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[TouKen4Life3g]

For some reason I really don't mind the fast phasing even if it affects the quality.

Well, the quality can get only go up at this point to be honest.

[Shadow1275]

To be honest I think Kishimoto is just trying to keep things interesting but the bottom line is from Naruto's perspective, this whole Hinata love thing came way out of Left field. Since Kishimoto promised a fight between Sasuke and Naruto, Sakura has got to play some part in that. I think this is where she will be forced to make a choice between the two. But one of the reasons I think this is in Road to a ninja there is another parallel between Sakura and Kushina where Sakura gets kidnapped and tied up and Naruto saves her. Normally the movies wouldn't make a difference but Kishimoto wrote it himself and he even put the death threats from the Hinata fans in the movie. 615 was to develop Hinata's character but Naruto has still not answered her feelings.

[TouKen4Life3g]

To be honest I think Kishimoto is just trying to keep things interesting but the bottom line is from Naruto's perspective, this whole Hinata love thing came way out of Left field. Since Kishimoto promised a fight between Sasuke and Naruto, Sakura has got to play some part in that. I think this is where she will be forced to make a choice between the two. But one of the reasons I think this is in Road to a ninja there is another parallel between Sakura and Kushina where Sakura gets kidnapped and tied up and Naruto saves her. Normally the movies wouldn't make a difference but Kishimoto wrote it himself and he even put the death threats from the Hinata fans in the movie. 615 was to develop Hinata's character but Naruto has still not answered her feelings.

Well, you seem to be in the green zone. That's good to know. So, what is your take on chapter 615?

[Fenris]

Saw a post on tumblr that their names mean this.

Hūga Hinata - Morning glory(Asagao 朝顔): Willful promises
Haruno Sakura - Yellow tulip(Chūrippu チューリップ): One-sided love

Not sure what to think about 'Willful Promises.'

Sketchy.

Edited by Fenris, 28 March 2013 - 04:40 AM.

[Shadow1275]

Well, you seem to be in the green zone. That's good to know. So, what is your take on chapter 615?

First off thanks for the Welcome. As for chapter 615, read my earlier post. If you read closely, Hinata doesn't cheer Naruto up, it is not until the nine-tailed fox cusses him out that he finally feels better. As for the hand thing, as usual, Hinata is the only one to give any sort of intimate reaction. Don't forget that he had to grab everyone's hands in order to distribute chakra and Naruto shows no hint of intimacy in his words. Finally, Neji just died, Sakura is not the right person to give a speech about Neji considering that she hardly knew him. Personally, when it comes to Kishimoto you can never really tell if the things he sets up are really going to flesh out because he never reveals anything in his interviews. Like for example in 2010 he promised more Kakashi but it wasn't until Tobi showed up that Kakashi got an actual fight.[Which sucks cause Kakashi is my favorite character and the Lightning Blade is awesome]. That being said, I think for the first half of part 2 he has built up NaruxSaku, and now he is building up NaruxHina to keep things interesting as before the confession there were a lot more believers in NaruxSaku than NaruxHina. The bottom line is he is not going to commit to anything until the end of the series. It may turn out that Naruto does not hook up with anyone. Personally though, I believe after looking at everything so far that Naruto and Sakura have a better chance than Naruto and Hinata and I definitely prefer Sakura over Hinata. The other thing is Hinata's plot point is just about finished unless Naruto does commit to her. We are guaranteed to see more Sakura though because her feelings have yet to be determined.

Edited by Shadow1275, 28 March 2013 - 04:59 AM.

[StrikerTheNoble]

First off thanks for the Welcome. As for chapter 615, read my earlier post. If you read closely, Hinata doesn't cheer Naruto up, it is not until the nine-tailed fox cusses him out that he finally feels better. As for the hand thing, as usual, Hinata is the only one to give any sort of intimate reaction. Don't forget that he had to grab everyone's hands in order to distribute chakra and Naruto shows no hint of intimacy in his words. Finally, Neji just died, Sakura is not the right person to give a speech about Neji considering that she hardly knew him. Personally, when it comes to Kishimoto you can never really tell if the things he sets up are really going to flesh out because he never reveals anything in his interviews. Like for example in 2010 he promised more Kakashi but it wasn't until Tobi showed up that Kakashi got an actual fight.[Which sucks cause Kakashi is my favorite character and the Lightning Blade is awesome]. That being said, I think for the first half of part 2 he has built up NaruxSaku, and now he is building up NaruxHina to keep things interesting as before the confession there were a lot more believers in NaruxSaku than NaruxHina. The bottom line is he is not going to commit to anything until the end of the series. It may turn out that Naruto does not hook up with anyone. Personally though, I believe after looking at everything so far that Naruto and Sakura have a better chance than Naruto and Hinata and I definitely prefer Sakura over Hinata. The other thing is Hinata's plot point is just about finished unless Naruto does commit to her. We are guaranteed to see more Sakura though because her feelings have yet to be determined.

Sorry I will have to disagree there. Honetsly Hinata has seen more development from the dialog corner than from Kishi. It is not the right word to use for her. Development means that you chnage, learn something new, advance as a person. What Hinata does is a guest apearance.

Lets take the pain arc from example.

During the pain arc Tsunade was disabled, and Sakura had to step up and lead the hospital. She was healing everyone and saved a small child in a rather badass way. She realised Hinata loved Naruto.
Utimatly she realised just how amaizing Naruto is. She knew already but it was absolute proof for her.

Hinata basicly jumped down to Naruto and confessed. Then she proceeded to be knocked unconcious. She said nothing after that. She didn`t learn anything. She hasn`t realised anything. So the confession leads to nowhere as far a NH is concerned.

If it wasn`t enough, after the minor dead end NH moment we were given a very romantic NS moment (its up for interpretation but I found it sweet).

So NS was still being developed. Up until the war. Thats where it was paused because Naruto was sent avay. Hinata just apears for a little chapter to actually try and do something again. But she still didnt learn anything. Her cousin, and mentor died right there. And she was fangirling over Naruto. Thats not charater advancment thats her being coldhearted. It could be called development if she maybe learned about Sakura, or Sasuke even. But she is what she is. A boring guest strar character.

BTW:
The next time I see what would Naruto and Hinatas baby look/be like this is my answer:

Edited by StrikerTheNoble, 28 March 2013 - 05:27 AM.

[Shadow1275]

Sorry I will have to disagree there. Honetsly Hinata has seen more development from the dialog corner than from Kishi. It is not the right word to use for her. Development means that you chnage, learn something new, advance as a person. What Hinata does is a guest apearance.

Lets take the pain arc from example.

During the pain arc Tsunade was disabled, and Sakura had to step up and lead the hospital. She was healing everyone and saved a small child in a rather badass way. She realised Hinata loved Naruto.
Utimatly she realised just how amaizing Naruto is. She knew already but it was absolute proof for her.

Hinata basicly jumped down to Naruto and confessed. Then she proceeded to be knocked unconcious. She said nothing after that. She didn`t learn anything. She hasn`t realised anything. So the confession leads to nowhere as far a NH is concerned.

If it wasn`t enough, after the minor dead end NH moment we were given a very romantic NS moment (its up for interpretation but I found it sweet).

So NS was still being developed. Up until the war. Thats where it was paused because Naruto was sent avay. Hinata just apears for a little chapter to actually try and do something again. But she still didnt learn anything. Her cousin, and mentor died right there. And she was fangirling over Naruto. Thats not charater advancment thats her being coldhearted. It could be called development if she maybe learned about Sakura, or Sasuke even. But she is what she is. A boring guest strar character.

Preaching to the Choir Bra. Development was probably the wrong word to use but I do think that Hinata's character has reached the climax of her progress. Plus, We get a couple scenes where Sakura learns that Hinata loves Naruto, and two scenes during the infamous hand holding scene where Sakura is as shocked as everyone else. Why would Kishimoto include these if Sakura is supposed to be replaced by Hinata or if she is not supposed to care about Naruto? The bottom line is, Hinata is out of Plot points whereas Sakura still has plenty.

Edited by Shadow1275, 28 March 2013 - 05:30 AM.

[StrikerTheNoble]

Preaching to the Choir Bra. Development was probably the wrong word to use but I do think that Hinata's character has reached the climax of her progress. Plus, We get a couple scenes where Sakura learns that Hinata loves Naruto, and two scenes during the infamous hand holding scene where Sakura is as shocked as everyone else. Why would Kishimoto include these if Sakura is supposed to be replaced by Hinata? The bottom line is, Hinata is out of Plot points whereas Sakura still has plenty.

Hinata had so few plot points that she took loans from random fodder nins.
She is a guest star. Everytime she shows up she is exactly the same useless dumbass as she was the last time.

@ Kishi Develop or kill her.

[Shadow1275]

Saw a post on tumblr that their names mean this.


Not sure what to think about 'Willful Promises.'

Sketchy.

Plus Sakura means Cherry blossom, not Yellow Tulip

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well, I think you made it sound like the first half of part 2 is NS while second half is NH, which is not true. Hinata is a come and go character, not like a recurring character in every arc. She's there now to close the plot point and same goes to all other side characters.

You're welcome.

[rocci]

Saw a post on tumblr that their names mean this.


Not sure what to think about 'Willful Promises.'

Sketchy.

nope

sunflower
cherry blossom or base on sakura ino flashback, her flower represent cosmos.

Edited by rocci, 28 March 2013 - 05:52 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Thanks for the correction on the definition.

[Shadow1275]

Well, I think you made it sound like the first half of part 2 is NS while second half is NH, which is not true. Hinata is a come and go character, not like a recurring character in every arc. She's there now to close the plot point and same goes to all other side characters.

You're welcome.

True, there are some NS parts like when she learns Hinata loves Naruto, when she hugs Naruto, obviously the confession which in my opinion is a MAJOR NS part, and we get the two scenes during the hands thing. Hinata has no other plot points to go on because she has already confessed TWICE and still has not gained any affection from Naruto. My only point is that During the pain arc and the ten tails revival Kishimoto has focused more on her character than Sakura's because Hinata was basically ignored during the majority of the series. However now that she has confessed to Naruto Twice and has still not gotten any kind of reaction I think that Narux Saku has an advantage. As for SasuxSaku I think this is a moot point. Even though she thinks of him the man says after hearing that she loves someone else "He must be a GOOD man." Where she then frowns. Obviously she does not think Sasuke is a good man showing that in my opinion she is slowly and FINALLY letting go of her affection for Sasuke. That coupled with the fact that she stated her dream was for team 7 to be happy again leads me to believe that there will be a battle between Naruto and Sasuke and she will choose Naruto when this happens. By the way, which guy do you think fits the description of being a good man?

Edited by Shadow1275, 28 March 2013 - 05:58 AM.

[Tsubaki]

Saw a post on tumblr that their names mean this.

Hūga Hinata - Morning glory(Asagao 朝顔): Willful promises
Haruno Sakura - Yellow tulip(Chūrippu チューリップ): One-sided love

Not sure what to think about 'Willful Promises.'

Sketchy.

I saw that post too.
These aren't the meanings of their names. These are the meaning of these flowers after their names in hanakotoba (language of the flowers )that were chosen by the person who made this post to represent Sakura and Hinata there.


Sakura means Kind/gentle in Hanakotoba.

Edited by Tsubaki, 28 March 2013 - 06:16 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

True, there are some NS parts like when she learns Hinata loves Naruto, when she hugs Naruto, obviously the confession which in my opinion is a MAJOR NS part, and we get the two scenes during the hands thing. Hinata has no other plot points to go on because she has already confessed TWICE and still has not gained any affection from Naruto. My only point is that During the pain arc and the ten tails revival Kishimoto has focused more on her character than Sakura's because Hinata was basically ignored during the majority of the series. However now that she has confessed to Naruto Twice and has still not gotten any kind of reaction I think that Narux Saku has an advantage. As for SasuxSaku I think this is a moot point. Even though she thinks of him the man says after hearing that she loves someone else "He must be a GOOD man." Where she then frowns. Obviously she does not think Sasuke is a good man showing that in my opinion she is slowly and FINALLY letting go of her affection for Sasuke. That coupled with the fact that she stated her dream was for team 7 to be happy again leads me to believe that there will be a battle between Naruto and Sasuke and she will choose Naruto when this happens. By the way, which guy do you think fits the description of being a good man?

Well said. I think we're going to get along just as well. Being good man is someone who should always respect anyone/everyone. It's hard to describe what makes a good man, but all I know is that Naruto is definitely a good man.

[rocci]

Well said. I think we're going to get along just as well. Being good man is someone who should always respect anyone/everyone. It's hard to describe what makes a good man, but all I know is that Naruto is definitely a good man.

i will add that naruto is gentelman.

[merryGOflava]

aww look what I found



I kinda wish there wasn't a pairing war sometimes I mean sakura and hinata don't hate each other.

[TouKen4Life3g]

aww look what I found



I kinda wish there wasn't a pairing war sometimes I mean sakura and hinata don't hate each other.

Of course not. Envy and hate isn't the same. Can't say Sakura does envy her, but the uncomfortableness from her did happen in the Pain Arc. Nevertheless, of course, they don't hate each other.

[merryGOflava]

Of course not. Envy and hate isn't the same. Can't say Sakura does envy her, but the uncomfortableness from her did happen in the Pain Arc. Nevertheless, of course, they don't hate each other.

I kinda wish they were close friends (it would make the narusakuhina love triangle make more sense) and more interesting XD

but since hinata isn't shown that much it doesn't.

Edited by merryGOflava, 28 March 2013 - 07:28 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I kinda wish they were close friends (it would make the narusakuhina love triangle make more sense) and more interesting XD

but since hinata isn't shown that much it doesn't.

Good point. Leave to the anime to make it work.