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#13701 luffyq1

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Posted 30 March 2015 - 06:46 PM

 

But, what if it's all Sasuke's revenge? I mean, he is banging the Hokage's first love, and the Hokage is the head of Konoha and one of the leaders of the corrupt system. 

 
So Sasuke got his revenge after all, he gets the hoe, and runs from her lol. He's free and sexually satisfied.

 

the head of konoha is too busy reading nh fanfics on his laptop to be bothered with sasuke and sakura being all lovey dovey. 


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Posted 30 March 2015 - 06:48 PM

the head of konoha is too busy reading nh fanfics on his laptop to be bothered with sasuke and sakura being all lovey dovey. 

He just busy spying sakura from his laptop, since he already has Hinata.

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Posted 30 March 2015 - 06:50 PM

You mean a character who was thought to be killed off in part 2, but is revealed to be alive? Knowing Kishi, I wouldn't be surprised. That is how we got Obito after all

yes yes god yes.

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but please, replace obito with someone better. can't stand him.


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Posted 30 March 2015 - 06:51 PM

Or maybe it's a build up for that.
I think the spin off only last a volume.

 

 

I was thinking the same thing actually because it's only gonna last until Summer so pretty much from April 23 (because of scans) to maybe the second or third week of July that's my guess. Plus given the track record usually there are 4 chapter releases at month. So my guess would be the Naruto Gaiden could potentially last maybe 12-14 chapters which in a sense can last a Volume because I remember Volume 43 was 13 chapters long, and Volume 61 was at least 12 chapters long.   


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Posted 30 March 2015 - 06:55 PM

He just busy spying sakura from his laptop, since he already has Hinata.

true, best of both worlds. and who says he's not happy? naruto is living the dream.


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Posted 30 March 2015 - 06:56 PM

Kushina will be the main villain. You don't throw away Mama's blue scarf and expect to live :hm:
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Posted 30 March 2015 - 06:57 PM

Does anyone agree with what tv tropes said about naruto the last ymmv section and the wallbanger sections?

 

This is the ymmv from the naruto the last

 

  • Strangled by the Red String: The film was made partly to avoid this. The manga gave a proper justification for Hinata falling in love with Naruto. But Naruto falling in love with Hinata wasn't that much explored outside of Ship Tease moments. The film basically fixes Naruto's part of the love equation.
    • While the film was successful in that regard, thanks to Sasuke's Demoted to Extra status, the same couldn't be done for Sasuke and Sakura. Although a few key lines and shots heavily imply that they also had to work things out somewhere down the line before they finally got together. We just haven't seen it...yet.

 

  • On the same note as Base Breaker above: Hinata's Deliberately Distressed Damsel plan. Some see it as reasonable enough action, considering it was her best shot at finding Hanabi. The rescue group had completely run out of leads at that point, after all, and she might have rightfully thought it was the only way. Others think it felt completely forced, specially the fact that Hinata doesn't consider the possibility of telling the others beforehand, and ends up being a contrived way of rising the stakes and creating romantic drama. The fact that this turns Hinata into an almost, if not straight Damsel in Distress in the eyes of many doesn't help one bit.

Broken Base: The whole premise of the movie, which basically brings one of the longest, most intense Shipping Wars in anime history to an end. If you're a shipper, depending on which pair you support this movie is either your wettest dream or your worst nightmare.

  • Other than that, a few people were quite upset that Sasuke was Demoted to Extra in this film. On the flip side, other people were OK with it, since this is supposed to be Naruto and Hinata's love story, and unlike Sakura (who was Naruto's first crush), Sasuke was never part of that particular equation.

 

 

I don't agree with this one Because i critiqued this movie as a retcon so naruhina dosen't exactly avert the first love cilche.

 

I made an argument a while back but i can't seem to find it i know tricksie liked it. :happy:


Edited by rikakim94, 30 March 2015 - 07:23 PM.


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Posted 30 March 2015 - 07:01 PM

This is the same place where they made up some excuse for the pairing in which the movie said otherwise, including Naruto and Sakura conversation. So no, I don't agree lies.

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Posted 30 March 2015 - 07:09 PM

 

Does anyone agree with what tv tropes said about naruto the last ymmv section and the wallbanger sections.

 

This is the ymmv from the naruto the last

 

  • Strangled by the Red String: The film was made partly to avoid this. The manga gave a proper justification for Hinata falling in love with Naruto. But Naruto falling in love with Hinata wasn't that much explored outside of Ship Tease moments. The film basically fixes Naruto's part of the love equation.
    • While the film was successful in that regard, thanks to Sasuke's Demoted to Extra status, the same couldn't be done for Sasuke and Sakura. Although a few key lines and shots heavily imply that they also had to work things out somewhere down the line before they finally got together. We just haven't seen it...yet.

 

 

The movie doesn't help because not only invalidates NH development from Naruto's side in the manga but it also makes Naruto fall in love with Hinata through a plot genjutsu, which is pathetic, so no it wasn't successful. It failed in making NH believable

 

SS has no way to be fixed up, it will be forever a poor  and badly done pairing, its horrible development is forever etched in the manga panels 

 

 

 

 
On the same note as Base Breaker above: Hinata's Deliberately Distressed Damsel plan. Some see it as reasonable enough action, considering it was her best shot at finding Hanabi. The rescue group had completely run out of leads at that point, after all, and she might have rightfully thought it was the only way. Others think it felt completely forced, specially the fact that Hinata doesn't consider the possibility of telling the others beforehand, and ends up being a contrived way of rising the stakes and creating romantic drama. The fact that this turns Hinata into an almost, if not straight Damsel in Distress in the eyes of many doesn't help one bit.

 

 I agree that it was forced and a contrived way to make romantic drama

 

 

 

Broken Base: The whole premise of the movie, which basically brings one of the longest, most intense Shipping Wars in anime history to an end. If you're a shipper, depending on which pair you support this movie is either your wettest dream or your worst nightmare.

  • Other than that, a few people were quite upset that Sasuke was Demoted to Extra in this film. On the flip side, other people were OK with it, since this is supposed to be Naruto and Hinata's love story, and unlike Sakura (who was Naruto's first crush), Sasuke was never part of that particular equation.

 

 

 

They forgot to say the movie turned some of the characters OOC for the sake of romance, perpetuated a corrupted plot point and estabilished retcons and asspulls to the canon manga

So it's safe to say that not any TRUE Naruto fan was happy with the movie


Edited by Nar123, 30 March 2015 - 07:11 PM.

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Posted 30 March 2015 - 07:11 PM

 
 
I was thinking the same thing actually because it's only gonna last until Summer so pretty much from April 23 (because of scans) to maybe the second or third week of July that's my guess. Plus given the track record usually there are 4 chapter releases at month. So my guess would be the Naruto Gaiden could potentially last maybe 12-14 chapters which in a sense can last a Volume because I remember Volume 43 was 13 chapters long, and Volume 61 was at least 12 chapters long.   

If it successful, then burito will gain serialization.

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Posted 30 March 2015 - 07:16 PM

If it successful, then burito will gain serialization.

the spinoff will do good.


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Posted 30 March 2015 - 07:18 PM

If it successful, then burito will gain serialization.

 

Kishi already didn't care for Naruto anymore by the ending so I doubt he is going to want a serialization unless he turns out not to be the one actaully doing it


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Posted 30 March 2015 - 07:19 PM

the spinoff will do good.

 

It will do probably because it will be first sold in WSJ

 

We must see how much the separate volume will do though


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Posted 30 March 2015 - 07:24 PM

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Posted 30 March 2015 - 07:25 PM

Does anyone agree with what tv tropes said about naruto the last ymmv section and the wallbanger sections?
 
This is the ymmv from the naruto the last
 

  • Strangled by the Red String: The film was made partly to avoid this. The manga gave a proper justification for Hinata falling in love with Naruto. But Naruto falling in love with Hinata wasn't that much explored outside of Ship Tease moments. The film basically fixes Naruto's part of the love equation.
  • While the film was successful in that regard, thanks to Sasuke's Demoted to Extra status, the same couldn't be done for Sasuke and Sakura. Although a few key lines and shots heavily imply that they also had to work things out somewhere down the line before they finally got together. We just haven't seen it...yet.
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  • On the same note as Base Breaker above: Hinata's Deliberately Distressed Damsel plan. Some see it as reasonable enough action, considering it was her best shot at finding Hanabi. The rescue group had completely run out of leads at that point, after all, and she might have rightfully thought it was the only way. Others think it felt completely forced, specially the fact that Hinata doesn't consider the possibility of telling the others beforehand, and ends up being a contrived way of rising the stakes and creating romantic drama. The fact that this turns Hinata into an almost, if not straight Damsel in Distress in the eyes of many doesn't help one bit.
Broken Base: The whole premise of the movie, which basically brings one of the longest, most intense [/size]Shipping Wars in anime history to an end. If you're a shipper, depending on which pair you support this movie is either your wettest dream or your worst nightmare.[/size]
  • Other than that, a few people were quite upset that Sasuke was Demoted to Extra in this film. On the flip side, other people were OK with it, since this is supposed to be Naruto and Hinata's love story, and unlike Sakura (who was Naruto's first crush), Sasuke was never part of that particular equation.
 
 
I don't agree with this one Because i critiqued this movie as a retcon so naruhina dosen't exactly avert the first love cilche.
 
I made an argument a while back but i can't seem to find it but i know tricksie like it?  :happy:


And they are forgetting that the reason why TL surpassed RTN is because of the false advertisement and non refundable pre order tickets. And just take a look at the west, TL is not doing well on foriegn soil. So these critics are nothing but NH fantards.

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Posted 30 March 2015 - 07:29 PM

 

she isn't "bad"

 

Her main problems have to do with:

- her horrible fanbase that makes her a glorified character

-the fact she became a pairing fodder ( but then again so did the others)

-the fact she helped ruining one of the stories main themes

- the Flanderization of her character during part 2

 

I don't see how she ruined the stories theme. I agree most people hate Hinata cause of her fanbase.

You're right. She's just plain, so I can't really say anything critique about her. I'm not joking, that's how I always see her. I was defending her so bad here but then, her character was really what it is. I just don't get it.

She had potential but like the rest of the Konoha 11 Kishi didn't care......


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Posted 30 March 2015 - 07:30 PM

 
I don't see how she ruined the stories theme. I agree most people hate Hinata cause of her fanbase.
She had potentail but like the rest of the Konoha 11 Kishi didn't care......

Because Kishi never plan this until Chunnin Exam exist by his editor.

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Posted 30 March 2015 - 07:36 PM

I don't see how she ruined the stories theme. I agree most people hate Hinata cause of her fanbase.

Someone who didn't succed in anything in the end got all handed to her on a silver plate.



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Posted 30 March 2015 - 07:43 PM

And they are forgetting that the reason why TL surpassed RTN is because of the false advertisement and non refundable pre order tickets. And just take a look at the west, TL is not doing well on foriegn soil. So these critics are nothing but NH fantards.

 

or Maybe they aren't aware of that info?

 

I mean im surprised that they didn't read the kobayashi interview and put kishi in the "death of author" trope.



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Posted 30 March 2015 - 07:52 PM

Someone who didn't succed in anything in the end got all handed to her on a silver plate.

If your talking about the Hard Work theme that got ruined LONG ago.


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