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#1361 Branden

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 12:34 PM

QUOTE (kirabook @ Jun 13 2012, 05:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Once again, I reiterate, Naruto's relationship with Sakura has never been a "second best" type since the very beginning. The relationship she has had with Sasuke, even before part 1, was never influenced by Sasuke decision. Sakura has not decided to get with Naruto just because Sasuke is gone. It's never been hinted at or thought about.

Technically, Sakura already chose to keep Naruto rather than even hope for Sasuke to return.

NS is not canon, but it's well on it's way, and I don't think Sasuke's situation needs to really be resolved. There just has to be a situation where she has to officially chose between the two in a more obvious light since people ignore her decision to kill Sasuke just to release Naruto of her curse.



I just hope Kishi doesn't mess this up. It would really suck for the pairing I've supported for so long would have a bad realization.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 01:07 PM

QUOTE (kirabook @ Jun 13 2012, 07:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Once again, I reiterate, Naruto's relationship with Sakura has never been a "second best" type since the very beginning. The relationship she has had with Sasuke, even before part 1, was never influenced by Sasuke decision. Sakura has not decided to get with Naruto just because Sasuke is gone. It's never been hinted at or thought about.

Technically, Sakura already chose to keep Naruto rather than even hope for Sasuke to return.

NS is not canon, but it's well on it's way, and I don't think Sasuke's situation needs to really be resolved. There just has to be a situation where she has to officially chose between the two in a more obvious light since people ignore her decision to kill Sasuke just to release Naruto of her curse.

I think she might have chosen already. Her words in chapter 573 carried a LOT of weight behind them.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 01:15 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Jun 13 2012, 03:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No no no, Narusaku can't happen if the problem with Sasuke isn't resolved. If it does, then I wouldn't be a narusaku fan anymore, because there will always be the doubt that Naruto is 2nd best to Sasuke. Sakura needs to prove she loves Naruto over Sasuke. And the only way for that to happen is if she can choose in a calm environment, while Sasuke is no longer corrupted. Refer to my previous comment to how I think it will happen.


I strongly believe that NaruSaku doesn't need a good Sasuke for Sakura to choose Naruto over Sasuke, some of us only think that way because we want to shut up the NH and SS fan that will say that NaruSaku only happen because Sasuke was not around.

Many of us know that Sakura only had a strong crush for Sasuke and it never develops, she likes Sasuke because Kishi wants her to like him, but at this point we can clearly see who Sakura trust, care for, believe in, choose and have deeper feelings for, plus in a situation of life and death between the two guys we know who she really don't want to miss/lose.

Lets face it our pride is the only thing that drives us to wish for Sakura to choose Naruto over a good Sasuke to throw it in the face of the fans who spend time saying that NS only happen because Sasuke was not around.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 01:15 PM

QUOTE (Dalton (I stink at names) @ Jun 13 2012, 06:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think she might have chosen already. Her words in chapter 573 carried a LOT of weight behind them.

she has already choosen naruto that cant be said though logic saysa that . we know that its going to happen but for her crying we cant say that

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 01:51 PM

It is not pride to believe Sakura will choose Naruto over Sasuke even If he does turn good. I don't care about putting other pairings down or getting back at them either.

I truly believe that the Saturated Saturated has become and developed into will choose Naruto over Sasuke period.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 02:19 PM

QUOTE (kirabook @ Jun 13 2012, 09:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It is not pride to believe Sakura will choose Naruto over Sasuke even If he does turn good. I don't care about putting other pairings down or getting back at them either.

I truly believe that the Saturated Saturated has become and developed into will choose Naruto over Sasuke period.

Edit: the auto correct... it Burns strongly. How do I turn it off? *sigh*



Some of us.

That's what I said in my post, you are reading the thread you already know who are the NS fans that think that way. For me any canon NS will be OK and I'm sure you like me and many others thing this way too, but there are some that will love to throw it in other fans face.
Sakura not choosen Naruto over a good Sasuke will not be good for them. Honestly I don't know why?

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 04:31 PM

QUOTE (donjoseph19 @ Jun 13 2012, 06:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I strongly believe that NaruSaku doesn't need a good Sasuke for Sakura to choose Naruto over Sasuke, some of us only think that way because we want to shut up the NH and SS fan that will say that NaruSaku only happen because Sasuke was not around.

Many of us know that Sakura only had a strong crush for Sasuke and it never develops, she likes Sasuke because Kishi wants her to like him, but at this point we can clearly see who Sakura trust, care for, believe in, choose and have deeper feelings for, plus in a situation of life and death between the two guys we know who she really don't want to miss/lose.

Lets face it our pride is the only thing that drives us to wish for Sakura to choose Naruto over a good Sasuke to throw it in the face of the fans who spend time saying that NS only happen because Sasuke was not around.



You can try to eleborate all you want. But your still wrong. My thoughts are that if NS happens in a way that ignores the fact she has loved Sasuke, then the entire point of this struggle would be disregarded. Sakura needs to have her feelings resolved in a way that cannot be doubted. A way that has absolute 0 speculation. If next chapter Sakura and Naruto get together then I'll be done with this couple entirely and I'll be gone from this website. Kishimoto needs to resolve the problems he's put into this couple if he wants me to respect it.

Let me give you an example, just give me a second to put my fan fiction gloves on.
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After the edo tensei is release the jinchiriki die leaving behind the tailed beasts, however the tailed beasts think Naruto will try to merge them all so they revolt. After a long fight the tailed beasts are sealed away, and Naruto lies bleeding to death in the rain. Sakura's squad shows up to aid them. Sakura sees Naruto bleeding and rushes over to save him. She starts healing him but there's no response. Sakura cry's over Naruto and then pulls him into a hug then whispers "Please Naruto, don't leave me, I love you." Naruto hugs her back with a smile on his face. "Please don't cry Sakura"
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I'll leave the rest of that fan fiction up to you.


Now what was wrong with that? It seems fine right? Sakura realized her feelings for Naruto and everybody lived happily ever after biggrin.gif. Right?

No. Just no. Sakura already loves Naruto, and the reason Naruto didn't accept that is because he knows she still loves Sasuke.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 04:49 PM

Kishi needs to resolves nothing, this is Kishi's Manga and as far I can tell he can make NH out of the blue he can make SasuSaku out of no where with some cliche moment and no one can say a damn thing about it more than compling.
So if he makes NaruSaku without Sasuke is because Sakura realize that loving Sasuke is not good and in that process she also realize that her feeling for Naruto are deeper than what she ever thought, we just need to accept the way he made it happen and be happy about it.
Honestly some fans wants to demand only for self satisfaction not because the author is obliged to do so.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 04:51 PM

QUOTE (donjoseph19 @ Jun 13 2012, 09:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Kishi needs to resolves nothing, this is Kishi's Manga and as far I can tell he can make NH out of the blue he can make SasuSaku out of no where with some cliche moment and no one can say a damn thing about it more than compling.
So if he makes NaruSaku without Sasuke is because Sakura realize that loving Sasuke is not good and in that process she also realize that her feeling for Naruto are deeper than what she ever thought, we just need to accept the way he made it happen and be happy about it.
Honestly some fans wants to demand only for self satisfaction not because the author is obliged to do so.

How cute.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 05:18 PM

You see... that is why people were jumping on your case earlier. That reply does nothing but make people upset and adds nothing to the conversation.

I agree that Kishi can do whatever he wants with his manga, but still, a reader would want it to be done properly. It is important for an author to convey certain feelings and make us, the readers, believe what is happening is true.

Most feel that Sakura will need to choose, no if's or but's in her decision. Kishi can and will do whatever he wants, and while I feel some people are a little extreme with their feelings on how things will go, I admit I will be disappointed doubt and questioning can still happen later.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 05:21 PM

QUOTE (kirabook @ Jun 13 2012, 10:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You see... that is why people were jumping on your case earlier. That reply does nothing but make people upset and adds nothing to the conversation.

I agree that Kishi can do whatever he wants with his manga, but still, a reader would want it to be done properly. It is important for an author to convey certain feelings and make us, the readers believe what is happening is true.

Most feel that Sakura will need to choose, no if's or but's in her decision. Kishi can and will do whatever he wants, and while I feel some people are a little extreme with their feelings on how things will go, I admit I will be disappointed doubt and questioning can still happen later.

I doubt that, I got alot of disagreement when I pointed that out.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 05:42 PM

QUOTE (donjoseph19 @ Jun 13 2012, 11:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Kishi needs to resolves nothing, this is Kishi's Manga and as far I can tell he can make NH out of the blue he can make SasuSaku out of no where with some cliche moment and no one can say a damn thing about it more than compling.
So if he makes NaruSaku without Sasuke is because Sakura realize that loving Sasuke is not good and in that process she also realize that her feeling for Naruto are deeper than what she ever thought, we just need to accept the way he made it happen and be happy about it.
Honestly some fans wants to demand only for self satisfaction not because the author is obliged to do so.

Just looking at the picture you have as your signature...it really makes me wonder HOW people call sakura ugly. It really does.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 05:50 PM

Ok, I was looking through another debate thread and it was why NH will never happen. Take a look at what this guy posted.

These are apparently becoming popular questions. But Kishi has pretty much destroyed NaruHina. Look at this link.

http://narutoxsakura...akura-299391235

This is the latest data book on Sakura. Seven pages and written by Kishi himself.



Sakura had seven pages in the data book. Hinata only had two, and Kishi practically made fun of Hinata as well. he said this in the illustrations data, every single word: "Hinata is crumpy. (laugh) Hinata has a bland appearance. I tried to make her frumpy by reducing the amount of skin she shows. She's not too interested in fashion. I wanted to make her cute, but frumpy.Crumpy.(laugh)" that's what was in the book, even the laugh parts.

And if you want proof Hinata's over rated for no reason at all.



And may as well post this one!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8ucMwnW32E

and the points this guy puts out.

http://www.youtube.c...;feature=relmfu

Plain, simple, kindergarten level! NaruHina is NOT happening!


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Posted 13 June 2012 - 05:51 PM

QUOTE (Dalton (I stink at names) @ Jun 13 2012, 09:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just looking at the picture you have as your signature...it really makes me wonder HOW people call sakura ugly. It really does.

Yeah I know right dry.gif ? If you asked me (I'm not being biased here only as an anime fan). Sakura is the most prettiest female in all anime and she doesn't have hot looks or anything like that.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 05:58 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Jun 13 2012, 12:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My thoughts are that if NS happens in a way that ignores the fact she has loved Sasuke, then the entire point of this struggle would be disregarded.

Um, that's the problem. The fact that she loved him has never been ignored. In fact, Naruto was so stubbornly clinging to the old Sasuke, the old Team 7 dynamic. That's why he had a mini-breakdown and hyperventilated himself unconcious.

Now, if you're wanting to see Sakura be punished some way for having a pre-teen crush, then...let me direct you ff.net. Tons of that there. Kishimoto's treatment of her is respectful — I don't think we're going to see her suffer for the sake of suffering.

Your style of arguing only certain points and having ready zingers to throw back at everyone reminds me of someone who was recently on this site...and reprimanded by the mods. Watch yourself, because uncalled for remarks like the "How cute" a few posts back will get you headed in the same direction.

Edited by tricksie, 13 June 2012 - 06:05 PM.


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Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:00 PM

QUOTE (Zeref @ Jun 13 2012, 12:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah I know right dry.gif ? If you asked me (I'm not being biased here only as an anime fan). Sakura is the most prettiest female in all anime and she doesn't have hot looks or anything like that.

well hell. She's a freaking angel in the manga! I really don't get how people call her those things. Probably wouldn't know a pretty girl if one came up and kissed them on the cheek.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:09 PM

I find Sakura pretty ordinary. I don't know... I don't really see females as being mega pretty. They aren't at all ugly mind you, and of course they all have the perfect anime faces, but they seem just... normal. Especially in Naruto. huh.gif

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:11 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Jun 13 2012, 01:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I doubt that, I got alot of disagreement when I pointed that out.


While is truth that we can disagree with what I say the fact is that Kishi can do anything he wants with his Manga, we has fans have nothing to say or add more than compelain or feel dissatisfied with the end.
The only reason I want Sasuke to be redeemed is for Sakura to choose Naruto over a good Sasuke, that will be like adding icing on the cake, but I already learn to accept that Kishi can do anything he wants and he don't need to explain anything.

Edited by donjoseph19, 13 June 2012 - 06:19 PM.


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Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:49 PM

QUOTE (donjoseph19 @ Jun 13 2012, 11:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
While is truth that we can disagree with what I say the fact is that Kishi can do anything he wants with his Manga, we has fans have nothing to say or add more than compelain or feel dissatisfied with the end.
The only reason I want Sasuke to be redeemed is for Sakura to choose Naruto over a good Sasuke, that will be like adding icing on the cake, but I already learn to accept that Kishi can do anything he wants and he don't need to explain anything.

he has an obligation to give his fans a decent story. If you just bluntly accept watever he does then your not a fan, your a zombie.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 07:14 PM

Yep I'm a zombie. I read his Manga for free on the internet and you are the one who is paying him the big money. So yes he adds an obligation to you not with me. Just like how Akira Toriyama makes de Vegeta Bulma to piss the fans off or refuse to keep writing more Dragon Ball, but with Kishi it's different because you're the one that's paying him.

This does not add anything to the debate, but I feel that you have a very arrogant and rude attitude.

Edited by donjoseph19, 13 June 2012 - 07:17 PM.





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