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[LadyGT]

personally...I don't think she's expecting a response to her confession. I think she would have said something before Sakura hugged Naruto.

 

Exactly, to me it seems that she only wants to be there for Naruto as a comrade, just like Shikamaru and many others. There was a chapter not too long ago where she said that.

[Quinny52]

Man, I'm browsing tumblr and maaaan these tears are so kittening DELICIOUS. 

 

Cry moar please.

 

It cleanses my soul.

This post reminded me of this...

 

But on the subject of SS, NH, Sawyer, Forneverworld etc...

• Gaara and Co. are currently moving away from Sasuke's location, and if they were to turn around now, there's no gurantee they'll reach him in time, and Naruto's life would be jeopardised in the process (whatever their destination is, the intention is to save Naruto).
• They don't even know that Sasuke is hurt, so they don't even have a reason to turn around. Karin and the rest of Taka are both aware of Sasuke's condition and are closer to him to provide aid.
• For the sake of arguement, what would Hinata have done if she did join Gaara and Sakura on the trip? What contribution would/could she make to Naruto's survival?
• Someone should remind Sawyer and Co. that it wasn't 20 chapters ago that Sasuke was plotting to escape the battlefield with only Naruto and Juugo, and leave Sakura and the rest of the Alliance to die.
• IMHO If a reviewer can't at least keep their bias in check and can't refer to a character they're not fond of without resorting to derogatory name-calling, then I wouldn't give them any of my time.

Edited by Quinny52, 23 January 2014 - 10:39 AM.

[Branden]

 

This post reminded me of this...

 

But on the subject of SS, NH, Sawyer, Forneverworld etc...

• Gaara and Co. are currently moving away from Sasuke's location, and if they were to turn around now, there's no gurantee they'll reach him in time, and Naruto's life would be jeopardised in the process (whatever their destination is, the intention is to save Naruto).
• They don't even know that Sasuke is hurt, so they don't even have a reason to turn around. Karin and the rest of Taka are both aware of Sasuke's condition and are closer to him to provide aid.
• For the sake of arguement, what would Hinata have done if she did join Gaara and Sakura on the trip? What contribution would/could she make to Naruto's survival?
• Someone should remind Sawyer and Co. that it wasn't 20 chapters ago that Sasuke was plotting to escape the battlefield with only Naruto and Juugo, and leave Sakura and the rest of the Alliance to die.
• IMHO If a reviewer can't at least keep their bias in check and can't refer to a character they're not fond of without resorting to derogatory name-calling, then I wouldn't give them any of my time.

 

When did this happen? He's been committed to stopping Obito/Madara since he arrived. Even if he's evil it's still in his best interest to stop Madara right now because he's trying to destroy the world.

[Quinny52]

When did this happen? He's been committed to stopping Obito/Madara since he arrived. Even if he's evil it's still in his best interest to stop Madara right now because he's trying to destroy the world.

When I said 'escape the battlefield' I didn't flee and leave Madara and Obito to continue their plans unopposed, though I can understand if it caused confusion.

 

I can't recall the chapter number (between 645-650 I think), but Obito was preparing a huge Bijuu Dama to wipe out the Alliance, and erected a barrier around them and himself, trapping them. Sasuke was planning to use the Summoning Jutsu to get himself, Naruto and Juugo outside the barrier and away from the blast.  He made no mention of trying to save anyone else, Sakura included. Before that happened however, Naruto and Minato combined their chakra and teleported everyone outside the barrier.

Edited by Quinny52, 23 January 2014 - 11:13 AM.

[Branden]

I can't recall the chapter number (between 645-650 I think), but Obito was preparing a huge Bijuu Dama to wipe out the Alliance, and erected a barrier around them and himself, trapping them. Sasuke was planning to use the Summoning Jutsu to get himself, Naruto and Juugo outside the barrier and away from the blast. Before that happened however, Naruto and Minato combined their chakra and teleported everyone outside the barrier.

Oh. That's not what "plotting to escape the battlefield" or trying to "leave Sakura and the rest of the Alliance to die." means. The way you say it makes Sasuke sound evil when in reality what he was doing was strictly neutral. It wasn't a careless abandonment of his comrades or a righteous attempt to save the helpless. It was a split second decision that would have given him the best chances of surviving the attack and defeating Obito. If Sasuke had tried to somehow stop the bijuu bomb he most likely would have failed.

 

Just try to keep in mind the differences between evil and neutral

[bthug]

Man can't get enough of the last chapter. Excited to see it animated, love when stuff like that is animated makes it more visceral

[awesome sauce dude]

So many people are saying that Sakura is going to go and heal sasuke. I just don't see how that's possible. Sakura and gaara have no idea where sasuke is and don't know that he is dieing, Sakura barely has enough chakra to heal naruto, and Karin, juugo, and orochimaru can do something to help sasuke so its not like Sakura ishis only hope

[Inferno180]

If anything, when it does come to hinata at this point, my only deal is it's not her character, it's just that in the ways Kishi has used her he hasn't gone forward enough to make a great impact or make enough emphasis story wise for her actions to be significant enough in determining what many nh fans see to be a nh ending.

It's like yes she will get an ending and some resolution but again this all falls back to the basic more screentime equals more importance factor. Hinatas 2 big moments, her confession and 615, while they were highlights in her character, they didn't get placed outward as importantly as they could have. The only address to the confession in anyway was around 559 or so, when naruto meets her on the battlefield but it's just a minor thought. The problem with the confession though, it was in the same pool as us in ns for the 469 events being largely unaddressed. When the news if the war and naruto going into containment came up, it was assured none of this would be resolved anytime soon. Yet in that time we got a filler after the land of iron still showing naruto loving sakura, it was by all means the only notion of any media that things had not changed though it was just a filler, fillers cannot be written to conflict with the manga, even though the utakata arc did, they made a special episode in which naruto did meet edo utakata during the early obito fight and addressed this plot hole. Even when naruto met all the tailed beasts and their respective jinchurki, naruto had met utakata and isobu the 3 tails before, they addressed naruto as already having met him, so for the sake of continuity this was a simple patch up to make things addressed in the anime different from the manga. Otherwise in the filler, they obviously couldn't conflict narutos persona with anything else so if it met anything, it was best to assume naruto had still loved sakura until proven otherwise.

Even then, the notion of naruto being over sakura and hinata just confessing, it could have seriously been built on, it was the ideal time for nh to grow, but it never did. Then 631 came and yes we all know what happened here, we got reaffirmation that naruto still loved sakura and the long sought Kushina foreshadow had given hints that sakura was the girl for naruto. Never once was narutos feelings shown to have changed or gravitate away from sakura. Even with 615 yes it seems it's more about neji than anything much more than the hand holding.

Basically yes the story is a in the final phase and it's at this point, for nh to occur, what must happen to make such an impact for naruto to turn to hinata? Even in the case right now, Kishi could have let hinata get on the sand but he chose sakura, hell sakura tearing up could be something dramatic on her part next chapter. It's just that, hinata hasn't had her events lead anywhere to point of major impacts or rather they arnt bringing a cause and effect, they have been done but not continued all that much.

We still know hinata loves naruto, Kishi keeps making her repeat that again and again. I know many people say if nh doesn't occur it would make hinata useless to the story, not exactly, hinata will get her resolution but when events like 631 came up and now we may see something dramatic with sakura to naruto, it's really still all leaning more on ns. Even 635 being highly an omen for SS, it's sakura not trusting Sasuke, she can be turning away from him. It's at this point exactly what would hinatas resolution be concerning her feelings for naruto? Well we need to assume this: if sakura does in fact reveal she loves naruto in future chapters, as many nh fans predict nh will still come by some means, this would just be another issue, how could it occur despite more development and screentime on ns especially if we got this hypothecitical sakura revealing she really does love naruto? Would this then turn to a dumb subplot of sakura and hinata being love rivals or would many still expect naruto to suddenly love hinata despite events like 631 hinting he still loves sakura regardless if this hypothetical event happened or not? That's just it, if we get some big dramatic scene of sakura showing how much she cares for naruto revealing it to the reader, then what would nh fans expect? Still the free pass which was assumed for a long time? It's not going to work like that, the main basis here is that if next chapter or so, we see more focused events on ns with sakura revealing more open feelings or so we can say, then what about nh which still goes unaddressed? That's the problem, I mean the nh stuff could come, but these sudden events would just throw more wrenches into the plot development for both ns and nh and make it all the more jumbled.

In truth, hinata isn't going to be brushed aside, Kishi is going to give her some ending and yes those events like 437 mostly would be what's addressed fully if anything. Maybe 615 would be touched upon, maybe not but at this point, i wouldn't be suprised if some situation came up in which naruto confronted hinata or hinata confronted sakura (presumed about sakura going towards naruto) but in this, all I can see is hinata being happy for naruto because nh cannot happen at that point if she has still been left in the back with all the ns stuff still having come forward, that's really all I can see. Had the major stuff, even 631 and 662 being written differently, had nh been given more emphasis, it would have given nh more priority and possibilities, but it hasn't gone that way, maybe it did in another universe or timeline, but in this reality it's been ns focused again and again. Hinata isn't going to be brushed off, but it's just her severe limited use with still many untouched resolutions that serve as nh biggest weakness. It's like every time we get a new ns moment, like the sakura Kushina event, and yes hinata not getting on the sand cloud with sakura, those are just more hurdles it would need to overcome. I only say the sand cloud because it's just an event that can be say, sakura goes with gaara to minato for narutos situation. If minato does throw in more stuff about Kushina or even talks to sakura about how he's happy naruto has a friend like her, well Kishi is writing it like this for a reason, that's all I can say. Maybe hinata was just unfortunate to never be in the right place at the right time but we can only blame Kishi for not using her as much as he could have.

[FireFox]

If anything, when it does come to hinata at this point, my only deal is it's not her character, it's just that in the ways Kishi has used her he hasn't gone forward enough to make a great impact or make enough emphasis story wise for her actions to be significant enough in determining what many nh fans see to be a nh ending.

It's like yes she will get an ending and some resolution but again this all falls back to the basic more screentime equals more importance factor. Hinatas 2 big moments, her confession and 615, while they were highlights in her character, they didn't get placed outward as importantly as they could have. The only address to the confession in anyway was around 559 or so, when naruto meets her on the battlefield but it's just a minor thought. The problem with the confession though, it was in the same pool as us in ns for the 469 events being largely unaddressed. When the news if the war and naruto going into containment came up, it was assured none of this would be resolved anytime soon. Yet in that time we got a filler after the land of iron still showing naruto loving sakura, it was by all means the only notion of any media that things had not changed though it was just a filler, fillers cannot be written to conflict with the manga, even though the utakata arc did, they made a special episode in which naruto did meet edo utakata during the early obito fight and addressed this plot hole. Even when naruto met all the tailed beasts and their respective jinchurki, naruto had met utakata and isobu the 3 tails before, they addressed naruto as already having met him, so for the sake of continuity this was a simple patch up to make things addressed in the anime different from the manga. Otherwise in the filler, they obviously couldn't conflict narutos persona with anything else so if it met anything, it was best to assume naruto had still loved sakura until proven otherwise.

Even then, the notion of naruto being over sakura and hinata just confessing, it could have seriously been built on, it was the ideal time for nh to grow, but it never did. Then 631 came and yes we all know what happened here, we got reaffirmation that naruto still loved sakura and the long sought Kushina foreshadow had given hints that sakura was the girl for naruto. Never once was narutos feelings shown to have changed or gravitate away from sakura. Even with 615 yes it seems it's more about neji than anything much more than the hand holding.

Basically yes the story is a in the final phase and it's at this point, for nh to occur, what must happen to make such an impact for naruto to turn to hinata? Even in the case right now, Kishi could have let hinata get on the sand but he chose sakura, hell sakura tearing up could be something dramatic on her part next chapter. It's just that, hinata hasn't had her events lead anywhere to point of major impacts or rather they arnt bringing a cause and effect, they have been done but not continued all that much.

We still know hinata loves naruto, Kishi keeps making her repeat that again and again. I know many people say if nh doesn't occur it would make hinata useless to the story, not exactly, hinata will get her resolution but when events like 631 came up and now we may see something dramatic with sakura to naruto, it's really still all leaning more on ns. Even 635 being highly an omen for SS, it's sakura not trusting Sasuke, she can be turning away from him. It's at this point exactly what would hinatas resolution be concerning her feelings for naruto? Well we need to assume this: if sakura does in fact reveal she loves naruto in future chapters, as many nh fans predict nh will still come by some means, this would just be another issue, how could it occur despite more development and screentime on ns especially if we got this hypothecitical sakura revealing she really does love naruto? Would this then turn to a dumb subplot of sakura and hinata being love rivals or would many still expect naruto to suddenly love hinata despite events like 631 hinting he still loves sakura regardless if this hypothetical event happened or not? That's just it, if we get some big dramatic scene of sakura showing how much she cares for naruto revealing it to the reader, then what would nh fans expect? Still the free pass which was assumed for a long time? It's not going to work like that, the main basis here is that if next chapter or so, we see more focused events on ns with sakura revealing more open feelings or so we can say, then what about nh which still goes unaddressed? That's the problem, I mean the nh stuff could come, but these sudden events would just throw more wrenches into the plot development for both ns and nh and make it all the more jumbled.

In truth, hinata isn't going to be brushed aside, Kishi is going to give her some ending and yes those events like 437 mostly would be what's addressed fully if anything. Maybe 615 would be touched upon, maybe not but at this point, i wouldn't be suprised if some situation came up in which naruto confronted hinata or hinata confronted sakura (presumed about sakura going towards naruto) but in this, all I can see is hinata being happy for naruto because nh cannot happen at that point if she has still been left in the back with all the ns stuff still having come forward, that's really all I can see. Had the major stuff, even 631 and 662 being written differently, had nh been given more emphasis, it would have given nh more priority and possibilities, but it hasn't gone that way, maybe it did in another universe or timeline, but in this reality it's been ns focused again and again. Hinata isn't going to be brushed off, but it's just her severe limited use with still many untouched resolutions that serve as nh biggest weakness. It's like every time we get a new ns moment, like the sakura Kushina event, and yes hinata not getting on the sand cloud with sakura, those are just more hurdles it would need to overcome. I only say the sand cloud because it's just an event that can be say, sakura goes with gaara to minato for narutos situation. If minato does throw in more stuff about Kushina or even talks to sakura about how he's happy naruto has a friend like her, well Kishi is writing it like this for a reason, that's all I can say. Maybe hinata was just unfortunate to never be in the right place at the right time but we can only blame Kishi for not using her as much as he could have.

I agree with everything you said except for the bolded part . If Minato does talk to Sakura i would not like to see him tell her that he's glad that Naruto has a friend like her , and i say this for obvious reasons because it will make Sakura as just a friend in his eyes and well you know what that means , instead i imagine him saying as that he's happy that Naruto has someone like her in his life i think this will be more powerful and it would have a much greater meaning .   

[Dalton.T.R]

So many people are saying that Sakura is going to go and heal sasuke. I just don't see how that's possible. Sakura and gaara have no idea where sasuke is and don't know that he is dieing, Sakura barely has enough chakra to heal naruto, and Karin, juugo, and orochimaru can do something to help sasuke so its not like Sakura ishis only hope

Yeah, I don't see where they're getting that idea. Desperate times calls for desperate measures, I guess...

[Inferno180]

Some of the results from others hasn't been pretty, some people are angry at kishi for leaving Hinata behind despite the fact we even called why this situation would be both appropriate and important for sakura. I mean yes some did want Hinata in this situation but theres just no real help she could provide in the situation.

 

Others however were calling kishi a cheater or not making sense when tsunade was out of chakra but sakura still had some. This arguement has gotten my attention and I did tell some people that it did make sense if they go back to what Sakura and Tsunade went through recenty.

 

First on tsunade, she has a larger chakra supply but she has been in combat longer. She was optimal at the start of the fight with madara, but was pushed to her edge using her strongest form, ran out of chakra, only to be refilled by Dan's spirit, then had to suffer a bisection from madara yet live with enough chakra needing to summon katsuyu, heal the other kages, and herself while katsuyu had to maintain the strength of 100 seal herself to keep the summon active. After orochimaru came back to heal her with Karin and Sugestsu, we could say she was at about, 45% of her max energy, though she was healed, her and none of the kage were at max, they had a little time to rest, but then at the battlefield she focused only on healing with Sakura, better the 2 medics heal the whole force rather than go offensive. Tsunade spent the rest of her energy healing these past few chapters. She is almost burnt out though (she has the seal still but hasnt gone into drain mode like when she really runs out) Tsunade still has some like many others, just not enough to muster enough for spare treatment. Tsunade is finally on empty in all cases.

 

Next on Sakura, she always had perfect chakra control, she never wastes any for whatever technique she pulls out. Then came her activiting the seal granting a major power boost and chakra reserve. Sakura used the newfound power and available chakra to fight, summon katsuyu, heal remotely, and then call in a larger katsuyu with tsunade and focused on still healing others. Sakura has some left, again best to assume because of chakra control.

 

Basically tsunade has endured a lot and had quite a day, no wonder she is tired, sakura has spare due to the power found in the fight and her control. Shizune just ran out cause well, she was healing others we have to assume but has none left either, so for story and logical reasons this is why sakura joining gaara to heal naruto is believeable and makes sense. Yet to some people, they didnt buy this despite this is what happened.

[MangaReader]

I can't believe the non-sense going around that a NaruHina moment should be coming up... just how the flying f*** is that gonna happen? Kishi may have plot inconsistency's, but not that drastic  

[TouKen4Life3g]

Won't that be sad that Hinata just keeps going and actually made it in next chapter. Luckily, the last panel with Neji settled that her time with Naruto is done and from this point forward, it's all Naruto and Sakura. This can't be any good for anyone against NS. Just not.

 

If you think the movie debut from Kishi starring only Naruto and Sakura as main was bad, this will be worse.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 24 January 2014 - 01:29 AM.

[MangaReader]

Won't that be sad that Hinata just keeps going and actually made it in next chapter. Luckily, the last panel with Neji settled that her time with Naruto is done and from this point forward, it's all Naruto and Sakura. This can't be any good for anyone against NS. Just not.

 

If you think the movie debut from Kishi starring only Naruto and Sakura as main was bad, this will be worse.

People say we look pass Naruto's reaction to his dad's question of if Sakura's his girlfriend... while the NaruHina fans are looking past the fact that Hinata is now asking Neji to protect Naruto again.

[TouKen4Life3g]

People say we look pass Naruto's reaction to his dad's question of if Sakura's his girlfriend... while the NaruHina fans are looking past the fact that Hinata is now asking Neji to protect Naruto again.

That is true. That line pretty much settled that she is done and she can only hope for the best. So sidelined. Naruto and Sakura aren't done as Sasuke and Karin are questionable because we need to know what is Orochimaru's next move.

[FireFox]

I have come upon on a better nonsense , on their part judging by this top upper  panel Garra,Naruto and Sakura are approaching to Sasukes location and Sakura will see Sasuke and all of her focus will shift on him .

scan

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 24 January 2014 - 02:01 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I have come upon on a better nonsense , on their part judging by this top upper  panel Garra,Naruto and Sakura are approaching to Sasukes location and Sakura will see Sasuke and all of her focus will shift on him .

scan

Err...

 

It feels like we will leave Sasuke on Orochimaru's hand.

[LuckyChi7]

I have come upon on a better nonsense , on their part judging by this top upper  panel Garra,Naruto and Sakura are approaching to Sasukes location and Sakura will see Sasuke and all of her focus will shift on him .

scan

 

I highly doubt that is the case because whatever Gaara is doing is solely because of Kurama's plan. So I can tell that Sasuke has nothing to do with whatever Kurama wanted him to do.  

Edited by LuckyChi7, 24 January 2014 - 02:23 AM.

[Nostradamus]

You know this latest chapter made me what to make another one of my rants. The question is do you guys and girls want that, would you read it? Or you had enough of my rants?

Now if I do make a new rant, this one will be a lot shorter then my previous ones and more civilized and I promise it won't break any rule whatsoever. It will basically be sort of a review of 662 combined with other things.

 

 

[TouKen4Life3g]

 
I hardly doubt that is the case because whatever Gaara is doing is solely because of Kurama's plan. So I doubt that Sasuke has anything to do with whatever Kurama wanted him to do.  

It does seem like finding Minato is the plan but perhaps they're still far away. Kuruma is counting on Gaara as he is their last hope. That said well we'll see how this all goes down. Better do it now. Sakura is losing her chakra.