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#1341 StriderC

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Posted 24 May 2013 - 04:15 PM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ May 24 2013, 10:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That would be so perfect. Naruto confessing and Sakura responding with a flustered kiss. danarusakunp3.gif

I think I would die. wow.png


It's sooooo sappy thoughhhhhhh. >_<

#1342 Slextrem

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Posted 24 May 2013 - 04:15 PM

Wow, Quin! I'm impressed! I didn't realize you knew that much about the Japanese language. The closest that I can get to Japanese is speaking in Weeaboo, desu desu~ laugh.gif

QUOTE (StriderC @ May 24 2013, 11:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's sooooo sappy thoughhhhhhh. >_<

You know you like it. fu.png

Edited by Slextrem, 24 May 2013 - 04:16 PM.


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Posted 24 May 2013 - 04:16 PM

QUOTE (nath0man @ May 24 2013, 09:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think it will be something we haven't seen before. Sakura needs something unique.


yeah i could see her making her own technique.

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Posted 24 May 2013 - 04:19 PM

QUOTE (rikakim94 @ May 24 2013, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yeah i could see her making her own technique.

I'd like to see her own spin on the Byakugo. For example, Naruto's Rasen-Shurinken, which was derived from the Rasengan. It's cool because it adds an element of his own to a technique already created by his father. I'd like to see something similar for our girl. Surpassing her master and all that fun stuff. cool.gif

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Posted 24 May 2013 - 04:19 PM

QUOTE (Quinny52 @ May 24 2013, 11:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Welcome to H&E, the haven for Narusaku fans everywhere. wink.gif

OK, so since we're on the subject of Minato's statement, I'm going to try, albeit with my basic understanding of Japanese phrases and text structure, to debunk this to remove any and all ambiguity from this line - to silence the few remaining nay-sayers out there (nobody in here, of course tongue.gif )

Hope you can all understand this... --Click here to view--
Now, from my understanding, the word for 'friends' (I'm assuming it refers to singular and plural) is Tomodachi and is indescriminate of gender, so in this case the text in Minato's speech bubble would 've read as somthing like 'Naruto no tomodachi' or 'Naruto's friend(s)' (if anyone knows further about this and wishes to correct me, feel free smile.gif ).

Kanojo, is to refer to a female in the 3rd person i.e 'her' or 'she'. However, it has also taken on the meaning of 'girlfriend' i.e. female romantic partner. An example - 'Ore no kanojo wa utsukushii desu'(let me know if that's right) literally means 'My 'her' is beautiful', with 'kanajo' meaning girlfriend in this case.

Now, on to the panel. I'm not sure how to post this as an image, so I'll provide the link to the panel in it's raw form. (recommend opening this in a seperate window so you can have both pages on screen).

Tomodachi is written in Kanji as 友達, and in Hiragana as ともだち.
Kanojo is written in Kanji as 彼女, and in Hiragana as かのじょ.
From looking at the raw panel, one can quite clearly see that the text does NOT say 'Naruto no tomodachi', it says 'Naruto no kanojo', literally meaning 'Naruto's 'her/she', with kanojo having the same meaning as in my example. Both versions of 'kanojo' (Kanji and Hiragana) are also provided in Minato's speach bubble by Kishimoto (highlighted by myself in the red box). If one zooms in, one should be able to clearly see the 'no' () in 'kanojo'.

In the case of this phrase, there is no other meaning to it other than Minato questioning if Sakura is Naruto's romantic partner, his 'girlfriend'. If Minato was seriously asking whether she was Naruto's 'friend' i.e. a person with whom Naruto is closely familiar with, then surely Kishi would've had Minato say Tomodachi (which, as I said I am to belive, is refers to both males and females), instead of Kanojo, because lets be honest, it doesn't sound right, does it? Why would Minato go out of his way to ask Sakura if she was a close aquaintance of Naruto who just happens to be female - kind of stating the obvious, isn't it?

So there's my take on it. If anyone else wants to add to my thoughts, then please feel free. I hope this has contributed to the mounting evidence of NS's inevitable conclusion.

Thanks for reading. biggrin.gif


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It's too mushy for me. LMAO! I'd melt. That's how mushy it is. argh1.png I no wants to melt!

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Posted 24 May 2013 - 04:19 PM

QUOTE (sushi. @ May 24 2013, 04:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That could be the case if Kishi went the NH route. Because they have a flat and very sunshiny relationship.

But NS has so many conflicts and ups and downs that needs to be brought up again.
Sakura's forehead, perhaps the confession, Kushina comparison(done pictureem0.gif) and Sakura's mental journey on how to love Naruto and not Sasuke.


Kiss on her forehead Kishi PLEASE wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif

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Posted 24 May 2013 - 04:20 PM

Now I hope some genjutsu will be involved, you know why? Because seeing how things go, she is on her road to surpass her master... which was mentioned way back in the beginning when it was also mentioned she was initially a genjutsu type.

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Posted 24 May 2013 - 04:22 PM

QUOTE (StriderC @ May 24 2013, 11:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You and Slex need to hop your buns on Skype!

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It's too mushy for me. LMAO! I'd melt. That's how mushy it is. argh1.png I no wants to melt!

LOL! We can't have that happen. We wouldn't be able to make a video if you were a pile of goop. laugh.gif What would you prefer to see? I know you mentioned wanting to see a confession from Naruto. I just think it would be cute to see Sakura respond in a flustered kind of way. Something that shows her "dere" side for just a split second. wink.gif

EDIT: I can't hop on Skype right now. I'm getting ready to go to the gym. argh1.png

Edited by Slextrem, 24 May 2013 - 04:23 PM.


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Posted 24 May 2013 - 04:24 PM

Late to the never-ending party. Now then, I see the raw is released and nice to know the translation is actually correct. Awesome. Just wish MS uses simple words, rather than misguided use of it. Oh well, thanks for the translation. It's just funny that Minato actually went through the same thing as Naruto. People thought Minato and Kushina had a very nice no worries relationship. Well, not according to Minato, especially he knows how he went through, so pretty much, Minato leaves the hand of Sakura. Wow, this is just perfect.

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Posted 24 May 2013 - 04:25 PM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ May 24 2013, 11:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
LOL! We can't have that happen. We wouldn't be able to make a video if you were a pile of goop. laugh.gif What would you prefer to see? I know you mentioned wanting to see a confession from Naruto. I just think it would be cute to see Sakura respond in a flustered kind of way. Something that shows her "dere" side for just a split second. wink.gif


I'd prefer Naruto to initiate this kiss if there's gonna be any kissing involved. I mean, every which way, it's gonna be super mushy it seems, but I'm sure Kishi would mix some comedy in there if it ever happened. It'd be cute if Sakura responded in that way. No doubt! I'm sure I'd love it but by that time, I'll be a pile of goop. I'll take turning into goop if everyone wants to see Sakura and Naruto kiss. I'd do this for the team. shamefulcry0js.gif LMAO.

The gym! Fun! biggrin.gif fu.png

Edited by StriderC, 24 May 2013 - 04:26 PM.


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Posted 24 May 2013 - 04:26 PM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ May 24 2013, 05:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And Hashirama is one step ahead of them.... tongue.gif Let's see if he will make some comparison since we know that Naruto is kinda similar to him too...

Poor Naruto, It's kinda similar to everyone: Kushina, Minato, Hashirama and Obito LOOOOL

And on the other side we have Sakura = Tsunade, Rin, Kushina and I BET Mito, too!
Hashirama is too damn goofy to not being kept in check by someone like Sakura, ahem, Mito. biggrin.gif ;)
Oh and we shouldn't forget the 3rd. Naruto has that kind love for his village and everyone like the third and Byako was shown to be the same type of tough woman.
I swear to God Kishi made a NaruSaku for every generation, lol!

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Posted 24 May 2013 - 04:29 PM

QUOTE (StriderC @ May 24 2013, 11:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd prefer Naruto to initiate this kiss if there's gonna be any kissing involved. I mean, every which way, it's gonna be super mushy it seems, but I'm sure Kishi would mix some comedy in there if it ever happened. It'd be cute if Sakura responded in that way. No doubt! I'm sure I'd love it but by that time, I'll be a pile of goop. I'll take turning into goop if everyone wants to see Sakura and Naruto kiss. I'd do this for the team. shamefulcry0js.gif LMAO.

The gym! Fun! biggrin.gif fu.png

What a good sport you are. a_hug.gif th_7eyytubokky7rehok1k.gif I feel like if Naruto were to initiate it, she would get flustered and punch him. I can only see her initiating that kind of thing until later on in the relationship. It would be really funny to see Naruto try and kiss her though. I feel like any attempt at being affectionate from him would turn into something comedic. laugh.gif

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Posted 24 May 2013 - 04:31 PM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ May 24 2013, 11:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What a good sport you are. a_hug.gif th_7eyytubokky7rehok1k.gif I feel like if Naruto were to initiate it, she would get flustered and punch him. I can only see her initiating that kind of thing until later on in the relationship. It would be really funny to see Naruto try and kiss her though. I feel like any attempt at being affectionate from him would turn into something comedic. laugh.gif


Indeed! shamefulcry0js.gif Seems like you're gonna get a kick out of seeing goop Oust. tongue.gif

Oh, definitely! I might be saved if it turns into something comedic really quickly actually. a_thumbs.gif I wouldn't mind Sakura initiating it either. Hell, she's the one who initiated the hug but it'd be interesting to see Naruto take charge. He's bound to get injured regardless. th_7eyytubokky7rehok1k.gif

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Posted 24 May 2013 - 04:33 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ May 24 2013, 12:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And on the other side we have Sakura = Tsunade, Rin, Kushina and I BET Mito, too!
Hashirama is too damn goofy to not being kept in check by someone like Sakura, ahem, Mito. biggrin.gif wink.gif
Oh and we shouldn't forget the 3rd. Naruto has that kind love for his village and everyone like the third and Byako was shown to be the same type of tough woman.
I swear to God Kishi made a NaruSaku for every generation, lol!

Yeah, that's why it seems Kishi is a big fan of a loser/failure/goofy/big dreams characters being together with a tough/scary/strong/love interest/supportive characters. Hashirama could be the same and honestly, I won't be surprise. I would just say, "You should have see it coming." I guess Kishi does love tough girl or a guy who wants to win a girl's affection. I mean Mario has one badass yet scary girl character. Maybe Kishi's wife is scary. But in the end, it's all good.

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Posted 24 May 2013 - 04:37 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ May 24 2013, 11:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now I hope some genjutsu will be involved, you know why? Because seeing how things go, she is on her road to surpass her master... which was mentioned way back in the beginning when it was also mentioned she was initially a genjutsu type.

I would like to see that too, actually. It's been a long time since he's touched base on her prowess in genjutsu. Mind you, I'm not sure how useful that skill would be up against the Jyuubi... I'd like to see her master her genjutsu abilities, but for this fight, I want to see her using those fists of fury.

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Posted 24 May 2013 - 04:38 PM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ May 24 2013, 11:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would like to see that too, actually. It's been a long time since he's touched base on her prowess in genjutsu. Mind you, I'm not sure how useful that skill would be up against the Jyuubi... I'd like to see her master her genjutsu abilities, but for this fight, I want to see her using those fists of fury.


Sakura's too slow to have fist of fury... kruemelmonsteryn0.gif LOL

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Posted 24 May 2013 - 04:47 PM

The thing that gets me is that Kishi, while always adding in twists and turns, tends to make things blatantly obvious. I remember way back when it wasn't confirmed that Minato (at the time Yondaime because no one knew who he was yet) was Naruto's father and to me, it was just so obvious. And obvious for a reason too, just the physical similarities and all the foreshadowing to it as well. I remember people saying that because it was so obvious it can't be true..

Kishi isn't trying to play inception. He wants to make his manga not completely predictable, but somethings are obvious for a reason.

Thats how I feel about this chapter and turn of events (((:

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Posted 24 May 2013 - 04:54 PM

QUOTE (StriderC @ May 24 2013, 08:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's sooooo sappy thoughhhhhhh. >_<


I much prefer it if Naruto and Sasuke fight with both falling to the ground. Sakura goes over to Naruto upset and gets all hung up. Naruto wakes up and is like "Ow ow ow. Easy Sakura." She perks up and smiles through tears saying "You scared me, you jerk" and then they kiss right on the floor Spider-Man style.
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#1359 Slextrem

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Posted 24 May 2013 - 04:55 PM

QUOTE (StriderC @ May 24 2013, 11:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sakura's too slow to have fist of fury... kruemelmonsteryn0.gif LOL

My bad. I forgot that she's the weakest of the rookies.

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Posted 24 May 2013 - 04:56 PM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ May 24 2013, 05:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My bad. I forgot that she's the weakest of the rookies.

Oh, wait. kruemelmonsteryn0.gif

Ok, Slex, you gave me so much feels! <3
Anyway, about her prowess in genjutsu. What if she gets Hashi's technique Bringer of Darkness.
Basically that jutsu cannot be undone until you kill the caster and it leaves the enemy in total blindess.
That's so OP tho'. BUt still, one can dream, right? biggrin.gif

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