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#13841 Imhd

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Posted 24 November 2014 - 01:38 PM

Kishi is literally denying naruto's love for sakura ??!! Is that even ok for a known writer
He's throwing all his work just For this movie and I can't believe it he even said its naruto's first time in the love field and I'm just like loooooooooool

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Posted 24 November 2014 - 01:40 PM

Is this really happening? Naruhina wedding? I just read from tumblr that a girl lives in japan that the owner of the manga store showed a surprise beautiful poster of naruto and sakura to her that is set to release on the stores exactly at 6th December. I don't know what to believe now. All I know narusaku is already dead. Reading spoilers about naruhina is like killing me softly..


It sounds like Studio Perriot is making posters of The Last with Naruto and Sakura in it, that's all. Typical marketing ploy. The manga has already confirmed Hinata is going to be with Naruto and Sakura with Sasuke, Kishimoto even said it was all because having Sakura leave her crush from when she was twelve makes her terrible.

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Posted 24 November 2014 - 01:40 PM

I know this probably won't mean much to most of you but...keep in mind this is only 30 minutes of the movie. That's all I'm going to say. If you wish to keep self destructing go right ahead :)

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Posted 24 November 2014 - 01:42 PM

I was wrong.

 

Kishimoto killed Neji and Sakura.

 

 

And yes, Hinata is the final villain



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Posted 24 November 2014 - 01:42 PM

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LOL it's even worse than a crush.


Looool just looking back at the manga and seeing that naruto introduced sakura and said he liked her even before he knows that sakura want to sit next to sasuke and that she likes him Just lol

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Posted 24 November 2014 - 01:43 PM

Guys dont trust the spoilers. Plus they only showed select scenes. Have faith


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Posted 24 November 2014 - 01:44 PM

I was wrong.

 

Kishimoto killed Neji and Sakura.

 

 

And yes, Hinata is the final villain

He killed Naruto too.


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Posted 24 November 2014 - 01:44 PM

I was wrong.

 

Kishimoto killed Neji and Sakura.

 

 

And yes, Hinata is the final villain...

...to the entire Naruto franchise.


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#13849 Nefertieh

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Posted 24 November 2014 - 01:46 PM

Guys dont trust the spoilers. Plus they only showed select scenes. Have faith


The manga is already over and narusaku was killed in cold blood.
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Posted 24 November 2014 - 01:46 PM

The manga is already over and narusaku was killed in cold blood.

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Posted 24 November 2014 - 01:46 PM

http://www.reddit.co...ng_has_started/

 


 

[Confirmed] Sakura tells Naruto directly along the lines of: (my translation) "Once you like/love (someone) as a young girl, you really cannot simply abandon/give up (that thought)" This is why she never wavered about Sasuke, apparently.

 

 

Is one of the clips to explain why Sakura never gave up on Sasuke lol. (It wasn't the whole movie, just clips)



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Posted 24 November 2014 - 01:47 PM

I was wrong.

 

Kishimoto killed Neji and Sakura.

 

 

And yes, Hinata is the final villain

If only the coolest guy had done her in.


 


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Posted 24 November 2014 - 01:49 PM

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LOL it's even worse than a crush. 

Holy kitten, He's going all out.

It's like saying Sakura liked Sasuke because of her rivalry with Ino.


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Posted 24 November 2014 - 01:49 PM

I know this probably won't mean much to most of you but...keep in mind this is only 30 minutes of the movie. That's all I'm going to say. If you wish to keep self destructing go right ahead :)

 

What is it you're trying to say? That we should hope for the greatest miracle of miracles because only twenty seven percent of the movie has been released? I thought the screening was intended to show the entire movie to a select few. And what of the supposed wedding and kiss scene? 



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Posted 24 November 2014 - 01:50 PM

 

What is it you're trying to say? That we should hope for the greatest miracle of miracles because only twenty seven percent of the movie has been released? I thought the screening was intended to show the entire movie to a select few. And what of the supposed wedding and kiss scene? 

Those are NS scenes.


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Posted 24 November 2014 - 01:53 PM

Those are NS scenes.


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Posted 24 November 2014 - 01:53 PM

Kishimoto wrote this movie and said it himself that is it is part of the mangaverse. Does it matter if it's not written in ink in paper?
 

 

Here's the thing though, it doesn't matter what a creator intends for his creation, it is how the public receives/perceives it. If the public doesn't accept it, then no matter how much the creator screams for it to be taken how he intended, it will never be.

 

No matter what he says, this movie will always be a tacked on retconn after the end of the manga. That wil never change. If he didn't want it to go that way, he could have required the movie to be released before the end of the manga, then the epilogue chapter could have come after. 

 

However, we know at least a little of how Kishimoto feels by his determinedly confusing and vague manga ending. If someone chose to read it as Lee being the dad and Karin being the mom, then there is more than a little visual evidence to support that.

 

In the long run, the manga is what lasts. In bookstores, libraries and in private homes. The Last will not hold any more sway than any of the other movies do over the manga. Remember The Lost Tower, The Blood Prison? Yeah they have nothing to do with the manga. They barely register in memory, and no one talks about them.

 

It's just a shame. But this movie is so divergent from EVERYTHING Naruto ever stood for that's it hard not to wonder if Kishimoto really had much of hand in it at all. Except for signing off his approval and collecting his checks. Time will tell, I'm sure.



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Posted 24 November 2014 - 01:54 PM

Is this really happening? Naruhina wedding? 

Hey, Himawari and Bolt had to come from somewhere. I don't know why so many are shocked still. Its been weeks since the epilogue chapter came out. 

 

 

 

I just read from tumblr that a girl lives in japan that the owner of the manga store showed a surprise beautiful poster of naruto and sakura to her that is set to release on the stores exactly at 6th December. I don't know what to believe now

Would you rather believe the epilogue, every bit of info that has come out about the movie-- all pointing at NH or 'someone from tumblr' posting something' about some poster? Not that I don't think the poster is legit, its probably just a pity gift to us from Kishi and SP  :down:

Well Kishi, you can kitten off and keep that poster. 


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Posted 24 November 2014 - 01:57 PM

http://www.reddit.co...ng_has_started/
 

 
Is one of the clips to explain why Sakura never gave up on Sasuke lol. (It wasn't the whole movie, just clips)


Lool so the children love is the truest love? I can't even with this movie I'm just laughing

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Posted 24 November 2014 - 02:00 PM

 
Here's the thing though, it doesn't matter what a creator intends for his creation, it is how the public receives/perceives it. If the public doesn't accept it, then no matter how much the creator screams for it to be taken how he intended, it will never be.
 
No matter what he says, this movie will always be a tacked on retconn after the end of the manga. That wil never change. If he didn't want it to go that way, he could have required the movie to be released before the end of the manga, then the epilogue chapter could have come after. 
 
However, we know at least a little of how Kishimoto feels by his determinedly confusing and vague manga ending. If someone chose to read it as Lee being the dad and Karin being the mom, then there is more than a little visual evidence to support that.
 
In the long run, the manga is what lasts. In bookstores, libraries and in private homes. The Last will not hold any more sway than any of the other movies do over the manga. Remember The Lost Tower, The Blood Prison? Yeah they have nothing to do with the manga.
 
It's just a shame. But this movie is so divergent from EVERYTHING Naruto ever stood for that's it hard not to wonder if Kishimoto really had much of hand in it at all. Except for signing off his approval and collecting his checks. Time will tell, I'm sure.


I was one of the first people here to call this movie a retcon, all thanks to time not well spent in the Kingdom Hearts fandom. So yes, ofcourse it's a retcon, but Naruto is after all a cartoon about fictional ninjas, it's not going to create waves and unofficial published sequels to make two characters who should have been together be together, like in Gone with the Wind. Plus, there's a sizeable NH/ SS/ kids Fandom population that will bring them enough revenue anyway.

There's a leaked picture from the movie spoilers of what looks like Lee and Tenten's daughter.

I don't remember the other movies either, but they were alternate-universe stories. That's why Kishimoto himself has to release a statement saying this movie was intended to be in the mangaverse.

Edited by Nefertieh, 24 November 2014 - 02:01 PM.

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