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#1341 swagosaurus

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 06:24 AM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Dec 30 2012, 03:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So, the most recent comment on my 615 video made me laugh. I wanted to share it.

"ns fans fell for a plothole throwoff its used to distract viewers from the ultimate outcone but smarter ppl been saw past this..its simple common sense a girl u end up wit in reality wont b the 1st girl or boy u loved OBVIOUSLY most of the time.naruto confirms his feelings tht hibata was right by his side so his life was never just his but hinatas as well..theese two are lovers and they will face the juubi on the. frontlines Naruhina vs the juubii! i dnt blame u tho slex ur another of very few ppl who in super denial over analyzing wont help.. just like obito bn tobi it was a plot throwoff. naruhina is canon no way around naruto said HIMSELF that his and hinatas life are connected...hence the name of chapter "connected" u shuld b a nh fan slex i dont respect ANY ns fan cuz of they ignorence n stupidity but i respect u ur smart i cant c how u felll for tht fake ns stuff...honestly lml ..."

Apparently, I should be a NaruHina fan just because this guy doesn't respect NaruSaku shippers.


I watched that video; it was good stuff.

Yeah. The fandom is filled with double-standards and hypocrisy, so I tend to stay away from non-FC forums. Today I got into like an 8 hour debate session, though, haha.

Edited by swagosaurus, 30 December 2012 - 06:25 AM.



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Posted 30 December 2012 - 06:26 AM

... What does lml mean?
Naruto never said he and Hinata were connected. XD Kurama added onto Hinata's sentiments that people have died for Naruto before, all those deaths and the people willing to die for him are all connected (the people already having died for him being even more relevant).

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 06:28 AM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Dec 30 2012, 12:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So, the most recent comment on my 615 video made me laugh. I wanted to share it.

"ns fans fell for a plothole throwoff its used to distract viewers from the ultimate outcone but smarter ppl been saw past this..its simple common sense a girl u end up wit in reality wont b the 1st girl or boy u loved OBVIOUSLY most of the time.naruto confirms his feelings tht hibata was right by his side so his life was never just his but hinatas as well..theese two are lovers and they will face the juubi on the. frontlines Naruhina vs the juubii! i dnt blame u tho slex ur another of very few ppl who in super denial over analyzing wont help.. just like obito bn tobi it was a plot throwoff. naruhina is canon no way around naruto said HIMSELF that his and hinatas life are connected...hence the name of chapter "connected" u shuld b a nh fan slex i dont respect ANY ns fan cuz of they ignorence n stupidity but i respect u ur smart i cant c how u felll for tht fake ns stuff...honestly lml ..."

Apparently, I should be a NaruHina fan just because this guy doesn't respect NaruSaku shippers.


It's hard for me to read the comment they left, and take it seriously. LOL.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 06:29 AM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Dec 30 2012, 01:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So, the most recent comment on my 615 video made me laugh. I wanted to share it.

"ns fans fell for a plothole throwoff its used to distract viewers from the ultimate outcone but smarter ppl been saw past this..its simple common sense a girl u end up wit in reality wont b the 1st girl or boy u loved OBVIOUSLY most of the time.naruto confirms his feelings tht hibata was right by his side so his life was never just his but hinatas as well..theese two are lovers and they will face the juubi on the. frontlines Naruhina vs the juubii! i dnt blame u tho slex ur another of very few ppl who in super denial over analyzing wont help.. just like obito bn tobi it was a plot throwoff. naruhina is canon no way around naruto said HIMSELF that his and hinatas life are connected...hence the name of chapter "connected" u shuld b a nh fan slex i dont respect ANY ns fan cuz of they ignorence n stupidity but i respect u ur smart i cant c how u felll for tht fake ns stuff...honestly lml ..."

Apparently, I should be a NaruHina fan just because this guy doesn't respect NaruSaku shippers.

Oh man. This is out of control. I wonder how bad if everything backfire it will be. I think I will avoid internet with anime/manga stuff in there for a quite a while. We'll see in the future. Anyway, your video is really great. I'm glad that you express your thoughts in a non-biased fashion. Kishi is probably picking his nose thinking "Huh?" if people think this made NH canon. It needs a followup to make it work because it didn't help that Naruto didn't show any romantic presence at all, rather a friendship thank. It's as if she got friendzoned but we will see.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 06:32 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Dec 30 2012, 12:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh man. This is out of control. I wonder how bad if everything backfire it will be. I think I will avoid internet with anime/manga stuff in there for a quite a while. We'll see in the future. Anyway, your video is really great. I'm glad that you express your thoughts in a non-biased fashion. Kishi is probably picking his nose thinking "Huh?" if people think this made NH canon. It needs a followup to make it work because it didn't help that Naruto didn't show any romantic presence at all, rather a friendship thank. It's as if she got friendzoned but we will see.


By backfiring, do you mean things blowing up in the faces of NaruHina shippers due to a NaruSaku moment? Because if a NaruSaku moment were to follow up what just happened (hopefully not right after, that'd feel forced and awkward), then things are most certainly going to get crazy.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 06:33 AM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Dec 30 2012, 07:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So, the most recent comment on my 615 video made me laugh. I wanted to share it.

"ns fans fell for a plothole throwoff its used to distract viewers from the ultimate outcone but smarter ppl been saw past this..its simple common sense a girl u end up wit in reality wont b the 1st girl or boy u loved OBVIOUSLY most of the time.naruto confirms his feelings tht hibata was right by his side so his life was never just his but hinatas as well..theese two are lovers and they will face the juubi on the. frontlines Naruhina vs the juubii! i dnt blame u tho slex ur another of very few ppl who in super denial over analyzing wont help.. just like obito bn tobi it was a plot throwoff. naruhina is canon no way around naruto said HIMSELF that his and hinatas life are connected...hence the name of chapter "connected" u shuld b a nh fan slex i dont respect ANY ns fan cuz of they ignorence n stupidity but i respect u ur smart i cant c how u felll for tht fake ns stuff...honestly lml ..."

Apparently, I should be a NaruHina fan just because this guy doesn't respect NaruSaku shippers.


It's flawless logic really, I have no problem if they don't respect NaruSaku fans and I respect what they like but I want to beat them with a dictionary for making me read that.

QUOTE (kirabook @ Dec 30 2012, 07:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
... What does lml mean?
Naruto never said he and Hinata were connected. XD Kurama added onto Hinata's sentiments that people have died for Naruto before, all those deaths and the people willing to die for him are all connected (the people already having died for him being even more relevant).


Lml means laughing mad loud, it's like lmao or rofl.
I also assumed he meant everyone is connected, isn't that what Neji said and what the vision of all those who have died for him meant.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 06:42 AM

QUOTE (swagosaurus @ Dec 30 2012, 12:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I watched that video; it was good stuff.

Yeah. The fandom is filled with double-standards and hypocrisy, so I tend to stay away from non-FC forums. Today I got into like an 8 hour debate session, though, haha.

I try not to get involved in "debates" anymore. They always lead to headaches and can last for days, depending on who you're talking to. It's especially annoying when a debate ends with agreeing to disagree; I always feel like I've wasted my time.

QUOTE (Capn Banjo @ Dec 30 2012, 12:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's hard for me to read the comment they left, and take it seriously. LOL.

It's certainly difficult to decipher. sleep.gif

Edited by Slextrem, 30 December 2012 - 06:47 AM.


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Posted 30 December 2012 - 06:48 AM

I think reviews are better. I remember back a long time ago watching some debate videos, I can't recall between who but.... it just seems like if you're going to get into a debate, it's a lot better to do it with text. Videos of evidence or reviews seems different though, you aren't exactly discounting the other sides, just stating the facts, which is very useful for text debates compared to a video of someone replying to someone elses debate video.

And just saying again, Kurama said everyone is connected, Naruto never really spoke that aloud, and he definitely didn't tell Hinata that. The chapter is called that because Naruto got a pep talk from not only Hinata, but Kurama too.










And you know, I was so bored that I watched a recent Naruto filler, it made me realize that I wish Naruto had some darker moments when Kyuubi had more influence back in the old days. Other than killing Naruto's parents and other villagers that night, Kurama hasn't done anything really terrible recently, which is why I think he was forgiven so easily. But this also makes me wonder, would Kurama have been so..... nice if his other half were still intact?



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Posted 30 December 2012 - 06:53 AM

QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ Dec 30 2012, 12:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I thought the NH fans said that parallels mean nothing, now all of a sudden they are the most important? *sigh* I have a headache.

It's pretty standard. When something goes against their ship or what they believe, it doesn't matter or doesn't count. But the second such a thing swings in their favor, they'll change their tune real quick.

It happens in pretty much every shipping fandom; the only difference is how much of it you see or how far it goes in a particular ship.

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Apparently, I should be a NaruHina fan just because this guy doesn't respect NaruSaku shippers.

I'm sure you're sobbing uncontrollably over you inability to get his respect.

This must be such a crushing blow for you. There there. It'll get better. *pats shoulder*

Seriously though, comments like that are funny, so thanks for sharing.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 07:04 AM

NH: before-screw parallels, Sakura is a bad character for hitting naruto,
After- a parallel is our strongest argument, omg they so canon, goo hinata slap dat naruto.

Haha, the amount of hypocrisy is too damn high.

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#1351 Slextrem

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 07:06 AM

QUOTE (dl316bh @ Dec 30 2012, 12:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm sure you're sobbing uncontrollably over you inability to get his respect.

This must be such a crushing blow for you. There there. It'll get better. *pats shoulder*

Seriously though, comments like that are funny, so thanks for sharing.

You're welcome. a_thumbs.gif

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 07:36 AM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Dec 30 2012, 07:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So, the most recent comment on my 615 video made me laugh. I wanted to share it.

"ns fans fell for a plothole throwoff its used to distract viewers from the ultimate outcone but smarter ppl been saw past this..its simple common sense a girl u end up wit in reality wont b the 1st girl or boy u loved OBVIOUSLY most of the time.naruto confirms his feelings tht hibata was right by his side so his life was never just his but hinatas as well..theese two are lovers and they will face the juubi on the. frontlines Naruhina vs the juubii! i dnt blame u tho slex ur another of very few ppl who in super denial over analyzing wont help.. just like obito bn tobi it was a plot throwoff. naruhina is canon no way around naruto said HIMSELF that his and hinatas life are connected...hence the name of chapter "connected" u shuld b a nh fan slex i dont respect ANY ns fan cuz of they ignorence n stupidity but i respect u ur smart i cant c how u felll for tht fake ns stuff...honestly lml ..."

Apparently, I should be a NaruHina fan just because this guy doesn't respect NaruSaku shippers.


..for the love of- I..oh GAWD. 111189.gif

First off, learn how to write some decent English...or for starters human? I mean, I'm not perfect with grammar either...BUT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I JUST WANTED TO FLIP A FREAKIN TABLE! rawr.gif and this person calls us stupid and ignorant snort fu.png

Second of all, this person needs to learn to respect other's opinions. Narusaku or not. But hey, if he/she cannot respect your opinion...why respect them back ? People like that just piss me off. dry.gif



QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ Dec 30 2012, 06:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I thought the NH fans said that parallels mean nothing, now all of a sudden they are the most important? *sigh* I have a headache.


^ This. I mean, let's not deny it guys...but we do have our hypocrite moments..but naruhina, have them the majority of the time. Such as this. I've seen alot of them saying "kitten LOGIC! kitten PARALLELS! THEY DON'T MEAN SHIET!" Oh nooooo, but nooow chapter 615 "PARALLELS, PARALLELS EVERYWHERE" ...I'm done. Eating cake is way more important now than this messed up bs. facepalm.png

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 08:07 AM

QUOTE (kirabook @ Dec 30 2012, 05:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I also saw some posts saying the Kyuubi chakra would boost Hinata's eyes somehow and she'd get a new powerup (I honestly can't see that happening, not to down Hinata, but I can't see her getting any power boosts, maybe that's also a sign of her development stopping?)

I saw another suggesting that Hinata would guide his attacks or something.... but what is the point in that? Naruto is perfectly capable of knowing where to attack....

And the Byakugan has ALWAYS freaked me out. *shiver* I don't like the veins and I really wish they had pupils or something. I mean, I guess Ino's family doesn't technically have pupils either, but her eyes aren't like, nearly completely white you know? White eyes just seem like something from a horror movie. Where did Kishi think up the Byakugan anyway.... surely there was another way.... XD


some people have said that her hair will go red like kushinas..... O___o

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:14 AM

QUOTE (kirabook @ Dec 30 2012, 10:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wouldn't go calling off battles that involve holding hands. Just look at the wonderful manga that was Double Arts.... (I seriously suggest reading, although its life was cut so short sad.gif )


Double Arts...... For the love of god.... to this day I seriously wish I could go to Japan and kick the dumbass editors in the balls for cancelling it. facepalm.png

Well, at least the author has a pretty good selling with another series now. It's called Nisekoi. It's pretty good, a harem manga. But not anything spectacular.

QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ Dec 30 2012, 11:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That was just a clone so the real Naruto could go meet Sakura in her bedroom for a candle light dinner, a rose peddle bubble bath, and one long night of Heaven and Earth.

BTW, Rock lee trashed the cake after he got drunk. Something about the cake making fun of his mother or something


WIN.


QUOTE (4000TMNT @ Dec 30 2012, 12:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why would Naruto hold Hinata's hand just to hold it, that would not make any sense. I mean come on, is Naruto gonna say to Hinata next chapter "Thanks Hinata, all I wanna do is hold your hand during battle for everyone to see that this might mean something" or "Hey Hinata, I want to hold your hand because I want to double clothesline Obito and Madara just to show our team work". It will not be proper scene to accept Hinata love offer(which she did not offer by the way) during middle of a battle scene, especially since no offer was made for a romantic response.


I have to laugh. Are you serious?? If anything it should be Bee & Naruto doing a double lariat in Bijuu form.

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Dec 30 2012, 01:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I try not to get involved in "debates" anymore. They always lead to headaches and can last for days, depending on who you're talking to. It's especially annoying when a debate ends with agreeing to disagree; I always feel like I've wasted my time.


Yeah, I always hate it when someone just goes like that at the end of the debate. It doesn't feel like you gained anything from it.

QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ Dec 30 2012, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh god I just made up the WORST joke ever. I don't even know if I should say it. Should I say it?

Sorry to go Off-topic.

Screw it, I'll do it anyway. I am so sorry for this and if I am going to hell I might as well. Please forgive me for what I am about to do.

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Pretty distasteful yo. You might wanna take that down.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:18 AM

QUOTE (Codus N @ Dec 30 2012, 01:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Pretty distasteful yo. You might wanna take that down.


You're right. Sounded funnier in my head. Oh well.
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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:33 AM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Dec 30 2012, 08:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So, the most recent comment on my 615 video made me laugh. I wanted to share it.

"ns fans fell for a plothole throwoff its used to distract viewers from the ultimate outcone but smarter ppl been saw past this..its simple common sense a girl u end up wit in reality wont b the 1st girl or boy u loved OBVIOUSLY most of the time.naruto confirms his feelings tht hibata was right by his side so his life was never just his but hinatas as well..theese two are lovers and they will face the juubi on the. frontlines Naruhina vs the juubii! i dnt blame u tho slex ur another of very few ppl who in super denial over analyzing wont help.. just like obito bn tobi it was a plot throwoff. naruhina is canon no way around naruto said HIMSELF that his and hinatas life are connected...hence the name of chapter "connected" u shuld b a nh fan slex i dont respect ANY ns fan cuz of they ignorence n stupidity but i respect u ur smart i cant c how u felll for tht fake ns stuff...honestly lml ..."

Apparently, I should be a NaruHina fan just because this guy doesn't respect NaruSaku shippers.


I LOVED your video Slextrem! You've got a beautiful voice, too happy.gif

Sorry about mentioning NH fandom, but since they're somehow entitled to bashing us, I'd like to at least tell that this comment pretty much sums up their ignorance and stupidity. How can a person watch your video that's full of facts and arguments in favor of NS and say they're all fake? Then call our fanbase stupid and ignorant? huh.gif

We've ALWAYS been about facts and parallels. NH has ALWAYS been about idolising a girl and her one-sided crush or love or whatever you call it.

Now NH got something akin to facts and parallels and it's suddenly more canon than my parents. facepalm.png

Just because we like NS, doesn't mean we're super biased and therefore we're wrong. It's about facts and development. I, for instance, don't like ShikaTema, but quite believe in it because of facts and parallels.


QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ Dec 30 2012, 10:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh god I just made up the WORST joke ever. I don't even know if I should say it. Should I say it?

Sorry to go Off-topic.

Screw it, I'll do it anyway. I am so sorry for this and if I am going to hell I might as well. Please forgive me for what I am about to do.

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#1357 AnaHatakechan

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 10:06 AM



This video has some good points, although some of them are bias but everyone is bias to a degree.
I found it helpful and gave out some thoughts and opinions to what this chapters suggests.

Edited by AnaHatakechan, 30 December 2012 - 10:07 AM.


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Posted 30 December 2012 - 10:35 AM

I don't think I want to get my hopes up again. I'm gonna read the next chapter, and the ones following, like I'm sure NH is canon. From what I've seen there is no way around NH right now that won't make Naruto and Kishi look like asses. They already do to the NS fans. Call me negative but that's the only way I'm gonna reduce the hurt. Anyway, I like how everyone just ignored the negatives of the recent chapter because of the NH implications. If that had been Sakura I wonder how many people would have dropped the manga then and there, and pointing out that the bad things that were written in.

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#1359 Sakamaki Izayoi

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 10:49 AM

QUOTE (MoonStar @ Dec 30 2012, 07:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't think I want to get my hopes up again. I'm gonna read the next chapter, and the ones following, like I'm sure NH is canon. From what I've seen there is no way around NH right now that won't make Naruto and Kishi look like asses. They already do to the NS fans. Call me negative but that's the only way I'm gonna reduce the hurt. Anyway, I like how everyone just ignored the negatives of the recent chapter because of the NH implications. If that had been Sakura I wonder how many people would have dropped the manga then and there, and pointing out that the bad things that were written in.

I doubt it.
Man, seriously the ammount of complaints in this chapter is high, if he made NH canon with this chapter he kills off the series.
I thought that NS was against everything but now the way i look, NH is against even the manga "logic".
Only the NH fans liked it, i dont see anyone in my friendship circle who didnt had dropped Naruto, i'm the only one is following the series.
I'm not going to get my hopes up but the next chapters will be determinant you're just qqing because the manga ended in a cliffhanger.

But seriously we knew that it would happen but the way hinata said was a bout a man and a girl walking together in the village romantically but it wasnt the way it happened, her character comes in a full circle.
Neji's death being the trigger for Hinata's development, and Naruto suddenly become an idiot is what triggered the complaints, it was OOC for Hinata to do that.

My reaction to that chapte was "Wtf did i just read?", everyone felt that way.

There's even a SS fans that was lurking in this forum yesterday, and he proved with his arguments that NS was the best pairing.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 11:00 AM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Dec 30 2012, 12:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I thought that NS was against everything but now the way i look, NH is against even the manga "logic".


How is NS against everything?

You're right about NH being totally illogic, though. That's why it won't happen. Have faith in Kishimoto's writing, guys, and even more - have faith in him being a troll. laugh.gif





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