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#13821 StrikerTheNoble

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 05:02 PM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Mar 27 2013, 05:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't forget her sleeping gas bombs! It will be the end of Madara if she unleashes those bad boys. pictureem0.gif

...This is making me depressed.


cut her some slack guys.

The poison kunai was there in case she didnt survive. Poison kills even when your dead. And what did you expect her to do KO her friends?

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 05:03 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Mar 27 2013, 05:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This poison kunai is an ultimate facepalm with stare cat with lasers in hell.
It's completely useless.


well, Hashirama was going to suicide.... with a Kunai LOL

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 05:04 PM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Mar 27 2013, 06:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't forget her sleeping gas bombs! It will be the end of Madara if she unleashes those bad boys. pictureem0.gif

...This is making me depressed.

Well she doesn't have that huge forehead for nothing! Maybe some force is sleeping inside of her(INNER SAKURA)? She has to unleash her.

Yeah I know what you mean...

EDIT: Now that you think about it, her real power is her taijutsu (Kakashi mentioned that she's a genjutsu type, but it probably works as her shield rather than weapon), she doesn't have anything as badass as chidori or rasengan, nor that blood-related stuff (kekkei genkai was it?). So how else could she kill Sasuke? Beat the kitten out of him?

Edited by Tauriel, 27 March 2013 - 05:11 PM.


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Posted 27 March 2013 - 05:09 PM

QUOTE (StrikerTheNoble @ Mar 27 2013, 12:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
cut her some slack guys.

The poison kunai was there in case she didnt survive. Poison kills even when your dead. And what did you expect her to do KO her friends?


Hmmmm... Slow painful death with kunai, orrrrrrrr a quick KO punch to end it all?

You decide. cool.gif She could of killed him if she really wanted to IMO minus the kunai. She had the perfect chance when she landed behind him, except, if it were me, I would of just came out of the sky ending it. He wouldn't even have the luxury of hearing me land on the water. LMAO

I still can't believe how terrible he's dealing with the heroine in this war. When her panel time starts, that kitten had better not stop. biggrin.gif She'd better be in every chapter until the scene changes.

Edited by StriderC, 27 March 2013 - 05:11 PM.


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Posted 27 March 2013 - 05:12 PM

QUOTE (Tauriel @ Mar 27 2013, 12:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well she doesn't have that huge forehead for nothing! Maybe some force is sleeping inside of her(INNER SAKURA)? She has to unleash her.

Yeah I know what you mean...

I actually wouldn't mind seeing Inner Sakura resurface. If Sakura learned a genjutsu that involved Inner Sakura, that would be the coolest thing.
Then there's this:
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#13826 StrikerTheNoble

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 05:13 PM

QUOTE (StriderC @ Mar 27 2013, 06:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmmmm... Slow painful death with kunai, orrrrrrrr a quick KO punch to end it all?

You decide. cool.gif She could of killed him if she really wanted to IMO minus the kunai. She had the perfect chance when she landed behind him, except, if it were me, I would of just came out of the sky ending it. He wouldn't even have the luxury of hearing me land on the water. LMAO

I still can't believe how terrible he's dealing with the heroine in this war. When he panel time starts, that kitten had better not stop. biggrin.gif She'd better be in every chapter until the scene changes.


I was reffering to her escort and the sleeping gas. The only other way to knock them out was an actuall KO punch from her. They are her friends she wouldn`t want to hurt them.

@slex

She looks nice but its a bit RtN Hinataish to me. I prefer Sakuras current outlook.

Edited by StrikerTheNoble, 27 March 2013 - 05:15 PM.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 05:18 PM

QUOTE (StrikerTheNoble @ Mar 27 2013, 12:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was reffering to her escort and the sleeping gas. The only other way to knock them out was an actuall KO punch from her. They are her friends she wouldn`t want to hurt them.

@slex

She looks nice but its a bit RtN Hinataish to me. I prefer Sakuras current outlook.

I was referring to the power-up:

"During periods of intense emotion or stress, Inner Sakura is able to physically manifest and take over Sakura's body. The manifestation shows itself in changes to Sakura's eyes (similar to the hatred-filled Naruto)."

I also really like the design that the artist gave her. I think it suits Sakura just fine.

Edited by Slextrem, 27 March 2013 - 05:19 PM.


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Posted 27 March 2013 - 05:20 PM

Man, you guys sure ask for flashy while the manga does have those ninjas to do that, but you can die by something so small and unnoticeable. It's as if you expect a beam from Sakura.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 05:20 PM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Mar 27 2013, 12:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I actually wouldn't mind seeing Inner Sakura resurface. If Sakura learned a genjutsu that involved Inner Sakura, that would be the coolest thing.
Then there's this:
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I wish... wow.png


It'd be cool if Inner Sakura were like her Susanoo. *-* I'd died if I saw something so badass. Especially Inner Sakura Part 2 version. biggrin.gif

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 05:21 PM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Mar 27 2013, 06:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was referring to the power-up. huh.gif

"During periods of intense emotion or stress, Inner Sakura is able to physically manifest and take over Sakura's body. The manifestation shows itself in changes to Sakura's eyes (similar to the hatred-filled Naruto)."


Yea would be cool but heres the funny thing. Inner Sakura was there because of Sasuke. part 1 Sakura did what she thaught Sasuke would like while Inner Sakura would do what Sakura would like (which is ironicly support Naruto or be extremly angry at him)

In part 2 she was not needed anymore. She could be Sakura around Naruto.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 05:25 PM

QUOTE (StrikerTheNoble @ Mar 27 2013, 12:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yea would be cool but heres the funny thing. Inner Sakura was there because of Sasuke. part 1 Sakura did what she thaught Sasuke would like while Inner Sakura would do what Sakura would like (which is ironicly support Naruto or be extremly angry at him)

In part 2 she was not needed anymore. She could be Sakura around Naruto.

Yes, I understand the basic purpose behind Inner Sakura.

*sigh* I can't even enjoy fantasizing about something cool without someone getting in my face about how it's not going to happen. I know that already.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 05:25 PM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Mar 27 2013, 12:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was referring to the power-up:

"During periods of intense emotion or stress, Inner Sakura is able to physically manifest and take over Sakura's body. The manifestation shows itself in changes to Sakura's eyes (similar to the hatred-filled Naruto)."

I also really like the design that the artist gave her. I think it suits Sakura just fine.


The design is definitely badass I practically like how they shortened her original pants, and made them short shorts. LOL biggrin.gif She didn't always wear those tights so I thought that was pretty cool.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 05:26 PM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Mar 27 2013, 07:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I actually wouldn't mind seeing Inner Sakura resurface. If Sakura learned a genjutsu that involved Inner Sakura, that would be the coolest thing.
Then there's this:
http://soul4projekti...akura-167004746

I wish... wow.png

Yeah, exactly.
I really miss inner Sakura. Hope Kishi will bring her up again. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE (Slextrem @ Mar 27 2013, 07:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes, I understand the basic purpose behind Inner Sakura.

*sigh* I can't even enjoy fantasizing about something cool without someone getting in my face about how it's not going to happen. I know that already.

What about inner Sakura during her chuunin fight with Ino? Because of her inner self she could push Ino out of her mind/body.

ALSO: I guess I remember seeing Inner Sakura in PART II NARUTO.... what chapter was it?

Edited by Tauriel, 27 March 2013 - 05:30 PM.


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Posted 27 March 2013 - 05:27 PM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Mar 27 2013, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes, I understand the basic purpose behind Inner Sakura.

*sigh* I can't even enjoy fantasizing about something cool without someone getting in my face about how it's not going to happen. I know that already.


Lets just say were even about the whole sexualizing the hug thing biggrin.gif

Feel free to fantasise further without my interuption biggrin.gif

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 05:28 PM

QUOTE (StriderC @ Mar 27 2013, 12:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The design is definitely badass I practically like how they shortened her original pants, and made them short shorts. LOL biggrin.gif She didn't always wear those tights so I thought that was pretty cool.

I really like her Jonin design. She looks so cool. biggrin.gif

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 05:29 PM

EDIT: I am really, really sorry for posting this and I feel kind of bad now because I see things have gotten a little happier since I started writing this post sad.gif. But I still stand by what I say.

QUOTE (Codus N @ Mar 27 2013, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The problem is, Hinata did something what Sakura never did or rather, should have done. Bring back Naruto from one of his darkest moments. And as for 617, I'm not focusing on how she fixed Naruto's shoulder and all that, I was focusing on the fact it followed up 615, where she was able to help Naruto in a MAJOR way. And oh, need I mention that healing Naruto is supposed to be Sakura's thing?? come 617, and here we are, we get a moment where she contributes to the hero in a big way. She did something what Sakura usually does best at.

And all this for her development?? facepalm.png

This is supposed to be one of the biggest moments in the manga, the heroine should be actively taking part in it, not just sit back in the damn kitchen. FMA was different, because it was strictly laid out that Winry's job is on the sidelines. But this can't be applied here because Sakura does have potential combat ability. Kishi should be putting that to good use.


1) No. Hinata did NOT do what Sakura should've done. Hinata did exactly as her character entails. Hinata's character from the beginning has been about being inspired by Naruto. It makes sense that now she gets to do the inspiring. Had Sakura been there in that moment then Kishimoto would just later on give her another moment to shine. No matter which way you cut it that was NOT meant for Sakura, it was meant for Hinata.

2) 'one of his darkest moments'...But not thee darkest eh? Naruto's going to have his doubts. It's what makes him human. And in those doubts as contrast to his horrible past before he's going to have friends come up and reassure him. Plenty of other times he has had down moments other characters stepped up to the plate and brought him out of it. But now that Hinata has done it suddenly it's 'OH NO SAKURA SHOULD'VE BEEN THERE!'

3) Healing Naruto is KURAMA'S thing. And how many times has it been stated that popping a dislocated shoulder back into place isn't something that takes years of medical training to learn?

4) Yes it's for her development.

5) The ten-tails is not the final boss, Sasuke is. THe ten tails is like a boss level before the final boss. This will not be Naruto's darkest moments because Naruto has no emotional investment in the 10-tails, Madara or Obito. however he does have emotion investment in Sasuke. it stands to reason that preparing for his fight with Sasuke(because YES there will be a preparing period/maybe arc and you can expect Sakura to show up) will have more emotional turmoil and Sakura will have to be by his side

6) One of the biggest moments in the manga...in a volume dedicated for the side characters. Notice how Kakashi and Sai also got no focus since the alliance showed up.

Not to sound mean here or anything but don't you think you are making a mistake here by assuming the manga will be over in a like 5 chapters or something?

And I really don't understand you that much. I've seen you make many(like MANY) statements saying 'such and such manga did this better' and 'I don't really care about Naruto anymore' and yet here you are. I think you care more than you are willing to admit honestly. And it seems liek your new role here is to constantly(CONSTANTLY) compare Naruto to (finished) manga written by more experienced authors. Do you want him to plagiarize or something? Write the same thing we've already seen over(and over) and possibly get flak for it? And for someone who jumps on others for being close-minded you don't listen to others very well yourself...

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This! Sakura's not just a medical ninja like many people make her out to be. If that were the case, she'd be solely like Rin. I don't even think Rin fought. A lot of medical ninja don't fight but Sakura does fight, and she's damn good at it so to expect her to just heal is ridiculous to me when her personality doesn't even suit it completely. She has superhuman strength for a reason, and we've seen her capabilities in a real battle already. She was able to hold her own, offer splendid assist, and in the end she was one of the main reasons why she and Chiyo lived in the Sasori fight. He needs to do better by her instead of focusing so much on his secondary character. I have no problem with Hinata, but she's gotten wayyyyy too much panel time in this war... And she's been spamming jutsu like mad. LMAO.


Her medic skills are not a bad thing for her characters.

Face it Sakura was SO good at being a healer, they called for her off of the freaking battlefield despite having medics from ALL of the countries who, as you said, have no battle skills.

Think about it.

Medics solely trained to do medic work could not handle the injured people from the war.

THey HAD to call in Sakura who has multiple skills to come help them. THAT'S how great she is. THAT'S how important and crucial she is.

To make things better she's a teenager working with adults. Medics and everyone needs her just like how everyone needs Naruto to fight in the war.

She also figured out how to defeat the Zetsu. Kishimoto could've EASILY had SHikamaru figure it out or one of the generals or Shizune even. But no it was the 16-17 year old GENIUS who figured out how to stop the invasion. THAT'S amazing!

Said super strength is the result of perfect chakra control which is good for many things including medics. Becoming a medic does fit her personality if you think about her character development. Sakura wants to be helpful. And she is. Have you ever heard about someone dying under her care? Have you EVER heard about her failures as a medic?

She may be a hot tempered person but she did not train under Tsunade just to learn how to fight. She wanted to learn how to be helpful, how to use her chakra control to the best of it's ability. And you know what? She did! She is also smart enough to know when to use which skills when. I hope you don't honestly think she'll abandon someone in need just to fight because that's what it sounds like(it's a WAR meaning plenty of people are getting hurt which means her medic skills are needed.) As for the unused genjutsu potential well now she has something else she can work on for the rest of her life. Do you ever hear bad things about her combat skills either?

This is gonna be my first and only time debating this. I know that normally no one normally pays attention to me here but seriously all complaining(and complaining and complaining) and hypocrisy(dear GOD the HYPOCRISY!) and of course, attacking others for the crime of having a different opinion(yes I've been attacked before for this reason on here) has turned me off from this site. I used to be excited coming here but now...nope. I still love Naruto and NaruSaku with all my heart so yeah this place isn't fun(sorry to say).

Edited by BabyVee, 27 March 2013 - 05:33 PM.


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Posted 27 March 2013 - 05:31 PM

Do you guys think that maybe Sakura's talent in genjutsu is about her capacity to dispel high level illusions instead of creating them?

You need good chakra control in order to dispel genjutsus, something Sakura excels on.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 05:35 PM

QUOTE (BabyVee @ Mar 27 2013, 06:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
EDIT: I am really, really sorry for posting this and I feel kind of bad now because I see things have gotten a little happier since I started writing this post sad.gif. But I still stand by what I say.



1) No. Hinata did NOT do what Sakura should've done. Hinata did exactly as her character entails. Hinata's character from the beginning has been about being inspired by Naruto. It makes sense that now she gets to do the inspiring. Had Sakura been there in that moment then Kishimoto would just later on give her another moment to shine. No matter which way you cut it that was NOT meant for Sakura, it was meant for Hinata.

2) 'one of his darkest moments'...But not thee darkest eh? Naruto's going to have his doubts. It's what makes him human. And in those doubts as contrast to his horrible past before he's going to have friends come up and reassure him. Plenty of other times he has had down moments other characters stepped up to the plate and brought him out of it. But now that Hinata has done it suddenly it's 'OH NO SAKURA SHOULD'VE BEEN THERE!'

3) Healing Naruto is KURAMA'S thing. And how many times has it been stated that popping a dislocated shoulder back into place isn't something that takes years of medical training to learn?

4) Yes it's for her development.

5) The ten-tails is not the final boss, Sasuke is. THe ten tails is like a boss level before the final boss. This will not be Naruto's darkest moments because Naruto has no emotional investment in the 10-tails, Madara or Obito. however he does have emotion investment in Sasuke. it stands to reason that preparing for his fight with Sasuke(because YES there will be a preparing period/maybe arc and you can expect Sakura to show up) will have more emotional turmoil and Sakura will have to be by his side

6) One of the biggest moments in the manga...in a volume dedicated for the side characters. Notice how Kakashi and Sai also got no focus since the alliance showed up.

Not to sound mean here or anything but don't you think you are making a mistake here by assuming the manga will be over in a like 5 chapters or something?

And I really don't understand you that much. I've seen you make many(like MANY) statements saying 'such and such manga did this better' and 'I don't really care about Naruto anymore' and yet here you are. I think you care more than you are willing to admit honestly. And it seems liek your new role here is to constantly(CONSTANTLY) compare Naruto to (finished) manga written by more experienced authors. Do you want him to plagiarize or something? Write the same thing we've already seen over(and over) and possibly get flak for it? And for someone who jumps on others for being close-minded you don't listen to others very well yourself...



Her medic skills are not a bad thing for her characters.

Face it Sakura was SO good at being a healer, they called for her off of the freaking battlefield despite having medics from ALL of the countries who, as you said, have no battle skills.

Think about it.

Medics solely trained to do medic work could not handle the injured people from the war.

THey HAD to call in Sakura who has multiple skills to come help them. THAT'S how great she is. THAT'S how important and crucial she is.

To make things better she's a teenager working with adults. Medics and everyone needs her just like how everyone needs Naruto to fight in the war.

She also figured out how to defeat the Zetsu. Kishimoto could've EASILY had SHikamaru figure it out or one of the generals or Shizune even. But no it was the 16-17 year old GENIUS who figured out how to stop the invasion. THAT'S amazing!

Said super strength is the result of perfect chakra control which is good for many things including medics. Becoming a medic does fit her personality if you think about her character development. Sakura wants to be helpful. And she is. Have you ever heard about someone dying under her care? Have you EVER heard about her failures as a medic?

She may be a hot tempered person but she did not train under Tsunade just to learn how to fight. She wanted to learn how to be helpful, how to use her chakra control to the best of it's ability. And you know what? She did! She is also smart enough to know when to use which skills when. I hope you don't honestly think she'll abandon someone in need just to fight because that's what it sounds like(it's a WAR meaning plenty of people are getting hurt which means her medic skills are needed.) As for the unused genjutsu potential well now she has something else she can work on for the rest of her life. Do you ever hear bad things about her combat skills either?

This is gonna be my first and only time debating this. I know that normally no one normally pays attention to me here but seriously all complaining(and complaining and complaining) and hypocrisy(dear GOD the HYPOCRISY!) and of course, attacking others for the crime of having a different opinion(yes I've been attacked before for this reason on here) has turned me off from this site. I used to be excited coming here but now...nope. I still love Naruto and NaruSaku with all my heart so yeah this place isn't fun(sorry to say).



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Posted 27 March 2013 - 05:35 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Mar 27 2013, 07:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do you guys think that maybe Sakura's talent in genjutsu is about her capacity to dispel high level illusions instead of creating them?

You need good chakra control in order to dispel genjutsus, something Sakura excels on.

Yep, someone speculated that if Madara will cast that powerful genjutsu of his, she will be amongst those people (or the only one) who is immune to it.

@BabyVee Great post! cool.gif

Edited by Tauriel, 27 March 2013 - 05:39 PM.


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Posted 27 March 2013 - 05:35 PM

QUOTE (StrikerTheNoble @ Mar 27 2013, 12:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lets just say were even about the whole sexualizing the hug thing biggrin.gif

Feel free to fantasise further without my interuption biggrin.gif

Seriously? I can't believe you're going to take a jab at me for stopping you from talking about the possibility of Naruto getting a boner while hugging Sakura.

Striker, why do you always want to sexualize everything you see in the manga? I understand that you're 16 and hormonal, but life isn't about humping everything you see. Some people want to enjoy the innocent things in life, which is how most of the people here view the manga. It's not supposed to be sexualized and talking about it that way completely ruins the story.

If you really really need to talk about sex in the series, go make a thread about it. Or better yet, make a blog and express yourself there. Don't do it where everyone else has to read it.




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