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#13721 Chatte

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Posted 27 January 2014 - 02:28 PM

Ship what you like, but preferences aren't an excuse to say which one is "better". It rustles my jimmies that people so against SS can tolerate SK. Either the both of them or none.

It might rustle your jimmies however, like I said, before being so rusteled, listen to what other people's views are because you might have missed something in the whole story that's totally different, you know? And yes, I go against SS and tolerate SK and no, it's only one, not both! But I have my own reasons to do so. 

And I might have an actual reason to why one is better.

 

Just because in your book it's not better, doesn't mean in my book has to be the same. 

People should learn to accept and respect other's people's views, instead of jumping the gun!

Really, it's getting tiresome with you people bashing the kitten out of SK and telling us, the ones who support it, what to do and how to view things, just because in your eyes it's not ok.


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 02:29 PM

What's up with SasuKarin vs anti-SasuKarin talk? It's getting worse for both NS-SK and NS-ASK fans.

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Posted 27 January 2014 - 02:42 PM

What's up with SasuKarin vs anti-SasuKarin talk? It's getting worse for both NS-SK and NS-ASK fans.

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I don't know but it's really irritating for people to throw on your face stuff like these.

Especially here... I mean, dunno, you don't like it and other people do? Great, let's ignore that and talk what we both like, which is NS in the end. But for some reason, it just can't...

Meh, anyway.

I'm gonna keep all my opinions on Tumblr anyway...


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 02:53 PM

I just found this on tumblr:

"It's up to the character in question to decide whether she forgives Sasuke or not. And while Karin is most likely going to rub it in from time to time to get away with things, sly as she is, it’s obvious that what Sasuke did hasn’t made her love him any less.

And Sasuke at least bothered to apologize, so there’s that, too.

Basically: if the reader doesn’t want to forgive Sasuke for it – which is completely understandable – it’s their right. But this stopped being an argument and became just a matter of personal opinion the moment Kishi returned Karin to Sasuke and had Sasuke apologize for what he did, because it’s easy to see that the stab won’t keep them from becoming canon if Kishi intends them to."

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hundred percent agree for the last part. We dont know yet what Kishi intends to. The last page of 662 was unexpected (I expected the NS, but not for SK, so its a big surprise. Didn't see that coming)
So, I think we need to move on from the SK vs AntiSK topic and keep analyzing what will happen next.

Have any of you read a chinese comic named Impeccable Twins--that I found really similar to Sasuke and Naruto. The heroine (medic n tsundere n has pink-white hair) cried because the death of the blond/silver haired hero, but after the biggest enemy of the story revealed everything, suddenly he opened his eyes (yep, his head on the girls lap that silently cried) and he lived again. He used some pill that makes his heart stopped beating for a little while.

cant help that I've got deja vu lol

what do you think if Sasuke becomes Hokage? Because dunno why, I could see Naruto becomes more than Hokage and he builts the Uzumakigakure again.

Edited by Heaven on Earth, 27 January 2014 - 02:56 PM.


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 03:14 PM

I don't know but it's really irritating for people to throw on your face stuff like these.

Especially here... I mean, dunno, you don't like it and other people do? Great, let's ignore that and talk what we both like, which is NS in the end. But for some reason, it just can't...

Meh, anyway.

I'm gonna keep all my opinions on Tumblr anyway...

Yeah I should say no more.

 

At least until people start being tolerant. I can't believe some people are personally frustrated by others opinion of SK. Eh, it won't bother me if someone here likes SS/NH. :wacko:

 

And saying "SK is not better than SS! Deal with it!"

What a wonderful contribution. It was like a cloud of ignorance was lifted over my mind. I have seen the light. Nah, stop that too.


Edited by sushi., 27 January 2014 - 03:32 PM.

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Posted 27 January 2014 - 03:31 PM

found this edit, she looks great doesn't she


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 03:44 PM

It might rustle your jimmies however, like I said, before being so rusteled, listen to what other people's views are because you might have missed something in the whole story that's totally different, you know? And yes, I go against SS and tolerate SK and no, it's only one, not both! But I have my own reasons to do so. 
And I might have an actual reason to why one is better.

Just because in your book it's not better, doesn't mean in my book has to be the same. 
People should learn to accept and respect other's people's views, instead of jumping the gun!
Really, it's getting tiresome with you people bashing the kitten out of SK and telling us, the ones who support it, what to do and how to view things, just because in your eyes it's not ok.


I did not miss anything and I've read many arguments. Plus, I've been paying attention to this manga since 2006.

You speak of accept and respect of other people's views, but you cannot understand that as much as it tires you to hear SK bashing it tires others to hear SK support? NaruSaku fans are not required to sideship SK.

This is the NaruSaku forum. You might even ship SK for reasons you think are valid, but some will not agree with you. I have the right to say shipping SK and anti-shipping SS is an hypocrisy, as much as you have of saying that it's not.
 

I'm gonna keep all my opinions on Tumblr anyway...


Much appreciated.

EDIT: someone erased that other person's post, so i'll go ahead and erase my answer to it as well.

Edited by GoogleIsMyFriend, 27 January 2014 - 03:51 PM.


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 03:51 PM

I guess it's hate SK day fiesta or dunno.

Anyway, I guess to each their own. Meh...

I know. I just don't like that it's compared to SS and seen the exact same. That's not really true. I see it a different pairing all around. Whether you like it or not, it's up to you. But yeah, I would argue that it's not, but I got to meet my "Sakura" today, so I'll be busy.


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 04:03 PM

I did not miss anything and I've read many arguments. Plus, I've been paying attention to this manga since 2006.

You speak of accept and respect of other people's views, but you cannot understand that as much as it tires you to hear SK bashing it tires others to hear SK support? NaruSaku fans are not required to sideship SK.

This is the NaruSaku forum. You might even ship SK for reasons you think are valid, but some will not agree with you. I have the right to say shipping SK and anti-shipping SS is an hypocrisy, as much as you have of saying that it's not.
 

Much appreciated.

EDIT: someone erased that other person's post, so i'll go ahead and erase my answer to it as well.

Don't worry it was me I just rethink about it and thought it was best to stop there rather than argue about silly things like this. To each his own opinion isn't it? ^_^


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 04:11 PM

When it comes to SK as I said, I really dont mind it or even ship it, I mean its been there but it just well, I've been true neutral to it, I dont really even mind it going here or there no matter how positive or negative it could be, I mean its there but I as said, I dont mind it. Its in the story and has its own moments even in drama like NS, I mean I will say both SS and SK had their darkest times in the land of iron, but at least Sasuke apologized to Kairn, I'll give it that. SS though, yeah I can really say I would prefer SK over SS anyday even though I don't ship it. Not because its simply seperate from NS, rather well, it has a small amount of development and focus, I mean it seems like it has a bit of length comparable to NH (well it should have more considering situations like the Itachi hunt, attempt to capture killer b, the land of iron drama, and now this. Rather i would call it the half focused pairing, unlike SS which has been like a train wreck in my opinion and NH just hardly coming in and with NS getting a lot of attention, I call SK the half focused pairing because like NS it does have its drama but its just not frequent and well, Sasuke just doesnt seem like the character to need love at this point, the only love being that of his brother and clan which has been a driving part of his constant shifting goals, I will say however in the end, as character development should go, for naruto to resolve his goals and sakura developing to likely end with naruto, after naruto succeeds in the final conflict with sasuke fixing all those problems, I will say with sasukes own conflicts resolved in himself and naruto after naruto wins, I do imagine the possibility of sasuke trying wanting to see new things instead of continuing to be a dbag as he has been the whole I mean SK could always be left open ended if Sasuke himself gains a better outlook in the future in the end. Really all I want to see is sasuke apologize to Naruto and Sakura and they accept him obviously because ya know naruto never gave up on him.



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Posted 27 January 2014 - 04:11 PM

I did not miss anything and I've read many arguments. Plus, I've been paying attention to this manga since 2006.

You speak of accept and respect of other people's views, but you cannot understand that as much as it tires you to hear SK bashing it tires others to hear SK support? NaruSaku fans are not required to sideship SK.

This is the NaruSaku forum. You might even ship SK for reasons you think are valid, but some will not agree with you. I have the right to say shipping SK and anti-shipping SS is an hypocrisy, as much as you have of saying that it's not.
 

Much appreciated.

EDIT: someone erased that other person's post, so i'll go ahead and erase my answer to it as well.

 

You may be paying attention to this manga since its beginnings, that doesn't mean you haven't missed some certain aspects. And I know it for myself as I, no matter how much I think and analyze NS interaction, there's always something more to view, so you never really get to know everything.

 

Yes, I speak of those things because unlike you, no offense, I didn't came here and tried to impose to you that if you do this [ship SK[, than you should to that as well [ship SS]. I am ok with the fact that you don't support SK and I know that no NS fan is required to ship SasuKarin.

 

But I didn't came and imposed you anything of the sorts you did with us, the ones who support SK. No offense but who are you to tell me how to base my own shipping preferences? Who are you to decide for me? Who are you to impose to me what I should do? You might not be okay with this, the fact that I ship SK and not SS as well, fine by me, but don't come and direct some stuff like these at me,generally speaking, just because it happens that you don't ship SK.

 

And some of us, just for your knowledge, we're shipping SasuKarin, not side-shipping. It has nothing to do with the fact that I ship NaruSaku. 

Yes, this is the NaruSaku forum and I might ship SK for my own reasons and I know people won't agree with me. I am not here for people to agree with me either.

 

But I am neither here for people to tell me what do to with my decisions and how I should base my decisions based on what they think, you know? And no, actually you don't have any right to say that, as long as it's directed at a certain individual/individuals without actually taking into considerations their views on the matters. Your rights/liberty end where the other one's starts, as a matter of fact.

No, you have no right to call me or any other SK shipper hypocritical just because you have that view. Your view is not our view, and our view is not yours.

 

So this is why I am talking about respecting people's opinions. I respect your opinion that you don't ship SK, it's okay with me, but don't impose to me how I should ship my pairing! Don't call me names just because you happen not to agree with my view! That gives you absolutely no right!

First of all, make sure what hypocrisy stands for, before actually throwing around that idea. Thank you!

 

And this is gonna be the last post I respond to on the matter and the last interaction we'll have on the matter.

Thank you!


Edited by Chatte, 27 January 2014 - 04:20 PM.

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Posted 27 January 2014 - 04:20 PM

geez, I should to remember that I wouldn't enter in tumblr and type the tag narusaku anymore. Even so I will find a lot of annoyting post anti and ruin my day... search engine of tumblr sucks.


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#13733 Chatte

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Posted 27 January 2014 - 04:22 PM

geez, I should to remember that I wouldn't enter in tumblr and type the tag narusaku anymore. Even so I will find a lot of annoyting post anti and ruin my day... search engine of tumblr sucks.

Mobile or web?

 

If it's mobile search #narusaku, not narusaku, simple.

 

If it's for web, it's cool, it doesn't show you any anti posts.


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 04:25 PM

oh so i should post the tag with #, not just "narusaku"? Ok, I got it.

 

anyway, it was for web version, I don't use the mobile version with tumblr.


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 04:26 PM

oh so i should post the tag with #, not just "narusaku"? Ok, I got it.

 

anyway, it was for web version, I don't use the mobile version with tumblr.

Oh, if it was for web hmm, that's strange.

The anti posts shouldn't be visible.


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 04:30 PM

I see them, everything... XD


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 04:30 PM

I know. I just don't like that it's compared to SS and seen the exact same. That's not really true. I see it a different pairing all around. Whether you like it or not, it's up to you. But yeah, I would argue that it's not, but I got to meet my "Sakura" today, so I'll be busy.

Yep it's two different pairings overall, but the problem is that the same reasons people state during anti-SS rants i've seen a lot on it on this site and one of the main arguments is the way Sasuke treated Sakura and the most meaningfull anti stuff is the fact he tried to kill her, but people ship SK and trash SS for those reasons.
Being honest i personally dislike SK and i dont find reason on this ship at all, but i understand why people ship it because of personal preferences and those are respectable.
As an example i like NaruIno more than NaruSaku but i dont try to justify making rants that NaruIno is better than NaruSaku and etc... because it's just my preference.

I would surely say people might like SK and all but i hope they dont try to justify it or trying to twist trying to prove it's better than SS because the way the manga portraited Karin relationship with Sasuke it's worse than SS because she always saved Sasuke when he mostly needed her help(Bee's fight, Deidara and the five kages) and in return when she needed his help he went to finish her off, it's worse than Sasuke grabbing Sakura and trying to cut her throat with her poisoned knife.

People like SS because of the angst of the pairing or because they like the TsunTsun(without being aggresive) guy with a dere girl like many other mangas also does.
Despite the plot and the way it's portraited doesnt justify this ship anymore.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 27 January 2014 - 04:36 PM.

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Posted 27 January 2014 - 04:31 PM

Eeesh. A LOT of anti-stuff going on here for SK. In times like these, I'm glad I'm a neutral fan of that pairing.



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Posted 27 January 2014 - 04:33 PM

I see them, everything... XD

yeah me too


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 04:36 PM

@GoogleIsMyFriend

 

So you're the same user back in SasuKarin thread. Please go and talk about SK hate somewhere else where no NS-SK fans can see.


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