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[TouKen4Life3g]

Indeed, we shall go down in fandom history as the martyrs for which tens of thousands of dormant NS fans shall rise up and fight for justice, good writing, and simple logic once again!





....I need some coffee.

Classic. Lol. That new chapter sure is taking long to come out.

[FrenchMyToast]

That's my plan. Anyway, we got 3 chapters left. Be prepare.

Just wondering, but 3 chapters until what exactly?

But people are getting waaaaay too worked up over this cover. I can't even bring myself to feel threatened. If it was just those two holding hands/whatever, then maybe I would be concerned, but it wasn't. So it's just a cover for a volume of a manga. That's all.

And I'm kind of hoping for some Mito soon. If she ends up being like Kushina/Sakura (which she probably will be IMO), then that would be a huge boost for NS. Straight up Sakura or NaruSaku moments are better, but I wouldn't mind seeing the First's wife.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Just wondering, but 3 chapters until what exactly?

But people are getting waaaaay too worked up over this cover. I can't even bring myself to feel threatened. If it was just those two holding hands/whatever, then maybe I would be concerned, but it wasn't. So it's just a cover for a volume of a manga. That's all.

And I'm kind of hoping for some Mito soon. If she ends up being like Kushina/Sakura (which she probably will be IMO), then that would be a huge boost for NS. Straight up Sakura or NaruSaku moments are better, but I wouldn't mind seeing the First's wife.

3 chapters left to the volume before we go back to the war, though maybe I miscounted but it's very near, so yeah. I think the flashback may have two more left in them and then, Sasuke's final conclusion.

As for Mito, I do think it will bring up by something that brings up Uzumaki. Examples like:
- Sasuke or Minato says "Uzumaki Naruto" out loud to where Hashirama can hear and talk briefly about it.
- If Minato explains why Naruto carries the name Uzumaki instead of his, to make Sasuke understand that he's truly the father of Naruto.
- Karin bumps to them and Hashirama will easily recognized her as Uzumaki, thanks to red-hair.

...And so many more. We just have to wait and see.

[FrenchMyToast]

3 chapters left to the volume before we go back to the war, though maybe I miscounted but it's very near, so yeah. I think the flashback may have two more left in them and then, Sasuke's final conclusion.

As for Mito, I do think it will bring up by something that brings up Uzumaki. Examples like:
- Sasuke or Minato says "Uzumaki Naruto" out loud to where Hashirama can hear and talk briefly about it.
- If Minato explains why Naruto carries the name Uzumaki instead of his, to make Sasuke understand that he's truly the father of Naruto.
- Karin bumps to them and Hashirama will easily recognized her as Uzumaki, thanks to red-hair.

...And so many more. We just have to wait and see.

That's good to know. This flashback has been getting a bit dull to be perfectly honest. Going back to the main battle will be a great change of scenery. Although I did like being able to read each chapter without having to pray for no BS NaruHina (mostly just one-sided Hinata) moments.

And for Mito, I find your first scenario to be the most likely to happen. But it's not really the approach I'm worried about, it's the actual presentation. I just hope he doesn't butcher her personality. But I expect her to be a strong willed person like other Uzumakis. I mean, somebody has to keep Hashirama in line, right?

[TouKen4Life3g]

That's good to know. This flashback has been getting a bit dull to be perfectly honest. Going back to the main battle will be a great change of scenery. Although I did like being able to read each chapter without having to pray for no BS NaruHina (mostly just one-sided Hinata) moments.

And for Mito, I find your first scenario to be the most likely to happen. But it's not really the approach I'm worried about, it's the actual presentation. I just hope he doesn't butcher her personality. But I expect her to be a strong willed person like other Uzumakis. I mean, somebody has to keep Hashirama in line, right?

Well yeah, I know what you mean about the first part. We just have to wait and see. It's now or never. If the pattern does go the way I think, we may be in luck, really lucky. Until then, embrace few more chapters left. It's going to be our last break before everything gets to wild.

Well, I keep hearing that Uzumaki are known for being hot headed or something like that. Someone in here addressed it. I would like someone to correct me here.

[FrenchMyToast]

Well yeah, I know what you mean about the first part. We just have to wait and see. It's now or never. If the pattern does go the way I think, we may be in luck, really lucky. Until then, embrace few more chapters left. It's going to be our last break before everything gets to wild.

Well, I keep hearing that Uzumaki are known for being hot headed or something like that. Someone in here addressed it. I would like someone to correct me here.

Yeah, but I feel like the storm has passed. Like it really can't get worse that the hand holding. Even though it didn't affect me (and many others), it was still too much for my liking. I could go on a rant about why 615 is much less significant than others make it out to be, but that's for a different debate. And if that pattern is correct, we may be in store for some major NaruSaku.

And I think it's a pretty common thought that the Uzumakis are a wild bunch. The only notable exception would be Nagato, I guess, but war and hatred really burned him out. But we have parallels with MinaKushi, which is pretty much the only significant cannon pairing (unless I'm forgetting something), so I'm not worrying about much.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Yeah, but I feel like the storm has passed. Like it really can't get worse that the hand holding. Even though it didn't affect me (and many others), it was still too much for my liking. I could go on a rant about why 615 is much less significant than others make it out to be, but that's for a different debate. And if that pattern is correct, we may be in store for some major NaruSaku.

And I think it's a pretty common thought that the Uzumakis are a wild bunch. The only notable exception would be Nagato, I guess, but war and hatred really burned him out. But we have parallels with MinaKushi, which is pretty much the only significant cannon pairing (unless I'm forgetting something), so I'm not worrying about much.

Well, if Team 7 is really next, then prepare for the big bomb. Well, Hinata had chances to make herself parallel either Kushina or Rin, but she lost it. The whole volume was about friendship and how they are connected. If Obito is going to get TnJ, then this isn't working. The best possible way to relive his nightmare and it's fitting for Naruto doing something to remind him. It's about how it all plays. So far, no sign of him turning good in the final minute, so there's more yet to come.

Well, you got to remember, Nagato's flashback began immediately the day that changed his life. So far, they are definitely rowdy and now that Hashirama is known to be a goofball, it makes you wonder what about Mito. I mean lately looks can be deceiving, thanks to Hashirama, so who knows.

[FrenchMyToast]

Well, if Team 7 is really next, then prepare for the big bomb. Well, Hinata had chances to make herself parallel either Kushina or Rin, but she lost it. The whole volume was about friendship and how they are connected. If Obito is going to get TnJ, then this isn't working. The best possible way to relive his nightmare and it's fitting for Naruto doing something to remind him. It's about how it all plays. So far, no sign of him turning good in the final minute, so there's more yet to come.

Well, you got to remember, Nagato's flashback began immediately the day that changed his life. So far, they are definitely rowdy and now that Hashirama is known to be a goofball, it makes you wonder what about Mito. I mean lately looks can be deceiving, thanks to Hashirama, so who knows.

Obito really hasn't been affected yet. Friendship is just not working on him. He made that clear when he killed Neji and went on to mock Naruto right after. Love is the key. He's going to have to be reminded about Rin for TnJ to work. The NaruSaku and ObiRin parallel is probably what's going to be the "final blow." Remember, Nagato only changed when he was connected to Naruto through Jiraiya and his teachings/beliefs. We have yet to see any connection for Obito. Although he is curious about Naruto, he is far from changing.

I think the "looks are deceiving" thing actually works in our favor. She looks elegant and classy, but she might be the exact opposite. Not sloppy, but honest. I can't really see her as a shy person either way, but that's entirely up to you.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

It's about time you show up. I have to fix these problems, but the cycle continues.

I don't understand my own NaruSaku fanbase sometimes. Many of us seem so self-assured that NaruSaku will be the canon end pairing, myself included. And then I see some so-called "confident" NS fans jump ship or freak out over the slightest things of NH. Like this cover for instance. I thought most of us were past that. I understand it a little, seeing it in a cover would sting a bit. But seriously? It's nothing new to us. So Naruto and Hinata are holding hands? We dealt with it and then we saw the aftermath in 616. The troll most of us laughed out, remember? It's hard to stay level-headed sometimes with her shipping bias. Positvely or negative, it often causes us to overreact. I'm no exception to this, I've over-reacted a lot.

Logically, I do think it's possible that NaruHina is getting more importance through this cover. We cannot deny this, it's not impossible. But my main qualm with this is that it'd be bad story-telling. Disregarding the NS development and asspull NH this late? I don't believe Kishi would go that far. It makes even less sense when the MinaKushi/NaruSaku parallel was confirmed in RtN and Naruto was still in love with Sakura not even that long ago. No one, especially in the Narutoverse, can get over love that easily. Add Naruto's one-track, determined personality as well and how he can't let go of bonds (romantic, brotherly etc.) easily because he cherishes it too much. With him, no matter what happens, his main bonds still remain unchanged because Naruto doesn't change his mind when he decides the nature of his bonds. Sasuke, despite his darkness, is his brother and someone he's glad he met. Iruka's like a big bro/father figure and he's seen Sakura romantically the entire time despite her love for Sasuke and her "lie".

There is my irrational shipper side that is annoyed and slightly worried about the cover but my logical beliefs over NaruSaku overcome the shipper side. Maybe I'm under-reacting, maybe I'm not. IMO, I think I'm in between.

For those of you who are doubting NS, the best medicine for that is to re-watch the 6th Naruto movie. It'll make you feel better and hopefully restore some confidence in the likely end pairing. I'm not criticizing you for doubting, it's normal. But let's not forget this: Naruto isn't over yet, we still have another 1 1/2 years for chapters. A lot can happen during those chapters. Nothing is set in stone, not NH or NS.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Obito really hasn't been affected yet. Friendship is just not working on him. He made that clear when he killed Neji and went on to mock Naruto right after. Love is the key. He's going to have to be reminded about Rin for TnJ to work. The NaruSaku and ObiRin parallel is probably what's going to be the "final blow." Remember, Nagato only changed when he was connected to Naruto through Jiraiya and his teachings/beliefs. We have yet to see any connection for Obito. Although he is curious about Naruto, he is far from changing.

I think the "looks are deceiving" thing actually works in our favor. She looks elegant and classy, but she might be the exact opposite. Not sloppy, but honest. I can't really see her as a shy person either way, but that's entirely up to you.

Exactly. That's where we wait and see how everything goes down. Again, Naruto doesn't know what made him like that, but he knows there's a huge pain within him. He probably did hear the reason why, but don't think he knows full details about it. If the parallel gets confirmed, it's all over. You're right about Nagato. Funny that I didn't think about it.

Yeah, you're right about looks can be deceiving. So far, it has been in good favor. It's only matter of time the truth will be unfold and we can see where she came from. Btw I like your sig. I noticed what happens in that sig.

I don't understand my own NaruSaku fanbase sometimes. Many of us seem so self-assured that NaruSaku will be the canon end pairing, myself included. And then I see some so-called "confident" NS fans jump ship or freak out over the slightest things of NH. Like this cover for instance. I thought most of us were past that. I understand it a little, seeing it in a cover would sting a bit. But seriously? It's nothing new to us. So Naruto and Hinata are holding hands? We dealt with it and then we saw the aftermath in 616. The troll most of us laughed out, remember? It's hard to stay level-headed sometimes with her shipping bias. Positvely or negative, it often causes us to overreact. I'm no exception to this, I've over-reacted a lot.

Logically, I do think it's possible that NaruHina is getting more importance through this cover. We cannot deny this, it's not impossible. But my main qualm with this is that it'd be bad story-telling. Disregarding the NS development and asspull NH this late? I don't believe Kishi would go that far. It makes even less sense when the MinaKushi/NaruSaku parallel was confirmed in RtN and Naruto was still in love with Sakura not even that long ago. No one, especially in the Narutoverse, can get over love that easily. Add Naruto's one-track, determined personality as well and how he can't let go of bonds (romantic, brotherly etc.) easily because he cherishes it too much. With him, no matter what happens, his main bonds still remain unchanged because Naruto doesn't change his mind when he decides the nature of his bonds. Sasuke, despite his darkness, is his brother and someone he's glad he met. Iruka's like a big bro/father figure and he's seen Sakura romantically the entire time despite her love for Sasuke and her "lie".

There is my irrational shipper side that is annoyed and slightly worried about the cover but my logical beliefs over NaruSaku overcome the shipper side. Maybe I'm under-reacting, maybe I'm not. IMO, I think I'm in between.

For those of you who are doubting NS, the best medicine for that is to re-watch the 6th Naruto movie. It'll make you feel better and hopefully restore some confidence in the likely end pairing. I'm not criticizing you for doubting, it's normal. But let's not forget this: Naruto isn't over yet, we still have another 1 1/2 years for chapters. A lot can happen during those chapters. Nothing is set in stone, not NH or NS.

Well said. Check my comment and see what you think.

I do like the cover. I made a post before but yeah. Well my idea is about friendship and while yes romance can be shown in hand holding, there are couple of things to be well aware. First off, you only get 50% of romance and obviously it comes from Hinata. Naruto didn't show it. So it begs the question: where does it leads? If Naruto still loves Sakura, then this moment is now a bond of friendship. If he moves on, it's a bond of strong personal relationship, alas love. So yes, pretty much it's on the mercy of Naruto.

Lastly, we don't know how the meaning behind it, the fact the atmosphere is missing and hard to decipher, which keeps screaming, "friendship". Oddly enough, it didn't have that special background that screams "strong emotion inbound". Anyway, I stand by that the volume was in fact about friends' bond. Neji was like a sacrifice to let everyone know that they shouldn't stop and continue to move, which is why he's in the middle. Naruto and Hinata may be in question about romance, but again, Hinata got the Shikamaru effect in which she get the bigger focus in this volume, not to mention this most likely will close the whole Hyuuga situation, especially well, Neji is most likely going to get revive and no longer cursed, which can be the best possible ending, even though I don't want Pain 2.0 but what can you do.

Bottom line, one NS moment can just tell this moment a friendship bond alas friendzoned. It's only matter of time for NH to finally be a real possible pairing or a friendship that love can only exist in a fan fiction. Time is ticking.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 27 March 2013 - 06:18 AM.

[FrenchMyToast]

Exactly. That's where we wait and see how everything goes down. Again, Naruto doesn't know what made him like that, but he knows there's a huge pain within him. He probably did hear the reason why, but don't think he knows full details about it. If the parallel gets confirmed, it's all over. You're right about Nagato. Funny that I didn't think about it.

Yeah, you're right about looks can be deceiving. So far, it has been in good favor. It's only matter of time the truth will be unfold and we can see where she came from. Btw I like your sig. I noticed what happens in that sig.

Yeah, Naruto didn't really understand the significance of it being Obito under the mask, other than the fact that it "wasn't Madara." Gai and Kakashi were more shocked that it was their long dead comrade. So this tells us something will happen to Naruto revolving his love that will make or break him. Like what happened with Neji, but 5x harder to overcome, and without anyone to help him out of it. I actually really want a RTN like moment where Sakura defends Naruto, but we'll see.

Oh your sig is great too. I remember that first time I saw it, I was like "I NEED THIS PIC NAO!" I even thought it was just a really nice fan art, but then I learned about RTN.

And still no new chapter. The hell?

[TouKen4Life3g]

Yeah, Naruto didn't really understand the significance of it being Obito under the mask, other than the fact that it "wasn't Madara." Gai and Kakashi were more shocked that it was their long dead comrade. So this tells us something will happen to Naruto revolving his love that will make or break him. Like what happened with Neji, but 5x harder to overcome, and without anyone to help him out of it. I actually really want a RTN like moment where Sakura defends Naruto, but we'll see.

Oh your sig is great too. I remember that first time I saw it, I was like "I NEED THIS PIC NAO!" I even thought it was just a really nice fan art, but then I learned about RTN.

And still no new chapter. The hell?

Well, I don't think Sakura will die but the idea of being targeted can make Naruto to stand up and Obito will start realizing that he's dealing something from the past. Naruto will be much more defensive and this is something that Obito failed to do in his past. Kakashi may tell Obito that Naruto is the same as him as well as Obito will see him that he has someone who he loves like he once had. It does seem that Kishi is gearing up to clear and confirm all the parallel, especially now Minato is alive. Tsunade, if she dies, can say regrets and all and see how her last will is. Nevertheless, we got to focus on the fight first. You know, it feels like a foreshadow when Sakura was ready to block the attack, as in "Not in the movie". I mean once the others arrive, everything just stop. It felt like it could have gone further but perhaps it's a teaser. We just have to wait.

Thank you. Yeah, a lot of people thought the same, but fortunately, that's not the case.

[Branden]

Ever watch 300? Watch as narusaku goes the same way. Hey Kishi still did rtn unlike the other movies, he made it with naruto and sakura, definitely proving the minakush parallel.

In a way that line I hate people who lie to themselves, sakura could be lying to herself about Sasuke, now that's a possibility isn't it?

yeah i did like that this movie was finally a different recipe then the overdone ultimate jutsu princess new rasengan ones.

that said I have to disagree with you on that second part, I'm almost certain Naruto was implying that Sakura still loves Sasuke and that she was lying to herself that she has got over him. In a way Naruto was right, Sakura did still love Sasuke and she was trying to convince herself she didn't. Naruto knew her well enough to tell she was lying to herself

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

yeah i did like that this movie was finally a different recipe then the overdone ultimate jutsu princess new rasengan ones.

that said I have to disagree with you on that second part, I'm almost certain Naruto was implying that Sakura still loves Sasuke and that she was lying to herself that she has got over him. In a way Naruto was right, Sakura did still love Sasuke and she was trying to convince herself she didn't. Naruto knew her well enough to tell she was lying to herself

Actually he said that she was lying to herself because she said that "Sasuke means nothing to me anymore" when it was obvious that despite loving him or not she should had a bond with him like Naruto, his speech was about it nothing to do with Sakura moving on.
This is reason why Naruto was inclined to accept her confession until she said that Sasuke was nothing more to her like she cut off her bond with him.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 27 March 2013 - 10:25 AM.

[六道仙人]

I found out that Kishimoto will launch an oneshot on JumpSQ June issue... Maybe it's for that he take a break the previous week...

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I found out that Kishimoto will launch an oneshot on JumpSQ June issue... Maybe it's for that he take a break the previous week...

About naruto or another story?

[六道仙人]

About naruto or another story?

I dunno... Could be a different story....

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I dunno... Could be a different story....

I thought he was going to give up the mangaka career since he complained that he was getting tired of being a mangaka.

[六道仙人]

I thought he was going to give up the mangaka career since he complained that he was getting tired of being a mangaka.

Well.. it's just a oneshot like that bench 3 years ago.... Besides JumpSQ is monthly issue...

[Inferno180]

For the reason why naruto has uzumaki as a last name it simple, the third hokage gave him kushinas last name because it would protect him from his fathers enemies, if naruto carried the name namakazie, it would have made him a bigger target, the name was for his protection.

Otherwise yeah, I know he was sure that Sakura was lying to herself when she said she was over sasuke, sakura does still love him and is depressed at what he became, but all I'm saying is in a way Sakura could have been lying to herself when it comes to who she really cares for kinda like that interview translation where kishi says she says she loves sasuke but naruto is close to her heart. Only saying this because Sakura does need development to get over sasuke, just not all at once. I mean everyone else here knows that, we can't have Sakura regress in the end basically making things go back to square one, she would be a hard character to like if she could honestly still try to have a good releationship with the guy who tried to kill her twice, not to mention it would is simply have been a rough moment in their relation if that happened, that's jut too insane to honestly believe. Sakura cannot end in square one, she needs to progress otherwise her role in the journey would have been worthless.

Aside from this, there are many many things that could occur, but Neij being free from the curse mark could be something if obito did revive him. Just going to take a lot of good talk no Justu to get naruto through this one.

One reason I like this current flashback arc is because it takes stuff away from the pairing focus which is if anything buried under all the action and drama. Plus we aren't being force feed more hinata this and that. Only focusing on hashirama and madara. It's almost done then we get back to the action. There are a few things we can predict but some stuff like Sakura dying temporairly or Madara coming back to life fully are things we can see happening but have no clue if they actually will, Sakura would not be killed off for good, she is too important, part of narutos luck is resolving problems, he has continually broken cycles, naruto would succeed in reviving Sakura, Kishi just couldn't keep Sakura dead without damage to the story. Sasuke is narutos goal for hokage and Sakura. As for reviving madara, it can happen too, in this case most others will live cause kishi won't have the balls to kill off more people for meaningless reasons, but then this promotes an ultimate final battle with naruto and sasuke facing a revived madara, maybe with the edo hokages? All we can do is predict, but its safe to say, once we get a new change in scenery after the current flashback, we will have a better idea of what's to come.