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Posted 26 January 2014 - 03:50 PM

 

So even though he attempted to end her life once makes it ok? Being mistreated once makes it ok? All of that is why I describe their relationship as the wife who puts up with the absuive husband. Karin is just a means to an end, which was highlighted during his fight with Danzo. The apology was pathetic, but Karin accepting such a pathetic apology was just down right laughable.

Stop putting words in my mouth. You used Sasuke's murder attempt to describe his relationship with Karin, that is what I disagreed with. You were completelydisregarding their bond and interactions pre murder attempt just to put on the label "abusive husband", ignoring everything else because of it.  I did not say, nor indicate that I was okay with what he tried to do.


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Posted 26 January 2014 - 03:54 PM

I'm like the only one that don't even use the murder attempt to make the pairing look bad. I always go by the chemistry.

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Posted 26 January 2014 - 03:58 PM

Well, it does involve them, but nonetheless, Team 7. Speaking of NS, what is your thought on the current situation? Truly sparks the world of joy...and fear.

Well I guess it's safe to say that neither Naruto nor Sakure will die. At least permanently. If something, right now is the perfect chance for Kishi to make Sakura realize how she truly feels about Naruto. I really hope he won't blow it.

One thing that still bothers me is that every time there's a NS moment/interaction we always get NH/SS right after it.. just like it happened with Hinata in 662. But I guess it's just Kishi trying to keep NH/SS relevant. Just gotta wait until NS is confirmed.



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Posted 26 January 2014 - 04:04 PM

Well I guess it's safe to say that neither Naruto nor Sakure will die. At least permanently. If something, right now is the perfect chance for Kishi to make Sakura realize how she truly feels about Naruto. I really hope he won't blow it.
One thing that still bothers me is that every time there's a NS moment/interaction we always get NH/SS right after it.. just like it happened with Hinata in 662. But I guess it's just Kishi trying to keep NH/SS relevant. Just gotta wait until NS is confirmed.

Funny, I see it reverse. Anyway, I mentioned that this chapter has logic/reason explanation in order to understand why it went that way as well as secure it. Take Hinata for example. She confirmed us that Naruto is in fact dying, not just knocked out, so it also confirmed that Kushina was going to die regardless of anything. Lastly, her last words not only confirmed that she is done, but it goes back to the whole 615 fiasco, established a link to the Hyuuga development that Neji and Hinata had with Naruto. So yeah, downplaying more and more. That said if there's any NS or SK before your so called SS can even happen, it's extremely too late. In fact, you can't even take it serious anymore. It only makes you think otherwise, rather than pairing. Team 7 at most. So yeah, there must be a reason why we are having a focus on Team 7 AND Team Taka.

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Posted 26 January 2014 - 04:15 PM

Funny, I see it reverse. Anyway, I mentioned that this chapter has logic/reason explanation in order to understand why it went that way as well as secure it. Take Hinata for example. She confirmed us that Naruto is in fact dying, not just knocked out, so it also confirmed that Kushina was going to die regardless of anything. Lastly, her last words not only confirmed that she is done, but it goes back to the whole 615 fiasco, established a link to the Hyuuga development that Neji and Hinata had with Naruto. So yeah, downplaying more and more. That said if there's any NS or SK before your so called SS can even happen, it's extremely too late. In fact, you can't even take it serious anymore. It only makes you think otherwise, rather than pairing. Team 7 at most. So yeah, there must be a reason why we are having a focus on Team 7 AND Team Taka.

Kishi's writing is quite unexpected, that's why there's still a chance to see some more NH/SS moments/interactions. Like, we might see Neji talking to Naruto in the afterlife saying he can't die because Hinata loves/needs him. :smug:

But, jokes aside, we should at least get a NH/SS closure moments. Like, Hinata finally letting go of Naruto.. Sakura realizing that her crush on Sakuse isn't going anywhere (not like she hasn't already, but I want a proper resolution), etc.
 

I'm also quite interested in her reaction to finding out that Sasuke is also dying.


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Posted 26 January 2014 - 04:19 PM

Makes  wonder How Minato would leave Naruto in Kushina's care either she was going to die.


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Posted 26 January 2014 - 04:30 PM

Even if SK should happen with NS, it really woundnt matter to me either way, if anything I'd really see NS as the one end pairing but SK could at least have some potential open ended future at best. I mean for the sake of what Sasuke has done, its evident he wouldn't go loving anyone quickly unless it was some open ended future possibility at the end of the series but in all cases, its still NS as the high possibility end one with sakura forgiving sasuke and going just back to friends as I can see it.



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Posted 26 January 2014 - 04:31 PM

Kishi's writing is quite unexpected, that's why there's still a chance to see some more NH/SS moments/interactions. Like, we might see Neji talking to Naruto in the afterlife saying he can't die because Hinata loves/needs him. :smug:

But, jokes aside, we should at least get a NH/SS closure moments. Like, Hinata finally letting go of Naruto.. Sakura realizing that her crush on Sakuse isn't going anywhere (not like she hasn't already, but I want a proper resolution), etc.
 
I'm also quite interested in her reaction to finding out that Sasuke is also dying.

Maybe, but for Hinata is somewhat lowered chance than Sakura coming to that conclusion.

As for her finding out, well, it is possible that Kishi would play a card of not knowing because that's not her role card. It's not a bad thing, it only falls down to what if realm. If she doesn't find out, then that's not her role. That would also mean NS is the reason for it, but time will tell. I mean the last interaction with concerning with Sasuke was in 635 and that was negative. So, we will soon know if it's really made for pairings or Team 7. Soon we'll know.

Makes  wonder How Minato would leave Naruto in Kushina's care either she was going to die.

Minato knew she was going to die, but it's just reality time was coming and the farewell came too soon. That's why he had that anger face and left Kushina to take care of Naruto one last time.

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Posted 26 January 2014 - 04:41 PM

Stop putting words in my mouth. You used Sasuke's murder attempt to describe his relationship with Karin, that is what I disagreed with. You were completelydisregarding their bond and interactions pre murder attempt just to put on the label "abusive husband", ignoring everything else because of it.  I did not say, nor indicate that I was okay with what he tried to do.

 

I wasn't disregarding their bond pre murder attempt because the bond wasn't anything special like people are making it out to be. Sasuke has stronger bonds with Itachi & Naruto than with Karin, and you expect me to elaborate on a bond that is less significant than those two? Lol sure.


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Posted 26 January 2014 - 04:44 PM

Maybe, but for Hinata is somewhat lowered chance than Sakura coming to that conclusion.

As for her finding out, well, it is possible that Kishi would play a card of not knowing because that's not her role card. It's not a bad thing, it only falls down to what if realm. If she doesn't find out, then that's not her role. That would also mean NS is the reason for it, but time will tell. I mean the last interaction with concerning with Sasuke was in 635 and that was negative. So, we will soon know if it's really made for pairings or Team 7. Soon we'll know.

I just really hope Hinata will finally realize that Naruto has always seen her as a comrade/friend, nothing more. She has to let him go.... and she has to do it herself, without Naruto saying "hehe, I'm sorry..."; but to do this she needs some kind of push.. like you know, seeing 100% romantic NS interaction.. or whatever will make her let go.

Well Sasuke is still her friend/teammate, so it's only natural that she'd worry about him. I wanna get some sort of comparison of her reactions on Naruto and Sasuke dying.



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Posted 26 January 2014 - 04:47 PM

Kishi's writing is quite unexpected, that's why there's still a chance to see some more NH/SS moments/interactions. Like, we might see Neji talking to Naruto in the afterlife saying he can't die because Hinata loves/needs him. :smug:

But, jokes aside, we should at least get a NH/SS closure moments. Like, Hinata finally letting go of Naruto.. Sakura realizing that her crush on Sakuse isn't going anywhere (not like she hasn't already, but I want a proper resolution), etc.
 

I'm also quite interested in her reaction to finding out that Sasuke is also dying.

For some reason, I want to say she'll just nudge it off when she hears about Sasuke. I mean, sure she'll be a little concerned, but with Naruto's current condition I don't think Sasuke will be at the top of her worries. 

 

Also, in my own beliefs, I think Sakura will make her decision during the Naruto and Sasuke fight. She has to be there. I'm expecting Sasuke to do something that nearly kills Naruto on the spot, which makes her angry and she attacks him.

 

As for Hinata...I dunno what to expect. Either she and Sakura will have to talk about the situation, or she'll hide in the background while Naruto makes his move or vise-versa. Or she walks into the tent Naruto and Sakura are in while they're making out  :hehehe:  :th_yeah:



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Posted 26 January 2014 - 04:48 PM

I'm like the only one that don't even use the murder attempt to make the pairing look bad. I always go by the chemistry.

Well i think when it comes to the murder attempts its not just the fact that he did it but way he did it . With Sakura it was totally cold blooded , no remorse no reaction to her none whatsoever , its like she didn't even exist to him lol . Now with Karin he didn't have choice he was forced but that's still not an excuse , but at least he remembered who she was he remembered the first time he saw her and the words he told her at same time when Karin was flash backing to that scene . Only that should tell you about the difference between Karin and Sakura when it comes to Sasuke it speaks volumes for itself . And even though i don't like relationships like this at least with SK i can acknowledge that there is some kind of chemistry between them . With SS you don't have even this which is pathetic , you just have Sasuke doesn't give a F for Sakura he didn't even remember her as person , as some one who was maybe at one time close to him as friend and as a team member he didn't even remember this much about her , so what does all of this tell you about their "relationship" , nothing because there wasn't anything between them even to begin with , which is pathetic even to see how this paring is still standing on its feats, it doesn't make any sense , but oh well that's fan-girls  for you :zaru: .       


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Posted 26 January 2014 - 04:51 PM

I just really hope Hinata will finally realize that Naruto has always seen her as a comrade/friend, nothing more. She has to let him go.... and she has to do it herself, without Naruto saying "hehe, I'm sorry..."; but to do this she needs some kind of push.. like you know, seeing 100% romantic NS interaction.. or whatever will make her let go.

Well Sasuke is still her friend/teammate, so it's only natural that she'd worry about him. I wanna get some sort of comparison of her reactions on Naruto and Sasuke dying.

I know, but if she doesn't find out before Sasuke get back up, then it only means this whole thing is in fact about pairings, which actually would shock me. That's what I mean. The funny thing is that Team Taka just now at the end finds out that Sasuke is going to die, so it's possible that we will get more of Team Taka in the next chapter since they have the upper hand with Zetsu not knowing they're there. They have to either escape or defeat Zetsu quickly to save Sasuke. So again, if Sakura doesn't know, then this is all for pairings.

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Posted 26 January 2014 - 04:59 PM

For some reason, I want to say she'll just nudge it off when she hears about Sasuke. I mean, sure she'll be a little concerned, but with Naruto's current condition I don't think Sasuke will be at the top of her worries. 

 

Also, in my own beliefs, I think Sakura will make her decision during the Naruto and Sasuke fight. She has to be there. I'm expecting Sasuke to do something that nearly kills Naruto on the spot, which makes her angry and she attacks him.

 

As for Hinata...I dunno what to expect. Either she and Sakura will have to talk about the situation, or she'll hide in the background while Naruto makes his move or vise-versa. Or she walks into the tent Naruto and Sakura are in while they're making out  :hehehe:  :th_yeah:

If Naruto and Sasuke will actually die, them dying during their foreshadowed battle will get kinda old.
-"If we battle next time we'll die."

-"We did die not so long ago."
-"So.. we won't have a fight?"

-"It's not worth it, dude".

I just thought about it.. imagine Hinata, a middle-aged woman still not over Naruto, who's now a father and a husband. :twitch:
Kishi, you have to put an end to this!

I know, but if she doesn't find out before Sasuke get back up, then it only means this whole thing is in fact about pairings, which actually would shock me. That's what I mean. The funny thing is that Team Taka just now at the end finds out that Sasuke is going to die, so it's possible that we will get more of Team Taka in the next chapter since they have the upper hand with Zetsu not knowing they're there. They have to either escape or defeat Zetsu quickly to save Sasuke. So again, if Sakura doesn't know, then this is all for pairings.

Like I said, I'm only interested in her reaction, that's all. If Kishi decides she doesn't need to know, well.. i'm cool with it. :)



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Posted 26 January 2014 - 05:09 PM

If Naruto and Sasuke will actually die, them dying during their foreshadowed battle will get kinda old.
-"If we battle next time we'll die."

-"We did die not so long ago."
-"So.. we won't have a fight?"

-"It's not worth it, dude".

I just thought about it.. imagine Hinata, a middle-aged woman still not over Naruto, who's now a father and a husband. :twitch:
Kishi, you have to put an end to this!

Like I said, I'm only interested in her reaction, that's all. If Kishi decides she doesn't need to know, well.. i'm cool with it. :)

No, Naruto and Sakura's kids find her house and they find pictures of Naruto all over the walls. Creepy....



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Posted 26 January 2014 - 05:14 PM

Even if SK should happen with NS, it really woundnt matter to me either way, if anything I'd really see NS as the one end pairing but SK could at least have some potential open ended future at best. I mean for the sake of what Sasuke has done, its evident he wouldn't go loving anyone quickly unless it was some open ended future possibility at the end of the series but in all cases, its still NS as the high possibility end one with sakura forgiving sasuke and going just back to friends as I can see it.

 

I think SK has bad development in terms of people who actually give this couple a legit shot, it falls 2nd behind NH of course. Now with that being said I'll have to agree with everyhting you've said.


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Posted 26 January 2014 - 05:14 PM

 

No, Naruto and Sakura's kids find her house and they find pictures of Naruto all over the walls. Creepy....

 

^^^ LOL you guys are killing me here stop it please  :lmao:  :lmao:  :lmao:(by that i mean continue as you were)  :party:  :lmao:  


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Posted 26 January 2014 - 05:22 PM

If Kishi wants to make a movie that takes place after the series ended, he should make Hinata into a villain. It will be one of those twists that many would like to do: use a good person to be the villain for the movie.

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Posted 26 January 2014 - 05:23 PM

 

 
 

^^^ LOL you guys are killing me here stop it please  :lmao:  :lmao:  :lmao:(by that i mean continue as you were)  :party:  :lmao:  

 

Naruto's kid: Daddy, there's something in the basement.

 

Sakura: Oh, there is not! *glares at Naruto* Have you been watching horror films again?!

 

Naruto: Uh...no! Haha! What would give you that idea?!

 

Sakura: Uh-huh, sure.

 

*loud crash from the basement* 

 

Naruto: What was that?

 

Naruto's kid: IT'S THE THING IN THE BASEMENT! *Runs upstairs and hides under the bed*

 

*Naruto and Sakura look at each other and then descend the stairs*

 

*Hinata pops out of corner* Naruto-Kun

 

Sakura and Naruto: AAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!! *charge back upstairs, grab their kid, and leave the hidden leaf village*

 

And THAT is how Naruto ends everybody!



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Posted 26 January 2014 - 05:24 PM

If Kishi wants to make a movie that takes place after the series ended, he should make Hinata into a villain. It will be one of those twists that many would like to do: use a good person to be the villain for the movie.

But we've already seen kitteny!Hinata... it just doesn't suit her.






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