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#13741 TouKen4Life3g

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Posted 27 January 2014 - 05:40 PM

Agree to disagree. Anyway, I'm off. Take care. Think positive.



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Posted 27 January 2014 - 05:53 PM

Yeah, either in this war or in the final battle or in both. Though, he didn't take a big hit for her, but he already saved her a few times before.

 

I think it will either happen just one more time or will not happen anymore.

 

 

 

Yea I think the days of Naruto saving Sakura is over and now it's the other way around, which would bring NS full circle. 

Besides I think the big Naruto save Sakura/take a hit for her is when he saved her from Sasuke. Took a hit, but even bigger save.'

 

This gets me thinking do you guys think we'll get like an Yamato flashback of Sakura thinking back to his advice like she fills in the blank or maybe he finished telling her some other time and it wasn't shown to us. Either way I think Sakura realizing what Yamato was trying to tell her also brings this whole thing into full circle, cause at this point doesn't look she can do much for him, expect maybe how she feels will change the tide. 



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Posted 27 January 2014 - 05:53 PM

Truth to be told i wouldn't put Sasuke with any girl he's not fit to be with anyone , and just to be clear  i never said that i liked this paring or support this paring i'm indifferent about it i don't care whether it happens or not and yes everyone has their own right of liking a certain paring that's true and no one should argue against that, but the only one i support is NS , and i acknowledge SK as a paring who next to NS has the most probability to become canon whether somebody like this or not there are many facts that indicates to this that are based on their interaction,chemistry in the manga not because i side ship it just so my paring becomes canon that is just stupid (i'm referring this to the user who implied this that all of us are like that ) .  Moving on to my next point.

 

Sasuke's attempts of murder on both Karin and Sakura while they were obstacle in a way one more than the other the context on which those attempts occurred is very much different one was because it was standing of achieving his goal  the other was out of pure pleasure it had no meaning to him what so ever . And no i don't justify Sasuke for what he did back there in no shape what so ever but , again the context and the circumstances of which he did that back there is very much different, the one had an affect on him the other did not , that is a big difference when it comes to his character whether someone likes this or not , i personally do not but i can't dismiss it cus its right there Kishi made it so .

 

You are free to view SK in whatever way you want i'm not judging you for that either , but i can say certainly that their dynamic as an two individual characters who actually interact with each other surpass that of SS by a mile and this's a fact , not to mention that Sasuke has never  put Karin down , by that i mean insult her or diminish her value as person wile with Sakura he did that on a regular basis . His treatment to both Karin and Sakura is very much different cus Karin actually effects Sasuke on some level it just not on the level of Itachi and Naruto . And i have to disagree that he treat her as tool prior to the Kage summit , if he was he wouldn't have told Jugo in the Killer Bee fight to wait just so he can save her and in the process awake the MS power(which we all know what that means for the Uchihas) not to mention his expression wile he was doing that it was very much not  Sasuke if you know what i mean hehe he was desperate to save her that much . All of this is something he has never had with Sakura and this also shows the level of which he holds  the both of them as an individuals , Sakura to him is like mehhhh what ever just someone i used to know . About Karin forgiving Sasuke that easily well what can i say she's bat kitten crazy just like him they fit together , i may don't like them very much especially Sasuke (i dislike his character to the core) or the fact that that scene went the way it did but the both of them are crazy , after all they are meant to be a total opposite of NS something like a "dark couple" it doesn't mean i like it or side ship it for the sake of NS which is pretty stupid thing to do , but it's there and i can't just dismiss it or ignore it so i'm like what ever with this one .       

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I know you never said you like the pairing, I didn't mean to imply that. :sweatdrop:

 

First  and second bolded: I know Sasuke's attempt to kill Karin was portrayed as a 'sacrifice' and used to highlight his descent into darkness, I can acknowledge that, but he still meant to kill her, period. The intent was still there regardless of the circumstances, and the context of killing Karin versus killing Sakura makes little difference to me. And I don't mean to nitpick, but saying "killing Sakura was out of pure pleasure and had no meaning to him," is a contradictory statement. Either he took pleasure in it or it meant nothing to him. I personally lean toward the latter, Sasuke's whole attitude in regards to Sakura during their encounter was pretty indifferent.

 

Third bolded: No, that is an opinion. I don't find the majority of their interaction as particularly standout. Like I said before, Sasuke tolerates her, but little more than that, and I don't see much by way of dynamic or chemistry.

 

Fourth bolded: In the Forest of Death, Sasuke became angry when he woke up and found that Sakura had been hurt and he also tried to protect her from Gaara before Naruto showed up, and (I believe if I remember correctly) told Naruto to save her, so it's not like Sasuke protecting a teammate is exclusive to Karin.

 

Whether Karin is 'crazy' or mentally disturbed doesn't make her behavior less offensive. It makes her look like a joke, and leaves much to be desired in the development of SK as a pairing.



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Posted 27 January 2014 - 05:55 PM

Don't worry it was me I just rethink about it and thought it was best to stop there rather than argue about silly things like this. To each his own opinion isn't it? ^_^


It's cool. :)
 

I see them, everything... XD


in the url, put tumblr.com/tagged/narusaku. If you have the current search engine, it will show everything (narusaku and anti narusaku).
 

You may be paying attention to this manga since its beginnings, that doesn't mean you haven't missed some certain aspects. And I know it for myself as I, no matter how much I think and analyze NS interaction, there's always something more to view, so you never really get to know everything.


If you are convinced you have always something to learn, why are you so stubborn its me that is in the wrong?
 

Yes, I speak of those things because unlike you, no offense, I didn't came here and tried to impose to you that if you do this [ship SK[, than you should to that as well [ship SS]. I am ok with the fact that you don't support SK and I know that no NS fan is required to ship SasuKarin.

But I didn't came and imposed you anything of the sorts you did with us, the ones who support SK. No offense but who are you to tell me how to base my own shipping preferences? Who are you to decide for me? Who are you to impose to me what I should do? You might not be okay with this, the fact that I ship SK and not SS as well, fine by me, but don't come and direct some stuff like these at me,generally speaking, just because it happens that you don't ship SK.

And some of us, just for your knowledge, we're shipping SasuKarin, not side-shipping. It has nothing to do with the fact that I ship NaruSaku. Yes, this is the NaruSaku forum and I might ship SK for my own reasons and I know people won't agree with me. I am not here for people to agree with me either.

But I am neither here for people to tell me what do to with my decisions and how I should base my decisions based on what they think, you know? And no, actually you don't have any right to say that, as long as it's directed at a certain individual/individuals without actually taking into considerations their views on the matters. Your rights/liberty end where the other one's starts, as a matter of fact.

No, you have no right to call me or any other SK shipper hypocritical just because you have that view. Your view is not our view, and our view is not yours.

So this is why I am talking about respecting people's opinions. I respect your opinion that you don't ship SK, it's okay with me, but don't impose to me how I should ship my pairing! Don't call me names just because you happen not to agree with my view! That gives you absolutely no right!

First of all, make sure what hypocrisy stands for, before actually throwing around that idea. Thank you!


I didn't come here to pick a fight with you. You're the one who replied to me first.

Your reply says the same thing over and over again, so I'm just going to repeat what I said before as well. If I have no right to impose that SK sucks then you have no right to impose that SK doesn't suck and that I should shut up about it. This is the NaruSaku forum. SK doesn't and shouldn't have immunity here.

As a final observation: just because I think SK is scum and that anything is better than it, it doesn't mean I ship SS.
 

And this is gonna be the last post I respond to on the matter and the last interaction we'll have on the matter.


Good.
 

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So you're the same user back in SasuKarin thread. Please go and talk about SK hate somewhere else where no NS-SK fans can see.


I'm glad I made an impression. Contrarily to you, I have no clue whatsoever about who you are.

In other words, if you didn't understand. Was that spiteful post really necessary? Are you convinced it's going to change something? You are wrong.

Edited by GoogleIsMyFriend, 27 January 2014 - 05:57 PM.


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 06:04 PM

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So you're the same user back in SasuKarin thread. Please go and talk about SK hate somewhere else where no NS-SK fans can see.

 

 No one is obligated to like SasuKarin here, nor keep silent about it if they don't. This isn't the SasuKarin and NaruSaku forum. Just the latter.
 

 On another note, I haven't made time to properly celebrate with you all in regards to the chapter. It's promising, so let's see where it takes us.



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Posted 27 January 2014 - 06:04 PM

 

I know you never said you like the pairing, I didn't mean to imply that. :sweatdrop:

 

First  and second bolded: I know Sasuke's attempt to kill Karin was portrayed as a 'sacrifice' and used to highlight his descent into darkness, I can acknowledge that, but he still meant to kill her, period. The intent was still there regardless of the circumstances, and the context of killing Karin versus killing Sakura makes little difference to me. And I don't mean to nitpick, but saying "killing Sakura was out of pure pleasure and had no meaning to him," is a contradictory statement. Either he took pleasure in it or it meant nothing to him. I personally lean toward the latter, Sasuke's whole attitude in regards to Sakura during their encounter was pretty indifferent.

 

Third bolded: No, that is an opinion. I don't find the majority of their interaction as particularly standout. Like I said before, Sasuke tolerates her, but little more than that, and I don't see much by way of dynamic or chemistry.

 

Fourth bolded: In the Forest of Death, Sasuke became angry when he woke up and found that Sakura had been hurt and he also tried to protect her from Gaara before Naruto showed up, and (I believe if I remember correctly) told Naruto to save her, so it's not like Sasuke protecting a teammate is exclusive to Karin.

 

Whether Karin is 'crazy' or mentally disturbed doesn't make her behavior less offensive. It makes her look like a joke, and leaves much to be desired in the development of SK as a pairing.

 

Where at the point of whether Sasuke took pleasure from attempting to kill Sakura or that Sasuke lost his mind attempting to kill Karin. Either way, SK & SS would be in the grave because he couldn't care less if he took their lives. SS & SK are different, but not by alot I'll tell you that.

 

And that's exactly how I feel about the bolded.


Edited by luffyq1, 27 January 2014 - 06:10 PM.

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Posted 27 January 2014 - 06:10 PM

I just don't think Sasuke deserves to have a lover after all he's done.  Even though he's "good" now, he still has done so many horrible things.  And just the fact that he never really shows affection for anyone outside of Itachi makes it all the more hard for me to picture him with Karin.  I'll admit, though, he does seem to have a soft spot for her among other people. 

 

But, eh, it's fine either way for me.  Sasuke can get with Temari for all I care. :wink:



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Posted 27 January 2014 - 06:12 PM

I just don't think Sasuke deserves to have a lover after all he's done.  Even though he's "good" now, he still has done so many horrible things.  And just the fact that he never really shows affection for anyone outside of Itachi makes it all the more hard for me to picture him with Karin.  I'll admit, though, he does seem to have a soft spot for her among other people. 

 

But, eh, it's fine either way for me.  Sasuke can get with Temari for all I care. :wink:

 

I Kinda miss Sasuke x Revenge :(


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 06:31 PM

I didn't come here to pick a fight with you. You're the one who replied to me first.

Your reply says the same thing over and over again, so I'm just going to repeat what I said before as well. If I have no right to impose that SK sucks then you have no right to impose that SK doesn't suck and that I should shut up about it. This is the NaruSaku forum. SK doesn't and shouldn't have immunity here.

As a final observation: just because I think SK is scum and that anything is better than it, it doesn't mean I ship SS.

I'm really tempted to defend chatte here. What you said could come of as insulting towards a particular fanbase. You may not have meant it, so I'll try to explain.

Ship what you like, but preferences aren't an excuse to say which one is "better". It rustles my jimmies that people so against SS can tolerate SK. Either the both of them or none.

Here you are saying that people who are anti-SS+pro-SK bothers you. It doesn't matter if you say 'ship what you like' when it is followed by but(as if you're going to say something contradicting that). And you did. "Ship what you like, but don't think SK is any better. Ship what you like, but don't expect me to be OK with it. As if that wasn't enough, you end it by giving people two choices - both or none. That is not for you to judge. :hm:

 

The posts were offensive, disrespectful, and targeted at spesifically one fanbase(instead of the pairing itself). In my opinion, you were the one who picked a fight will all of them. Insulting a large group of people, no wonder one of them replied.

 

There is one more thing you said, which was that it's okay to say "SK sucks" if it's okay to say it doesn't. Don't you see that one of them is bashing and the other is not?

 

psst: What you were saying about SK's immunity here is also wrong. You should read the rules. We've discussed this in the past, only then it was about NH/SS. It was decided that all pairings are welcome here, and SK is not an exception.


Edited by sushi., 27 January 2014 - 06:45 PM.

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Posted 27 January 2014 - 06:37 PM

But, eh, it's fine either way for me.  Sasuke can get with Temari for all I care. :wink:

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Posted 27 January 2014 - 07:07 PM

It seems the latest NaruSaku-SasuKarin chapter has really riled people up in this forum. One thing this place taught me is that opinions are incredibly varied and when one believes in something they tend to stick with it no matter what, which is interesting in it's own way.

 

Apart from that, this is how  see the rest:

- Kiba / Hinata

- Lee / Tenten

- Chouji / Ino

- Shikamaru / Temari

- Shino / A girl in every village

 

NaruSaku-SasuKarin FTW!!!

 

#YOLO :hehehe:



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Posted 27 January 2014 - 07:30 PM

It seems the latest NaruSaku-SasuKarin chapter has really riled people up in this forum. One thing this place taught me is that opinions are incredibly varied and when one believes in something they tend to stick with it no matter what, which is interesting in it's own way.

 

Apart from that, this is how  see the rest:

- Kiba / Hinata

- Lee / Tenten

- Chouji / Food

- Shikamaru / Ino

- Shino / A girl in every village

 

NaruSaku FTW!!!

 

#YOLO :hehehe:

Fixed it.


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 07:33 PM

It seems the latest NaruSaku-SasuKarin chapter has really riled people up in this forum. One thing this place taught me is that opinions are incredibly varied and when one believes in something they tend to stick with it no matter what, which is interesting in it's own way.
 
Apart from that, this is how  see the rest:
- Kiba / Hinata
- Lee / Tenten
- Chouji / Ino
- Shikamaru / Temari
- Shino / A girl in every village
 
NaruSaku-SasuKarin FTW!!!
 
#YOLO :hehehe:


We share the same pairings preferences ;)
( I only care about Narusaku anyway, if the others don't happen I'm cool with it.)
 
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Posted 27 January 2014 - 07:34 PM

Fixed it.

 

It seems the latest NaruSaku-SasuKarin chapter has really riled people up in this forum. One thing this place taught me is that opinions are incredibly varied and when one believes in something they tend to stick with it no matter what, which is interesting in it's own way.

 

Apart from that, this is how  see the rest:

- Kiba / Hinata

- Lee / Tenten

- Chouji / Food / Ino

- Shikamaru / Temari

- Shino / A girl in every village

 

NaruSaku-SasuKarin FTW!!!

 

#YOLO :hehehe:

 

Re-fixed it.

 

 

I Kinda miss Sasuke x Revenge :(

 

Revenge-chan is pretty hot, isn't she?

 

We share the same pairings preferences ;)
( I only care about Narusaku anyway, if the others don't happen I'm cool with it.)

 

So you also ship Shino / A girl in every village?

 

That Shino, he's like the batman of the Narutoverse.


Edited by redragon88, 27 January 2014 - 07:39 PM.


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 07:38 PM

In other words, if you didn't understand. Was that spiteful post really necessary? Are you convinced it's going to change something? You are wrong.

 

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So you're always right then? You're not perfect. I'm not perfect. Others are not perfect. In other words, no one is perfect and that's trufax. If you deny, then I'm asking you why.

 

You're the first one who brought up this mess so please go and talk about this to somewhere else. You're just making your other fellow NS fans feel offended with disrespectfulness of yours.

 

 

 

 No one is obligated to like SasuKarin here, nor keep silent about it if they don't. This isn't the SasuKarin and NaruSaku forum. Just the latter.
 

 On another note, I haven't made time to properly celebrate with you all in regards to the chapter. It's promising, so let's see where it takes us.

 

Of course this isn't NS-SK forum. It's NS alone, however, some of us here ships/supports SK, KH, SH, NH, SS, etc. and would like to bring up these in a discussion that others disagree. To solve this problem, I've suggested the mods to create a subforum for other Naruto pairings, except antis. They even approved.

 

Look here.


Edited by sakutonaru, 27 January 2014 - 07:40 PM.


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 07:38 PM

 

 

Re-fixed it.

 

 

Revenhe-chan is pretty hot, isn't she?

 

Well played.

 

And yes, she's very hot. A woman who can cook ramen and is beautiful? Sounds like Naruto's dream girl.


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 07:41 PM

 

Well played.

 

And yes, she's very hot. A woman who can cook ramen and is beautiful? Sounds like Naruto's dream girl.

 

So...

 

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Posted 27 January 2014 - 07:42 PM

 
So you also ship Shino / A girl in every village?
 
That Shino, he's like the batman of the Narutoverse.


I don't really ship him with someone but Iike the idea -v-
 
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Posted 27 January 2014 - 07:43 PM

Guys kishi only said one, dont get greedy. We all know its NS :)


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 07:44 PM

 

So...

 

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Yep. This is Sakura's only competition.


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