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#13601 redragon88

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 03:39 AM

What is it in the sentence that makes it different from how he talks to Sakura? And also, who's to say Naruto doesn't change the way he speaks to her should they establish a relationship (don't think he would, just a thought)?

 

I don't know japanese, ask the people who do. They'll just tell you the same. Send 六道仙人 a PM if you want.

 

It could be."Sakura-chan, I've got something important to tell you, wait for me." as some of us pointed out.

 

That's not how it goes. Naruto uses a term that addresses his normal peers. I think it "omae" or something like that.

 

It's not Sakura, and nobody should think otherwise. Like I said, just ask anyone here that actually knows japanese. I can't help you with that.


Edited by redragon88, 22 October 2014 - 03:42 AM.


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Posted 22 October 2014 - 03:47 AM

It could be."Sakura-chan, I've got something important to tell you, wait for me." as some of us pointed out.

i just gotta say your sig creeps me out.

 

ot: that was my initial thought when i heard that too. but it's possible it could be addressed to someone else.


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#13603 Zodd

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 03:47 AM

I believe it's the "omae" in the sentence. Omae is often considered disrespectful if used.

 

Note that omae does not have really any REAL word usage. It's sort of an anime/manga thing.  Using it in the Japan will probably result in you being considered very rude, or not being taken seriously as all.  An English example is if some one said "I will ANNIHILATE you".  Sure, they may sound like some villain in cartoons back during the 80s, but honestly you would not take them very seriously or perhaps find their odd threat as offensive or maybe even confusing.


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Posted 22 October 2014 - 03:47 AM

The "Something to tell you" line that Naruto says in "The Last" is not directed towards Sakura. This was already established weeks ago by the japanese translators.
 
The way Naruto addresses Sakura is different in japanese than the way he speaks in that sentence. In that sentence he's just speaking to a normal peer. It could be Sasuke or anyone else of the rookies, but it's definitely not Sakura.

surely It ain't Sakura-chan
That is a thing of negativity in me

Edited by Princess Iris, 22 October 2014 - 03:50 AM.


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Posted 22 October 2014 - 03:48 AM

What is it in the sentence that makes it different from how he talks to Sakura? And also, who's to say Naruto doesn't change the way he speaks to her should they establish a relationship (don't think he would, just a thought)?

I'll explain to you. 

In fact, when Naruto talks to Sakura in japanese, he doesn't use any pronoun to say "you" he just calls her Sakura-chan when he's adressing directly to her. For example, during the promise of a life time, when we translated it as "Sakura-chan, you really like Sasuke huh." He was in fact saying サクラちゃんはサスケを本当に好きなんだろう。(sorry I don't remember the sentence exactly, but it's just to explain the thing) Well here, he's in fact saying "Sakura really likes Sasuke" but since it would be weird for us to see that while he's directly talking to her, we add a "you", but in japanese he doesn't use any "you" towards Sakura. 

And as another example, there is the recent episode in the anime: その花を守るサクラちゃんを俺は守る。Litterally, "I'll protect the Sakura-chan who's protecting this flower" But in fact it's "I'll protect you, while you're protecting this flower."

While in that sentence he uses the pronoun お前 "omae" to say you, which is the pronoun he uses for all his peers. So it can't be Sakura. 


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Posted 22 October 2014 - 03:51 AM

wait wait...Naruto leaves the village again?


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Posted 22 October 2014 - 03:53 AM

wait wait...Naruto leaves the village again?

just speculation.


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#13608 redragon88

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 03:56 AM

I'll explain to you. 

In fact, when Naruto talks to Sakura in japanese, he doesn't use any pronoun to say "you" he just calls her Sakura-chan when he's adressing directly to her. 

While in that sentence he uses the pronoun お前 "omae" to say you, which is the pronoun he uses for all his peers. So it can't be Sakura. 

 

You know, just the fact that Naruto has a special cute way to address and talk to Sakura makes it even more hard to believe storywise that he would just stop loving her and go for Hinata.

 

Are we supposed to expect that Naruto starts saying "Hey, it's great to see Hinata-chan around here", or something like that?

 

That would be so freaking weird. :argh:



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Posted 22 October 2014 - 03:57 AM

wait wait...Naruto leaves the village again?


Maybe in the middle of war he tells everyone to stay & wait for him

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 04:03 AM

I actually hope he does leave the village because that eliminates the possibility of Kishi doing off screen development in the time skip which NH is hoping for AKA an asspull

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 04:03 AM

 
You know, just the fact that Naruto has a special cute way to address and talk to Sakura makes it even more hard to believe storywise that he would just stop loving her and go for Hinata.
 
Are we supposed to expect that Naruto starts saying "Hey, it's great to see Hinata-chan around here", or something like that?
 
That would be so freaking weird. :argh:

LOL. That would be weird. like. EW.

hmm, idk why people think it's unlikely that naruto would leave the village again. I'm not saying it will happen, but it is a probability.

Anyways, gotta say... I hate/love tumblr. Right now, I'm on the hate. People calling Sakura trash/useless & putting it on pairing tags. I LOL at the fact they had to write down on why they hate the character so much in a whole bible verse! 💁 it just means you care WAY too much about them. lol just sayin.

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#13612 咲耶姫

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 04:05 AM

 

You know, just the fact that Naruto has a special cute way to address and talk to Sakura makes it even more hard to believe storywise that he would just stop loving her and go for Hinata.

 

Are we supposed to expect that Naruto starts saying "Hey, it's great to see Hinata-chan around here", or something like that?

 

That would be so freaking weird. :argh:

Agree completely. His way of saying -chan to Sakura is obviously not in a friendly way, it's because he likes her. 

But I don't think he would call Hinata with -chan if he had to date her, I think he would still call her the same. But I get what you're saying, just imagining him saying that seems like we're in a parallel world. After all, it was even made as a joke in Rocke Lee spin-off. 


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#13613 Princess Iris

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 04:07 AM

Well Is it just me or there is anyome who thinks Naruto is adressing Sasuke?

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 04:11 AM

I actually hope he does leave the village because that eliminates the possibility of Kishi doing off screen development in the time skip which NH is hoping for AKA an asspull

If naruto truly love sakura, he will not develop any romantic feeling to Hinata.

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 04:13 AM

The rock lee SD is so funny lool. Poor Hinata she always suffering in that series. Neji too :cry:
 
 
Yeah, I think so too. Though that kind of implies Sasuke got away... kitten.

Actually, Sasuke's words imply he isn't goin with Naruto but protecting someone


so it is possible



and I'm sure Naruto will still ship SS :hm: :hehehe:


@ rocci unless & until he doesn't leave her to Sasuke

Edited by Princess Iris, 22 October 2014 - 04:15 AM.


#13616 redragon88

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 04:24 AM

Agree completely. His way of saying -chan to Sakura is obviously not in a friendly way, it's because he likes her. 

But I don't think he would call Hinata with -chan if he had to date her, I think he would still call her the same. But I get what you're saying, just imagining him saying that seems like we're in a parallel world. After all, it was even made as a joke in Rocke Lee spin-off. 

 

Yeah, and not only that, also the fact that Naruto addresses Sakura as "Sakura-chan" instead of "you" when talking to her, like you explained. I'm guessing he also does that because he likes her, doesn't he?

 

I also don't think Naruto would ever call Hinata with -chan, but it sure as heck would be bizarre that he's addressing one girl (Sakura) with -chan and yet chooses to date another. At least that's the way I see it.



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Posted 22 October 2014 - 04:29 AM

Yeah... his feelings didn't change during those 2 1/2 years he was gone from his last trip, so why now? :wot:


actually i have doubt if he'll

if he leaves Sakura to Sasuke


but if he does so he'll be the biggest fool since Sasuke isn't interested in her


and ....It is highly unlikely for Sasuke to have feelings for Sakura secretely ...so I'm confused if NH were to happen how the hell it will ... :wot:

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 04:30 AM

We already discussed this in this thread. Here's the page if anyone wants to read through what people said regarding the translations of those quotes. http://www.narusaku....=13039&page=283

 

 

You know what's funny? In a lot of NH fanarts and fanfics, they make it so Naruto calls his love "Hinata-chan" but in reality "Sakura-chan" LOL :lmao:  

they also act like the suffix "kun" is romantic *looks at all the non romantic relationships in anime where guys and girls call guys "kun" *  :facepalm: they also think "ba-chan" and "chan" are the same thing  :pinch:  fandoms are too crazy, I will never get involved in them again....


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Posted 22 October 2014 - 04:42 AM

 

Yeah, and not only that, also the fact that Naruto addresses Sakura as "Sakura-chan" instead of "you" when talking to her, like you explained. I'm guessing he also does that because he likes her, doesn't he?

 

I also don't think Naruto would ever call Hinata with -chan, but it sure as heck would be bizarre that he's addressing one girl (Sakura) with -chan and yet chooses to date another. At least that's the way I see it.

I don't know, it's quiete usual to see that in japanese, I mean calling someone by his name instead of "you", but the fact that Naruto does it all the time with Sakura is weird, so I suppose that yeah, it may be related to his feelings for her. Though I'm not sure. 
 
And yeah, I was about to say the same thing, if Naruto had to date another girl, rather it's Hinata or any other girl, he would have to stop calling Sakura Sakura-chan, which would be soooo weird and disturbing for the reader. I mean after spending a whole series composed of 700 chapters in which he always called her in a specific way, seeing him calling his main female character in another way would be too weird. And seeing Naruto dating a girl while calling Sakura with -chan would be even more weird to me. It's not like Sakura and Hinata with their -kun, -kun is a different case. It can be platonic (it is in fact in Hinata's case since she uses it with every boys), while -chan can't be platonic in Naruto's case. 

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 04:44 AM

i just gotta say your sig creeps me out.
 
ot: that was my initial thought when i heard that too. but it's possible it could be addressed to someone else.

haha. I'm too tired to find a Sakura pic that actually fits in the signature size. Our internet doesn't help at all too. I'll change it for you if that really creeps you out. :)

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