973
Posted 28 March 2013 - 12:39 PM
Yeah, thy look cute together. But I don't see them as a final pairing because Sai is just too gay.
I'm a ShikaIno fan, but also have doubts about this pairing, because InoShikaCho are three different clans that always work as one. Would Kishi mix Nara and Yamanaka bool? Well idk but I'd love it.
Edited by Tauriel, 28 March 2013 - 12:40 PM.
#13974
Posted 28 March 2013 - 01:02 PM
Insane people think it will go like this: "Hey Sasuke, I know you are about to fight Naruto but I still believe you can turn back from simple words and not fighting naruto, oh dont worry about trying to kill me twice, I still forgive you, thats how love is."
What will honestly happen: Sakura will talk to Naruto, they have some drama because this is the biggest fight in Naruto's life, only he can bring Sasuke back, etc. Plus they still think at this point Sasuke is a revenge driven psycho even though he mellowed out after Itachi told him to live his own life.
Do you honestly think one chapter ruined consistency? Hinata is still microscopic compared to Sakura, why such a high pedestal? Overall it is development Hinata needed, but it was also Neji finishing up, if NaruHina continued from this, then Kishi would have honestly taken out a good character like Neji, but as it is right now, he can make the final development Hinata needs in being able to get over Naruto and find her own way, she needs this just as much as Sakura needs to get over Sasuke. Hinata shouldn't be a copy of naruto with him in the end, thats basically what NaruHina could come too. Even then, why this moment and not Sakura? In writing, minor characters always get their final development before or after the climax when the main cast gets their high point and resolution, Hinata got hers now, we saw Shikamaru and Ino get the same thing in 616, and that was much better for a ton of reasons Plus the way the fight is arranged right now, just think, as much as I like Sakura, her super punching would be an unnecessary risk against the ten tails, she should stick to the medical stuff at this point in the fight until we see where she actually is. Sakura is in store, ready to come forward, its like the apocalypse on this site sometimes.
Honestly when people complain about no Sakura this or that, its just as bad as jumping to conclusions like the NH crowd going "Canon OMG OMG WE WIN, Holding hands, OMG SHE FIXED NARUTOS SHOULDER!" NaruSaku people giving up or losing hope because of the lack of interaction is the same as admitting 'OMG we lose! No talking yet during these events!
Just let me say this, what would happen in a war? You stop for a friendly chat in the middle of a battlefield and keep the dialogue going for 20 more chapters, or do you keep fighting? The 4th war arc focused on so many people, part of it was because Kishi put in so many new characters from the 5 kage summit, this had to extend it, pt focus on many of them, and keep jumping back and forth. Keep in mind, Naruto and Sakura met up twice in the war, when he saved her from the zetsu and at the ten tails, but they are in the middle of combat, no time to talk about feelings, Naruto had a job, find the white zetsu with his clones, obviously now is not the time in the middle of a battle.
You ask why the fighting stopped with Obito and Hinata both giving speeches? Its a damn manga, all types of japanese mangas and animes do this exact same thing, pause the battle, have so exchange of ideals and blabber about hope being worthless, others saying its not worthless, this exact thing with Hinata was seen in other animes before, I've even seen it in a few video games, that's just how much this trope is used, a big pause for a dramatic speech, then they get back into the action to see who's ideal will prevail. This same thing happened in Bleach back when Aizen was taken down, he kept giving his I'm so mighty and awesome speech, subject to my trolling powers which goes against logic, yet people just kept hacking away at him till Kieskae was able to get an open shot and seal that dam orb in him nullifying his powers.
THIS!!! ^^
Seriously like, we need to post this on the front cover of H&E!!
~サ ナル~サク 4/3 The day he fell in love with her ♥ 豪傑 そて 勇婦 hero, great man and heroine, brave woman°°°★Official Top Ten overall NARUTO characters: 1. Kakashi 2.Naruto 3.Sasuke 4.Iruka 5.Shikamaru 6.Gaara 7.Sakura 8.Neji 9.Itachi 10.Lee★°°° <p>Best ofナル~サク
#13975
Posted 28 March 2013 - 01:04 PM
If this was true, just realize how much shorter all mangas would be, more fighting and events would go faster, not many pauses in action for hero dialouge, villian dialouge, have half a page just for facial expressions, ok I mean there is nothing wrong with this but this is one of the reasons manga and anime are made fun in general, short events which take a few seconds take 15 minutes somehow.
Anyways 615 is a NaruHina moment, but its Hinata's high mark and you really cant do much beyond the high mark. It was romantic for Hinata, not Naruto. Naruto was busy thinking about all those who gave their lives for him in some way, early like Chiyo giving her life for Gaara due to his influence to Jiriaya who died having faith in him etc. The "you've been by my side the whole time" is what set fans into overdrive, its not meaning he acknowledges her love suddenly even though he knows Hinata loves him, it means how he knows she was fighting by his side the whole time since the fighting started. The way she and several others were protecting him and Bee was proof against Obito that people were willing to give their lives if Naruto and Bee being the Jinchurki could save it. Even then the hand holding part is simple for 2 reasons 1. the chakra transfer 2. comforting and thanking hinata, then naruto lets go and starts passing out chakra to everyone. Many fans still argue that it makes a difference that it was the real naruto who gave her power, she had it first, etc. Not so special if most others have it. While we do prefer Sakura here, its just that cause it was neji who died, yes its true Sakura would have been wrong giving the speech, Sakura does not have much connection to Neji, if it was like Ino who died then yeah maybe there but otherwise its Hinata who gave the speech because Neji died, they are close in their relation, if anything 615 ended the Naruto, Hinata, Neji sub story things being the opposite of when neji tried to first kill Hinata to having defended her on his own free will. If this is the high mark for Hinata, as many said, NH cannot outdue itself if this is the high mark, nothing left for developing Hinata aside from what she does when it comes to Naruto. Even then I cant imagine Naruto just saying he loves Hinata, I can see him saying though he knows Hinata loves him, he does no feel the same way about her but thanks her and Hinata can be mature about that.
Only problem with 615 for many, they just glossed over many things and jumped to the canon conclusion, Sakura's lone panel reaction is a major reason against this along with her view on Sasuke from 540. Not saying Sakura is jelly, but the reaction to Hinata's speech had to impact or make her realize something, ironically this recent 615 panel is also the last time we have seen Sakura. Sakura has not been seen with the power, but Sai as well. This makes many suspect kishi has something big in store for Sakura at least. NaruSaku has been around depiste no canon moments, I mean there have been RTN and the 2 fillers showing Naruto still loves Sakura after the events of the 5 kage summit, yet although these are filler, at times can attribute current attitudes back into the canon storyline, plus there is nothing so far in the manga to say where his feelings lie. Just that beyond no direct answer yet, for NH naruto would have to jump over Sasuke as his goal, this includes sakura, just to get to hinata, naruto cannot just go to Hinata, Sasuke is his goal so obviously Sakura takes a backseat, this also includes Hinata. Even then there are many reasons NaruSaku is still alive, after the confession we got Kushina with obvious parallels to Sakura and the early relation, there are story elements and plots of importance such as the promise, many claim naruto abandoned it at the fake confession but that would be damaging to his character, plus even after the reunion of team 7 naruto again gives the i cant save one friend speech, we found out that this is tied into his promise to sakura. Not to mention, this is the only thing Sakura ever heavily asked him for, its not like he would abandon it, narutos character is based on will and resolving those problems and ultimately breaking cycles, this includes him giving team 7 a better fate than the sanin and team minato, mainly by sasuke coming back and sakura coming to him (if the cycle is to be different for naruto) just why should naruto succeed in everything save the girl he has so much development with? One major reason NaruSaku lives, plot points, character development and consistency, and basic logic. Sakura still loves Sasuke yes, but she was depressed by it and she has close feelings for naruto, its not like when it comes to the fight with Sasuke she would ignore Naruto again, shes going to put her faith in him cause well he is the only one who can do anything. Its funny how fans think its impossible for sakura to change, if she did not change, then its a lack of development and sakura goes back to square one, defeating her purpose in the journey, sakura is a mainly mental character and sasuke is her biggest mental obstacle kinda like how her biggest physical obstacle is trying to do something big for naruto.
Many fans think Naruto should just go to hinata because of her confession, how about this? Naruto cannot do that because he feels he cannot become hokage or tell Sakura his feelings until he gets Sasuke back. Sasuke is first, yet Naruto feels undeserving of these, he cannot just drop it for Hinata, that would harm his character, if NH were to happen, it would need to start now but it would still damage much of the story and risk putting damage onto Sakura's character if she was to go with Sasuke, same time NH would be too short, rushed, and crammed. Hinata's role as a character is also impacted for the worse, given more development as the circle of importance shrinks as we approach the climax is really asking for trouble, when it comes to the Naruto Vs Sasuke fight, Hinata cannot be here, not at all, she is been cut out from basically anything Sasuke related, it would really be out of place for her here. Hinata has no purpose in the inner areas of team 7 as many want her too. She is not part of team 7. Main thing when it comes to Hinata is her lack of screentime, she is not even in 100 chapters, not even 1/6th of the manga and yet people expect her to be some extra important character, shes just a side character, only real arc was the chunin exams, after that we only have 2 real events with her, pain and 615. Nothing else, she could have died in the pain arc, the story could have gone as normal no impacts. Sakura dies, lots of impacts to the story. Only saying when it comes to NS and sakura being in a majority of the story with development and interaction with Naruto really does seem insane to just suddenly abandon for NH which is hardly touched upon, much less developed in comparison, and for the fact that Hinata is not even in 1/6th of the series with only 3 real events, neji fight, pain, and 615, thats it. Even Shikamaru has done more and he is a proper major character like Tsunade. If Hinata were more important, I would imagine she would have had a role like Shikamaru or Tsunade, yet she does not.
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#13976
Posted 28 March 2013 - 01:27 PM
I'm a ShikaIno fan, but also have doubts about this pairing, because InoShikaCho are three different clans that always work as one. Would Kishi mix Nara and Yamanaka bool? Well idk but I'd love it.
Ino hasn't shown any interest other then Sasuke, Sai in anime but... InoSai would be a good pairing. So would ShikaIno but Shika has been claimed by Temari
#13977
Posted 28 March 2013 - 01:37 PM
I don't really like ShikaTem, but I guess that's just a matter of taste. I could see Kishi pairing Skikamaru and Temari tough.
I remember Asuma's words to Ino, that she souldn't lose to Sakura in finding love, I just hope she ends up with someone who will make her happy.
#13978
Posted 28 March 2013 - 02:04 PM
I remember Asuma's words to Ino, that she souldn't lose to Sakura in finding love, I just hope she ends up with someone who will make her happy.
Could be with Sasuke???? or Sai. I'm quite curious who she will end up with.
#13979
Posted 28 March 2013 - 02:05 PM
Anyways 615 is a NaruHina moment, but its Hinata's high mark and you really cant do much beyond the high mark. It was romantic for Hinata, not Naruto. Naruto was busy thinking about all those who gave their lives for him in some way, early like Chiyo giving her life for Gaara due to his influence to Jiriaya who died having faith in him etc. The "you've been by my side the whole time" is what set fans into overdrive, its not meaning he acknowledges her love suddenly even though he knows Hinata loves him, it means how he knows she was fighting by his side the whole time since the fighting started. The way she and several others were protecting him and Bee was proof against Obito that people were willing to give their lives if Naruto and Bee being the Jinchurki could save it. Even then the hand holding part is simple for 2 reasons 1. the chakra transfer 2. comforting and thanking hinata, then naruto lets go and starts passing out chakra to everyone. Many fans still argue that it makes a difference that it was the real naruto who gave her power, she had it first, etc. Not so special if most others have it. While we do prefer Sakura here, its just that cause it was neji who died, yes its true Sakura would have been wrong giving the speech, Sakura does not have much connection to Neji, if it was like Ino who died then yeah maybe there but otherwise its Hinata who gave the speech because Neji died, they are close in their relation, if anything 615 ended the Naruto, Hinata, Neji sub story things being the opposite of when neji tried to first kill Hinata to having defended her on his own free will. If this is the high mark for Hinata, as many said, NH cannot outdue itself if this is the high mark, nothing left for developing Hinata aside from what she does when it comes to Naruto. Even then I cant imagine Naruto just saying he loves Hinata, I can see him saying though he knows Hinata loves him, he does no feel the same way about her but thanks her and Hinata can be mature about that.
Only problem with 615 for many, they just glossed over many things and jumped to the canon conclusion, Sakura's lone panel reaction is a major reason against this along with her view on Sasuke from 540. Not saying Sakura is jelly, but the reaction to Hinata's speech had to impact or make her realize something, ironically this recent 615 panel is also the last time we have seen Sakura. Sakura has not been seen with the power, but Sai as well. This makes many suspect kishi has something big in store for Sakura at least. NaruSaku has been around depiste no canon moments, I mean there have been RTN and the 2 fillers showing Naruto still loves Sakura after the events of the 5 kage summit, yet although these are filler, at times can attribute current attitudes back into the canon storyline, plus there is nothing so far in the manga to say where his feelings lie. Just that beyond no direct answer yet, for NH naruto would have to jump over Sasuke as his goal, this includes sakura, just to get to hinata, naruto cannot just go to Hinata, Sasuke is his goal so obviously Sakura takes a backseat, this also includes Hinata. Even then there are many reasons NaruSaku is still alive, after the confession we got Kushina with obvious parallels to Sakura and the early relation, there are story elements and plots of importance such as the promise, many claim naruto abandoned it at the fake confession but that would be damaging to his character, plus even after the reunion of team 7 naruto again gives the i cant save one friend speech, we found out that this is tied into his promise to sakura. Not to mention, this is the only thing Sakura ever heavily asked him for, its not like he would abandon it, narutos character is based on will and resolving those problems and ultimately breaking cycles, this includes him giving team 7 a better fate than the sanin and team minato, mainly by sasuke coming back and sakura coming to him (if the cycle is to be different for naruto) just why should naruto succeed in everything save the girl he has so much development with? One major reason NaruSaku lives, plot points, character development and consistency, and basic logic. Sakura still loves Sasuke yes, but she was depressed by it and she has close feelings for naruto, its not like when it comes to the fight with Sasuke she would ignore Naruto again, shes going to put her faith in him cause well he is the only one who can do anything. Its funny how fans think its impossible for sakura to change, if she did not change, then its a lack of development and sakura goes back to square one, defeating her purpose in the journey, sakura is a mainly mental character and sasuke is her biggest mental obstacle kinda like how her biggest physical obstacle is trying to do something big for naruto.
Many fans think Naruto should just go to hinata because of her confession, how about this? Naruto cannot do that because he feels he cannot become hokage or tell Sakura his feelings until he gets Sasuke back. Sasuke is first, yet Naruto feels undeserving of these, he cannot just drop it for Hinata, that would harm his character, if NH were to happen, it would need to start now but it would still damage much of the story and risk putting damage onto Sakura's character if she was to go with Sasuke, same time NH would be too short, rushed, and crammed. Hinata's role as a character is also impacted for the worse, given more development as the circle of importance shrinks as we approach the climax is really asking for trouble, when it comes to the Naruto Vs Sasuke fight, Hinata cannot be here, not at all, she is been cut out from basically anything Sasuke related, it would really be out of place for her here. Hinata has no purpose in the inner areas of team 7 as many want her too. She is not part of team 7. Main thing when it comes to Hinata is her lack of screentime, she is not even in 100 chapters, not even 1/6th of the manga and yet people expect her to be some extra important character, shes just a side character, only real arc was the chunin exams, after that we only have 2 real events with her, pain and 615. Nothing else, she could have died in the pain arc, the story could have gone as normal no impacts. Sakura dies, lots of impacts to the story. Only saying when it comes to NS and sakura being in a majority of the story with development and interaction with Naruto really does seem insane to just suddenly abandon for NH which is hardly touched upon, much less developed in comparison, and for the fact that Hinata is not even in 1/6th of the series with only 3 real events, neji fight, pain, and 615, thats it. Even Shikamaru has done more and he is a proper major character like Tsunade. If Hinata were more important, I would imagine she would have had a role like Shikamaru or Tsunade, yet she does not.
What she meant was that there will always be different mangas that follow different rules and put some twists into the preexisting paradigm and tropes of shonen mangas. That's the point she was trying to make. It doesn't mean the existing paradigms have to be radically changed thoroughly.
You guys keep bringing up 615, but what about 617?? is that not a big moment for her as well?? she even stole what was usually supposed to be Sakura's role. I could understand about Naruto's one track-mind being a "guarantee" for NS. But that doesn't cut it for me if it's not reinforced enough time and again.
I'll give you several examples: Natsu going "I'll save Lucy!!"
All the above examples show the heroes' devotion to their girl. Now, if Naruto were so one track-minded about Sakura and devoted to her, wouldn't we be seeing moments like that to reaffirm his feelings?? The Kage Summit is one example, but if Kishi wants the idea of NS stuck in our minds, then he should be showing it more through Naruto's actions.
Something simple like "Everyone, Sakura-chan... wait for me!! I'm coming!!" would've done the trick. Shipping moments are supposed to give a certain push to one pairing. If Kishi wants us to accept the idea of NS, then he should be pushing it more.

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#13980
Posted 28 March 2013 - 02:28 PM
You guys keep bringing up 615, but what about 617?? is that not a big moment for her as well?? she even stole what was usually supposed to be Sakura's role. I could understand about Naruto's one track-mind being a "guarantee" for NS. But that doesn't cut it for me if it's not reinforced enough time and again.
I'll give you several examples: Natsu going "I'll save Lucy!!"
All the above examples show the heroes' devotion to their girl. Now, if Naruto were so one track-minded about Sakura and devoted to her, wouldn't we be seeing moments like that to reaffirm his feelings?? The Kage Summit is one example, but if Kishi wants the idea of NS stuck in our minds, then he should be showing it more through Naruto's actions.
Something simple like "Everyone, Sakura-chan... wait for me!! I'm coming!!" would've done the trick. Shipping moments are supposed to give a certain push to one pairing. If Kishi wants us to accept the idea of NS, then he should be pushing it more.
Unless Naruto confesses to liking Hinata she is out of plot devices. If Hinata has already confessed twice, and Naruto does not have a one-track mind, than why has he not answered her. Plus in road to Ninja, SasuSaku NaruHina are sort of pushed to the side as Naruto in the end ends up saving Sakura in the end. Normally movies don't make a difference but Kishimoto wrote the script for the movie.
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