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#1341 ns.Believe.It

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Posted 19 July 2014 - 07:04 PM

Naruto is probably not the type to hold something against someone for the things they did. As long as the person accepts his mistake and is willing to pay the cost for his mistakes, Naruto forgives him. He'd instead say that "It was due to all this that you did to me, I am able to come this far!" Naruto wasn't affected and influenced by Nagato's death? Well, okay if that's what you want to believe in :D

I prefer to think it was Naruto who influenced and affected Nagato, not the other way around  :roll:


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Posted 19 July 2014 - 07:05 PM

I prefer to think it was Naruto who influenced and affected Nagato, not the other way around  :roll:

Works both ways :D....In Naruto's case it was more like Nagato gave him the answer to the 'golden' question and a purpose to strive for!

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#1343 ns.Believe.It

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Posted 19 July 2014 - 07:21 PM

Works both ways :D....In Naruto's case it was more like Nagato gave him the answer to the 'golden' question and a purpose to strive for!

Its not like Naruto didn't have a purpose to strive for before Nagato's speech. That was just Kishi ending Nagato's character on a high.

I don't know why Kishi does that. Though I did find Nagato's reason to turn over to the dark side not-bad,if that makes sense.


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Posted 19 July 2014 - 07:29 PM

Its not like Naruto didn't have a purpose to strive for before Nagato's speech. That was just Kishi ending Nagato's character on a high.
I don't know why Kishi does that. Though I did find Nagato's reason to turn over to the dark side not-bad,if that makes sense.

Uhmmm...no. Before Nagato it was like, he had to protect himself and the village from the Akatsuki. But after having a talk with Nagato, he found a much wider and deeper goal to establish and he cane to know that being a Hokage was not it and that he now had a wider vision. It was like he found a much wider and deeper goal asset and he finally understood what his sensei meant about peace and stuff which went on to become his #1 priority

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Posted 19 July 2014 - 07:43 PM

I believe this whole "Obito regrets not confession" is an assumption.
 
That wanst a "kind of confession" he just complimented her, Naruto almost did that if he didnt told her that she was still the same when she asked him if she was more feminine.
 
How this will changer her "unworthyness", i think her being unworthy of Naruto's love on that specific scene had nothing to do with whatever feelings she might had for him, she felt like that because she felt guilty of putting her desires into Naruto it in way felt like she was using him and was being a burden to Naruto hurting him because of his innability of fullfilling a selfish promise she unintentionally forced into him.
On whose promise no longer holds since it was broken by her.
 
I dont know, if any he was really shocked that she loved him so much that she was going to kill him to save Sasuke and even if it means letting Naruto hater her forever to relief the burden of the promise, that's from Sai's perspective that was forced into Naruto.
There's no conclusion about Naruto's feelings into that part saying it changed is an assumption and there are hints of the opposite since he was jealous at Sakura at some point.

The problem is that it's impossible to prove she loves Naruto thoughout her actions in the moment, because all of them are connected to non-pairing feelings.
THe only way to prove it would be choosing Naruto over Sasuke on equal grounds and i think this scenario is impossible.

I think this proves me right on Obito's regrets http://narutobase.ne...ga/Naruto/244/9

 

And how is your example supposed to show her that he loves her ? That doesn't make sense Minato complimented the feature Kushina hated the most the only one who did that while everyone mocked her for that its not a confession but it pretty much tells her that . Still my point stands MK is not the main paring so it was done like that only to let us know that's all NS as the main should get the whole package .

 

Its not just that specific scene the KN4 scene also "The only things I can do for Naruto are so little"  Naruto needs to tell her how amazing she is . And the promise no longer holds in your opinion not mine and that's certainly not what Naruto said but I don't want to debate on this subject.

 

631 when he says that she's "more or less his girlfriend" tells me otherwise its an assumption as much as yours .

 

Its impossible by your standards and views not mine and the manga is far from over . And I said hundreds of times equal ground is not needed she just need to tell figure out why she doesn't love him anymore  its not like her love for him made any sense at all in the first place really its not so hard like so many of you make it appear so . . 


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Posted 19 July 2014 - 08:00 PM

We already got that during the NS hug.

 

I know.  I said that in the post you quoted.  What is your point?  That Kishimoto can't possibly do the same thing again, and some kind of confrontation between Hinata and Naruto is the only option now?

 

 

Edit:  I just noticed that my post count and likes count are the same.  Is there some kind of prize for that?   :hehehe:


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Posted 19 July 2014 - 08:06 PM

 

I know.  I said that in the post you quoted.  What is your point?  That Kishimoto can't possibly do the same thing again, and some kind of confrontation between Hinata and Naruto is the only option now?

 

 

Edit:  I just noticed that my post count and likes count are the same.  Is there some kind of prize for that?   :hehehe:

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Posted 19 July 2014 - 08:07 PM

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Posted 19 July 2014 - 08:11 PM

I know.  I said that in the post you quoted.  What is your point?  That Kishimoto can't possibly do the same thing again, and some kind of confrontation between Hinata and Naruto is the only option now?


No that we already got Hinata's approval so another one wouldn't even be necessary

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Posted 19 July 2014 - 08:11 PM

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They were the same when I made the edit.   :yes: Things can change fast.  Only takes a click.

 

 

No that we already got Hinata's approval so another one wouldn't even be necessary

 

So your thought is that NS will happen and we will not be shown Hinata's reaction?

 

 

EDIT: And now my post/likes count is the same again.   :hehehe:


Edited by KnS, 19 July 2014 - 08:14 PM.


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Posted 19 July 2014 - 08:19 PM

They were the same when I made the edit.   :yes: Things can change fast.  Only takes a click.
 
 
 
 
So your thought is that NS will happen and we will not be shown Hinata's reaction?


Most probably. She knows that Naruto likes Sakura she probably also knows Sakura likes Naruto, point is she already knows about NS and is fine with it. I think having Naruto's respect is enough for her, her character has already come full circle with 615.

The problem is Hinata's first and only priority is Naruto, with 504, 631 and 663 Kishi basically told them "lolnope" so now Kishi's in for one helluva kitten from NH fans who will complain that Hinata will be a character who never accomplished her goals which is one of the main points of the story (neither will Lee but whatever)

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Posted 19 July 2014 - 08:21 PM

 

They were the same when I made the edit.   :yes: Things can change fast.  Only takes a click.

 

 
 

 

So your thought is that NS will happen and we will not be shown Hinata's reaction?

 

 

EDIT: And now my post/likes count is the same again.   :hehehe:

hehehe I know :)

 

yay they're the same. 


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Posted 19 July 2014 - 08:34 PM

Does Hinata really know about Naruto's feelings for Sakura? :confused: I'm still not sure what Hinata's smile meant. I mean, it wasn't like Naruto actually hugged Sakura back. It was all her on that one. Hinata doesn't really have a reason to believe Naruto likes Sakura after a scene like that. Maybe she didn't think too much about it.

 

It's hard to say if Hinata's aware of Naruto's feelings for Sakura or that he doesn't even like her. Her speeches about "supporting Naruto forever" or "walking with him and holding his hand" is still heavily debatable. We don't know if she meant it in a romantic context or just a support context.


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Posted 19 July 2014 - 08:40 PM

Does Hinata really know about Naruto's feelings for Sakura? :confused: I'm still not sure what Hinata's smile meant. I mean, it wasn't like Naruto actually hugged Sakura back. It was all her on that one. Hinata doesn't really have a reason to believe Naruto likes Sakura after a scene like that. Maybe she didn't think too much about it.
 
It's hard to say if Hinata's aware of Naruto's feelings for Sakura or that he doesn't even like her. Her speeches about "supporting Naruto forever" or "walking with him and holding his hand" is still heavily debatable. We don't know if she meant it in a romantic context or just a support context.

The only problem is....Hinata didn't witness the CPR :P. If that'd be the case, forget Naruto she'd be aware of Sakura's feelings for Naruto and for all I know, the whole ninja world knows that the only one who is probably the closest to Naruto.....is Sakura! (Excluding the elders and all). Everyone from K11 knows about Naruto's crush. So maybe, Hinata would have come to know about S part of the NS then XD

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Posted 19 July 2014 - 08:43 PM

Most probably. She knows that Naruto likes Sakura she probably also knows Sakura likes Naruto, point is she already knows about NS and is fine with it. I think having Naruto's respect is enough for her, her character has already come full circle with 615.

 

Besides there being no specific panel that proves Hinata realizes and accepts Naruto's love for Sakura, I would say Hinata's Infinite Tsukuyomi dream proves Naruto's respect is not all she wants from him, or that she could possibly be "fine" with not getting her heart's desire.  



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Posted 19 July 2014 - 09:01 PM

That doesn't stop Lee and Ino thinking of their love being in the dream or anything. So what if the one they love love another? It won't stop you dreaming. Didn't stop Obito when sleeping at Madara's lair, yet he knows Kakashi and Rin's ordeal. If it's your dream, so be it. I can only hope that the dream sequence for all is a moral lesson because it sure can help a lot of those character to be complete. Last thing I need is "Aw man! Boooooo!"

For the record, her goal is just want to improve herself and gain acknowledgement that she is in the same level as Naruto, her idol. Love is your personal thing unless otherwise. Seriously, I'm like the only one helping her. I'm trying not to be too judgmental, but we are not suggesting that only hers come true and everyone is "lolz", right?

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Posted 19 July 2014 - 09:12 PM

They got all that from one panel? Genius level interpretation. Also at what sort of level is Sakura's love for Sasuke I wonder. It seems to get stronger and stronger in many scenes according to them. 

It grew into eternal love. :chuckle:

 

Does Hinata really know about Naruto's feelings for Sakura? :confused: I'm still not sure what Hinata's smile meant. I mean, it wasn't like Naruto actually hugged Sakura back. It was all her on that one. Hinata doesn't really have a reason to believe Naruto likes Sakura after a scene like that. Maybe she didn't think too much about it.

 

It's hard to say if Hinata's aware of Naruto's feelings for Sakura or that he doesn't even like her. Her speeches about "supporting Naruto forever" or "walking with him and holding his hand" is still heavily debatable. We don't know if she meant it in a romantic context or just a support context.

By the looks of it Hinata has no clue about Naruto's feelings towards Sakura. Sure she smiled when Sakura hugged Naruto, but truth be told that can mean a lot of things. For example "You b*tch you stool my boyfriend, I'm going to murder you". :lol:


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Posted 19 July 2014 - 09:13 PM

Does Hinata really know about Naruto's feelings for Sakura? :confused: I'm still not sure what Hinata's smile meant. I mean, it wasn't like Naruto actually hugged Sakura back. It was all her on that one. Hinata doesn't really have a reason to believe Naruto likes Sakura after a scene like that. Maybe she didn't think too much about it.

 

It's hard to say if Hinata's aware of Naruto's feelings for Sakura or that he doesn't even like her. Her speeches about "supporting Naruto forever" or "walking with him and holding his hand" is still heavily debatable. We don't know if she meant it in a romantic context or just a support cons

She should honestly  know by now. It isn't like Naruto's ever hid his feelings for Sakura in a way for her to not be able to notice them.


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Posted 19 July 2014 - 09:28 PM

She should honestly  know by now. It isn't like Naruto's ever hid his feelings for Sakura in a way for her to not be able to notice them.

I always believe Hinata is in denial about naruto love to sakura.
I think the stalker vibe don't help it either.

Obito regret to not confess to rin mention before he got crush by rock ninja.

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Posted 19 July 2014 - 09:31 PM

I just believe so long he/she isn't going out or married, nothing too wrong about dreaming to go with your love. I still don't see a big deal.

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