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[Insurrection]

There is only one other thing I'd like someone to clarify for me. HOW AND WHY THE kitten ARE NARUHINA AND SASUSAKU SO POPULAR!?

In the West.

NaruHina is not a popular pairing in the home islands. Here it is because people are fickle, stereotypical shy girl who follows the main character around and draws a vocal fanbase because of external factors, such as fillers and fans. SasuSaku, eh it seemed tangable, until you know they try to start killing each other only recently, SasuSaku is still strange to me though, something about tragic romances or somethin....is what I get out of it. Soupy stated some of the reasons for it but I can't see a huge possibility. Ah, love.

Point it's unless I could ask a Naruto fan in Japan what it's really like there, then they have opinions too so who knows.

Edited by Insurrection, 03 September 2010 - 02:09 AM.

[jason voorhees]

i see very poor reasons for SS if you can understand team mate bonds which is what kish main point in his manga. i notice alot of misunderstandings because of this fact, or whatever i personaly see no posibility at this current point an time now could that change yes likly no.
Sakura in anger was firm that she loves Naruto now, that she's moved on from sasuke, and Sai says that as well, and Kishimoto said she was being honest and determined. Sai is talking about the intense team mate bond and about Sakura's memories of her crush and of a better Sasuke that will never exist again.
Sakura says right out loud in her first confession that she believed even then Sasuke hated her and would never return her feelings. They also ignore Sakura was already making a conscious shift away from Sasuke and toward Naruto the moment he makes the Promise of a Lifetime- go look at her thoughts right after he says it and how much like they are like part of her love confession to Naruto.

i can go on an on but this is my honest opin

a simpler way of puting it would be this is narutos story of him reaching his goals of becomeing a kage as well as him geting the girl as ben forshadowd by his mother/father& J&tsunada an reaching the dream of world piece.


Like Insurrection said inless you ask one of them are opins dont hold much water. except for whats happend so far

Edited by hypno toad, 03 September 2010 - 12:22 AM.

[Nate River]

There is only one other thing I'd like someone to clarify for me. HOW AND WHY THE kitten ARE NARUHINA AND SASUSAKU SO POPULAR!?

Watch the language.

Second, why are you worried about something so trivial? I see no need to worry about whether other people like the pairing unless you have some concern Kishimoto will make his decision based on popularity. Are we all somehow bound to like only NaruSaku or whatever turns out to be canon?

[Toasty Warrior]

There is only one other thing I'd like someone to clarify for me. HOW AND WHY THE kitten ARE NARUHINA AND SASUSAKU SO POPULAR!?

You really shouldn't let those other fans get too you, don't listen to what they say, as we all know most of them are clinging to ideas that are years old and anything new they immediately latch onto it and won't let go.

[Gravenimage]

I have stopped listening to them years ago it's no longer worth it having a decent debate with them since most of them will start bashing than pointing out any good points supporting their pairing.

To this very day there are still people who believe that Sakura will always love Sasuke no matter what and that Naruto is her so called second medal. There are also people who believes that she's just using Naruto to get to Sasuke and once he rescues and brings him back to Konoha she will return to her fan girl part one self and start oggling at Sasuke while ignoring and hitting Naruto and so and on. I could go on for hours mentioning more biased arguments but i don't want to bring more of them.

Edited by Gravenimage, 05 September 2010 - 12:49 AM.

[ShippudenGirl]

The whole pairing thing just makes you wish... Part 2 was kinda like DBZ ... XD like how they just end up married. Ah- then we could just all get along and not have to fight over who's going to win... Well, the development is still good but I would just love for more focus on the action and story then every chapter being "OMG Sasuke choked Sakura, there soooo canon!!!!"

XD well, not like that I'm not trying to be disrespectful to SS fans- just a funny example...

[Nate River]

The whole pairing thing just makes you wish... Part 2 was kinda like DBZ ... XD like how they just end up married. Ah- then we could just all get along and not have to fight over who's going to win... Well, the development is still good but I would just love for more focus on the action and story then every chapter being "OMG Sasuke choked Sakura, there soooo canon!!!!"

XD well, not like that I'm not trying to be disrespectful to SS fans- just a funny example...

Not really.

With the way part one ended Naruto and Sakura suddenly showing up married would have caused a torrent of justified displeasure about bad writing. Bulma and Vegeta showing up married was an attempt by Toriyama to tick off his fan base because he was tired of the series. It just failed. The difference is though, up to that pont Vegeta was a villain with no romantic ties to anyone, so it wasn't as if any conflicting ships existed for him and Bulma/Yamcha had been abandoned by Tori by then. It's not the same set of circumstances.

Besides, one of the things he's done very well is realistically develop their relationship. I'd hate to lose all of that development.

[Evil Potato]

^ Agreed, I'd hate to lose any of the fantastic NaruSaku development. Plus I'd love to see the road the 2 must travel before

they actually become a pairing, if in fact they do. I really wouldn't like them going from say right now, 3 year time skip,

Sakura is pregnant with Naruto and her child. I mean, win for us but we would have missed out on what we have waited so

long to see, and that is, the development and transformation from singles to a solid pairing.

[ShippudenGirl]

Okay okay XD I knew you guys would say that! At least it's something a bit different to discuss XD

I sure do love all there development!

[Gravenimage]

I agree the development between Naruto and Sakura is right there in the manga Kishi has done an excellent job developing their friendship leading to something more. In fact NS is the only pairing Kishi has developed so perfectly it wouldn't surprise if by the end of the manga they're already married with children.

[jason voorhees]

I agree the development between Naruto and Sakura is right there in the manga Kishi has done an excellent job developing their friendship leading to something more. In fact NS is the only pairing Kishi has developed so perfectly it wouldn't surprise if by the end of the manga they're already married with children.

i see ns or nothing to me everyhing else is ooc bring on the next chapter xDD

[maliousdei]

what do you guys think are some of the more "romantic moments" or "Potentially romantic moments" shared between naruto and sakura? and if there are none, what do you think could be a romantic moment that could happen for us in the future that is believable?

[Toasty Warrior]

Well you gotta remember Naruto is a shouen manga, so the romance always takes a backseat to the action, but it wouldn't hurt to have a few romantic moments between Naruto and Sakura like we had with the ramen stand and the hug, those type of little romantic moments always help develop their relationship even more.

[Cupcake-chan]

Well you gotta remember Naruto is a shouen manga, so the romance always takes a backseat to the action, but it wouldn't hurt to have a few romantic moments between Naruto and Sakura like we had with the ramen stand and the hug, those type of little romantic moments always help develop their relationship even more.

But if you think about it, Bakuman is also a shounen manga that's published on Jump magazine, and occasionally there are some romance parts. I think that the Naruto manga could be like that too. But not too much romance, 'cause it'll turn into a shoujo manga.

[ShippudenGirl]

Yeah, romance is fine in Shonen Manga- it isn't the main focus but it adds more drama to a story instead of 24/7 battles.

Also, an excuse for a character to make super-powered babies!

[Jenskott]

Well you gotta remember Naruto is a shouen manga, so the romance always takes a backseat to the action

I don't know because I still try to correct that misconception, since nobody seems listening, but...

That is false. Romance not always takes a backseat to the action in a shonen manga. It takes a backseat when it is an action-themed manga, not when it is a shonen manga.

The "Shonen manga" label shows the kind of customers it is aimed at, ("shonen" means young boys) not the genre the story belongs to. Shonen doesn't mean action and fights, right like shojo doesn't automatically mean romance stories.

There are plenty shonen manga feature romance heavily (Ranma 1/2, Inu-Yasha, Urusei Yatsura, City Hunter, Slam Dunk, Rurouni Kenshin...) or where the romance is the focus of the story, and the fights are few or nonexistent (Video Girl Ai, Touch, Kimagure Orange Road, Love Hina...). Right like there are plenty shojo manga featuring action and fights (Sailor Moon, Magic Knight Rayearth...).

Again, I repeat: Shonen manga doesn't mean action manga and shojo manga doesn't mean romance manga. That is a fallacy. If that classification was accurate, then Sailor Moon (a manga featuring humans wielding sundry powers and fighting evil creatures) should be regarded like a shonen manga instead of a shojo manga. But it is regarded like a shojo manga. Why? Because it is aimed to young girls.

I have met people wondering why Ranma 1/2 and Love Hina are shonen manga or why Inu-Yasha is labeled like a shonen manga. Because they were published in magazines publish shonen mangas, and their target are young boys. It doesn't matter if they feature romance or action, but their target. It is so simple.

[Gravenimage]

I don't know because I still try to correct that misconception, since nobody seems listening, but...

That is false. Romance not always takes a backseat to the action in a shonen manga. It takes a backseat when it is an action-themed manga, not when it is a shonen manga.

The "Shonen manga" label shows the kind of customers it is aimed at, ("shonen" means young boys) not the genre the story belongs to. Shonen doesn't mean action and fights, right like shojo doesn't automatically mean romance stories.

There are plenty shonen manga feature romance heavily (Ranma 1/2, Inu-Yasha, Urusei Yatsura, City Hunter, Slam Dunk, Rurouni Kenshin...) or where the romance is the focus of the story, and the fights are few or nonexistent (Video Girl Ai, Touch, Kimagure Orange Road, Love Hina...). Right like there are plenty shojo manga featuring action and fights (Sailor Moon, Magic Knight Rayearth...).

Again, I repeat: Shonen manga doesn't mean action manga and shojo manga doesn't mean romance manga. That is a fallacy. If that classification was accurate, then Sailor Moon (a manga featuring humans wielding sundry powers and fighting evil creatures) should be regarded like a shonen manga instead of a shojo manga. But it is regarded like a shojo manga. Why? Because it is aimed to young girls.

I have met people wondering why Ranma 1/2 and Love Hina are shonen manga or why Inu-Yasha is labeled like a shonen manga. Because they were published in magazines publish shonen mangas, and their target are young boys. It doesn't matter if they feature romance or action, but their target. It is so simple.

Yes I do know that shonen manga is written for boys and shojo for girls but sometimes people missunderstood one thing from the other, they make the mistake that shonen is more action less romance and the other way with shojo more romance less action, this is not true.

Edited by Gravenimage, 07 September 2010 - 05:20 PM.

[Jenskott]

Yes I do know that shonen manga is written for boys and shojo for girls but sometimes people missunderstood one thing from the other, they make the mistake that shonen is more action less romance and the other way with shojo more romance less action, this is not true.

I'm awfully sorry, but I don't quite understand what you have said. Are you agreeing with me?

[Quinny52]

^ Yeah he is, he's agreeing with your last post that it's a common misconception that in shonen, romance takes a back seat to the action and vice versa for shojo.

TBH honest though, I can understand where this misunderstanding comes from. Young girls tend to take interest in romance far sooner than boys, so it's easy to see why shojo mangas are tailored to suit those preferences, whereas it's more common for 12-15 Y.O. boys to be more into fights and action than seeing whether a character is getting any nookie.

[ahmed]

long time since the last activation

i want to ask about something i cant understand :
why sakura didn't blushe when sai told her that naruto really lover her
(i believe that she was knowing that she loves naruto)

and also i see some one who said :that if sakura loves romantically naruto she would blushe around him during the developments btween them in part 2
(and to know i watch the anime and i see them make her blushe aruond him in a filler)


if any one can answer my quesions,thanks to him

Edited by ahmed, 13 September 2010 - 03:51 AM.